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00:03 < addos> is there a port of go to plan9?
00:04 < uriel> addos: yes, just not released yet, see
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/os-ports
00:04 < addos> ha, hey uriel
00:04 < addos> :)
00:04 < addos> sweet, I'm glad to hear
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00:51 < dho> uriel: what a surprise
00:52 < uriel> what a surprise indeed!  /s
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00:53 < uriel> maybe in some five or six years...
00:53 < dho> aren't there also at least 2 ports in progress?  :)
00:54 < uriel> oh, I'm sure of it!  but thank Glenda I lost track or managed
to wipe any awareness from my mind
00:54 < dho> heh
00:54 < dho> you need a new $diety
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00:55 < uriel> I like Glenda
00:55 < dho> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwB16g3vNBk&fmt=22
00:55 < dho> is awesome
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00:56 < uriel> yea, I think I had seen that before, those crazy japanese
people :)
00:57 < KirkMcDonald> Video?  On the Internet?
00:57 < uriel> seems that Go has caught up over there quite a bit...  wonder
if it has something to do with the name...
00:57 < KirkMcDonald> This'll never catch on.
00:58 < dho> uriel: it's on your site so i hope so
00:58 < uriel> yea, I thin kit is somewhere in there..
00:59 < uriel> KirkMcDonald: yea, Go is too sane...  and the world too full
of...  oh, nevermind :)
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01:05 < addos> I am getting an error trying to compile
01:05 < addos> with subr
01:06 < dho> os/arch/error?
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01:06 < addos> bison -y -d go.y ./mkbuiltin >builtin.c || \ (echo
'mkbuiltin failed; using bootstrap copy of builtin.c'; cp builtin.c.boot
builtin.c) ./mkbuiltin: line 18: 8g: command not found mkbuiltin failed; using
bootstrap copy of builtin.c
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01:07 < dho> how are you compiling, and what OS/arch
01:07 < addos> i386 linux
01:07 < addos> ran all.bash
01:08 < dho> what's GOBIN set to
01:08 < dho> echo $GOBIN
01:09 < addos> I made an output directory
01:09 < addos> in my src directory
01:09 < addos> and set it to that
01:09 < dho> that directory needs to be in $PATH too.
01:09 < addos> and added it to my path
01:09 < dho> is it?
01:09 < addos> it wouldn't run until I put it in the path, yes
01:10 < dho> run
01:10 < dho> which 8g; ls $GOBIN/8g
01:10 < addos> the docs say that the GOBIN is optional, but the script said
it was required
01:10 < addos> it doesn't exist
01:10 < addos> not sure why not though
01:10 < dho> er
01:10 < dho> one sec
01:11 < addos> 8a 8c 8l gomake quietgcc
01:11 < addos> those are what is in my GOBIN directory
01:13 < dho> ok, so does that cause the build to fail?
01:13 < dho> it shouldn't.
01:13 < addos> yes
01:13 < dho> :q
01:13 < addos> subr.c:800: `opnames' undeclared (first use in this function)
01:14 < addos> subr.c:800: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
01:14 < addos> subr.c:800: for each function it appears in.)
01:14 < addos> make: *** [subr.o] Error 1 make: *** Waiting for unfinished
jobs....
01:14 < dho> that should be a function of mkopnames, not mkbuiltin
01:15 < dho> do you have an opnames.h?
01:16 < addos> let me look
01:16 < addos> yes in src/cmd/gc/opnames.h
01:16 < addos> crap
01:16 < addos> it is blank, wtf
01:17 < dho> what's the size of go.h
01:17 < addos> 24741
01:18 < dho> mmkay, if you just run ./mkopnames go.h > opnames.h what
happens
01:18 < addos> it doesn't error
01:18 < addos> let me check opnames.h
01:19 < addos> it has stuff in it now
01:19 < dho> right, does it generate any contents
01:19 < dho> weird
01:19 < addos> yes, it has
01:19 < dho> have fun
01:19 * dho bbiab
01:19 < addos> now that I have that file, should building work again?
01:19 < dho> go to $GOROOT/src ; ./make.bash
01:21 < addos> let me try that
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02:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gszH by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/freebsd/ -- When SA_SIGINFO is set, we should use
__sa_sigaction on FreeBSD
02:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gszK by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 8 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- Fix stack on FreeBSD / add stack check across the board
02:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gsA8 by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/bufio/ --
bufio: use copy - significant speedup for writers
02:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gsAi by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- A+C: two more
names
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03:38 < mbruce> Is there a preferred/conventional notion of how to persist
data structures in go?
03:39 <+kaib> mbruce: gobs
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04:31 < mr_chapendi> I can't seem to use any of the functions in io/utils.go
04:31 < mr_chapendi> http://pastebin.com/d7e3a3c01
04:32 < mr_chapendi> Any ideas?
04:32 < JBeshir> mr_chapendi: Use :=
04:32 < mr_chapendi> good catch
04:32 < JBeshir> mr_chapendi: You have to declare variables in Go; := is a
"declare and initialise" operator which has them implicitly get their type from
the right hand side.
04:33 < mr_chapendi> but unfortunately, io.ReadFile is still listed as
undefined, even after nixing that typo
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04:38 < mr_chapendi> updated pastebin
04:38 < mr_chapendi> http://pastebin.com/m63ead8bd
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04:38 < ohday> Whilst installing Go, I encounter:
04:38 < ohday> gopack grc _test/http.a _gotest_.8
04:38 < ohday> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ulq/go/src/pkg/http'
04:38 < ohday> --- FAIL: http.TestClient
04:38 < ohday> Get http://www.google.com/robots.txt: dial tcp
www.google.com:http: lookup www.google.com.  on 192.168.0.1:53: no answer from
server
04:38 < ohday> --- FAIL: http.TestRedirect
04:38 < ohday> Get http://www.google.com/codesearch: dial tcp
www.google.com:http: lookup www.google.com.  on 192.168.0.1:53: no answer from
server
04:38 < ohday> FAIL
04:39 < ohday> Is this of consequence?
04:39 < dho> your DNS server isn't answering.
04:39 < dho> if you expect it not to, no.
04:39 < ohday> dho: Yes, I figured that port redirection might be on the
frits.
04:40 < ohday> Thank you.
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04:40 < dho> no problemo
04:40 < ohday> And, how are you liking things at Go-land?
04:40 < dho> I don't know, I just maintain the toolchain on FreeBSD
04:40 < dho> I haven't actually used it for anything useful yet
04:41 < dho> Don't have any great ideas for anything to do with it
04:41 < ohday> Ah, I thought the nature of your work being web-dev, you had
a peculiar interest
04:41 < ohday> Vis-a-vis omniti.
04:41 < dho> oh
04:41 < dho> i work at message systems
04:41 < dho> sister company
04:41 < jessta> mr_chapendi: io.ReadFile appears to have been removed
04:41 < ohday> Fair enough.
04:41 < Rob_Russell> mr_chapendi: ReadFile moved to ioutil
04:41 * dho does web dev and network software engineering
04:42 * ohday nods.
04:42 * dho doesn't like the web dev part :)
04:42 < Rob_Russell> mr_chapendi: import "io/ioutil" then use
ioutil.ReadFile()
04:42 < JBeshir> Write a FastCGI framework for Go!
04:42 < JBeshir> :P
04:42 < dho> how do you know of omniti, out of curiosity
04:42 < mr_chapendi> Rob_Russell: Thanks!  That fixed it!
04:43 < mr_chapendi> Rob_Russell: I really appreciate it.
04:43 < Rob_Russell> mr_chapendi: np, only way i found to keep up is by
using the local godoc
04:43 < ohday> dho: I have a habit of /whois'ing whomever I strike a
discussion with.
04:44 < dho> ah
04:44 < ohday> dho: Nothing meant by it.
04:44 < dho> i meant knowing of the company in general :)
04:45 < Rob_Russell> mr_chapendi: so you can do godoc io/ioutil or run godoc
-http:6060 then browse to localhost:6060 to get up-to-date docs for the Go source
you're using
04:45 < ohday> Well, there's a website attached to the domain name ;)
04:45 < dho> I would like to start doing some stuff with Go, though
04:45 < dho> ah
04:45 < dho> heh.
04:46 < ohday> dho: Begin.  ;)
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04:47 < dho> I usually start with an idea, and I don't have any :)
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04:50 < ohday> Write a program that gives you ideas.
04:54 < Boggy-B> write an anagram finder, using a dictionary file and a
given string, make it find dictionary based algorythms
04:54 < Boggy-B> then try and make it parrallel, so it's faster and more
efficent, with better access to the internet
04:55 < Boggy-B> night o/
04:57 < nf> write a more efficient rsync
04:57 < dho> unfortunately i wouldn't use any of that
04:57 * dho will figure out something eventually
04:57 < dho> considering doing some music streaming stuff
04:58 < dho> I think that would require me doing some wrappers around ffmpeg
or something
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05:13 < skelterjohn> if you want to work on some go stuff, help me with
gomatrix
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05:15 < anticw> dho: i started with a hacky tile-based fractal zoomer
05:15 < dho> skelterjohn: what's wrong with it?
05:15 < skelterjohn> nothing in particular.  it's unfinished.
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05:15 < anticw> dho: though it's not really that impressive even if i throw
100s of cores at it, because xaos does such a good job already
05:15 < dho> what is it?
05:15 < anticw> (though i was going to support rotation)
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05:28 < uriel> dho: if you want to play with Go, why don't you write faster
Go prgrams for the "alioth shootout" ;)
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05:31 < muzzy> speaking of fast programs, my go program is a little slow.
is there any list of useful tips about performance?  (also, i can't get prof to
work on my macbookpro)
05:36 < jessta> muzzy: avoid reflection it's slow, this currently includes
fmt.Printf
05:37 < jessta> don't try to mutate strings, they are immutable and will
result in a copy
05:37 < jessta> pass slices to functions instead of arrays
05:38 < dho> jessta: what's the suggested way around fmt.Printf?  just using
print() where possible?
05:39 < muzzy> found someone's patch for prof ..  says 88% of time spent in
mach_msg_trap ...  :o
05:39 < jessta> muzzy: set GOMAXPROCS to a larger values if you need more
threads
05:39 < jessta> dho: yeah, you do the string convertions explicitly
05:40 < muzzy> what's the default for it?
05:40 < jessta> default is 1
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05:41 < skelterjohn> I was pretty disappointed in my parallel matrix
multiplication code until I heard about that GOMAXPROCS thing
05:41 < skelterjohn> "Why is it taking *longer*?!"
05:42 < muzzy> mmh.  seems just slower with GOMAXPROCS.  i suppose this mbp
is too old to have more than 1 core
05:42 < muzzy> i'm using Vector.Iter() a lot ...  is that bad?
05:42 < skelterjohn> I can't be sure, but I don't think that having
GOMAXPROCS too high would actually affect anything
05:44 < dho> sure it can
05:44 < muzzy> well ...  GOMAXPROCS(1) => 4048ms ...  GOMAXPROCS(2) or
anything else => 7000ms+
05:44 < dho> it can cause go to create more threads, and the OS has to
schedule them
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05:46 < skelterjohn> yeah, i wasn't thinking straight.  figured that the
number of os threads would have to be limited by the number of cores or something,
and ...  well some other stuff that doesn't really add up.
05:46 < jessta> you don't really want more GOMAXPROCS than you have hardware
threads, unless you're doing direct syscalls
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05:49 < skelterjohn> not a bad idea.
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05:52 < muzzy> also, this feels somehow stupid and i'm doing it a lot: for x
:= range vec.Iter() { u := x.(*Foo); /* ...  */ }
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05:55 < muzzy> i have a bunch of vectors containing just pointers to one
type.  the explicit type assertation upon iteration feels dirty
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05:56 < muzzy> arrays would probably be nice, if i knew the space i need
beforehand
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05:57 < carllerche> are there significant differences between 6g and 8g?  I
have a go file that compiles fine w/ 6g but gets syntax errors w/ 8g
05:58 < jessta> the syntax should be the same
05:59 < jessta> what errors?
05:59 < carllerche> jessta: i'm writing a small file to see if I can
reproduce
06:03 < carllerche> jessta: http://gist.github.com/252301
06:04 < carllerche> this works with 6g on OS 10.6, but not on my latest
install of ubuntu w/ 8g
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06:07 < muzzy> hmmh.  using "for x:= range Vector.Iter()" seems to be damned
slow compared to looping normally and using Vector.At()
06:08 < muzzy> possibly due to singlecore again, though
06:08 < jessta> carllerche: works fine here, Linux 8g latest hg pull
06:08 < anticw> well, ideally that wouldn't matter
06:09 < carllerche> hmm...  i pulled earlier today
06:09 < muzzy> 4000ms with .At() ...  6000ms with .Iter()
06:10 < anticw> seems quite possible, .Iter uses a channel
06:10 < anticw> lots of overhead there
06:10 < muzzy> i thought channels were supposed to be a core feature of the
language and used much :P
06:10 < carllerche> jessta: I'm getting a syntax error on line 6 with the
command "8g syntax.go"
06:10 < carllerche> I'll try pulling
06:11 < jessta> muzzy: yeah but they also have to be thread safe
06:11 < jessta> so they are slower than direct access
06:12 < jessta> carllerche: I don't think the current release supports [1:]
06:12 < muzzy> then is it such a good idea to use them in Vector which is a
very low level building block?
06:12 < carllerche> jessta: what is the correct way?
06:13 < carllerche> jessta: it's possible that i just didn't update my 6g in
a while, i will try
06:13 < jessta> carllerche: I mean the current release doesn't support [1:]
but the hg tip does
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06:13 < carllerche> I built off of hg tip on both machines though :-/
06:14 < carllerche> I'm rebuilding on both machines
06:14 < jessta> the previous way to do it was [1:len(os.Args)]
06:14 < muzzy> hmm, i see there's Vector.Do() added since i last checked.
time to try it out...
06:15 < jessta> uh..[1:len(os.Args)-1]
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06:16 < carllerche> i could always switch to that temporarily...  foo[1:] is
so much nicer :)
06:16 < jessta> indeed
06:17 < muzzy> too bad Vector.Do() doesn't support early bailout.  other
than that it seems to perform great
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06:21 < muzzy> so, can i expect channels to have significantly lower
overhead in the future?
06:23 < carllerche> jessta: indeed, I just pulled the latest and the syntax
error is gone
06:23 < jessta> carllerche: yay!
06:23 < jessta> muzzy: probably not
06:24 < muzzy> oh dang.  i'm creating about a hundred of them per second and
passing thousands of objects through them and now i realize they shouldn't be used
much :P
06:25 < jessta> nah, you should use them for what they are supposed to be
used for
06:25 < jessta> communication between goroutines
06:25 < muzzy> yeah, but i saw Vector.Iter() making a channel and a
goroutine, so i applied the same pattern everywhere that i return a list of
objects because it seemed so cool ..  haha
06:29 < jessta> yeah, but if all your doing with the channel and the
goroutine is sending the items in a list you really don't need the goroutine or
the channel
06:30 < muzzy> indeed
06:30 < jessta> *you're
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06:30 < muzzy> there should be some kind of warning about that in
Vector.Iter documentation :P
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06:31 < jessta> of course, if you were actually building the objects or
doing some calcuation on the objects and then sending them through a channel that
would be different
06:33 < jessta> Iter() looks good and mostly people aren't doing enough to
notice the inefficiency
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06:37 < muzzy> yeah the code looks good, it's beautiful.  however, i
disagree about the inefficiency issue
06:38 < muzzy> i barely use arrays at all since Vector is so much easier to
use
06:39 < muzzy> as a matter of fact, i'd rather use a map than an array for
storing lists of data
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06:40 < muzzy> if i knew the length of the data beforehand it'd be
different, but i usually dont
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06:43 < nf> muzzy: what's the difference between the three?
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06:43 < muzzy> nf: is that a trick question?  :)
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06:44 < muzzy> differences between map, array and Vector?
06:44 < nf> i understand the theory, just not specifically related to go
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06:45 < muzzy> well, Vector is a wrapper for arrays with .Push() and
automatic resizing which is what makes me like it.  easy to populate it
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06:47 < muzzy> map is an associative array, and earlier when i said i'd
rather use map i meant using map as a set ...  i.e.  "set map[*Foo]bool" ...  and
then i do set[x] = true; and later iterate them with for x,_ := range set {} ...
06:48 < muzzy> using map like that is definitely more fun than checking if
item is already in array and then adding it
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06:49 < nf> thanks =) all makes sense
06:49 < nf> so Vector is a package, while the others are built-ins
06:49 < nf> hmm does that mean that interally Vector reallocates arrays?
06:50 < muzzy> yep, whenever it needs to resize the storage it reallocates
and copies
06:50 < nf> or does it just provide a contiguous interface to several arrays
that constitute the vector?
06:50 < nf> oh it copies?
06:50 < nf> interesting
06:51 < muzzy> that's the usual way, no big issue with small arrays
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06:51 < nf> i suppose most arrays are just arrays of pointers?
06:52 < nf> or small data structures
06:52 < muzzy> likely.  or arrays of ints, or arrays of strings
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06:52 < nf> an array of strings is in effect an array of pointers though,
right?
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06:54 < muzzy> effectively yes.  only mentioned them because Vector has
specialized versions for IntVector and StringVector :)
06:55 < nf> ah :)
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07:04 < muzzy> ahhh, this is much better.  my code which used to take
4000ms, now takes mere 100ms
07:05 < nf> what did you change?
07:05 < muzzy> changed all Vector.Iter() to Vector.Do() ...  or in a few
cases, for i:=0; i<Vector.Len(); i++ {}
07:06 < muzzy> no more channels, no more goroutines
07:06 < muzzy> it's a shame though, they were fun
07:06 < nf> =)
07:06 < nf> do you think Vector.Len() is evaluated each time through that
loop?
07:07 < muzzy> well, it should be, since i alter the vector in one of those
loops ;D
07:07 < nf> hehe =)
07:08 < muzzy> ...  which actually has a bug too, i just realized, thanks
for asking
07:08 < nf> i've been thinking a lot about loop invariants, so when you
mentioned it i thought to ask
07:08 < muzzy> because i dont actually want to process the newly added
items...  :p
07:09 < muzzy> but ideally it could know when to evaluate it and when not
07:10 < muzzy> .At() doesn't alter the vector, while .Push does ...  in C++
there's the const keyword to explicitly say things like that so compiler knows
when to optimize that call away and when not, but it could be automatically
inferred if the compiler was advanced enough
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07:11 < muzzy> frankly, i dont care either way.  my performance just jumped
40x faster so i'm not gonna be picky
07:11 < nf> well go is syntactically sweet enough to just use "max :=
Vector.len()"
07:11 < nf> anyway Vector.Len() is just a call to len() on the internal
array
07:11 < nf> which is a const
07:12 < anticw> internally it's a slice
07:12 < anticw> not a const
07:12 < nf> oh
07:12 < nf> ohhh
07:12 < anticw> as you can resize
07:12 < anticw> assuming we're talking about vectors here
07:12 < anticw> anyhow, it's cheap
07:12 < nf> yes yes
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07:14 < nf> what is the meaning on "interface{}" ? in a struct defn or a
return value?
07:14 < nf> does it just mean it can return any type?
07:14 < nf> s/return/be/
07:14 < muzzy> anything that conforms to an empty interface, so yeah, all
structs do
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07:15 < muzzy> not sure about plain old data like int
07:15 < anticw> ints too
07:15 < muzzy> oh, that's nice!
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07:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gDaB by [Russ Cox] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/darwin/amd64/ -- runtime: start new darwin/amd64 threads on
correct stack,
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08:03 < codedread> how often is the Google package docs updated?
08:04 < codedread> on the website, that is
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08:04 < uriel> codedread: when a new release happens
08:05 < uriel> which is usually every one or two weeks it seems, but at the
moment has been a bit longer
08:05 < codedread> ok, thx
08:12 < uriel> you can just run godoc on your local machine to see the
latest docs
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08:18 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5gEPF by [Adrian O'Grady] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- Added XTEA block cipher package to src/pkg/crypto
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08:23 < tsuwabuk_> hello
08:24 < tsuwabuk_> Can we write the inline assembler?
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08:41 < uriel> tsuwabuk_: thank god, not
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17:28 < rbohn> How do I get a struct from a file?  I'm trying to read qcow2
files.  The header has 32 and 64 bit ints.  I've created the corresponding type in
go.  Do I have to read the individual ints (or bytes) and fill in the struct?
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17:32 < poul> extension?
17:33 < poul> extensions?
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17:34 < tor7> rbohn: look at the encoding/binary package
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17:37 < rbohn> Thanks tor7, just what I'm looking for.
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18:39 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5h4Wt by [Ross Light] in go/ -- Added my name
to the AUTHORS and CONTRIBUTORS list
18:39 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5h4Ww by [Ross Light] in go/src/pkg/json/ --
json package: Fixed handling of nil values
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18:48 < q[mrw]> anyone working on a solaris port of go?
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18:49 < dho> i would if a) I had a machine running solaris, b) I wasn't
still at least semi-committed to openbsd, and c) people wouldn't expect a sparc
port from me :)
18:49 < dho> If you've the expertise, I'm happy to guide you through porting
it.
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20:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5h975 by [Charles L. Dorian] in 5 subdirs of
go/src/cmd/ -- Continuation of issue 221 fix.  When 8g or 6g or 5g are called with
a
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20:13 < addos> Does anyone have a simple example of how to read a file?
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20:28 <+iant> addos: ioutil.ReadFile(filename)
20:28 <+iant> well, that is in tip
20:30 < addos> hmm, I will take a look
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20:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hb73 by [Roger Peppe] in go/src/pkg/rand/ --
Make the operations on the global rng thread safe.
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21:09 < scoeri> does anybody in here know if there is a setjump/longjump
alternative for Go?
21:10 < dho> not that i know of
21:10 < dho> what for
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21:10 < addos> I can't wait for more tutorials
21:10 < scoeri> im creating an interpreter on top of Go and I need it to
implement errorhandling
21:11 < scoeri> without that there is no way to escape the runtime stack
21:11 < scoeri> in case of an error
21:12 < tor5> runtime.Goexit
21:12 < scoeri> the solution i use now is running the actual interpreter in
a goroutine and killing it when i get an error
21:13 < scoeri> tor5: yeah, thats how i temporarily solved the problem now,
but that feels like cheating :)
21:14 < tor5> I always feel like I'm cheating when I use setjump...
21:15 < scoeri> also true
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21:17 < scoeri> another question...  is there a way to force the compiler to
inline certain functions?
21:19 < skelterjohn> At this point I'm going to say no, but I have no actual
evidence
21:19 < skelterjohn> I am pretty sure that 6g does not inline anything, ever
21:19 < skelterjohn> (yet)
21:20 < skelterjohn> and i am a little less sure about the same thing for
gccgo
21:20 < scoeri> damn, that is going to be a serious performance bottleneck
for my vm
21:20 < skelterjohn> yes, for now.
21:21 < skelterjohn> I don't believe that an inline keyword is planned, like
C++ has
21:21 < skelterjohn> but i'm sure that, eventually, some inlining will be
done
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21:22 * dho fixes build system mildly
21:24 < scoeri> i started programming go 4 days ago and i really like the
fact that i dont have to program java anymore if i want a garbage collected system
language
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21:42 < skelterjohn> java is a systems language?
21:43 < dho> sure, if you write JNI
21:44 < kfx> :/
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21:47 < asyncster> what's the best way to spawn a process, and get the
output as a string?
21:47 < asyncster> i.e the go equivalent of python's command.getoutput
21:50 < exch_> look at os.ForkExec or os.Exec
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21:51 < skelterjohn> Yeah, nothing as simple as func GetOutput(prog string)
string
21:51 < skelterjohn> but you can hack it
21:51 < skelterjohn> I don't see a way to pipe output into a stream with the
current libraries
21:51 < asyncster> ForkExec takes a file as an arg
21:51 < asyncster> for stdout
21:52 < asyncster> is there a way to make a fake file that records
everything in a byte buffer?
21:53 < exch_> pass it the write end of os.Pipe() as the Stdout and/or
stderr fd's
21:53 <+iant> asyncster: if you use exec.Run you can pass exec.Pipe
21:53 < exch_> here's an exacmple of a call that retrieves the output in a
string buffer:
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-app-pp/blob/master/src/builder.go#L176
21:53 < exch_> *example
21:53 < asyncster> sweet, tahnks
21:53 < asyncster> thanks*
21:55 < EddieRingle> anyone have good examples of using the net package for
a client?
21:55 < EddieRingle> I'm slowly figuring it out via the source code
21:55 < skelterjohn> I think there should be a library function to join
channels
21:56 < skelterjohn> ie func chain(in, out chan X) { go func() {for v :=
range in {out <- v} close(out) }(); }
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22:11 < addos> how do you get the first value returned by a function that
returns multiple values?
22:11 < addos> test.go:8: multiple-value ioutil.ReadFile() in single-value
context
22:12 < xerox> x, _ ...
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22:14 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5heH9 by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
doc: split contribute.html into code.html and contribute.html
22:15 < addos> wtf
22:15 < addos> I guess I will wait till there is better documentation
22:15 < dagle> addos: x, _ = ioutil.ReadFile() something.
22:16 < dagle> Saves first value in x and discards the other.
22:16 < addos> I think I am having problems with the type of variable x is
22:16 < addos> it complains
22:16 < dagle> Can you paste the code on a pastebin and show?
22:16 < dagle> (if you do want help)
22:17 < addos> well, I do, but I feel kinda stupid having to ask
22:17 < addos> :)
22:17 < addos> since this is all basic stuff, I would sorta guess
22:18 < skelterjohn> That's why the internet is great.  You don't have to
look anyone in the eye as you ask a stupid question.
22:18 < addos> ha
22:18 < addos> I'm guessing it is because my variable x, isn't some kind of
byte array or something
22:19 < skelterjohn> do a pastebin, like dagle suggested
22:19 < skelterjohn> We need more context to know what might be wrong.
22:19 < addos> http://pastebin.com/m45b1c981
22:19 < addos> nothing complicated
22:20 < addos> just trying to read a file basically
22:20 < addos> est.go:9: cannot assign type []uint8 to test (type string)
22:20 < skelterjohn> you didn't give a type to test
22:20 < dagle> addos: Use := or difne test.
22:20 < skelterjohn> var test string;
22:20 < dagle> define*
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22:21 < addos> so test is a string, but ReadFile returns a unit8?
22:21 < addos> uint8
22:21 < skelterjohn> so "var test = "";" makes sense?  didn't realize that
22:21 < skelterjohn> but yeah - there is no implicit type conversion
22:21 < addos> := seemed to work
22:22 < skelterjohn> := will have test be whatever type is returned as the
first part of ReadFile
22:22 < addos> test,_ := ioutil.ReadFile("Make.conf") somehow worked
22:22 < skelterjohn> and %s likes []uint8
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22:24 < addos> why would you not want = to do the same thing as :=, when the
variable isn't defined?
22:24 < addos> is it to help catch typos or something?
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22:26 < sm> hi all..  will close down goupdatesbot in #go-updates soonish
unless there is outcry
22:30 < skelterjohn> because then the compiler knows whether or not it has
to infer the type
22:30 < skelterjohn> and doesn't have to look up lots of stuff
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22:31 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hfqi by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/os/ --
syscalls can return negative i/o counts.  fix bugs in ReadAt and WriteAt not to
include
22:31 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hfqo by [Roger Peppe] in go/src/pkg/rand/ --
added benchmarks to rand_test.go;
22:31 < skelterjohn> also http://pastebin.com/m478b1004
22:31 < skelterjohn> this will behave differently if you use := vs =
22:32 < addos> hmm
22:33 < addos> I guess I will revisit this some more tomorrow
22:33 < addos> thanks for your help
22:33 < dho> sm: see comment there.
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22:33 < asyncster> is there something wrong with this line (my program
doesn't get past it): pid,_:= os.ForkExec("ls", nil, os.Environ(),
"/home/Mike/workspace/domaintest", []*os.File{nil, nil, nil});
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22:34 < exch_> 'ls' may not be sufficient as path to the program.  specify
the full path: /bin/ls or /usr/bin/ls or whatever it may be
22:35 < asyncster> yeah that was it
22:35 < asyncster> thanks
22:37 < skelterjohn> ah this guy "Helmar" trolling go-nuts...  great stuff
22:37 < dagle> Huh?  On the ML?
22:38 < skelterjohn> oops yes, the ML, not the irc channel :)
22:39 < sladegen> SML
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22:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hg7I by [Russ Cox] in go/doc/ --
doc/contribute: try to make it clearer that you send a review with hg mail, not hg
submit.
22:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hg7M by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- hgtags: tag
release.2009-12-07 (where gccgo is)
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23:05 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hh8T by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- hgtags: add
release pointing at 2009-12-09's checkin.
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hh8W by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- hgtags: looks
like they have to be full hashes
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hh92 by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- hgtags: add
release tag, again.
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbh by [Ken Thompson] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/ -- install copy predefined
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbk by [Ken Thompson] in go/src/pkg/runtime/
-- bug in copy
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbs by [Russ Cox] in go/ --
release.2009-11-17: tag as of earlier this evening
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbz by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime: two trivial but important bug fixes
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbK by [Ken Thompson] in go/src/cmd/gc/ --
allow copy to be used without a return value
23:06 < exch> ...
23:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbT by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ -- add
a test for %+v in nested structures.
23:07 < exch> someone's busy
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhbV by [Russ Cox] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- copy tweaks
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhc4 by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/runtime/arm/
-- runtime: add ARM memmove
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhcp by [Trevor Strohman] in go/ -- Adds
Trevor Strohman to CONTRIBUTORS.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhcz by [Russ Cox] in go/lib/codereview/ --
codereview: more attempts at robustness in the face of unexpected exceptions
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhd3 by [Evan Shaw] in go/ -- Adding my name
to authors/contributors.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhdb by [Evan Shaw] in go/misc/kate/ -- Added
Kate syntax highlighting file.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhdh by [Eden Li] in go/ -- Updated
AUTHORS/CONTRIBUTORS files according to
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhdw by [Eden Li] in go/src/cmd/cgo/ -- cgo
no longer translates function args that are void* into
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23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhdB by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 7 subdirs of
go/src/ -- FreeBSD/i386 work
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhdW by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
make all.bash finish on FreeBSD
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23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhe2 by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- Add an intptr type to runtime; needed in FreeBSD
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hher by [William Josephson] in go/ -- Update
legal.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hheC by [William Josephson] in go/src/ --
Missing flags for FreeBSD shared link as used by cgo in default build.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhf0 by [William Josephson] in go/ -- Remove
unnecessary execute bits.
23:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhfc by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/big/ -- big:
implement 386 assembly routines
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhfs by [Eden Li] in go/src/cmd/cgo/ --
Mangle C struct fields that happen to be named after Go keywords by prefixing them
with _.  Collisions with existing fields are resolved by prefixing the new Go
identifier with _ until it matches nothing else in the struct.
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhfJ by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/doc/ -- On
32-bit x86, one should configure with --with-arch=.
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhfQ by [Adam Langley] in go/src/pkg/net/ --
net: remove race condition on Close.
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhge by [Rob Pike] in go/src/cmd/gc/ --
slicecopy was always using 16 (sizeof slice) for the size instead of size of
element.
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhgB by [Russ Cox] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/cmd/ -- ld: move interpreter string into first block of ELF file
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhgX by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc:
allow implicit conversion of *[10]int -> []int
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhhf by [Rob Pike] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- bugs in memmove:
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhhy by [Rob Pike] in 15 subdirs of go/ --
remove bytes.Copy
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhhW by [Rob Pike] in go/test/ -- test for
copy()
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go/src/cmd/ -- 6l, 8l: add trivial hash table for dynamic symbols
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhif by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/x509/ -- crypto/x509: add certificate support.
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhiq by [Adam Langley] in go/src/pkg/asn1/ --
asn1: add support for RawContent
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhiw by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/x509/ -- crypto/x509: RawContents -> RawContent
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhiE by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 6 subdirs of go/
-- More FreeBSD-touchups.  Thundercats are GOOOOO!
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhiQ by [Russ Cox] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/darwin/amd64/ -- runtime: fix bug on darwin/amd64 - bad g in
bsdthread_start
23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhiZ by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ --
Allow optional second expression in slice expressions.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhj9 by [Rob Pike] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- add bytes.IndexByte; common case we can make fast later.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhjw by [Adam Langley] in go/src/pkg/big/ --
big: fix large division.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhjE by [Rob Pike] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- replace custom findByte with bytes.IndexByte
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhjR by [Rob Pike] in go/test/ -- - flip in
and out to exercise overlap check a little (could do better)
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhk6 by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of
go/test/ -- bug219: parsing difficulties with 6g
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhkj by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/darwin/ -- runtime: mask signals during signal handler on OS X
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhku by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/os/ --
os.ReadAt doesn't return EOF at EOF.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhkC by [Ken Thompson] in go/src/cmd/goyacc/
-- put copy into goyacc
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhkL by [Russ Cox] in 4 subdirs of go/ --
build Make.deps during make.bash instead
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhkV by [Trevor Strohman] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/ -- Adds benchmark support to gotest.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhl9 by [Robert Griesemer] in 6 subdirs of
go/src/ -- Permit omission of hi bound in slices.
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhlj by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/cmd/gofmt/ -- update test.sh for gofmt
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhlu by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
two easy optimizations for regexp:
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhlL by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc:
reject large channel values at compile time
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhlY by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/big/ -- big:
fix arm build - forgot how to spell JMP
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhma by [Evan Shaw] in
go/src/pkg/archive/tar/ -- archive/tar: Make Reader and Writer more closely follow
io.Reader and io.Writer interfaces
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhmv by [Michael Hoisie] in go/ -- Added my
name to the CONTRIBUTORS file
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhmF by [Michael Hoisie] in go/src/pkg/json/
-- Add json.Marshal to json package
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhmM by [James Meneghello] in go/ --
Contributions etc.
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go/src/pkg/template/ -- Map support for template.Execute().
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhnk by [Russ Cox] in go/src/ -- fix arm
build.
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhnu by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- reflect fixes
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhnN by [Eden Li] in go/src/cmd/cgo/ -- cgo
now renders types with unknown size as [0]byte instead of raising a
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hho4 by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
add a match arena to regexp to avoid generating garbage.
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhoi by [Russ Cox] in go/lib/codereview/ --
codereview: make hg sync work with Mercurial 1.4
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhop by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/ --
cgo: allow .so in subdirectories
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhou by [Russ Cox] in go/test/bench/ --
test/bench revisions;
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhoT by [Russ Cox] in 6 subdirs of go/ --
x[lo:] - gc and runtime.
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhp9 by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ -- add
unimplemented %+ and % (space) flags to floating-point print.
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhpm by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
slight simplification made possible by the code now processing match states
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhpy by [Russ Cox] in go/lib/codereview/ --
codereview: handle UTF-8 in message descriptions
23:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhpL by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
fix build
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhpT by [Russ Cox] in 3 subdirs of go/ --
x[y:] for strings
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhq3 by [Russ Cox] in 59 subdirs of go/src/
-- gofmt -r 'α[β:len(α)] -> α[β:]' -w src/cmd src/pkg
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhqj by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- Support for basic try-catch style exception handling.
23:11 < dagle> omfg.
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhqz by [Devon H. O'Dell] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/freebsd/ -- FreeBSD's mcontext isn't exactly the same as
sigcontext, so
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhqF by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
gofmt -r 'α[β:len(α)] -> α[β:]' -w test/bench
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhqP by [William Josephson] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/freebsd/386/ -- Missed a reference to sc instead of mc in
157065.
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhrf by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/ --
gofmt: add -r flag to rewrite source code according to pattern
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhrw by [Rob Pike] in go/doc/ -- mention
arrays of arrays and slices of slices
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23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhrH by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/tls/ -- crypto/tls: add initial client implementation.
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhrU by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/8g/ -- 8g:
call throwindex for array out of bounds
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhs3 by [Rob Pike] in
go/src/pkg/testing/iotest/ -- Fix doc striing for NewReadLogger.
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhsb by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
fix bug in prefix code: must stop one character before any potential match of an
empty string
23:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhsm by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/io/ --
io.ReadWriter: fix doc comment (ReadWrite -> ReadWriter)
23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhsA by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/ --
two more if(h<0) that gcc 4.3 -O2 miscompiles
23:12 < exch> righty.  going on ignore
23:12 < EddieRingle> why doesn't this channel have any ops?
23:12 <+danderson> don't bother.
23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhsN by [Vish Subramanian] in go/src/pkg/xml/
-- Fix crash in xml.Unmarshal.  Occasionally while running a scrape of some xml
with many goroutines
23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhsP by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/ --
gofmt -r: documentation and minor fixes
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23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hht5 by [Sergio Luis O. B. Correia] in
go/src/cmd/cc/ -- cmd/cc: change getquoted() to accept whitespaces.
23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhte by [Sergio Luis O. B. Correia] in 126
subdirs of go/ -- go: makes it build for the case $GOROOT has whitespaces
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23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhtu by [Rob Pike] in go/doc/ -- add an FAQ
entry about the logo and mascot
23:12 <+danderson> oh for pete's sake
23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhtE by [Chris Lennert] in go/ -- Added my
name to the AUTHORS and CONTRIBUTORS lists.
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23:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5hhtN by [Chris Lennert] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- Provides implementation of MD4 hashing algorithm.
23:12 < AndrewBC> I know, what's all this about?
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23:12 <@danderson> sorry for the slow reaction time.
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23:12 < EddieRingle> danderson: it's alright, thanks :)
23:12 < AndrewBC> 'sokay.  Not like IRCers aren't used to occasional floods.
23:13 <+danderson> my guess is someone pushed a massive set of changes into
the mainline
23:13 < AndrewBC> Yeah, seemed that's where it started.
23:13 <+danderson> and the bot doesn't have flood prevention built in.
23:14 * exch files a complaint with the ministry of funny walks
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23:14 < nf> gopaste.org seems to eat my comments ?
23:15 < nf> compare: http://gopaste.org/view/HgQRF vs
http://pastie.org/private/bcwow7lay2ucsi8xqnt19q
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23:16 <+danderson> huh, fun
23:16 <+danderson> looks like gopaste.org is open source:
http://github.com/vito/go-play/tree/master/gopaste
23:17 <+danderson> my guess is that it uses the go parser written in go to
prettify the code
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23:17 <+danderson> and that the lexer associated with that parser eats
comments right out of the AST
23:17 <+danderson> so, fail
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23:18 < exch> a single pass through gofmt will do the same when
--comments=false is supplied
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23:19 <+danderson> sounds about right then.  Probably a simple fix
23:21 < nf> =)
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23:35 < nf> Is there a Go syntax highlighting schema for Vim/
23:35 < nf> ?
23:36 < dho> man THTLLY's new album is amazing
23:36 < nf> (i should have just googled that)
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23:36 < xerox> nf: yeah it's in the distribution directory
23:36 < nf> xerox: thanks.  i feel ashamedly lazy now =)
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23:37 < xerox> nf: happened to me as well :) under go/misc/
23:37 < nf> yep found it =)
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