--- Log opened Sat Dec 12 00:00:32 2009 00:01 -!- clearscreen [n=clearscr@e248070.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 00:01 -!- rakd [n=rakd@219.117.252.7.static.zoot.jp] has quit ["See you..."] 00:02 -!- Spaghettini [n=Spaghett@vaxjo6.150.cust.blixtvik.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:04 -!- Gracenotes [n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 00:04 < ziyu4huang> anyone know what will happen when you do "range vector.Iter()" 00:04 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [] 00:05 < ziyu4huang> It looks the channel never close, I don't know will eventually cause resource problem ? 00:05 -!- rndbot [n=bot@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 00:07 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:07 -!- lux` [n=lux@151.95.190.245] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:07 <+iant> ziyu4huang: the channel is closed in Vector.iterate 00:08 <+iant> ziyu4huang: in any case, a channel can be garbage collected (in principle) even if it is not closed 00:08 <+iant> what counts is whether anything has a reference to it, not whether it has been closed 00:10 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 00:10 -!- XniX23 [n=XniX23@we.will.never-be.afraid.org] has joined #go-nuts 00:10 -!- exn_ [n=exn@195.49.206.202] has quit ["see you later"] 00:11 < ziyu4huang> I know it closed in Vector.iterate, but it see won't execute the close() line if you do break earlier 00:11 -!- djanderson [n=dja@hltncable.pioneerbroadband.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:11 < ziyu4huang> I just not sure if GC can correctly recycle it. 00:11 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:12 -!- aarapov [n=aarapov@r2ah201.net.upc.cz] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:12 < ziyu4huang> Is there any function to check how many channel are opened ? 00:14 -!- xerox [n=xerox@unaffiliated/xerox] has quit [] 00:16 -!- smooge [n=smooge@ip68-2-22-182.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:17 -!- shasbot [n=shasbot@ip70-171-218-55.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:17 -!- tor5_ [n=tor@m4a0f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:17 -!- tor5 [n=tor@m4a0f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:18 -!- rsc9 [n=rsc@nat/google/x-pwdqxyufkahbugyp] has joined #go-nuts 00:18 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v rsc9] by ChanServ 00:19 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-98-230.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:23 < skelterjohn> ziy4huang: having the GC clean up goroutines that are blocked on a channel that no one cares about anymore is an issue that they're thinking about 00:23 < skelterjohn> i made a ML post saying they should: http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_frm/thread/e8a494c088b9ece5 00:28 < ziyu4huang> this is really a serious issues. I can write a simple codes runs out of resource quickly http://gopaste.org/view/xN211 00:28 -!- crc [n=charlesc@c-68-80-139-0.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:29 < ziyu4huang> if the library tries use Iter() as a idiom way for iterator, then obvious this issues must be fix. 00:29 -!- Spaghettini [n=Spaghett@vaxjo6.150.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:30 -!- iant [n=iant@nat/google/x-afabhridbcxcmmrp] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:31 -!- xerox [n=xerox@151.61.161.138] has joined #go-nuts 00:32 < skelterjohn> ziyu4huang: that's how I feel too. 00:32 < skelterjohn> iterators especially are not so useful unless the GC behaves this way 00:32 -!- drry [n=drry@unaffiliated/drry] has quit ["Tiarra 0.1+svn-35634M: SIGTERM received; exit"] 00:34 < skelterjohn> the argument was, if I recall correctly (and it's in that ML thread) that for something like a webserver, it's not obvious whether a group of deadlocked goroutines attached to each other by blocking channels should be cleaned up silently or if a panic should occur 00:34 < ziyu4huang> I am not quite clear about channel yet, is it Ok to close it in reader side ? 00:34 < skelterjohn> ziyu4huang: you shouldn't, though often it might behave as you expect 00:34 < skelterjohn> the idea being close(ch) is a writer operation, closed(ch) is a reader operation 00:34 < ziyu4huang> If that's true, I think range can just do close() if you break out 00:35 < skelterjohn> I am paraphrasing either Russ Cox or Rob Pike, I always get them confused (names that begin with 'R'...) 00:35 -!- shasbot [n=shasbot@ip70-171-218-55.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:37 < skelterjohn> this thread is devoted to that topic, in particular: http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_frm/thread/d1f6ebc9ceed5608 00:37 -!- drry [n=drry@unaffiliated/drry] has joined #go-nuts 00:44 -!- nwatkins [n=nwatkins@kyoto.soe.ucsc.edu] has left #go-nuts [] 00:47 -!- skelterjohn 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[n=tor@m5b0f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:34 -!- mitchellh [n=mitchell@c-71-231-140-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:36 -!- guza [n=chatzill@chello062178142082.4.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #go-nuts 02:36 < guza> hello :) 02:37 < guza> can someone point me in the way how to retrieve webpages with go? which package? or is there maybe a sample go proxy server somewhere on the net? 02:37 <+iant> guza: http://golang.org/pkg/http/ 02:38 -!- smooge [n=smooge@nat/redhat/x-aaabnspqflbmvncl] has quit ["-ENOBRAIN"] 02:38 < guza> fu im blind func Get :D 02:38 < guza> so sorry 02:38 < guza> :P 02:38 -!- smooge [n=smooge@nat/redhat/x-hzaqlarvbpqzuntz] has joined #go-nuts 02:42 -!- fgb [n=fgb@190.246.85.45] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:44 -!- smooge [n=smooge@nat/redhat/x-hzaqlarvbpqzuntz] has quit ["-ENOBRAIN"] 02:44 -!- smooge [n=smooge@nat/redhat/x-wlehdbecieaemyyq] has joined #go-nuts 02:54 -!- tokuhiro_______2 [n=tokuhiro@s230.GtokyoFL21.vectant.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:55 -!- tokuhiro_______2 [n=tokuhiro@s230.GtokyoFL21.vectant.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 02:56 -!- adiabatic [n=adiabati@dsl-206-55-130-248.tstonramp.com] has quit ["Rockin’ music will set you free."] 03:08 -!- triplez [n=triplez@cm52.sigma225.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 03:09 -!- smooge [n=smooge@nat/redhat/x-wlehdbecieaemyyq] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:12 -!- mythz [n=mythz@5ac47b90.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 03:14 -!- analogue [n=analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:20 -!- analogue [n=analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:20 -!- mkanat [n=mkanat@c-67-188-1-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:20 < guza> is there already a go lang proxy server implementation somewhere on the web? 03:21 < guza> the one that I just made is just basic I want to see if there is a possibility of passing cookies etc. 03:24 -!- tor5 [n=tor@m5b0f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [] 03:24 -!- iant [n=iant@67.218.103.75] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:31 < skelterjohn> go-lang.cat-v.org is a good resource for community code 03:32 -!- XniX23 [n=XniX23@we.will.never-be.afraid.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:32 -!- XniX23 [n=XniX23@we.will.never-be.afraid.org] has joined #go-nuts 03:32 -!- p4p4 [n=P4p4@24.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:37 < guza> thank you 03:38 -!- codedread [i=180dd699@gateway/web/freenode/x-ircdlihlkwoynjoq] has joined #go-nuts 03:39 -!- ekiru [n=ekiru@97.95.155.34] has joined #go-nuts 03:42 -!- BMeph [n=black_me@65.103.151.24] has joined #go-nuts 03:44 -!- Fraeon [n=kzer-za@e212-246-65-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 03:44 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577B9BC6.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:45 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577B9BC6.versanet.de] has joined #go-nuts 03:48 -!- smooge [n=smooge@72-254-90-91.client.stsn.net] 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Enter your name at the prompt, type thing? 04:32 < Boggy-B> yeah 04:32 < goplexian> such as `input()` in python? 04:32 < Boggy-B> erm, it begins winth an f 04:32 < Boggy-B> lol flag 04:32 < Boggy-B> look at flag :) 04:32 -!- plediii [n=plediii@nat-128-42-158-223.rice.edu] has quit [] 04:33 < Boggy-B> goplexian: look at the 'echo' code on the main tutorial page 04:33 < Boggy-B> shows you how to read it 04:33 -!- triplez [n=triplez@119.234.165.30] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:34 -!- Associat0r [n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 04:35 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:36 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:36 -!- smooge [n=smooge@72-254-90-91.client.stsn.net] has quit ["-ENOBRAIN"] 04:39 < goplexian> I'm not just trying to read input arguments though, I'm looking for a way to ask a user for input and wait until they type the input and hit enter, think of the input() command in python if you know python 04:39 -!- Xera^ [n=lol@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )"] 04:41 < Boggy-B> oh, sorry, in that case i dont know (im pretty new to this) 04:41 -!- triplez [n=triplez@119.234.165.30] has joined #go-nuts 04:42 -!- plediii [n=plediii@adsl-70-141-115-163.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:44 -!- aaront [n=aaront@unaffiliated/aaront] has quit ["And that's all he wrote..."] 04:46 -!- mitchellh [n=mitchell@c-71-231-140-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:47 < spikebike> hrm, anyone know of a skein implementation for go? 04:47 < goplexian> so Go has no fgets() like in C? 04:52 < anticw> look at bufio.ReadString 04:52 < Gracenotes> goplexian: there is http://golang.org/pkg/os/#File.Read 04:53 < Gracenotes> the length of the buffer is specified by, well, len(buffer) 04:53 < Gracenotes> main disadvantage it isn't not blocking. bufio.ReadString'd be needed for that 04:54 < Gracenotes> does bufio use busy looping or something? eh. 04:56 < anticw> any mac people here? i'm looking to get emacs22 (plain vanilla, no gui fancies) for mac os x 04:58 < xerox> anticw: in fact carbon-emacs seems to be the most reasonable choice (e.g. if you need opt not to be meta) but on emacswiki.org there are links to non-gui builds IIRC 04:58 < anticw> okies, let me look ... i found aquaemacs ... but i need to use this over ssh, so aqua not necessary 04:59 < anticw> oh, odd... there is an email already ... ok, that works for me 05:00 < xerox> anticw: not sure about aquamacs but carbon emacs has the standard emacs binary inside the .app folder 05:03 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@c-76-124-22-4.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:13 -!- soul9 [n=none@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #go-nuts 05:16 -!- cpr420 [n=cpr420@c-67-165-199-143.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit ["Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!"] 05:16 -!- droid001 [n=g1@p4FDCBFE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:17 -!- triplez [n=triplez@119.234.165.30] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:18 -!- droid001 [n=g1@p4FDC9F16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:19 < Rob_Russell> i just did an update on my Go source and i'm getting syntax errors in a multiline if condition, have they started on the semicolon change? 05:21 < anticw> bits of it are coming in 05:21 < anticw> though it looked to be all backwards compat 05:21 -!- MarkBao [n=MarkBao@pool-98-110-164-163.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:22 < Rob_Russell> i think the lines starting with operators no longer work. Lines starting with || broke - ending with || is okay though 05:22 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577B9BC6.versanet.de] has quit ["http://raichoo.blogspot.com"] 05:23 < anticw> Rob_Russell: i just did a clean build w/o problems 05:24 -!- triplez [n=triplez@119.234.165.30] has joined #go-nuts 05:25 -!- tor5 [n=tor@m760f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:25 < Rob_Russell> i did a quick test and here's what it looks like http://gopaste.org/view/hfW8S 05:26 < Rob_Russell> the first causes the compile error, the second continues 05:26 -!- itrekkie [n=itrekkie@ip72-200-111-111.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 05:26 < anticw> Rob_Russell: oh, this is out of tree code? 05:27 < Rob_Russell> anticw: yeah 05:27 < Rob_Russell> anticw: from godom 05:27 -!- plediii_ [n=plediii@adsl-70-141-115-163.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:30 < anticw> Rob_Russell: gofmt can probably convert 05:30 < anticw> gofmt -h ... there is -oldparser and -oldformat ... not sure what that status is there 05:30 < 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07:12 < KirkMcDonald> The '\n' character is 0x0A. 07:12 < goplexian> gah, i was doing ReadString("\n"); 07:12 < anticw> yeah, char not string 07:12 < goplexian> thanks! 07:12 < anticw> np 07:12 < anticw> i should probably spit some of this code out 07:12 < anticw> im too lazy 07:13 -!- iant [n=iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 07:13 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 07:15 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:15 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 07:15 -!- Alkavan [n=alkavan@87.68.247.236.adsl.012.net.il] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:16 < anticw> goplexian: what platform/arch have you got there? 07:16 < goplexian> amd64 on Ubuntu Karmic 07:18 -!- pinkmexican [i=630bfdd6@gateway/web/freenode/x-xbmxykexoakjuksa] has quit ["Page closed"] 07:20 -!- mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 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quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:16 -!- shardz [i=samuel@ilo.staticfree.info] has joined #go-nuts 10:18 -!- Nanoo [n=Nano@95-89-198-45-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 10:33 -!- samay [n=samay@122.170.21.246] has joined #go-nuts 10:33 < samay> hi 10:33 < samay> can anyone tell me how to install GO 10:33 < samay> i tried to follow the steps online 10:34 < samay> but not able to understand how n where does $GOROOT is 10:34 < mpl> samay: you just set it 10:34 < mpl> wherever you want to install your go tree 10:34 < samay> i downloaded the complete source using mercurial 10:35 < samay> then ? 10:35 < samay> it says $ cd $GOROOT/src 10:35 < samay> now this is not working with me 10:35 < mpl> samay: where has mercurial downloaded it? 10:36 < samay> in my home dir 10:36 < samay> but i cant see anything there 10:36 < mpl> probably mercurial failed because GOROOT was not set 10:37 < uriel> samay: can you please enumerate what steps did you take so far 10:37 < samay> used the command hg clone -r release https://go.googlecode.com/hg/ $GOROOT 10:37 < uriel> and which was the first step that failed 10:37 < samay> how to set GOROOT 10:37 * uriel sighs 10:37 < mpl> samay: export GOROOT=$HOME/go 10:37 < mpl> for example 10:37 < uriel> samay: http://golang.org/doc/install.html#tmp_17 10:37 -!- path[l] [n=path@115.240.49.143] has quit [] 10:38 < samay> i started with hg clone -r release https://go.googlecode.com/hg/ $GOROOT 10:38 < mpl> samay: just do what wrote above and _then_ do the cloning step. 10:39 < uriel> start at the start of the instructions 10:39 < samay> oh ok 10:39 -!- binaryjohn [n=binaryjo@cpe-24-30-132-50.san.res.rr.com] has quit [] 10:40 < mpl> uriel: well to be fair, the instructions are not so good. a newbie won't know he has either to export them in the current shell or to resource his .bashrc. 10:40 < samay> where do i find the file .bashrc ? 10:40 -!- GeoBSD [n=geocalc@lns-bzn-22-82-249-94-40.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 10:40 < mpl> samay: in your home. 10:41 < uriel> mpl: really, I'm amazed at how many people don't even understand how environment variables work, the amount of harm done by gnome, kde and so on to unix development is untold 10:41 < Zaba> it'd be silly if the installation instructions explained things like dotfiles, shell startup files and what not 10:41 < Zaba> there are fine manpages for that, if people don't read them that's their problem 10:41 < uriel> Zaba: precisely 10:41 < mpl> Zaba: still, it's half formulated. 10:41 < samay> k 10:41 < Zaba> if people don't want to learn, they shouldn't be using unix-like systems 10:42 < uriel> but seems that we have entered the era of total and complete unix illitaracy 10:42 < mpl> they should not explain that you have to put them in your .bashrc then. 10:42 < uriel> (sic) 10:42 < mpl> either do it right or don't, but don't do it halfway. 10:42 < uriel> mpl: there I agree 10:42 -!- JPascal [n=jpascal@78-106-125-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit 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every shell on startup, you know 10:44 < mpl> uriel, Zaba: yep, agreed. 10:45 < uriel> Zaba: that will confuse people even more, as that is required for building go programs... 10:45 < mpl> anyway, I think something has to be done on that doc, either remove or add some explanation, but don't leave it half done. 10:46 -!- Associat0r [n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [] 10:46 -!- lux` [n=lux@151.95.190.245] has joined #go-nuts 10:46 < mpl> bbl 10:46 -!- lux` [n=lux@151.95.190.245] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:47 < samay> now it says the destination already exsists 10:48 < mpl> samay: read the instructions carefully please before asking questions. "Make sure the $GOROOT directory does not exist or is empty. Then check out the repository:" 10:49 < samay> ya 10:49 < samay> sorry 10:54 < samay> what does they mean by "make sure $GOBIN (or $HOME/bin if $GOBIN is not set) is in your $PATH " 10:55 -!- Fraeon [n=kzer-za@e212-246-65-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #go-nuts 10:55 < Zaba> it means precisely what it says 10:56 -!- melba [n=blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #go-nuts 10:56 < uriel> samay: please read some Unix introductory text 10:57 < uriel> like The Unix Programming Environment 10:57 < reppie> the biggest book ever 10:57 < Zaba> or at least man bash 10:57 < uriel> reppie: not in volume, but in quality yes 10:58 < Zaba> uriel, does it cover network programming? 10:58 < reppie> i've never read it 10:58 < uriel> Zaba: no 10:58 < reppie> i've been too afraid of its size 10:58 < uriel> reppie: you are confused 10:58 < reppie> how so 10:58 < uriel> The Unix Programming Environment != Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment 10:58 < reppie> oh 10:58 < reppie> i see 10:59 < uriel> the one covers the true and beautiful of unix, pure sublime elegance 10:59 < reppie> i am indeed confused 10:59 < uriel> the second covers the most disturbed and abominable aspects of the creations of people that never understood anything about unix 10:59 < reppie> xD 10:59 < uriel> I'm not kidding 10:59 < uriel> (sadly) 10:59 < Zaba> oh. 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[n=itrekkie@ip72-200-111-111.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:12 -!- binaryjohn [n=binaryjo@cpe-24-30-132-50.san.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 15:18 -!- Nanoo [n=Nano@95-89-198-45-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 15:19 -!- amacleod [n=amacleod@c-75-69-45-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:23 -!- nullpo [n=nullpo@221x252x46x83.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 15:28 -!- Raziel2p` [n=Raziel2p@ti0032a380-dhcp0316.bb.online.no] has joined #go-nuts 15:32 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.126] has quit ["Computer has gone to sleep"] 15:35 -!- zhaozhou [n=zhaozhou@linfast108.bitnet.nu] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:47 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-44-191.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 15:47 -!- ukl [n=ukl@f053122036.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 15:47 < ukl> hello. 15:47 -!- Raziel2p [n=Raziel2p@ti0032a380-dhcp0316.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:47 < ukl> Given a slice "[]*blah" of len 0 and cap 5, how can I add an element to it? 15:52 < ukl> What I tired to add one element to "c": c = make([]*blah, len(c)+1, B); c = c[0:]; c[len(c)] = new_element; --- this fails with "index out of range" 15:52 -!- itrekkie_ [n=itrekkie@ip72-200-111-111.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:53 < ukl> ok forget the last line, kind of obviously wrong... I just tried to use something from the tutorial that I must have gotten wrong 15:55 < ziyu4huang> ukl: slice is not vector, it's fix size 15:56 < ukl> so I need to make() a new one, 1 element longer, copy the old one and add the new element? 15:57 -!- Zaba_ [n=zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has joined #go-nuts 15:57 < ziyu4huang> ukl: yes 15:57 < ukl> I'm a bit confused by len() and cap()... It has a certain length but is capable of saving more? 15:57 < ziyu4huang> ukl: think about slice is a pointer to a shared fixed array 15:59 < JBeshir> ziyu4huang: You can resize an array whose cap() is larger than len() 15:59 < ziyu4huang> ukl: many slice can reference it. Then len is may not be same as cap because you can declare new slice width different length 15:59 < JBeshir> ukl: You need to take a slice of the slice whose length is longer than the current slice. 16:00 < JBeshir> s/array/slice/ 16:00 < ukl> JBeshir: I've got an slice whose cap() is > len(), ... ok 16:00 < ukl> JBeshir: That's exactly what I'm trying to do...just how? 16:00 < JBeshir> ukl: Take a slice of it, whose length is longer than len() 16:01 -!- clearscreen [n=clearscr@e248070.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:01 -!- clearscreen1 [n=clearscr@e248070.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 16:02 < ukl> ah, finally. thanks a lot 16:02 -!- XniX23 [n=XniX23@we.will.never-be.afraid.org] has joined #go-nuts 16:03 -!- Associat0r [n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [] 16:04 -!- Zaba [n=zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 -!- ikkebr [n=ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [Success] 16:04 < ziyu4huang> slice is fixed size, resize is actually declare new slice with new length(you can't exceed capacity, of cause) 16:05 < ukl> http://gopaste.org/view/2INV9 could someone please have a look? It seems like the last step is still wrong 16:05 < ukl> when I try to replace the old []*blah with the newer one with len()+1 16:06 -!- ikke [n=ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has joined #go-nuts 16:06 -!- clearscreen1 [n=clearscr@e248070.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:07 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-24-147-239-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:09 < ziyu4huang> ukl: this is not how it works.. see my example 16:09 -!- jA_cOp_ [n=yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 16:09 < ziyu4huang> http://gopaste.org/view/8mg8X 16:10 -!- itrekkie_ [n=itrekkie@ip72-200-111-111.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 16:10 -!- itrekkie [n=itrekkie@ip72-200-111-111.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Gracenotes, robot12, tav, Yappo__, Zarutian, elmar, scm, jA_cOp, BMeph, eno_, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 16:10 < ziyu4huang> you cannot resize an array, you have to make a new array and copy old data to new one 16:11 < JBeshir> ziyu4huang: You can resize slices. 16:11 < JBeshir> Within the bounds of the underlying array. 16:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scm 16:12 < ziyu4huang> JBeshir: maybe your resize definition is different to me. slice is just a reference to array. 16:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: shardz 16:13 -!- eno [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #go-nuts 16:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: uxp 16:13 < ukl> Well, "c" has a cap() of 5, len() of 2, should end up as cap=5, len=3 16:14 < JBeshir> ziyu4huang: No, it isn't. It's a reference with a starting position and a length of its own, separate to the capacity of said array. 16:14 < JBeshir> ziyu4huang: You can resize said length within the limits of the underlying array. 16:14 < ukl> from what my experimentation let me guess, the first 3 lines of my example actually do that, it's just the last one that fails 16:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Gracenotes, jA_cOp, elmar, eno_, BMeph, tav, Zarutian, robot12, Yappo__ 16:14 -!- eno_ [n=eno@adsl-70-137-131-240.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Success] 16:14 < ukl> could probably turn it into a function... hmm. 16:14 -!- Gracenotes [n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 16:15 < ziyu4huang> JBeshir: There is not resize() function on slice... you just a assign a new value to slice... I really don't take it is a resize 16:15 < ukl> ok, the function thing works, it's just a bit uglier (having "st.child = st.child.addChild(n);" in my code) 16:16 -!- Gracenotes [n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 16:16 < JBeshir> That's nice, ziyu4huang, but: 16:17 < JBeshir> 1) Not really relevant to the actual problem (semantics) 16:17 < JBeshir> 2) Conflicts with the usage of 'resizing' used here: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:4Hrc1Tf4lWIJ:golang.org/doc/GoCourseDay2.pdf+Golang+slice+resize&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk 16:18 -!- Spaghett1ni [n=Spaghett@vaxjo6.150.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:18 < JBeshir> ukl: I suggest looking at the "resizing a slice" thing there. 16:19 -!- amorpisseur [n=analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:19 < JBeshir> I can't really understand your example easily, but it provides one that might help. 16:19 < ukl> JBeshir: thanks :) 16:20 -!- Null_ [n=xxxx@216.40.38.232] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection 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I'm driven nuts by an (a,b)-tree. could someone please point me toward a definite description of an (a,b)-tree? I tried to follow the few words that wikipedia says about them, but things are getting quite complex this way -- the problem is that I (as a node) don't save the largest element of my subtrees because my parent node knows it... Is that right? 18:11 -!- middayc [n=chatzill@BSN-176-204-59.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:14 -!- ikkebr [n=ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has joined #go-nuts 18:15 -!- insaneroot [n=insanero@p57A288B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [No route to host] 18:16 -!- ekiru [n=ekiru@97.95.155.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:16 -!- Rivorus [n=Rivorus@ool-457652d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:19 < dho> iant: ping 18:21 < GeoBSD> where is the go-devel port dho ? 18:22 < dho> GeoBSD: wxs got loaded up with a bunch of work 18:22 < dho> i have a go port makefile done and go-devel will probably be cut once the semicolons thing is finished 18:23 -!- ikke [n=ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [Success] 18:23 < GeoBSD> ahh thanks dho 18:24 < dho> in any case a release checkout of the go sources should work 18:24 < GeoBSD> ohh 18:24 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:24 < dho> we're putting GOROOT in /usr/local/lib/go, e.g. Make.pkg in /usr/local/share/go, docs in /usr/local/share/docs/go and bins in /usr/local/bin 18:25 < GeoBSD> that's all ? 18:26 < dho> well there's not much else to put places 18:27 < GeoBSD> nothing to change in the sources ? 18:28 -!- cmbntr [n=cmbntr@80-218-229-4.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #go-nuts 18:28 < dho> No, I've gotten everything else put back upstream. 18:28 < dho> the -release port has some makefile changes that i have pushed upstream and will thus appear in the next release 18:28 < GeoBSD> ok dho 18:32 <+iant> dho: pong 18:33 < dho> iant: any idea what's wrong with gcc.gnu.org? 18:34 <+iant> the system is being moved this weekend 18:34 < dho> oh, screw. 18:34 <+iant> it's down now, and should be up again tomorrow 18:34 <+iant> sorry 18:34 < dho> i'd hoped to figure out why it didn't seem to like -fplan9-extensions 18:34 <+iant> ah, hm 18:34 -!- ikkebr [n=ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:36 -!- MarkBao 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[n=dja@hltncable.pioneerbroadband.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:17 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has joined #go-nuts 22:22 -!- Daminvar [n=Daminvar@129.21.121.159] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:33 < hstimer> I have a disappearing string http://gopaste.org/view/niFhA 22:34 < alexsuraci> on that note, time to update gopaste 22:36 < hstimer> alexsuraci: the ;'s? 22:36 < alexsuraci> yeah 22:36 -!- c0nfl|ct [n=tiago@248-13.dial.nortenet.pt] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:36 < ShadowIce> hstimer: if you use := that'll create a new variable (line 13) 22:37 < hstimer> ShadowIce: so it will create a function local s? 22:37 -!- c0nfl|ct [n=tiago@248-13.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #go-nuts 22:37 < ShadowIce> yep 22:37 < hstimer> pain in my ass 22:37 < hstimer> k 22:37 < hstimer> thanks 22:38 < hstimer> so the rule is if there is already a function local var by the same name then assign, but if it is a module var then create a new function local var 22:38 < hstimer> I don't like that rule 22:39 < alexsuraci> hstimer: all done http://gopaste.org/view/niFhA :) 22:39 < ShadowIce> hm, no...I think it'll always create a new var if the scope is different 22:39 < hstimer> alexsuraci: ouuu pretty colors 22:39 < ShadowIce> I had that problem because I used := inside an if block 22:39 -!- nanoo [n=nano@95-89-198-45-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:40 < alexsuraci> although, now it adds semicolons. i can change it to print with the new printer, or just keep the old one. 22:40 < hstimer> an if block? dang. even bigger pain then I originally thought 22:40 < hstimer> alexsuraci: new printer please 22:41 < hstimer> wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for multiple assignment 22:41 < alexsuraci> hstimer: i would, but it's all still a bit up in the air, i think i'll wait a little while first. 22:42 < alexsuraci> though i'm interested in the timeframe they're considering for swapping the default gofmt options. 22:42 -!- 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