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01:22 < ravis> i ran into the FAIL: net.TestDialGoogle error when making go
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01:23 < ravis> i also did a pull update release from the src directory and
re-ran make all - still same error
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04:28 < rah_> every time i hear go-nuts i think of donuts
04:31 < CodeBlock> XD
04:31 * CodeBlock could use some donuts and coffee right now :(
04:31 < rah_> that sounds really good right now
04:32 < rah_> gonuts and coffee
04:32 < rah_> i mean donuts and coffee
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04:33 < rah_> is make() considered part of the language spec itself, or just
a special method outside the spec?
04:34 < rah_> i can find references to make() in the spec, but not its ebnf
04:36 < skelterjohn> it's not just a special method, since it has variable
return types, takes a type as a parameter, and can have either one or two
parameters.  regular methods can't do any of those things
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04:36 * CodeBlock is surprised the topic says to use pastebin.com - gist has
syntax highlighting for Go already, pastebin.com does not.  :/
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04:37 < rah_> ok, so it looks like a method, but it doesn't quite follow the
built in rules about what a method can take
04:37 < rah_> i was noticing that as well, codeblock
04:37 < CodeBlock> rah_: ;)
04:37 < CodeBlock> meh what do I know - i've been coding Go for about an
hour, literally.  Very new to it, but kind of liking it so far :)
04:37 < rah_> plus the fact that gist pastes are full git repos is pretty
cool :)
04:38 < skelterjohn> it should suggest gopaste.org
04:38 < rah_> i've got a week under my belt of go, but i feel like i've been
only learning it for 20 minutes still
04:38 < CodeBlock> skelterjohn: 503
04:38 < CodeBlock> rah_: is that good or bad?  :P
04:38 < rah_> well
04:38 < rah_> the core syntax is not hard to grasp
04:38 < rah_> actually very refreshingly simple
04:39 < rah_> but grasping how to do things in a 'go' fashion still escapes
me
04:39 < skelterjohn> example?
04:39 < rah_> like, the go sieve is all of 35 lines, and scales to multiple
processors
04:40 < rah_> but i still find myself scratching my head when i read it,
thinking things like 'how can it make that many channels and not die'
04:40 < skelterjohn> channels and goroutines are extremely lightweight
04:41 < rah_> which is very cool..  threads make me twitch, and message
passing looks like a very welcome alternative
04:41 < rah_> but figuring out the best ways to harness all the pieces is
taking some getting used to
04:41 < skelterjohn> message passing isn't an alternative to threads..  it's
an alternative to shared memory+mutex for communication :)
04:42 < rah_> well, yes
04:42 < skelterjohn> i did some fun examples with concurrent go
04:42 < skelterjohn> code.google.com/p/goconc
04:42 < rah_> i guess i mean more the shared memory/mutex model
04:42 < skelterjohn> you may might be interested
04:42 < rah_> i will take a look - thank you
04:43 < skelterjohn> it's a bit light on explanation though
04:43 < rah_> the build time still makes me giddy, haha
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04:45 < rah_> would it be fair to say channels could probably benefit from
generics?
04:45 < skelterjohn> absolutely
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04:45 < rah_> ok, i was leaning that way :) thanks
04:45 < skelterjohn> for instance, chain.go in goconc
04:46 < rah_> haha, thats what i was reading
04:46 < skelterjohn> it chains two channels together
04:46 < skelterjohn> ah :)
04:46 < rah_> so right now you just have to lean a bit on trust
04:47 < skelterjohn> ?
04:47 < rah_> that people won't do silly things like try to chain chan<-
string with <-chan int
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04:47 < skelterjohn> no trust required.  to get the string or int out of it,
you have to type assert
04:48 < skelterjohn> and error checking is performed at that point
04:48 < rah_> ah, okay
04:48 < rah_> but it is runtime, correct?
04:48 < skelterjohn> yes
04:48 < rah_> okay
04:48 < skelterjohn> which is why generics would be nice
04:48 < rah_> i was actually thinking about making something like chain,
that took a func as well
04:48 < skelterjohn> do that assert at compile time
04:48 < rah_> yes
04:49 < rah_> ..oh, you beat me to it
04:49 < rah_> map.go
04:49 < skelterjohn> heh
04:50 < rah_> cool stuff..  thanks for sharing :)
04:51 < skelterjohn> np
04:52 < Macpunk> I have a really nooby question.  How can one create a
literal slice?  You can do an array like so: [...]byte{61, 73, 64, 66}, but this
is of type [4]int.  Is it possible to create a slice instead?
04:52 < Macpunk> If I've overlooked this in the Go tutorials I'm terribly
sorry.
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04:53 < rah_> does []byte{61,73,64,66} work?
04:54 < skelterjohn> var theSlice []byte = []byte{1,2,3} ?
04:54 < Macpunk> Embarrassing.  I was looking *right* next to that in
"Effective Go".  Thank you very much.  :-)
04:55 < rah_> nothing wrong with asking questions :)
04:55 < rah_> we don't bite
04:55 < skelterjohn> oh, does saying "[...]" instead of "[]" make it an
array rather than a slice?
04:55 < rah_> yes
04:56 < rah_> is make(<-chan int) nonsensical?  it seems to be valid for
compilation, but gofmt dies on it
04:57 < skelterjohn> hum.  i can't think of a way to use it
04:57 < rah_> okay, thanks
04:57 < skelterjohn> declaring a chan as <-chan or chan<- is for when
you are restricting use of an existing channel
04:58 < skelterjohn> if you instantiate a read-only channel...
04:58 < skelterjohn> well
04:58 < rah_> it compiles and runs...  but it pretty much amounts to a
channel that never makes anything
04:58 < skelterjohn> you won't ever read anything from it, cause no one can
write to it
04:58 < rah_> so i guess it's not so bad gofmt balks :)
04:58 < Macpunk> Hehe, thanks again.  Now I can't seem to figure out why
md5.Sum() is returning odd results.  More investigation is needed.
04:59 < rah_> what kind of odd results?
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05:01 < Macpunk> Well I don't know that they're unexpected.  It's much more
likely I'm writing really, really bad Go code.
05:02 < rah_> hey, that's my job
05:03 < Macpunk> Lol, nice.  :-P
05:05 < Macpunk> gopaste is down for me, so I'm using codepad:
http://codepad.org/rjUauaOo
05:05 < Macpunk> I'm just learning Go so I'm running through what I had
hoped to be a simple example.  :P
05:05 < rah_> lessee, i'll try to help, but i may end up drawing a blank :)
05:06 < skelterjohn> seems straightforward.  assuming that you really have
got the correct hash to compare against...
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05:08 < rah_> how are you calculating the other md5?
05:08 < Macpunk> OMFG
05:08 < rah_> i put your bytes in a file and i got
6ebf75b151f62663436b64e6758a4ab7
05:09 < Macpunk> I realized what I did, lmao.  I converted the ASCII to hex
and then used decimal literals.
05:09 < Macpunk> Wow I need to go to bed.
05:09 < rah_> haha
05:09 < rah_> no problem
05:09 < rah_> i was trying to figure out what =I@B meant
05:10 < Macpunk> Sweet.  I got it to work!  :D
05:10 < rah_> yay :)
05:10 < Macpunk> Thanks again!
05:10 < rah_> any time
05:10 < Macpunk> lol I@B, what's that?
05:10 < Macpunk> OH, nvm.
05:10 < rah_> your ..  haha
05:11 < Macpunk> And to think, I wanna write a QVM disassembler soon.  Let's
hope I'm over those crazy shenanigans by then.
05:11 < rah_> ah, ok, it was supposed to be asdf :)
05:11 < Macpunk> indeed :-)
05:11 < rah_> if humans never made mistakes, we would have no need for type
systems
05:11 < rah_> it just is part of being human :)
05:12 < Macpunk> Hahaha, very true.  :P
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05:27 < ericfode> does anyone use kate as their ide for go?
05:28 < rah_> textmate here..
05:29 < ericfode> you like it?
05:29 < rah_> yes, but it is mac only..  you in kde?
05:29 < ericfode> no gnome on ubuntu
05:29 < rah_> ah ok
05:29 < rah_> kate should be fine?
05:30 < fifoman> morning!
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05:30 < rah_> good morning
05:30 < fifoman> is there a vim highlighting for go?
05:30 < ericfode> yah i use it i was gust wonding if any wone knew if kate
used ctags
05:30 < CodeBlock> fifoman: yes :P
05:30 < fifoman> i bet there is
05:30 < ericfode> yes it is in /misc/syntax
05:30 < ericfode> i belive
05:30 < fifoman> oh, missed that
05:30 < fifoman> great
05:30 < CodeBlock>
http://code.google.com/p/go/source/browse/misc/vim/go.vim?r=release
05:30 < ericfode> there to
05:33 < ericfode> where can i find instructions on how to link a c library
to a go program?
05:36 < rah_> i'm not sure if there are any instructions yet
05:38 < ericfode> ohh win...  does any one know how?
05:39 < rah_> i think theres samples at $GOROOT/misc/cgo
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06:25 < Macpunk> Thanks again for all the help everyone.  :-)
06:25 < Macpunk> Goodnight.
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07:15 < keesj_> are there currently runtime golibs needed when running a
program(libcgo for example?)
07:15 < keesj_> I am using the "5" compiler
07:16 < keesj_> and ohter qeustions is if there is a version of the golang
implemnetation (is hg tip the version or are there "real" versions?)
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13:12 < jhh> does anybody know if somebody already started a ftt
implementation?
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14:38 < neon> hey folks
14:38 < Guest27039> i was installing
14:38 < Guest27039> go
14:39 < Guest27039> and i got stuck in the make all
14:39 < Guest27039> it couldn't find the 'gomake'
14:39 < Guest27039> any help????
14:39 < Guest27039> hello!!!
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14:40 < usa> gomake should be in $GOBIN or ~/bin if you don't have GOBIN
defined
14:41 < toji> i have GOBIN defined
14:41 < usa> Is gomake in there?
14:42 < Guest57028> yes it is
14:42 < Guest57028> is GOBIN defined at /home/me/bin
14:42 < Guest57028> or just as /bin
14:42 < Guest57028> ????
14:43 < usa> do you use a shell that requires you to export variable (the
answer is almost certainly yes) and if so have you exported GOBIN?
14:43 < Guest57028> yes i defined it in bashrc
14:44 < Guest57028> i used export $GOBIN=$HOME/bin
14:45 < ShadowIce> Guest57028: add $GOBIN to your PATH
14:46 < usa> Do you see the correct output from 'echo $GOBIN'?
14:47 < tor7> Guest57028: you used the wrong syntax, you have a $ sign too
many in that export line
14:47 < tor7> export GOBIN=$HOME/bin
14:52 < Guest57028> @tor7:yeah i did that
14:53 < Guest57028> i'm sorry i'm a complete noob
14:53 < tor7> export PATH=$PATH:$GOBIN after that too?
14:53 < Guest57028> could you plz tell me how to add it to the path?
14:53 < usa> Just type what tor7 told you
14:54 < usa> The "export PATH=$PATH:$GOBIN"
14:55 < usa> (Strictly speaking you don't need the word "export" here, but
we will not worry about that)
14:56 < Guest57028> yes i did PATH=$PATH:$GOBIN
14:56 < Guest57028> make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/pritoj/go/src/cmd/prof'
14:56 < Guest57028> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pritoj/go/src/pkg'
14:56 < Guest57028> cd archive/tar && gomake clean
14:56 < Guest57028> /bin/sh: gomake: not found
14:56 < Guest57028> make[1]: *** [archive/tar.clean] Error 127
14:56 < Guest57028> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pritoj/go/src/pkg'
14:56 < Guest57028> make: *** [build] Error 2
14:56 < Guest57028> this is what it gives
14:56 < usa> OK, what does 'echo $PATH' and 'echo $GOBIN' say?
14:57 < Guest57028>
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:::
14:57 < tor7> that's obviously not correct...
14:58 < usa> OK, I am guessing you have only just added the lines to
~/.bashrc.  Try typeing "source ~/.bashrc" and repeating the echo of $PATH
14:59 < Guest57028> that's what it gives
14:59 < usa> Did it get an extra colon on the end?
14:59 < Guest57028> and it doesn't give any thing for echo $GOBIN
14:59 < tor7> paste the lines exactly as you typed them here, in the same
order
15:00 < tor7> from you .bashrc
15:00 < usa> OK, so the problem is that GOBIN is NOT defined in your .bashrc
15:01 < usa> what does "grep GOBIN ~/.bashrc" say?
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15:06 < Guest45898> hey i'm back
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15:06 < Guest45898> the noob
15:06 < Guest45898> so i typed
15:07 < Guest45898> this in .bashrc
15:07 < Guest45898> export GOBIN=$HOME/bin
15:07 < Guest45898> export GOROOT=$HOME/go
15:07 < Guest45898> export GOARCH=386
15:07 < Guest45898> export GOOS=linux
15:08 < Guest45898> export PATH=$PATH:$GOBIN
15:08 < tor7> well, that looks correct to me.  start a new terminal and type
"echo $PATH"
15:09 < Guest45898>
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/pritoj/bin
15:09 < tor7> now it looks right.  can you run gomake?
15:10 < Guest45898> yeah i guess so
15:10 < Guest45898> it's still make all-ing
15:11 < Guest45898> one more thing
15:12 < Guest45898> how do you know if the echo $PATH was correct or not???
15:13 < usa> It had something that looked as if it might be your ~/bin
directory at the end of it.
15:13 < Guest45898> th semi-colons???
15:13 < Guest45898> :::
15:13 < Guest45898> ??//
15:14 < tor7> the semi-colons ::: looked wrong
15:14 < tor7> the :/home/pritoj/bin looked right
15:14 < Guest45898> so i guess it's done
15:14 < Guest45898> :)
15:14 < Guest45898> thanks for the help guys
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17:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5Y3o3 by [Russ Cox] in go/lib/codereview/ --
codereview: do not send mail when submitting for others
17:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5Y3oi by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/runtime/ --
runtime: check for preemption due to garbage collection
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18:02 < napsy> Hello.  What's the easyest way to read a string from stdin?
18:02 < napsy> easiest*
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18:05 <+iant> napsy: bufio.NewReader(os.Stdin).ReadBytes('
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18:05 <+iant> \n')
18:06 < napsy> hm reminds me of java io
18:07 < napsy> but thanks
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18:08 < anticw> iant: won't that result in potentially mixing buffered IO
with non-buffered?
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18:09 <+iant> anticw: true, you would want to save the bufio.NewReader in a
variable
18:09 < anticw> right, because it might have data past \n in some cases
which you would lose if you didn't continue to use that
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19:21 < crimson_penguin> so I'm trying to install go, and I wanted to
install the final stuff in /usr/local/bin, so I set GOBIN to that, but now I'm
getting this when I sudo make all in src: bash: /src/make.bash: No such file or
directory
19:21 < crimson_penguin> (I'm on OS X)
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19:30 < ShadowIce> crimson_penguin: my guess would be that all the GO*
variables are unset when you sudo
19:30 < elmar_> do you have permissions for the directories?
19:30 < crimson_penguin> I do when I sudo
19:31 < crimson_penguin> ShadowIce: sudo echo $GOROOT works
19:31 < ShadowIce> yeah...just tried that as well
19:33 < ShadowIce> but if I try "sudo -i" and then "echo $GOROOT" it's empty
19:33 < elmar_> you have no idea for which files it says "no such file or
directory" ?
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19:40 < crimson_penguin> well note that / if you look in the Makefile it's
supposed to be $(QUOTED_GOROOT)/src/make.bash
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20:26 < crimson_penguin> well, I'm giving up on installing for now then
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20:39 < bortzmeyer> ShadowIce: sudo -E to keep the environment variables
20:40 < ShadowIce> ah, good to know (crimson_penguin: read that?)
20:43 < crimson_penguin> ah ha, thank you muchly bortzmeyer
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21:51 < ni|> ls
21:51 < ni|> *sigh*
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22:22 < usa> crimson_penguin, When you type "sudo echo $GOROOT" your shell
will expand the variable first, so sudo is called with 2 args, "echo" and
"/usr/local/bin".  It will then execute that, and so of course it works.  A better
test would be "sudo printenv GOROOT".
22:23 < crimson_penguin> usa: ohhh right, of course
22:24 < crimson_penguin> this is why I tend to just write perl scripts when
faced with anything remotely complex, rather than doing it on the command line
22:24 < crimson_penguin> maybe it's not really easier, but I'm more familier
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