--- Log opened Wed Jan 13 00:00:12 2010 --- Day changed Wed Jan 13 2010 00:00 < Eridius> actually hrm, reading the code it's only giving 3 args to prompt(), but the error claimed it was giving 4 00:00 < skelterjohn> Eridius: in python? Is it an object method? 00:00 < Eridius> skelterjohn: I cleared the history already 00:00 < Eridius> but the error message on line 591 looks like it 00:01 < skelterjohn> no idea what you're referring to :) 00:01 * LuitvD should get some sleep 00:02 * LuitvD is to slow to follow the chat 00:03 < Ycros> Eridius: looks like they should have used ui.promptchoice instead of prompt 00:03 -!- DerHorst_ [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:03 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [] 00:03 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:04 < Ycros> I'll file an issue with a patch 00:05 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577BA6DC.versanet.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:05 -!- mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 00:07 < Ycros> Eridius: actually, how can I re-create the error, I just want to test it 00:07 < Eridius> I wrote up a change with a multi-line description, but I didn't indent subsequent lines in the description 00:08 -!- callidus [n=quassel@cpc2-newc1-0-0-cust1524.gate.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:09 -!- Demp [n=Demp@bzq-79-177-30-49.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:09 -!- Demp [n=Demp@bzq-79-177-30-49.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:11 < Ycros> hmm, still blows up 00:12 < Ycros> aha! 00:14 < Ycros> ugh, and answering no is also broken 00:14 < Ycros> I guess nobody actually tested this code? 00:14 < Eridius> hrm, hg file -d doesn't seem to be working 00:14 < Eridius> it keeps telling me the file isn't in the CL. but it most definitely is! 00:15 -!- DerHorst_ [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:17 < Ycros> fixed! 00:17 < broo> networking seems broken, every dial results in a network unreachable, even the ones in the net and http tests 00:18 < Eridius> ugh, hg file -d doesn't work because it throws away all files that aren't marked as modified in the repo, so I can't remove an unmodified file from the CL! 00:18 < Eridius> that's... really stupid 00:19 -!- DerHorst [n=Horst@e176110139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:19 <+iant> Eridius: you should file an issue for that one 00:21 < Ycros> wondering if I should bother doing the contributor thing or just filing an issu ewith a patch 00:23 < Eridius> iant: issue 524 00:23 <+iant> Eridius: thanks 00:27 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577BA6DC.versanet.de] has left #go-nuts [] 00:29 < Ycros> filed issue 525 with a patch to stop codereview.py blowing up if you make a mistake in your change file 00:30 -!- Daminvar [n=Daminvar@129.21.121.80] has joined #go-nuts 00:33 -!- trevor [n=trevor@adsl-70-142-37-108.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 00:34 -!- mward [n=mward@136.sub-75-207-168.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:35 -!- triplez 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has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:48 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6anK5 by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/time/ -- don't worry about the number of spaces when parsing. 03:53 < jessta> broo: yes, specifiy "tcp4" as the net string 03:53 < broo> yeah that doesn't work, since it does an udp query for name service 03:53 -!- imsplitbit [n=user@cpe-72-181-37-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 03:55 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.91.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:58 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.91.244] has joined #go-nuts 04:00 < jessta> only if you have ipv6 name servers 04:01 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.91.244] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:01 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.91.244] has joined #go-nuts 04:03 < broo> jessta: no it seems to do the name service query as udp6 instead of udp4 04:08 -!- scarabx [n=scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 04:09 < broo> to get it to not try ipv6 for everything I had to modify the preferIPv4 var in ipsock to true instead of checking for ipv6 kernel support 04:12 < jessta> ...if you don't have ipv6 name servers, then what is it querying over ipv6? 04:12 < broo> exactly 04:12 < broo> it attempts and gets back network unreachable and then kills the dial attempt 04:14 < jessta> it gets it's name servers from /etc/resolv.conf, do you have ipv6 addresses in there? 04:15 < broo> nope 04:15 < broo> just one ipv4 address 04:15 -!- scm_ [i=justme@d019237.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 04:15 < broo> nameserver 192.168.20.47 04:17 < broo> I'm wondering if its not filling in the :ffff: thing to put an ipv4 address in ipv6 space 04:17 -!- murodese [n=James@pa58-109-192-219.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 04:17 -!- scm [i=justme@c209132.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:19 -!- murodese [n=James@pa58-109-192-219.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 04:19 -!- Wiz126 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implementation? 04:55 <+iant> buffered and unbuffered channels act differently, I'm not sure one could convert from one to the other without race conditions 04:56 < jessta> trevor: just make a new channel 04:56 < trevor> It would be nice in a function to be able to tell if a channel passed in is buffered or not. For example, the normal use case may be not sending much data so, but in the rare case the function needed to send a lot of data really fast it would be nice to change the channel from unbuffered to buffered 04:58 < trevor> Make sense or no? 04:58 <+iant> why not just make it always buffered? 04:58 < skelterjohn> len(theChan)? 04:58 < skelterjohn> doesn't len() tell you a chan's buffer size? 04:58 < trevor> skelterjohn: If it does I wasn't aware 04:58 <+iant> no, len tells you the number of elements currently buffered on the channel 04:58 < skelterjohn> ah 04:58 <+iant> cap(channel) gives you the buffer size 04:59 < skelterjohn> gotcha, thanks 05:00 < trevor> iant: I suppose that is reasonable. The thought just crossed my mind 05:01 < trevor> I guess if I was writing a function that had to use buffered channels I could use cap to guard against unbuffered channels 05:09 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.91.244] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:11 < jessta> trevor: does your function need a buffered channel, or would it just work faster with a buffered channel? 05:12 < trevor> Work faster with one 05:12 < jessta> so don't force it 05:12 < jessta> just document it 05:13 -!- iant [n=iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:13 < trevor> Oh, sure. 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A function to take a slice of bytes and return an unsigned 32bit integer 07:46 < vegai> compiled sizes of language implementations (source+compiled binary) 07:46 < vegai> Go: 57M 07:46 < vegai> Factor: 424M 07:46 < vegai> Haskell/Ghc: 1.7G 07:46 < Macpunk> :o 07:48 -!- Adys_ [n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 07:49 -!- Adys [n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:50 < vegai> Ruby: 98M... 07:51 < vegai> wait a sec, factor cannot be that big 07:53 < vegai> yep, it's actually 192M 07:53 < vegai> had a bit of cruft 07:53 < vegai> and now I'll shut up about this. Carry on with the idling, platoon 07:56 -!- lotrpy [n=lotrpy@202.38.97.230] has joined #go-nuts 07:57 < Macpunk> no, it was quite interesting 08:00 < vegai> ok, then.... might be interesting to note that the compressed package of ghc-6.12's source is over 100M ...:P 08:00 < dagle> Well there are smaller implementations of haskell. 08:00 < vegai> oh, and my Go:57M included .hg 08:00 < vegai> which is +17M 08:01 < Macpunk> size of my $GOROOT is 267MB, which includes a ton of unneeded crap 08:02 < Macpunk> well, by unneeded I mean not necessary to the function of the language 08:02 < Macpunk> er, implementation. I need to stop talking. :| 08:02 < dagle> Haskell standard started to get updated and stoped being the new C in that most compilpers supports stuff that the lang says nothing about. 08:03 -!- lotrpy [n=lotrpy@202.38.97.230] has quit [] 08:05 < vegai> oh, I'm full of crap. My go didn't build successfully yesterday :-/ 08:05 < vegai> so that's just the source checkout 08:05 < vegai> well, some parts of it did, but not all 08:11 -!- Kashia [n=Kashia@port-92-200-123-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:13 -!- ShadowIce [n=pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 08:15 < vegai> now it did; Go: 216M 08:16 < vegai> all that static linking under pkg/. Supposedly the same thing's dragging ghc upwards too 08:22 -!- rhelmer [n=rhelmer@adsl-69-107-77-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:31 -!- rhelmer [n=rhelmer@adsl-69-107-77-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 08:39 -!- murodese [n=James@124-169-12-76.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 08:39 -!- murodes1 [n=James@110.23.127.187] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:41 -!- trevor [n=trevor@70.143.44.82] has quit [] 08:43 -!- hd_2 [n=hd_@253.176.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 08:50 -!- brrant [n=John@168-103-78-133.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:58 -!- mssm [n=mssmfs@ip-95-221-88-201.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #go-nuts 08:59 < vegai> could a Marshal method be added to the xml package? 09:00 < dagle> vegai: O_o , I just wondered the same thing! 09:01 < dagle> But it should be possible I think. I haven't poked around to much in the xml code though. 09:01 < vegai> I suppose it could, since the json package has it already 09:01 < vegai> might be irritating, though 09:04 < dagle> In what way? 09:05 < dagle> I really like the marshal function. 09:07 -!- kaigan|work [n=kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 09:08 < vegai> to write 09:08 < vegai> not to use 09:12 < dagle> Hmmm. json and xml libs are not as like that I would want. :/ 09:12 < Macpunk> night guys :-) 09:12 < dagle> Morning. 09:13 < Macpunk> fair nuff, good morning, though I do take my leave :-) 09:13 -!- Macpunk [n=macpunk@cpe-72-177-27-209.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:16 -!- robot12 [n=root@robot12.kgts.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:24 -!- robot12 [n=root@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 09:30 -!- chipdude [i=chip@feather.perl6.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:35 -!- hcatlin [n=hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 09:35 -!- murodes1 [n=James@124-169-223-254.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 09:38 -!- iwikiwi_ [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has joined #go-nuts 09:45 -!- Associat0r [n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 09:46 -!- lotrpy [n=lotrpy@202.38.97.230] has joined #go-nuts 09:47 -!- tor7 [n=tor@c-987a71d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 09:53 -!- murodese [n=James@124-169-12-76.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:53 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has joined #go-nuts 09:54 < LuitvD> hi 09:54 -!- trevor [n=trevor@70.143.44.82] has joined #go-nuts 09:54 < dagle> Hello. 09:55 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:55 -!- Kashia [n=Kashia@port-92-200-114-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 09:56 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: da4089 09:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: da4089 10:07 -!- JPascal [n=jpascal@195.239.8.22] has joined #go-nuts 10:15 -!- Associat0r [n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [] 10:20 < LuitvD> what is the right way to subtract a struct from another? 10:20 < LuitvD> type Point struct { x, y float; } 10:20 < LuitvD> that one for example? 10:21 < LuitvD> dif.x, dif.y = end - start 10:21 < LuitvD> like that? 10:21 < LuitvD> or is there an easier way? 10:22 < LuitvD> eh 10:22 < LuitvD> dif.x, dif.y = end.x - start.x, end.y - start.y 10:22 < LuitvD> that's all I can think of... 10:24 < jhh> you could write a dif function for type Point 10:25 < jhh> which would hide away the uglyness 10:26 < LuitvD> true, that would be easier 10:26 * LuitvD is making a vector rasterizer 10:26 < jhh> but I am pretty confident you cannot subtract structs 10:27 < tor7> diff = Point{end.x - start.x; end.y - start.y} 10:27 < LuitvD> tor7: diff := Point{etc.} even :) 10:27 < LuitvD> thanks 10:28 < tor7> not that it's any prettier or more efficient 10:28 < tor7> I'd just go with x, y = ..., ... 10:28 -!- r2p2 [n=billy@v32671.1blu.de] has joined #go-nuts 10:28 * LuitvD smacks his head on the table 10:28 < LuitvD> why didn't I think of that XD geez 10:28 < LuitvD> don't even need the struct that way 10:28 < LuitvD> thanks again tor7 10:29 < tor7> :D 10:30 < LuitvD> you're good :P 10:30 < tor7> LuitvD: vector rasterizer? for the draw package or something else? 10:30 < LuitvD> for something else 10:30 < LuitvD> rasterizer, but not to draw 10:31 < trevor> Anyone else thing namespaces would be good? 10:31 < trevor> Only having package isn't good enough for organizing a large library 10:32 < LuitvD> tor7: do you know this? http://alteredqualia.com/visualization/evolve/ 10:32 < LuitvD> I'm gonna try and build something similar using OpenCL later 10:32 < LuitvD> but first I'm going to try to build it in go 10:33 < tor7> autotesselation to fit an image. clever stuff :) 10:33 < LuitvD> autotesselation? 10:33 -!- afurlan [n=afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br] has joined #go-nuts 10:33 < LuitvD> for paralellism, I'll sort of scanline-render it 10:34 < tor7> automatic tesselation, that's what it looked like 10:34 < LuitvD> oh, right 10:34 < tor7> but it's overlapping with transparency, hmm 10:34 < LuitvD> it's just drawing and manipulating random polygons 10:34 < LuitvD> checking it's fitness 10:35 < LuitvD> discarding if it's not an improvement 10:35 < tor7> take a look at using halfspace functions to rasterize triangles, it's quite fast for software rendering 10:35 < LuitvD> I've got 800 stream cores in my GPU, I want to use those :P 10:36 -!- Kniht [n=kniht@c-68-58-17-177.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 10:36 < jhh> cuda? 10:38 < LuitvD> OpenCL 10:38 < LuitvD> I have an ATi card, so cuda isn't possible 10:39 < LuitvD> and I prefer open standards :) 10:39 < jhh> ah i see 10:39 -!- Kashia [n=Kashia@port-92-200-114-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:39 < LuitvD> half-space looks a little complicated... 10:40 < jhh> but isn't the point more doing fast genetic operations instead of fast triangle blitting? 10:41 < jhh> ah you need that for fittness 10:42 < LuitvD> the fitness calculation is quite heavy 10:42 < LuitvD> (though easily paralellized) 10:42 < LuitvD> and you'd want to re-calculate the least possible amount after the next genetic operation 10:43 < LuitvD> I'm quite far from implementing that though 10:43 < tor7> LuitvD: it isn't really, did you look at http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1884 10:43 < rauli> why not just write a few GLSL shaders to do it ? 10:43 < LuitvD> I don't know any GLSL 10:44 < rauli> half-space doesnt matter in this case because you dont have to do any clipping 10:44 < LuitvD> tor7: I'm not rasterizing triangles 10:45 < tor7> LuitvD: general self-intersecting polygons? 10:45 < LuitvD> tor7: because I can't completely understand how to disassemble a polygon to triangles 10:45 -!- idea_squirrel [i=ct2rips@77-21-26-167-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 10:46 < LuitvD> I'm looking to use complex polygons 10:46 < tor7> many general polygon scan converters first decompose them into trapezoids with horizontal top/bottom 10:46 < LuitvD> I won't :P 10:46 < tor7> the halfspace rasterizer is even easier with trapezoids 10:47 < LuitvD> I'm gonna scanline render the whole polygon as it is 10:47 < LuitvD> just counting intersections 10:47 < tor7> but the standard general polygon scan converter works fine too :) 10:48 < LuitvD> my progress so far: I can detect wether a vertex intersects a certain scanline or not 10:49 < LuitvD> next: calculate where XD 10:49 < LuitvD> long way to go 10:49 < rauli> writing triangle fillers with fake phong illumination was cool in 1995 10:50 < tor7> http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1698.asp brings back the memories :) 10:51 < tor7> chapter 38 is the one you want to look at 10:54 -!- trevor [n=trevor@70.143.44.82] has quit [] 10:55 < rauli> i think for this purpose you could be just filling triangle strips 10:55 -!- kanru [n=kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit ["WeeChat 0.3.0"] 10:57 -!- triplez [n=triplez@bb116-14-24-46.singnet.com.sg] has quit [] 10:58 < LuitvD> tor7: I really hope my code will be shorter than some example code in that chapter 10:58 < tor7> It's Go, it better be :P 11:01 < LuitvD> :) 11:01 < LuitvD> and my algorithms are less complex 11:04 < LuitvD> it works :D 11:05 < LuitvD> and I still have a problem :P 11:05 < LuitvD> great :P 11:06 < LuitvD> priority problem... 11:07 < LuitvD> polygon: (.3, .6), (.6, .3), (.5, .5) 11:08 < LuitvD> at the .4 height line it detects 2 intersections 11:08 -!- mbarkhau [n=koloss@p54A7EC9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:08 < LuitvD> which is correct 11:08 < LuitvD> but the .5 height line gives 3 intersections... 11:08 < LuitvD> ah, fixed it :D 11:09 < LuitvD> and another problem :( 11:10 < LuitvD> single intersection at .3 and .6 ... 11:10 < LuitvD> should be either 2 or none 11:14 -!- General13372 [n=support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:18 -!- Cyanure [n=cyanure@81-65-198-68.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #go-nuts 11:25 -!- amorpisseur [n=analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has quit [] 11:25 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: da4089 11:26 -!- wayneese1uin [n=wayneese@rrcs-72-45-208-165.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 11:27 -!- path[l] [n=path@59.162.86.164] has quit [] 11:28 -!- lotrpy [n=lotrpy@202.38.97.230] has quit [] 11:29 -!- triplez [n=triplez@cm52.sigma225.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 11:30 -!- path[l] [n=path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 11:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: da4089 11:33 -!- GeoBSD [n=geobsd@lns-bzn-31-82-252-205-200.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:36 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has quit ["Computer has gone to sleep"] 11:42 -!- path[l] [n=path@59.162.86.164] has quit [] 11:43 -!- zum [n=jsykari@xdsl-83-150-88-4.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:44 -!- Oejet [n=s022018@glint05.gbar.dtu.dk] has left #go-nuts [] 11:54 < LuitvD> how do I change Vector.Data()'s output from []interface to []float ? 11:58 < LuitvD> tor7? 12:05 < jhh> LuitvD: Element-wise in a loop. 12:08 < LuitvD> :( 12:08 < LuitvD> no real conversion possible? 12:08 < LuitvD> or a way to make Vector work on a []float type? 12:08 < LuitvD> Vector's functions* 12:13 < dagle> LuitvD: Is the data a []float? 12:17 -!- cthom06 [n=kaitlyn_@wsip-70-169-149-118.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:34 -!- murodese [n=James@124-169-196-46.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 12:39 -!- kanru [n=kanru@61-228-167-199.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:43 < jhh> I'd like to do something like http://www.wreck.devisland.net/ga/ but I'm afraid of the physics a bit. 12:44 -!- murodes1 [n=James@124-169-223-254.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:44 < LuitvD> oh wow 12:44 -!- mward [n=mward@16.sub-70-195-101.myvzw.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:45 < LuitvD> that's an awesome genetic programming play 12:47 -!- JPascal [n=jpascal@195.239.8.22] has left #go-nuts [] 12:48 < LuitvD> it makes a random landscape, doesn't it? 12:48 < LuitvD> my landscape has a really mean spot :P 12:48 < vegai> that's nice 12:50 < LuitvD> a dent that gets the front wheel stuck, followed by a spike for the ones that passed the dent 12:55 -!- jontore [n=jontore@kybpc850.ad.itk.ntnu.no] has joined #go-nuts 12:57 < LuitvD> hmm, it's net generated 13:01 < jontore> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how or where GO creates Os threads ? 13:02 < vegai> libcgo seems to have some references to pthreads 13:05 < vegai> src/pkg/runtime/proc.c's matchmg function looks promising too... 13:05 < jontore> nice, thanks 13:10 -!- mertimor [n=meowtime@vpn-ce242006.extern.uni-duisburg-essen.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:10 -!- amorpisseur [n=analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:12 -!- nanoo [n=nano@95-89-197-218-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:13 -!- zum [n=jsykari@xdsl-83-150-88-4.nebulazone.fi] has joined #go-nuts 13:17 -!- werdan7 [n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 13:18 -!- werdan7 [n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has joined #go-nuts 13:20 < jhh> what's the easiest way to produce pixels on the screen with go? 13:21 < vegai> the draw library 13:21 < vegai> err package 13:21 < vegai> not for serious stuff, they say 13:23 -!- zum [n=jsykari@xdsl-83-150-88-4.nebulazone.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 13:24 -!- Luit [n=luitvd@82-170-227-44.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 13:25 < jhh> I don't understand where the context should could come from, so I thought it's not usable yet 13:25 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: da4089 13:26 < vegai> from this, I suppose: http://golang.org/pkg/exp/draw/x11/ 13:27 < vegai> man, what a pretty graphics lib 13:27 < jhh> aaaah 13:27 < vegai> api-wise, at least 13:27 < jhh> great, thanks 13:28 < vegai> np 13:29 < jhh> nice idea 13:30 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:30 -!- DerHorst [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:33 -!- Netsplit over, joins: da4089 13:35 < dagle> Is draw/x11 built by default now? 13:37 < vegai> doesn't seem to be 13:37 < dagle> :/ 13:44 -!- plainhao [n=plainhao@mail.xbiotica.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:47 -!- Luit [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [] 13:47 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@82-170-227-44.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 13:47 < LuitvD> aargh 13:48 < LuitvD> http://img.luitvd.net/go/test.png 13:51 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577BA6DC.versanet.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:53 -!- mward [n=mward@16.sub-70-195-101.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:54 -!- JSharpe [n=jamie@5ad5024d.bb.sky.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:55 -!- damjan [n=damjan@legolas.on.net.mk] has quit ["ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net"] 13:57 -!- damjan [n=damjan@legolas.on.net.mk] has joined #go-nuts 14:00 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577BA6DC.versanet.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 14:05 -!- r2p2 [n=billy@v32671.1blu.de] has left #go-nuts [] 14:05 -!- mertimor [n=meowtime@vpn-ce242006.extern.uni-duisburg-essen.de] has quit ["Arr"] 14:07 -!- Kibiz0r [n=Adium@wndsnyhed01-pool1-a130.wndsny.tds.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:10 < LuitvD> ah, fixed it 14:10 < LuitvD> now I can render complex polygons 14:12 < dagle> Did you render that as a png or was that a screenshot? 14:16 < LuitvD> render to png 14:17 < LuitvD> transforms a vector.Vector (from container/vector) into an image.Image 14:17 < LuitvD> and writes the Image to image/png 14:17 -!- amacleod [n=amacleod@c-75-69-45-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:21 < LuitvD> http://img.luitvd.net/go/test_NaN.png >> http://img.luitvd.net/go/test.png 14:21 < LuitvD> first: the result of the first try 14:22 < LuitvD> second: the result after lots of debugging 14:22 < LuitvD> stupid divide-by-zero 14:25 < jhh> dagle: you have to run "make install" on those directories 14:25 < dagle> jhh: Yes. Have it installed. Just wondered. :P 14:29 -!- mward [n=mward@chml01.drwholdings.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:30 < jhh> unsupported DISPLAY :( 14:30 -!- jA_cOp [n=yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:32 < LuitvD> :P 14:32 < LuitvD> by the way, it's remarkable how the test_NaN.png is more than twice as big as test.png 14:34 -!- Spaghettini [n=Spaghett@vaxjo6.150.cust.blixtvik.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:35 -!- oal [n=olav@5.79-160-122.customer.lyse.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:36 -!- p4p4 [n=P4p4@24.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:41 -!- iant [n=iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:41 < reggna> Hmm.. Why is my program holding when i try sending on a channel? 14:41 -!- codedread [i=180dd699@gateway/web/freenode/x-pfchldiehmrxoydw] has joined #go-nuts 14:41 -!- codedread [i=180dd699@gateway/web/freenode/x-pfchldiehmrxoydw] has left #go-nuts [] 14:42 < reggna> Isn't in <- s equals to "send the string s on my chan string in? 14:45 < jhh> reggna: sending on an unbuffered channel blocks until somebody tries to read, I think 14:45 < jhh> until sombody receives 14:46 < reggna> So, how do i get a buffered channel? 14:46 < jhh> Can somebody running linux look in "/tmp/.X11-unix/" and tell me how the files there are called? 14:47 < reggna> srwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2010-01-13 14:40 X0 14:47 < LuitvD> X0 14:47 < jhh> reggna: make(chan string, 10) or so 14:47 < jhh> thanks 14:47 < reggna> jhh: Ah, okej. Thanks. :) 14:47 < LuitvD> ;) no problem 14:47 < reggna> :P 14:47 < LuitvD> it's Access creds are 0777 14:47 < jhh> and your $DISPLAY is probably ":0"? 14:48 < LuitvD> yeah, simple laptop, single display, default Fedora config 14:49 < LuitvD> $DISPLAY is :0.0 even 14:50 -!- triplez [n=triplez@cm52.sigma225.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 14:51 -!- p4p4_ [n=P4p4@24.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:51 -!- mssm [n=mssmfs@ip-95-221-88-201.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit ["WeeChat 0.3.0"] 14:52 -!- triplez [n=triplez@cm52.sigma225.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 14:52 < jhh> do I file issues for exp/draw/x11 on the go issue tracker? 14:52 -!- san_ [i=8cef7483@gateway/web/freenode/x-werfujudxfaiohgd] has quit ["Page closed"] 14:58 < LuitvD> what issue? 14:59 < LuitvD> they might be adressing it already... 14:59 < LuitvD> it's quite volatile in exp, right? 15:00 < jhh> issue "not working on os x" 15:00 < LuitvD> :P 15:01 < jhh> i can get it to work 15:01 < jhh> but what i have to do is unintended i guess 15:02 < LuitvD> I think they haven't thought of OS X support yet... 15:02 < LuitvD> because for Linux it's still incomplete too 15:02 < LuitvD> ... 15:04 < jhh> But it should be running with my X11 server on os x. Won't be hard I ugess 15:04 < jhh> guess 15:04 < LuitvD> dunno 15:05 < LuitvD> I have absolutely no knowledge of OS X 15:05 < LuitvD> never used it 15:08 -!- p4p4 [n=P4p4@24.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:13 < jhh> yay got it to wirk 15:16 -!- Cyanure [n=cyanure@81-65-198-68.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:18 -!- Sungem [i=ss@220-136-225-77.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:20 -!- p4p4_ [n=P4p4@24.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Operation timed out] 15:22 -!- dho [n=dho@onager.omniti.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:22 -!- dho [n=dho@onager.omniti.com] has joined #go-nuts 15:24 -!- idea_squirrel [i=ct2rips@77-21-26-167-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:25 -!- Xera^ [n=brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 15:28 -!- Cyanure [n=cyanure@81-65-198-68.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #go-nuts 15:32 -!- stalled_ [n=411@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 15:33 -!- stalled [n=411@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:35 -!- rrr_ [i=rrr@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x9230E18F] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:35 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@82-170-227-44.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:36 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@82-170-227-44.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 15:36 < LuitvD> jhh: how? what was the problem? 15:37 < jhh> They were using information from $DISPLAY in the wrong way. 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16:18 < dho> I don't know, but death metal rooster is my new hero. 16:18 < dho> ericvh: hi 16:18 -!- jhh [i=seth@schatten.darksystem.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:19 -!- jhh [i=seth@schatten.darksystem.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:19 -!- jhh [i=seth@schatten.darksystem.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:20 -!- jhh [i=seth@schatten.darksystem.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:20 < LuitvD> jhh: having fun? 16:20 < jhh> I'm sorry 16:21 * LuitvD is doing it too 16:21 < LuitvD> though unintended 16:24 -!- preflex [n=preflex@95-88-118-220-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:24 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-52-223.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 16:25 * jhh is too stupid for znc 16:29 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@c-76-116-179-93.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 16:35 -!- michael| [n=maikeru@unaffiliated/maikeru/x-7708887] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:37 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 16:37 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has left #go-nuts [] 16:38 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 16:38 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has left #go-nuts [] 16:39 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 16:40 -!- crashR [n=crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:40 -!- crashR [n=crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:40 -!- michael| [n=maikeru@24-107-56-173.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:42 -!- kaigan|work [n=kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 16:42 -!- abiosoft [n=Ibrahim@41.219.245.100] has joined #go-nuts 16:44 -!- eno__ [n=eno@adsl-70-137-161-187.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:46 -!- pdusen [n=pdusen@crob4-55.flint.umich.edu] has joined #go-nuts 16:47 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 16:55 -!- eno [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:01 -!- sinuhe [n=user@97-117-67-167.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:09 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 17:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6cv3W by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/runtime/386/ -- runtime: reset DF flag after running external code on 386 17:10 -!- Metaphis [n=cyanure@81-65-198-68.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #go-nuts 17:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6cv9z by [Russ Cox] in go/lib/codereview/ -- codereview: split name list only on commas; some user names have spaces 17:10 -!- nanoo [n=nano@95-89-197-218-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10 -!- Kibiz0r [n=Adium@wndsnyhed01-pool1-a130.wndsny.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:12 -!- Ortzinator [n=ortzinat@unaffiliated/ortzinator] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:13 -!- smooge [n=smooge@int.smoogespace.com] has quit ["-ENOBRAIN"] 17:14 -!- smooge [n=smooge@int.smoogespace.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:14 -!- trickie [n=trickie@94.100.112.225] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:30 -!- abiosoft1 [n=ibrahim@41.219.232.106] has joined #go-nuts 17:31 -!- carllerche [n=carllerc@99.22.229.11] has joined #go-nuts 17:32 -!- abiosoft1 [n=ibrahim@41.219.232.106] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:33 -!- deso [n=deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has quit ["Computer has gone to sleep"] 17:40 -!- Ortzinator [n=ortzinat@unaffiliated/ortzinator] has joined #go-nuts 17:40 -!- abiosoft [n=Ibrahim@41.219.245.100] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:52 -!- callidus [n=quassel@cpc2-newc1-0-0-cust1524.gate.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:53 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@82-170-227-44.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 17:56 -!- p4p4 [n=P4p4@24.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:18 -!- General1337 [n=support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:19 -!- cthom061 [n=kaitlyn_@wsip-70-169-149-118.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:21 * LuitvD walks about 18:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6cJG5 by [Devon H. 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Why does it think most of that stuff is harmful? 19:30 < Eridius> Especially, why does it think sed 11q is better than head? 19:33 < aho> looks silly and pointless to me 19:33 < Eridius> cat-v.org is a site that has a lot to do with Plan 9 19:33 < Eridius> and Rob Pike 19:33 < Eridius> not sure who writes most of the content though 19:34 -!- iwikiwi [n=iwikiwi@202.3.77.160] has joined #go-nuts 19:35 -!- qjcg [n=adminsfl@208.88.110.46] has joined #go-nuts 19:37 < dho> Eridius: uriel does 19:37 < Eridius> ok 19:38 < dho> a few other people have access (me for instance) but I only do a little correcting here and there 19:38 < dho> and the plan 9 gsoc site 19:38 < Eridius> heh, I linked the harmful.cat-v.org on #macdev and the folks there are just as confused as me as to why most of the stuff listed there is considered harmful 19:39 < Eridius> the following seems especially bizarre: “Harmful things that are so superfluous and useless that require no alternative:” -- “Dynamic linking, in particular in Unix systems.” 19:42 < skelterjohn> it's tongue-in-cheek 19:43 < vsmatck1> That page is pretty pointless. Lots of claims, little substance. I get the impression it's not to be taken too seriously, given the joke cartoon on the previous page. 19:43 < dho> please just stop talking about it 19:43 < skelterjohn> lol 19:43 < dho> You will get 10 pages of justification from uriel otherwise. 19:43 < dho> in here 19:43 < skelterjohn> his name has already been pinged twice 19:44 < skelterjohn> it's inevitable at this point 19:44 < Eridius> hehe 19:44 < vsmatck1> That page sounds like uriel actually. :) 19:44 < skelterjohn> 3 times. doom is nigh 19:44 < dho> that's because it's his page 19:44 < vsmatck1> He's a monster. 19:44 < vsmatck1> :) 19:46 -!- qjcg [n=adminsfl@208.88.110.46] has left #go-nuts [] 19:49 -!- carllerche [n=carllerc@99.22.229.11] has quit [] 19:53 -!- ayo [n=nya@e179200011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 19:59 -!- carllerche [n=carllerc@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:59 -!- DerHorst [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 20:06 -!- DerHorst [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:06 -!- KirkMcDonald [n=Kirk@pysoy/developer/KirkMcDonald] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:07 -!- KirkMcDonald [n=Kirk@pysoy/developer/KirkMcDonald] has joined #go-nuts 20:12 -!- aho [n=nya@f051026068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:14 -!- ShadowIce [n=pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:15 -!- Vova [n=Vova@IGLD-84-228-96-143.inter.net.il] has joined #go-nuts 20:16 < jhh> I actually would love to see what happens. Only know excerpts or rather reactions from his cites page. 20:19 < pavelz> hi, is there a good tutorial site with code that uses various packages and what not? I've scraped stackoverflow, and 20:19 -!- MIR100 [n=MIR100@24-148-89-37.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:20 < pavelz> "go tutorial" yeilds more or less nothing. I would love to see some code , like server code or whatever small application code so I can see way people use the language. ie mokey see monkey do style just for the start. 20:22 < skelterjohn> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/pure-go-libs 20:22 -!- snearch_ [n=olaf@g225053063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:22 < skelterjohn> not tutorials, but lots of code 20:22 < pavelz> thanks! 20:23 < skelterjohn> heh, the "gocluster" library is under the "distributed computing" topic, though the word cluster in this case has nothing to do with computer clusters 20:23 < skelterjohn> but rather cluster in the machine learning sense of grouping together related pieces of data 20:23 < pavelz> hah miscategorized 20:24 < skelterjohn> should go in misc, perhaps, unless a "machine learning" section is added :) 20:48 -!- Kashia [n=Kashia@port-92-200-231-27.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:55 -!- Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:57 -!- codedread [i=180dd699@gateway/web/freenode/x-bsvoloinemjsxemg] has joined #go-nuts 20:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6dbk6 by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/doc/ -- Clarify when expressions are evaluated for a range clause. 20:57 -!- codedread [i=180dd699@gateway/web/freenode/x-bsvoloinemjsxemg] has left #go-nuts [] 21:08 -!- plainhao [n=plainhao@mail.xbiotica.com] has quit [] 21:10 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has quit [] 21:12 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 21:12 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 21:15 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6deuQ by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ -- godoc: skip template wrapping for complete HTML files 21:29 -!- dju [n=dju@89-158-236-229.rev.dartybox.com] has quit ["Quitte"] 21:30 -!- hcatlin [n=hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [] 21:30 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6dhaJ by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/container/vector/ -- vector: drop rule for bench, now in Make.pkg 21:33 -!- selby_fiedler [n=selby_fi@68-27-240-241.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:33 -!- Olathe [n=Olathe@173-19-108-228.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:47 -!- deso [n=deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:51 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:55 -!- oal [n=olav@5.79-160-122.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:58 -!- LuitvD [n=luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [] 22:05 -!- mbarkhau [n=koloss@p54A7EC9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:09 -!- hcatlin [n=hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 22:11 -!- ericvh [n=ericvh@32.97.110.63] has left #go-nuts [] 22:13 -!- raichoo [n=raichoo@i577BA6DC.versanet.de] has joined #go-nuts 22:15 -!- mmw [n=mmw@2002:51f2:994b:0:223:6cff:fe84:1914] has joined #go-nuts 22:15 -!- hcatlin [n=hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [] 22:21 -!- selby_fiedler [n=selby_fi@68-27-240-241.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:24 -!- ericvh [n=ericvh@32.97.110.63] has joined #go-nuts 22:24 -!- ericvh [n=ericvh@32.97.110.63] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:32 -!- jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 22:32 < jauaor> hello 22:33 < jauaor> Undefined symbols: 22:33 < jauaor> "_main", referenced from: 22:33 < jauaor> start in crt1.10.5.o 22:33 < jauaor> ld: symbol(s) not found 22:33 < jauaor> when trying to compile in mac os x , any idea? 22:35 < jauaor> during making libcgo 22:38 -!- DerHorst [n=Horst@e176112037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:41 < dagle> jauaor: Is that release or the latest? 22:42 < jauaor> dagle: release 22:42 < jauaor> just cloned it few minutes ago 22:42 -!- amacleod [n=amacleod@c-75-69-45-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:43 < dagle> jauaor: Ok. Well i don't have a mac. Tried the ML? 22:44 < jhh> which os x are you running, jauaor? 22:44 < jauaor> dagle: not yet, tried asking here first 22:44 < jauaor> jhh: leopard, 10.5.6 22:44 < jauaor> err, sorry 22:44 < jauaor> 10.5.8 22:45 < jhh> i got snow leopard, it's working fine here 22:45 < jhh> i saw that error already, had nothing to do with go though 22:46 < jhh> hm no, was something different 22:47 * jauaor looking through the bug tracker 22:47 < Venom_X> looks like a static lib inclusion problem 22:48 < jauaor> yeah, linking order issue? 22:48 < jhh> but it's not that it's not finding a lib. it's missing a symbol, isn't it? 22:49 < jauaor> missing a symbol between the object files? 22:51 * jauaor can't find anything in bug tracker 22:51 < Venom_X> jauaor: definitely should upgrade to snow leopard 22:53 < jhh> maybe try top 22:53 < jhh> tip 22:53 < jhh> you have the most recent xcode, don't you? 22:55 -!- snearch_ [n=olaf@g225053063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 22:58 -!- afurlan [n=afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:59 < jauaor> jhh: mm.. using 3.1 22:59 < jauaor> seems like there isnew one, let's try 23:01 < Venom_X> jauaor: check that you have crt1.o, then make sure that there's a sym-link to crt1.10.5.o 23:01 < Venom_X> or vice vs 23:03 < jauaor> Venom_X: yeah, there 23:05 < Venom_X> ok, so then it must be a static lib issue. OS X wants dynamic libs afaik 23:06 -!- TWD [n=twdsje@c-67-186-236-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:16 -!- b00m_chef [n=watr@128.189.65.42] has joined #go-nuts 23:17 -!- General13372 [n=support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 23:19 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-52-223.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:19 -!- sinuhe [n=user@97-117-67-167.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:21 -!- fgb [n=fgb@190.246.85.45] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:24 -!- jhnx [i=bb17b1d3@gateway/web/freenode/x-xoppshymjfguoilv] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 23:24 -!- Wiz126 [i=Wiz126@72.20.221.147] has joined #go-nuts 23:26 -!- goplexian [n=user@d154-20-0-9.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:28 -!- TWD|dissed [n=twdsje@c-67-186-236-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:28 -!- mward_ [n=mward@231.sub-75-207-66.myvzw.com] has joined #go-nuts 23:28 -!- p4p4_ [n=P4p4@24.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:30 -!- ikuta [n=ikuta@61-62-1-105-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has quit [] 23:32 -!- XniX23 [i=vegy@89-212-10-29.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:32 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6dDRL by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of go/ -- Distinguish between html generation and html quoting in godoc formatters. 23:33 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-19-215.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 23:34 < jauaor> problem solved, was using "linux" instead of "darwin" in GOOS (mistyped) ..... 23:34 < jauaor> :P 23:34 < dagle> Yeah. That would be a problem. XD 23:34 -!- General1337 [n=support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:36 -!- tbourdon [n=tbourdon@wsip-72-215-204-133.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:36 < jauaor> hehe 23:36 -!- sktrdie [i=sktrdie@71-87-115-213.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 23:36 < jauaor> it went good, though i had to re-run make all (it failed in a test in first run) 23:37 < sktrdie> does golang compile to machine code? 23:37 < sktrdie> does this mean i can send my golang binaries to other computers? 23:38 -!- tomestla [n=tom@AToulouse-151-1-19-215.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 23:38 -!- mward [n=mward@chml01.drwholdings.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:43 -!- XniX23 [i=vegy@89-212-10-29.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has quit [] 23:47 -!- ayo [n=nya@e179200011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION"] 23:48 -!- TWD [n=twdsje@c-67-186-236-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:52 -!- tor7 [n=tor@c-987a71d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 23:53 -!- mmw [n=mmw@2002:51f2:994b:0:223:6cff:fe84:1914] has quit [] 23:56 -!- callidus [n=quassel@cpc2-newc1-0-0-cust1524.gate.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:57 -!- happy_ [n=stephen@pool-96-232-88-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:57 -!- skelterjohn [n=jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts --- Log closed Thu Jan 14 00:00:46 2010