--- Log opened Mon Jan 18 00:00:46 2010
00:08 < jauaor> dagle: i still get confuse between "=" and":=" usage, for
what I have read and found, ":=" is initialization-wise ?
00:08 < dagle> Yes.
00:08 < dagle> var a int = 5
00:08 < dagle> a := 5
00:08 < dagle> same.
00:10 < dagle> It's shorter and the compiler doesn't need the extra info.
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00:39 < igor-> can anyone tell me why this is so?
http://igoralmeida.pastebin.com/m50f9b0e4
00:40 < happy> igor-: what is the error when it does not compile?
00:40 < igor-> syntax error near `<string>`
00:40 < igor-> it does compile if I put a comma before the newline
00:41 < happy> igor-: no idea.  :-\
00:41 < igor-> like `PS1`: `test`,<newline>}
00:42 < dagle> igor-: the } needs to be on the same line as the las
argument.
00:42 < dagle> last*
00:42 < happy> dagle: why?
00:43 < dagle> Thats the syntax.
00:43 < happy> ok
00:43 < dagle> Dunno why.
00:43 < dagle> Like else need to be on the same line as }
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00:44 < happy> dagle: that got me.  It took me a while to figure out the
else thing
00:44 < dagle> happy: Hehe.  The fist versions did not force that.
00:45 < happy> dagle: why does it now?
00:45 < igor-> dagle: thank you.  i just noticed
http://golang.org/doc/effective_go.html#maps has a comma in the last item as well.
this should be made more explicit though..
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00:46 < happy> dagle: I thought it was just a mistake that they decided not
to get rid of because it would break their fast parser
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00:46 < happy> lol
00:46 < dagle> Maybe the bnf / parser got nicer if they forced their way of
codeing.
00:47 < dagle> I put it like that so I can't say that I care really.
00:47 < happy> bnf?
00:48 < dagle> EBNF* , language specification
00:48 < happy> dagle: alot of go seems to enfoce certain ways people code.
00:48 < happy> dagle: ways certain people code*
00:48 < dagle> Hehe.
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00:49 < dagle> Bad stile -> gofmt -> compile -> profit.  :D
00:49 < happy> I guess it makes it "cleaner" if all code looks exactly the
same :-P
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00:50 < happy> dagle: that is exactly what I mean.  When I saw gofmt, I
realized that they were making sure everyone coded like them.  Although, I am
conflicted on whether that is a bad thing.
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00:51 < dagle> Dunno.
00:51 < dagle> Sleep.
00:51 < happy> ?
00:52 < dagle> It's 02.00 here.
00:52 < dagle> I need to sleep.
00:52 < happy> ah
00:52 < happy> where are you?
00:52 < dagle> Sweden.
00:52 < happy> cool
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02:39 < happy> I have a question.  Can I make a constant a call to a
function?  Would that allow the function to be run during compile time?  I want to
set a constant to equal regexp.MustCompile(`something here`).
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02:42 < jessta> happy: I don't think you can
02:42 < KirkMcDonald> Functions cannot be evaluated at compile-time.
02:42 < happy> KirkMcDonald: thanks
02:43 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I am wondering if there is a way to not have to
compile at runtime.
02:43 < KirkMcDonald> Is that really so onerous?
02:43 < happy> nope
02:43 < happy> just wondering :-P
02:46 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I want your opinion on something.  Do you know
anything about xml.Unmarshal?
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02:47 < KirkMcDonald> Never used it.
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02:47 < happy> ok
02:48 < KirkMcDonald> It looks logical enough.
02:48 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I want it to also support reading numbers.  But
what would it return if it can not parse a number?
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02:49 < happy> KirkMcDonald: right now it only does strings.  Which does not
work since I am working with nzbs
02:49 < KirkMcDonald> happy: I would expect it to leave the struct you pass
to it in an undefined state, and return an Error.
02:50 < happy> KirkMcDonald: the issue with that is I would want it to keep
parsing the file...
02:50 < KirkMcDonald> Ah.
02:50 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I am trying to work out how it could gracefully
not put anything there.
02:51 < happy> 0 might mean something to someone.  In my case it would be
perfect if it read numbers and gave 0 if it could not parse the number
02:51 < KirkMcDonald> Well, it is not like there is an "invalid"
bit-sequence for an int.
02:52 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I know.  That is my problem
02:52 < happy> Do you think returning a 0 on failure would be a bad thing?
02:52 < KirkMcDonald> Depends on context.
02:53 < happy> KirkMcDonald: I guess this is why it only supports strings
:-\
02:53 < KirkMcDonald> Could be.
02:54 < happy> KirkMcDonald: my ultimate goal is to make a tool I have been
wanting for a long time.  It would take nzb files and concatinate/sort them
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02:56 < happy> KirkMcDonald: does slice[-1] work?  or do I need to include
len?
02:57 < osaunders> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1059211
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03:02 < happy> osaunders: "It's almost like you didn't read a single word
beyond the title of the initial post."
03:03 < osaunders> Yeah.
03:03 < happy> osaunders: I think you should not use go.  Unlike other
languages, examples and documentation are not there.  For just about any
established language, I can search the language name and my problem and someone
else had the same one
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03:05 < osaunders> happy: Hm.
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03:06 < osaunders> happy: Are you using go?
03:06 < happy> osaunders: I am making relativly simple programs.  First I
made a program for moving files based on how old they were, now I am making a
program to manipulate a very simple type of xml file.
03:07 < happy> osaunders: the first program I made reimplemented a simple
bash script
03:07 < osaunders> Are you finding it difficult?
03:07 < happy> very.  But I am not a good programmer to begin with
03:08 < osaunders> OK.
03:08 < happy> I mostly used python and bash before this.  Although I had
made stuff in php and played with C
03:08 < osaunders> You don't program for a living then?
03:08 < happy> And I only have an APCS knollege of Java :-)
03:09 < happy> osaunders: I am 17 :-P
03:09 < osaunders> Oh, well done.
03:09 < happy> I programmed as an intern in PHP.  And I have made some very
cool python projects.
03:09 < osaunders> I'm not sure why you're age provoked that response from
me but I'm going to stand by it anyway.  :-P
03:09 < osaunders> *your
03:10 < happy> lol
03:11 < happy> I am doing the nzb project from the ground up so it will have
a lib and cmd line program
03:11 < osaunders> Your suggestion not to learn go and your reasons for it
cause my brain to imagine the difficulty I might expect in a more realistic way.
Thank you for making it do that.  Although I have to say I'm not sufficiently put
off.
03:11 < happy> I plan to make a rss parser using what I am learning from
this.
03:11 < happy> lol
03:12 < happy> osaunders: I am just giving my point of view.  If you search
"go" and a compiler error, you are not going to get anything :-(
03:12 < osaunders> Yeah.
03:12 < osaunders> Good RSS parsers are really hell to write because people
don't obey the standards (yes, plural) properly.
03:12 < happy> lol
03:12 < metapandava> I CONCUR.
03:13 < nf> RSS parser?  you mean XML parser?
03:13 < happy> nf: there is an xml parser.  I mean make an idiot proof one
for rss
03:13 < nf> by idiot-proof you mean fault-tolerant?
03:13 < happy> nf: feedparser from python is what I am thinking of.  It has
made my life so much easier
03:14 < happy> nf: more easy to program with.
03:14 < nf> but it'd be a wrapper around an xml parser, right?
03:14 < happy> nf: go has an xml parser
03:14 < happy> nf: I was going to use that
03:14 < nf> that's what i was asking
03:14 < happy> ok
03:15 < happy> nf: I am doing this stuff for fun.  If I make something that
is not too useful, I do not mind
03:15 < nf> i'm not sure how forgiving go's XML parser.  sometimes you need
something that'll take more rubbish input and make sense of it - i don't know if
anything like that exists for go yet.
03:15 < nf> s/go's XML parser/go's XML parser is/
03:16 < happy> I do not understand why there is so many problems with rss
feeds :-\
03:16 < nf> for example in Python-land there is BeautifulSoup, which is
designed to parse HTML/XML and handle malformed input in a graceful way
03:17 < nf> happy: because there are so many different programs that output
RSS feeds.  programmers make mistakes and take shortcuts.
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03:17 < happy> nf: ah.  I just don't understand what is so hard about making
generating xml and then checking it :-\
03:18 < happy> nf: I have generated rss files with php.  It does not seem
that difficult
03:18 < osaunders> No, it's not.
03:18 < osaunders> But apparently that doesn't stop people getting it wrong.
03:18 < nf> happy: the problem is that people have varying standards.  a lot
of programmers will build a feed, test it in their feed reader, and if it works
it's done.
03:18 < osaunders> Yeah, exactly.
03:18 < happy> oh and sorry I keep highlighting people.  I am normally in
rooms with 20 conversations at once
03:19 < osaunders> I like the quietness here.
03:19 < happy> so do I
03:19 < osaunders> I like the monofocus.
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03:19 < happy> that makes sense
03:19 < nf> I wonder if someone will find a reason to produce something like
BeautifulSoup for Go.
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03:20 < happy> we can always pray.
03:20 < nf> Pray for a reason?  ;) We don't need *more* work just for the
sake of it!
03:20 < osaunders> There's Tidy.
03:21 < osaunders> Not Go though but I think that's written in C so you
could call it from Go if you needed.
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03:21 < happy> osaunders: I am afraid of cgo based on what I have heard
03:21 < osaunders> Oh?
03:22 < osaunders> Shit, it's going to be 4am by the time I go to bed.
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03:23 < happy> osaunders: I have just seen alot of people having problems
with it.  And when one person says it does not "support callbacks" and another
says "It does, it is just hard to do".  It scares me :-\
03:24 < osaunders> OK, well, I think I'll play around with some basic Go
tomorrow and we'll see what happens.
03:24 < nf> happy: you said earlier you're not really a C programmer, right?
then of course it is going to be daunting for you at first
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03:24 < happy> nf: I have not even used it
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03:24 < happy> I am saying I have seen others in the room talking about it
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03:25 < happy> I figure I will wait a few months before I look at cgo
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03:25 < nf> happy: Indeed.  I'm just pointing out for the benefit of any
observers that cgo shouldn't be regarded as scary or broken.  Under-documented,
maybe.
03:26 < happy> ok
03:26 < nf> :)
03:26 < happy> I am scared of it either way.  I come from python.  Anything
without a tutorial 101 is scary to me.
03:27 < happy> Go is the first time I am using a library without a tutorial
:-\
03:28 < happy> nf: libcurl, libxml2, ect all have nice tutorials :-)
03:28 < nf> there's a lot more documentation and sample code on the horizon,
fear not
03:29 < happy> lol
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03:40 < happy> anyone know what function converts a string to an int?
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03:44 < vsrinivas> hi world!
03:44 < vsrinivas> silly me tried to use bitfields in my cgo files, 8c laid
the smackdown...
03:45 < kevinwatt> happy: http://golang.org/pkg/strconv/#Atof64
03:45 < happy> ty
03:46 < happy> lol
03:46 < vsrinivas> :D
03:47 < happy> Atoi is like Atoi64 but returns its result as an int; Atoi64
is like Atoui64 but allows signed numbers and returns its result in an int64.;
Atoui is like Atoui64 but returns its result as a uint.
03:48 < happy> does it go on forever?  They are in reverse order :-\
03:48 < happy> the one at the top says refer to the next one which says
refer to the next one...
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04:10 < res> what are the dirs/files that are absolutely required in GOROOT
after building (ie, just for using the bins; 8g, etc)?
04:13 < happy> res: you can get rid of all .* dir/files.  I think that only
the pkg dir is required.  I would test it out.  Don't just delete the stuff
04:13 < happy> res: why do you want to get rid of that stuff anyways?
04:15 < res> happy: i'm packaging it for a distro
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04:17 < happy> res: make sure you put the docs somewhere.  What distro?
04:18 < res> arch
04:18 < happy> nice
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05:00 < res> should i call the package gc or go?
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05:01 < happy> res: why not call the package go-amd64, go-ect
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05:02 < happy> res: are you going to have seperate packages for 6g, 8g, ect?
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05:04 < res> happy: not for now.  the script uses GOARCH= depending on
CARCH.  easily modifiable in the buildscript
05:05 < happy> res: what if people want to cross compile?
05:05 < res> yea they'll have to edit the script which is 40 lines long :p
05:05 < happy> lol
05:06 < happy> nice :-P
05:06 < happy> I would call it go than
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05:07 < happy> then*
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05:08 < nf> res: since it include the linker and the compiler i'd call it
'go'
05:09 < happy> nf: that was my feelings :-)
05:13 < skelterjohn> dho and jhh have been thinking about how to do a nice
build tool, too - rsc asked dho to make it
05:13 < skelterjohn> i don't know how much progress they've made
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05:15 < vegai> res: note that there's a golang in AUR already
05:15 < res> vegai: yep
05:16 < vegai> I guess you're doing release version packages?
05:17 < res> im posting my pkgbuild since his kinda sucks :/
05:17 < vegai> I was going to make a package to community repo from release
versions
05:17 < vegai> but didn't find the time/motivation yet
05:18 < vegai> if you wanna contribute to that effort, it'd be great
05:22 < res> cool!  i'm thinking /opt/go/pkg ?
05:22 < res> i'll pastebin my pkgbuild in a bit, or maybe we should have
this convo in #archlinux
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05:24 < happy> res: are you sure pkg is the only dir needed to run the bins?
05:25 < happy> res: I just want to know :-)
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07:23 < res> happy: i can compile just fine with just pkg.  although i've
left doc, misc and pkg and copied license elsewere
07:24 < happy> res: cool.  thanks for the info :-)
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08:06 < vegai> didn't we have a gopaste thingie once...
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08:13 < happy> vegai: what happened to it?
08:15 < vegai> if it was this one http://gopaste.org/, it turned to some
guys advertisement :P
08:15 < happy> lol
08:15 < happy> I know
08:15 < happy> I looked :-P
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09:40 < vegai> "go" package going to arch linux's community repository soon,
btw
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09:44 < LuitvD> http://code.google.com/p/luitvd/source/browse?repo=gocairo
09:44 < LuitvD> got my code in a repo now :)
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15:02 < kerozen> hi
15:04 < osaunders> hi
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15:16 < danopia_> hi
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15:52 < goplexian> vegai: still around?
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16:04 < dagle> Anybody that have constructed a builder with the reflect
package?
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16:05 < jhh> what do you mean with builder
16:05 < jhh> ?
16:05 < vegai> goplexian: here I am
16:05 < dagle> jhh: Look at the json package.
16:06 < goplexian> vegai: I sent you a pm a couple minutes ago but not sure
if you got it my client crashed at almost the exact same moment.
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16:08 < vegai> goplexian: I didn't
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16:09 < goplexian> vegai: np, so you are looking for rpm's of Go? I'm
contemplating rolling some myself actually, but I'm not related to the go-project,
just as an outside contributor
16:09 * dho wonders if wxs committed the freebsd port
16:10 < vegai> goplexian: actually, arch linux packages
16:10 < vegai> not rpms
16:11 < goplexian> vegai: arch is deb based right?
16:11 < dagle> Nope.
16:11 < vegai> nope, it's original
16:11 < goplexian> ahha
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16:12 < goplexian> sorry, then clearly I'm not the droid you're looking for
16:12 < dagle> :)
16:12 * goplexian wiggles fingers
16:13 < dagle> Move along.
16:13 < goplexian> I'm sure packages will start to get made, once one distro
gets them most others eventually follow suit
16:13 < vegai> heh
16:14 < vegai> perhaps mine is the first binary package :P
16:14 < dagle> :)
16:15 < goplexian> eww binary
16:15 < vegai> it's already in the repos and mirrors
16:15 < dagle> golang is ok in that way.  It takes 3 minutes to compile and
intsall.
16:16 < goplexian> vegai arch lets you upload binary backages?
16:16 < dagle> Source version of gcc...  wouldn't touch that.
16:16 < vegai> goplexian: :-P
16:16 < vegai> goplexian: DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM
16:16 < goplexian> vegai: no, im just surprised about the binary part, isnt
that a big security risk?
16:17 < vegai> oh, wait.  This is the universe where I'm a nobody :P
16:17 < vegai> I'm a developer
16:17 < vegai> that makes it slightly less of a security risk supposedly
16:18 < goplexian> hmm, well I know redhat requires everything to be
submitted as source rpm's and then the system compiles them itself with approved
flags and such
16:18 < vegai> ah, this is what you meant
16:18 < goplexian> cause I'm pretty sure you can inject things into binarys
16:18 < vegai> certainly
16:19 < vegai> we just rely on a hierarchy.  Some people have write access
to the repos
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16:19 < vegai> and users
16:20 < goplexian> I see
16:20 < goplexian> ring'o'trust
16:20 < vegai> that's not a bad idea, though
16:21 < goplexian> circle of trust works for Linus, so I'm sure it can work
for others as well
16:22 < goplexian> but me, i prefer the 'trust no-one' model :P
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17:07 < LuitvD> http://code.google.com/p/luitvd/source/browse?repo=gocairo
17:07 < LuitvD> anyone interested?
17:08 < LuitvD> seems to be quite easy to use cairo in Go
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17:29 < goplexian> is there a #go-nuts-devel type channel?
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17:32 < cworth> LuitvD: Cool.  I've been hoping to be see a simple way to
use cairo from Go soon.
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17:35 < LuitvD> cworth: couldn't you have made it yourself?
17:35 < LuitvD> cworth, prior to this I had absolutely no knowledge of or
experience with cairo
17:36 < cworth> LuitvD: Not likely.  I don't know any Go yet.
17:36 < LuitvD> and I did it
17:36 < LuitvD> oh, right :P
17:36 < LuitvD> some 2 weeks ago neither did I
17:36 < cworth> LuitvD: Where's the implementation of what 'import "cairo"'
pulls in?
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17:36 < LuitvD> in the cairo folder
17:36 < cworth> LuitvD: Oh, found it.
17:36 < cworth> LuitvD: Yeah, I didn't realize that the initial view wasn't
already "in" the cairo folder.
17:37 < LuitvD> and make install in that folder dumps it among the regular
package binaries like fmt, image, etc.
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17:37 < cworth> The FFI stuff certainly looks pretty nice.
17:37 < cworth> (Though I don't love the CamelCase.  Is that fairly standard
for Go?)
17:38 < LuitvD> I guess, I could change that still...
17:38 < LuitvD> it's a very thin implementation
17:38 < LuitvD> it's still just a binding for what I need, not all cairo has
to offer
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17:39 < cworth> LuitvD: Right.
17:39 < cworth> LuitvD: But obviously very easy to extend.
17:40 < cworth> LuitvD: So to answer your question, I'm at least very
interested.  Thanks for sharing.
17:40 < LuitvD> cworth, it is :)
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17:41 < cworth> LuitvD: Any thoughts yet on actually creating a new window
(with X, say) and drawing to that with cairo from Go?
17:41 * LuitvD is still not sure if the binding is leaking memory in the C part
17:41 < LuitvD> cworth: I need to take a good look at the already created
gosurface binding
17:42 < LuitvD> cworth: though just using the existing xgb package to
directly bind cairo to X would be nicer
17:42 * LuitvD is gonna cook some food now
17:42 < LuitvD> bbl
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17:59 < happy> hello everybody
18:00 < ni|> hey happy
18:00 < ni|> wb
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18:01 < happy> ty :-)
18:01 < ni|> have you been programming anything interesting lately?
18:02 < happy> nope.  Still working on nzb lib
18:02 < ni|> cool
18:02 < skelterjohn> paper deadline on feb 1st
18:02 < skelterjohn> then i hope to implement some of my research in go
18:02 < ni|> i'm trying to make an IOKIT plugin for mac os x
18:02 < skelterjohn> instead of java
18:03 < ni|> so drivers can be written
18:03 < ni|> its so new idk how to design it yet
18:03 < happy> next step is to make something to print nzb files.  Then a
concatination program and sorting program
18:04 < happy> ni|: the plan is to have a sorting system so you can sort a
sort.  I have been thinking of implementing this for a while.  So I can specify
that I first want it sorted with the rar file first and then in alphabetical order
18:04 < ni|> ah cool
18:05 < cworth> LuitvD: Yeah.  Maybe I'll see if aj wants to play with this.
He was asking me yesterday for some super-lightweight binding for cairo within
almost any interesting language.
18:05 < ni|> sorry to ditch but my lunch just got here and i have a broken
ankle so i don't want to make them wait for me to eat
18:05 < happy> ni|: go wat :-)
18:05 < happy> eat*
18:08 < skelterjohn> what does it mean to sort a sort
18:08 < happy> skelterjohn: compound sorts
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18:08 < skelterjohn> I still don't get it, sorry :) could you explain more
18:09 < happy> so one sort can set the .rar first and the pars last.  And
another one can do alphabetically on each sorted segment
18:09 < happy> so anything that is not a .rar or par would be sorted
alphabetically
18:09 < skelterjohn> i see
18:09 < happy> and each par would be sorted alphabetically at the end
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18:14 < skelterjohn> so rather than something that, for instance, just works
in place on an array, you'd need something that would return an ordered list of
"equivalent" item sets, so each of those equivalence sets could then be re-sorted
18:15 < happy> skelterjohn: I figure that I pretty much made something like
that
18:15 < happy> an array of the struct I use before it is sorted would work
18:15 < happy> then I can use the cat func I am creating
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18:55 * LuitvD is happy with the speed of cairo
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19:03 < ntome> hi
19:03 < happy_> hi
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19:03 < ntome> i've just downloaded go, and ran make, and at some point, it
fails
19:03 < ntome> it's when doing the test of pkg/http
19:04 < skelterjohn> happens
19:04 < ntome> http://pastebin.com/m10e8a04e
19:05 < ntome> skelterjohn: what do you mean ?
19:05 < skelterjohn> that test fails for me sometimes
19:05 < skelterjohn> most of the time
19:05 < skelterjohn> you can still use go though
19:06 < skelterjohn> even though a package test failed
19:06 < dho> usually due to firewall
19:06 < ntome> skelterjohn: i've got the impression it stopped the build of
the other packages
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19:06 < ntome> dho: i don't have a firewall
19:06 < skelterjohn> If it's running the package tests, it has already built
the other packages
19:07 < skelterjohn> what gives you that impression?
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19:07 < happy_> skelterjohn: he thought that becuase the program stopped
19:07 < happy_> ntome: it is all compiled :-)
19:07 < ntome> skelterjohn: was a wrong impression
19:08 < dho> I don't like that build automatically runs tests.
19:08 < skelterjohn> things go in this order (as far as I can tell): compile
go, build packages, run tests
19:08 < dho> This is a FAQ
19:08 < ntome> skelterjohn: can't other packages be tested ?
19:08 < ntome> dho: agreed
19:08 < skelterjohn> ntome: you can test them manually by going into the pkg
source dir and running gotest
19:08 < dho> But with the current age, I guess it's required.
19:08 < skelterjohn> i imagine...i haven't actually tried that
19:09 < ntome> well, it's cumbersome
19:09 < skelterjohn> sure
19:09 < skelterjohn> i don't bother :)
19:10 < ntome> ok, thanks btw
19:11 < dho> that said, you can just run make build
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19:16 < ntome> but, is it a bad sign if i try to do networking programs ?
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19:17 < dho> probably not
19:17 < dho> could also be a DNS issue or something else you're unlikely to
hit otherwise
19:17 < dho> Or it may be a bug that you can't work around and it needs
fixing
19:17 < ntome> ok, so i'll try first
19:17 < dho> looks like one of those `it happens' things
19:18 < skelterjohn> exactly.
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19:25 < exiquio> anyone: I am looking for a way to see if a file exists in
the packages.  I could use Open and Close from ioutils to see if one exists, but
that seems to be wrong way to go about it.  I looked around in os and syscall, but
nothing seemed to jump out at me.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
19:26 < exiquio> *"I am looking in the packages for a way to see if a file
exists..."
19:26 < happy_> exiquio: I would try to stat them
19:26 < happy_> if the stat fails, they don't exist
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19:27 < happy_> exiquio: the Dir struct returned can be used to determine if
it is a dir or file
19:28 < exiquio> happy: I assume you are refering to the unix stat command.
Is that so?
19:28 < happy_> no
19:28 < happy_> os.Stat
19:29 < exiquio> :happy: thanks a lot
19:29 < happy_> np
19:29 < happy_> first stat it.  If dir = nil and err is not nil it is not
there
19:30 < exiquio> will do
19:30 < happy_> if the dir is not nil, you can use dir.IsDirectory
19:30 < happy_> :-)
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19:48 < LuitvD> is not being able to connect to my Xserver with xgb a common
problem?
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19:53 < skelterjohn> no idea - I don't even know what xgb is
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19:55 < LuitvD> xgb is the Go equivalent of XCB
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19:55 < skelterjohn> don't know what xcb is either
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19:58 < skelterjohn> Clearly, I'm useless.
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20:00 < napsy> Why can't I initialize this array like this
http://pastebin.com/m2338f943 ...  it gives an error?
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20:00 < skelterjohn> [9][]int{[9]int{1,2...},[9]int{3,4...},...}
20:01 < napsy> huh
20:01 < napsy> oh ok I thought it was more C-like
20:01 < goplexian> LuitvD: I dont use it, but I believe that X has to be set
to listen to tcp
20:01 < skelterjohn> I think that [x][y]type{{a, b, c},{d, e, f}} would be
good sugar for that
20:02 < LuitvD> ooooooh
20:02 < skelterjohn> it's a very common problem to have
20:02 < LuitvD> thanks for the note, goplexian :)
20:02 < LuitvD> I'll check for that
20:02 < napsy> cannot use (node ARRAYLIT) (type [9]int) as type []int in
array index
20:02 < napsy> I got this now
20:03 < skelterjohn> maybe [9][9]int{[9]int{...?
20:03 < napsy> http://pastebin.com/m55020128
20:03 < napsy> this is my code
20:03 < napsy> I'll try
20:03 < napsy> oh it goes now
20:03 < napsy> thanks
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20:04 < skelterjohn> np
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20:07 < goplexian> LuitvD: check this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/2deec459b8710a3b/4c73daef032d7f55?lnk=gst&q=xgb+os.Getenv("DISPLAY")#4c73daef032d7f55
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20:08 < LuitvD> goplexian, I've already found some info
20:08 < LuitvD> but thanks anyway :)
20:08 < goplexian> ah good, ok
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20:08 < LuitvD> I think I already have it
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20:13 < LuitvD> it doesn't have to listen to TCP really though, doesn't it?
20:13 < LuitvD> we've got UNIX Sockets haven't we?
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20:14 < dho> yep
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20:17 < LuitvD> there should be an easy way to convert $DISPLAY to the
unix-socket for the X server...
20:18 < LuitvD> can't seem to get any info from X...
20:18 < LuitvD> reading conn.Setup segfaults
20:21 < LuitvD> and an even harder error now
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20:31 < LuitvD> solved the ugly errors
20:31 < LuitvD> though now I'm left with a clean but annoying one...
20:31 < LuitvD> x protocol authentication refused: No protocol specified
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21:46 < LuitvD> dho: meh, I want this xen thing fixed :(
21:48 < exiquio> What would be an alternative to applying a method to an
external type?  I was under the assumption that I could do that.
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22:07 < LuitvD> can Go snippets be formatted with gofmt in any way?
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22:09 < skelterjohn> gopaste.org does
22:09 < skelterjohn> or...it did when it was running
22:09 * skelterjohn wonders what happened to gopaste
22:09 * happy_ also wonders what happened
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22:12 < dagle> It worked yesterday.
22:12 < dagle> No biggy.
22:14 < LuitvD> aaaaaaaaargh
22:14 < LuitvD> got figured out how xgb worked
22:15 < LuitvD> tried to find how to render for xcb from cairo
22:15 < LuitvD> turns out only Xlib is supported
22:15 < LuitvD> and XCB is broken
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22:15 < LuitvD> so xgb seems to be a no-Go for my cairo binding
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22:17 < cworth> LuitvD: XCB is broken?
22:18 < LuitvD> Cairo's XCB backend
22:18 < cworth> LuitvD: Broken how?
22:18 < LuitvD> like not supported
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22:18 * cworth is the cairo maintainer and will like to fix that...
22:18 < cworth> LuitvD: Oh, that's nothing to worry about.
22:18 < LuitvD> and the preliminary backend not fully working
22:19 < cworth> LuitvD: The fact that it's not "supported" just means we
haven't given it a "seal of approval" with guarantees of API stability, etc.
22:19 < LuitvD> true
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22:19 < cworth> LuitvD: It should be working just fine.  Or is there an
actual problem you're hitting?
22:23 < LuitvD> not yet
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22:25 < cworth> LuitvD: OK. So don't worry about that warning when building
cairo-xcb.  The cairo community really likes XCB and in a future release,
cairo-xlib will actually be implemented entirely on top of cairo-xcb.
22:26 < cworth> LuitvD: Hmm...  I get the following after copy-and-past of
the checkout command:
22:26 < cworth> $ hg clone https://gocairo.luitvd.googlecode.com/hg/
luitvd-gocairo
22:26 < cworth> abort: error: EOF occurred in violation of protocol
22:26 < cworth> Any idea?
22:26 * cworth is on a fairly flakey network at the moment, which might have
something to do with it...
22:27 < cworth> Heh.  Now I get:
22:27 < cworth> $ hg clone https://gocairo.luitvd.googlecode.com/hg/
luitvd-gocairo
22:27 < cworth> abort: error: No address associated with hostname
22:27 < cworth> (Though, for all other protocols I'm using, my network is
functional (if slow).)
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22:31 < metapandava> I love you guys.
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23:15 < jhh> how do i test the xgb package?
23:18 < LuitvD> jhh: I just tried to connect and get some X-server info
23:19 < LuitvD> needed to set `xhost +` though, nasty hack, for it to work
23:19 < LuitvD> anyone interested in making a Window Manager in Go?
23:19 < LuitvD> :P
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