--- Log opened Tue Feb 02 00:00:05 2010 --- Day changed Tue Feb 02 2010 00:00 <+iant> smw: I think it is in everywhere, yes 00:00 < smw> iant: cool :-) 00:02 < anticw> i was impressed how quickly that went from idea -> spec -> implementation 00:02 < KirkMcDonald> "... T"? 00:02 < KirkMcDonald> Type-safe variadics? 00:02 < smw> KirkMcDonald: yep 00:02 < KirkMcDonald> Very cool. 00:03 < KirkMcDonald> Can you pass a []T to the function? 00:03 < smw> not sure 00:03 <+iant> KirkMcDonald: no 00:04 <+iant> it's confusing to know whether the []T should be passed as itself or whether it should be wrapped up in as [][]T 00:04 <+iant> it's an obvious idea, though, if it can be made to work cleanly 00:08 < KirkMcDonald> How is it confusing? Isn't the type of the parameter known statically? 00:10 <+iant> sure, but what is the right thing to do if the type of the function is ... interface{} and []T matches that interface? 00:10 < KirkMcDonald> Ah. 00:10 <+iant> do we make a new slice, or pass the existing slice down unchanged? 00:10 < KirkMcDonald> I see. 00:11 <+iant> it would be a nice feature if somebody thinks of the right approach, it be like a combined printf and vprintf 00:11 -!- GeoBSD [~geobsd@lns-bzn-61-82-250-113-248.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:11 -!- hevalbaranov [~hevalbara@95.15.44.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:12 < KirkMcDonald> The ability to build the argument list as a slice at run-time could be valuable. 00:12 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:12 < KirkMcDonald> I hate to suggest it, but what about special syntax to "apply" the slice to the function? 00:13 <+iant> I think somebody might have suggested that on golang-dev and Rob didn't like it much 00:14 < KirkMcDonald> I suppose it would actually be possible to write such an "apply" function using the reflection interface. 00:14 <+iant> yes, I think so 00:16 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 00:16 -!- GeoBSD [~geobsd@lns-bzn-35-82-250-253-52.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:19 -!- emelpy [~cmadd@w143-041.wireless.uvic.ca] has quit [Quit: emelpy] 00:22 -!- fgb [~fgb@190.246.85.45] has joined #go-nuts 00:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vUAb by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/cmd/godoc/ -- don't report a couple of meaningless errors in command-line mode 00:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vUAk by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/bignum/ -- Corrected broken assertion. 00:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vUAY by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ -- gc: final ...T bug for the day 00:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vUBw by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/test/fixedbugs/bug248.dir/ -- Match gccgo error messages. 00:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vUCH by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/test/fixedbugs/bug248.dir/ -- Fix for gccgo, which uses a package prefix. 00:28 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 00:29 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:29 -!- p0g0__ [~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36 < smw> are .6 and .a files the same? 00:38 -!- jophish [~jophish@hermi.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:38 -!- JSharpe [~jamie@5ad1d7d2.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:39 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:39 < donpdonp> i believe .6 are like .o files 00:40 < donpdonp> .6 files get linked into an executable 00:40 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 00:40 < smw> donpdonp: but is it like a .a file... 00:41 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vXqZ by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/ -- Ignore the temporary files used for improved error messages. 00:41 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7vXrc by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/test/ -- Match gccgo error messages. 00:45 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 00:46 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 00:48 < donpdonp> smw: no. .a is an "archive" file or a collection of .o or in this case .6 files 00:48 < donpdonp> a .a file is a library, like libc.a 00:49 < smw> donpdonp: how can I turn a pkg into a .a using gc? 00:49 -!- kota1111 [~kota1111@gw2.kbmj.jp] has joined #go-nuts 00:50 -!- p0g0__ [~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0] has joined #go-nuts 00:51 < smw> donpdonp: I am playing around with modifying the go packages and I want to be able to replace a package without doing ./all.make 00:52 < donpdonp> smw: im in unfamiliar territory but i would expect the 6l linker to take the .6 files and build a .a 00:52 < smw> ok 00:52 < donpdonp> but thats just extrapolation based on what i know of .c and .o files 00:52 < smw> ok 00:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7w0CI by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/xml/ -- allow any scalar type in xml.Unmarshal. 00:59 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:00 -!- wuehlmaus [~wuehlmaus@p4FCC705F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:00 < smw> yay (in go/src/pkg/xml/ -- allow any scalar type in xml.Unmarshal.) 01:04 -!- p0g0__ [~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:06 -!- meatmanek [~meatmanek@mesingw.student.cwru.edu] has joined #go-nuts 01:06 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 01:09 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:11 -!- Associat0r [~Associat0@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 01:12 -!- p0g0__ [~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0] has joined #go-nuts 01:13 -!- Associat0r [~Associat0@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 01:17 -!- GeoBSD [~geobsd@lns-bzn-35-82-250-253-52.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 -!- hevalbaranov [~hevalbara@95.15.44.129] has joined #go-nuts 01:22 -!- ikke [~ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [] 01:22 -!- cai__ [~cai@124.207.47.194] has joined #go-nuts 01:24 < hevalbaranov> Hi all. I need a function which returns type of given object, is it possible? 01:24 -!- triplez [~triplez@cm107.sigma224.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: triplez] 01:24 < KirkMcDonald> hevalbaranov: See the reflect package, perhaps. 01:25 < smw> hevalbaranov: you could take an interface{} and return an interface{} 01:25 < KirkMcDonald> hevalbaranov: Perhaps with more context, we could give a more helpful answer. 01:25 -!- cai__ [~cai@124.207.47.194] has quit [Client Quit] 01:25 < hevalbaranov> KirkMcDonald, smw: thanks 01:27 < meatmanek> if I want a map that holds two values (say, an int and a string) for each key, I'd have to put these in a struct? 01:27 -!- _2010_ [~cai@124.207.47.194] has joined #go-nuts 01:27 < smw> meatmanek: yep 01:27 < meatmanek> map [keyType] struct { n int, s string } ? 01:28 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:29 < KirkMcDonald> That works. 01:29 < KirkMcDonald> Or you might make it a named type. 01:29 < meatmanek> went with the named type 01:34 -!- carllerche_ [~carllerch@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has quit [Quit: carllerche_] 01:37 < meatmanek> if I want a map of pointers, but sometimes the pointers point to one type, and sometimes they point to another type, what's a good way of implementing that? 01:37 < smw> meatmanek: reflect 01:38 < meatmanek> interesting 01:38 < meatmanek> so package unsafe? 01:39 < KirkMcDonald> meatmanek: An interface. 01:39 < KirkMcDonald> meatmanek: I would not involve reflect. 01:39 < smw> ok 01:39 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-82-66.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:39 * smw realizes he is not good at helping :-X 01:40 < KirkMcDonald> heh 01:40 -!- gnuvince [~vince@64.235.207.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40 < KirkMcDonald> meatmanek: What is the difference between the types which you might put in the dict? 01:40 -!- gnuvince [~vince@64.235.204.78] has joined #go-nuts 01:41 < meatmanek> one is an internal node for this tree I'm trying to implement 01:41 < meatmanek> the other is a leaf 01:42 < smw> meatmanek: in that case, you can use interface and then convert it to whatever type it really is with a type switch. 01:44 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 01:44 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7w8cv by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/io/ -- io: revised Pipe implementation 01:44 -!- ivan` [~ivan@adsl-71-142-225-118.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:44 -!- ivan` [~ivan@adsl-71-142-225-118.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:44 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #go-nuts 01:45 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48 -!- triplez [~triplez@bb116-14-30-58.singnet.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 01:54 < meatmanek> so you don't have to declare that something implements an interface? 01:55 < meatmanek> you just implement all the methods the interface specifies? 01:56 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 01:57 -!- meatmanek_ [~meatmanek@192.5.109.49] has joined #go-nuts 01:58 -!- rrr [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/rrr] has joined #go-nuts 01:58 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 01:59 -!- [Pete_27] [~noname@115-64-1-61.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 02:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7wbmW by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of go/src/pkg/go/printer/ -- update printer tests to use new syntax 02:05 < meatmanek_> if anyone said anything to me before I joined with this nick, could you repeat? 02:16 < KirkMcDonald> meatmanek: That's right. A type implements an interface simply by implementing the interface. 02:19 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:29 -!- amacleod [~amacleod@c-75-69-45-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:31 -!- emelpy [~cmadd@S010600226b803196.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:39 -!- achillescoder [~sidharthj@203.110.84.68] has joined #go-nuts 02:40 < achillescoder> hi all! can somebody provide me a link or whatever to build go on mac 02:40 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@128.189.93.10] has joined #go-nuts 02:41 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@187.23.177.211] has joined #go-nuts 02:47 -!- fgb [~fgb@190.246.85.45] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:47 -!- fgb [~fgb@190.246.85.45] has joined #go-nuts 02:54 < smw> achillescoder: I think if you set the goos to darwin it will work on mac 02:54 < smw> achillescoder: all the other instructions are the same 02:58 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 03:02 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7wlKE by [Rob Pike] in go/doc/ -- ...T is now implemented 03:15 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@187.23.177.211] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:24 -!- Will_D [~Will@c-24-17-243-6.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:25 -!- emelpy [~cmadd@S010600226b803196.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: emelpy] 03:35 -!- moraes [~moraes@187.39.158.51] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 03:48 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:14 -!- ct [~ct@plutonium.ct.id.au] has quit [Changing host] 04:14 -!- ct [~ct@fsf/member/ct] has joined #go-nuts 04:15 -!- meatmanek [~meatmanek@mesingw.student.cwru.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:15 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 04:28 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 04:35 -!- tav [~tav@89.243.40.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:41 -!- tav [~tav@89.241.155.169] has joined #go-nuts 04:44 -!- shawn [~shawn@208-78-98-92.slicehost.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has quit [Quit: I'm outta heee-eere] 04:55 -!- amacleod [~amacleod@c-75-69-45-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye] 04:56 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@64.235.200.69] has joined #go-nuts 04:58 -!- gnuvince [~vince@64.235.204.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:02 -!- ni|_ [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has joined #go-nuts 05:04 -!- ni| [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:07 -!- Ortzman [~ortzinato@cpe-065-191-006-129.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:08 -!- Ortzinator [~ortzinato@unaffiliated/ortzinator] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 -!- achillescoder [~sidharthj@203.110.84.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:17 -!- achillescoder [~sidharthj@203.110.84.68] has joined #go-nuts 05:20 -!- Ortzinator [~ortzinato@unaffiliated/ortzinator] has joined #go-nuts 05:23 -!- Ortzman [~ortzinato@cpe-065-191-006-129.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@128.189.93.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:24 -!- meatmanek_ [~meatmanek@192.5.109.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54 -!- droid0011 [~g1@p4FDCA6D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:56 -!- droid001 [~g1@p4FDC9B87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:07 -!- lotrpy [~lotrpy@202.120.36.170] has joined #go-nuts 06:11 -!- Ortzman [~ortzinato@cpe-065-191-006-129.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:13 -!- achillescoder [~sidharthj@203.110.84.68] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:14 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 06:15 -!- Ortzinator [~ortzinato@unaffiliated/ortzinator] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:17 -!- robot12 [~root@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 06:19 -!- lotrpy [~lotrpy@202.120.36.170] has quit [] 06:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7wPNq by [Russ Cox] in 4 subdirs of go/ -- gc: bug242 06:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7wPND by [Charles L. 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use pointers to C types imported by cgo as method receivers in the latest hg version any more. 17:24 < rsaarelm> Is this intentional? 17:27 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.224.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:30 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:34 -!- codedread [~88b6021a@gateway/web/freenode/x-wjrrbeuupcjmmwvi] has joined #go-nuts 17:39 -!- emelpy [~cmadd@w215-042.wireless.uvic.ca] has quit [Quit: emelpy] 17:41 -!- chickamade [~chickamad@113.190.191.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42 -!- iant [~iant@2620:0:1000:1601:1dc4:aa16:2fcd:675b] has joined #go-nuts 17:42 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 17:44 -!- carllerche_ [~carllerch@99.22.229.11] has quit [Quit: carllerche_] 17:51 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 17:52 < rsaarelm> Looks like they've become invalid at the current tip commit 4c468c07d05c. 17:58 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #go-nuts 17:58 < rsaarelm> The commit doesn't say anything about disabling C types as receivers, so I filed an issue report. 17:59 -!- sjbrown_ [~sjbrown@c-69-181-182-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:00 -!- JSharpe [~jamie@5ad1d7d2.bb.sky.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:01 -!- johnfsse [~johnfsse@h177n1.opennet.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:03 -!- carllerche_ [~carllerch@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:05 -!- nf [~nf@124-171-26-179.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:05 -!- nf [~nf@124-168-130-177.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 18:06 -!- flyfish [~flyfish@pixout.appriss.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:11 < flyfish> Hello, can someone please give me an example of how to create / initialize a StringVector? 18:12 < skelterjohn> a StringVector is just a typed []string 18:13 < skelterjohn> so maybe 18:13 < skelterjohn> var sv StringVector = []string{} 18:13 < LuitvD> a := new(StringVector) 18:13 < LuitvD> lol 18:14 < flyfish> oh, i see 18:14 < flyfish> trying it out now 18:20 -!- codedread [~88b6021a@gateway/web/freenode/x-wjrrbeuupcjmmwvi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20 -!- callidus [~quassel@cpc2-newc1-0-0-cust1524.gate.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:22 < flyfish> great, all working now, ty 18:24 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-61-164.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:24 < adu> wtf 18:25 < adu> what's this I hear about init() breaking the whole idea of identifiers meaning exactly one thing at a time? 18:25 < skelterjohn> context? 18:26 < adu> http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Program_execution 18:26 < skelterjohn> oh i misparsed your sentence 18:27 < skelterjohn> i thought it was breaking an identifier's meaning, exactly one thing at a time 18:27 < adu> it is 18:27 < adu> init() is not a function in the traditional sense 18:27 < skelterjohn> the "exactly one thing at a time" part was what confused me 18:27 -!- aho [~nya@e179054250.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION] 18:27 < adu> so why would it use function syntax? 18:28 < adu> x = 0 18:28 < adu> x = 1 18:28 < adu> at one point in time x is 0, at another point in time x is 1 18:28 < adu> but if "x" is replaced with init(), then it is both 0 and 1 18:28 < adu> according to the go spec 18:28 < adu> that is silly 18:28 < skelterjohn> what i meant was i thought you were saying, "one by one, init is breaking identifier's meaning" 18:29 < adu> oh, no that's not what I meant 18:29 < skelterjohn> right 18:29 < skelterjohn> it was a silly misparsing 18:29 < adu> init() is an abomination 18:29 < skelterjohn> your complaint is about the ability to have multiple init()s? 18:29 < adu> yes 18:30 < skelterjohn> i don't see how that could get in my way, so i don't think i could get worked up about that 18:30 < adu> what about function lookups? 18:31 < adu> like ctags/etags 18:31 < adu> it would have to say init() is on line {33, 92, 151} 18:31 < skelterjohn> you're not allowed to call init 18:31 < adu> or it would have to say if funcName != init, then add to funclist 18:31 < adu> either way, it requires special processing 18:32 < skelterjohn> or reference it from code 18:32 -!- r2p2 [~billy@v32671.1blu.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:32 < adu> right, but what if you want to write an IDE that helps you find functions in code 18:32 < skelterjohn> i don't see a good reason to have more than one init, so i'm more or less on your side 18:33 < skelterjohn> just a whole lot less emphatic about it :) 18:33 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:33 < adu> if it doesn't act anything like a function, then it shouldn't use function syntax, it should be a keyword, like "init {...}" not "func init() {...}" 18:33 < skelterjohn> right, you've made that clear 18:33 < skelterjohn> maybe make a ML opst about it? 18:33 < adu> what's that? 18:33 < skelterjohn> perhaps one of the designers could let you in on their thought process 18:33 < skelterjohn> mailing list 18:33 < adu> oh 18:33 < skelterjohn> http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts 18:33 < adu> good idea 18:34 < skelterjohn> it's possible that, since there are only a handful of designers, some things get into the language that aren't super consistent 18:34 < skelterjohn> on the other hand, they might have something deeper in mind 18:37 -!- KillerX [~anant@gentoo/developer/KillerX] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:41 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-61-164.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 18:45 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 18:48 -!- LuitvD [~luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:51 -!- rthc [~rthc@rrcs-67-52-50-170.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:54 -!- idea_squirrel [~ct2rips@77-22-21-247-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: what would a pirate do?] 18:55 -!- LuitvD [~luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has joined #go-nuts 18:55 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.225.62] has joined #go-nuts 19:02 -!- alkavan 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#go-nuts 20:44 -!- ikke [~ikkibr@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [] 20:45 -!- ericvh [~ericvh@32.97.110.63] has quit [Quit: ericvh] 20:45 < KirkMcDonald> korboz: Not according to the grammar in the spec. 20:45 <+iant> korboz: you can write switch x := val; x { ... } 20:45 <+iant> like with an if statement 20:45 -!- franksalim [~frank@adsl-75-61-86-190.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:45 < korboz> i see 20:46 < korboz> i was asking because in http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Switch_statements, they use the construct i := x.(type) { 20:46 < KirkMcDonald> That's a type switch. 20:46 < korboz> switch i := x.(type) {...}, sorry 20:46 < KirkMcDonald> Which is different from other kinds of switches. 20:47 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 20:51 < korboz> any reason why this shouldn't work for the other kinds of switches? 20:53 < KirkMcDonald> Type switches assign a particular meaning to that form. 20:55 -!- ugo123 [~chatzilla@host12-40-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 20:56 < LuitvD> is the type switch new, or have I just been ignoring it? 20:56 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 20:57 < dagle> LuitvD: You mean switch i := x.(type) ? 20:57 < LuitvD> yeah 20:57 < dagle> No. 20:57 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:57 * LuitvD should really read the full docs sometime soon... 20:57 -!- kashia_ [~Kashia@port-92-200-127-37.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:57 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:58 < dagle> LuitvD: Look at reflect package. 20:58 -!- Kashia [~Kashia@port-92-200-64-128.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:01 -!- oal [~olav@5.79-160-122.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- homiziado [~ernestofr@78.130.76.139.rev.optimus.pt] has joined 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