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06:41 <+kaib> sigh.  the Itab struct in the runtime has a field named bad.
sadly the naming is appropriate
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06:53 <+kaib> iant: ping
06:54 <+iant> kaib: pong
06:54 <+kaib> iant: is there an implicit assumption that malloc returns
cleared memory?
06:54 <+iant> in general or in Go?
06:54 <+iant> in Go it returns cleared memory
06:54 <+iant> in general it does not
06:54 <+iant> unless I am wrong
06:55 < anticw> iant: the vdso isn't always at a fixed address
06:55 <+kaib> iant: hmm.  this would be the malloc called by the c runtime
06:55 < anticw> iant: it can vary
06:55 <+iant> the malloc called by the C runtime does not in general clear
memory
06:55 <+kaib> iant: i agree that memory allocation in Go return cleared
memory
06:55 <+iant> anticw: if the VDSO moves around, statically linked binaries
would break
06:55 <+kaib> iant: that's what i suspected.  i think i found a latent bug
that assumed the memory would be cleared.
06:55 <+iant> anticw: so I don't see how it can move
06:56 <+kaib> iant: my malloc doesn't clear memory and there is actually
garbage there, hence the badness
06:57 <+iant> that can certainly happen with glibc as well, when malloc
returns memory which was previously passed to free
06:57 < sstangl> calloc() clears memory.
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07:01 <+kaib> iant: i think the problem is that we never free any memory.
07:02 <+iant> point
07:02 <+kaib> iant: my target has no virtual memory and i keep doing a reset
by simply set $pc = 0, so the memory has plenty of cruft.
07:03 <+iant> yeah
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07:08 <+kaib> sstangl: the issue isn't so much that we couldn't clear it,
just what the actual assumption is.  always calling calloc would be a potential
performance hit for the low level code
07:09 < anticw> iant: ok, i think i must have it wrong ...  i was sure it
could move, but looking at the code i don't see how that's possible
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07:09 <+iant> I think it could move when linking dynamically, because ld.so
can look it up in the kernel and adjust the PLT, but I don't think it can move
when linking statically
07:10 < anticw> well, i can't find the aux vector for it ...  thought i
thought there was one
07:10 < anticw> long story short, i worked with someone who did a custom
debugger and this was something we had to fix
07:11 < anticw> so even static binaries could find it, since it's a vector
in that case
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07:11 <+iant> true, that approach would work if the static binaries loaded
the value from a global variable, but currently they do not
07:11 < anticw> iant: if you weren't you i might question that :-)
07:11 <+iant> oh, I am often wrong....
07:12 < anticw> ok, tis is bugging me ...  im like 99% sure it's an AT
vector, i even has someone confirm that ...  but i really can't see it
07:12 < anticw> btw ...  does the go runtime have access to those?
07:12 < anticw> i did a quick grep ...  prob not well
07:12 <+iant> not directly, but it could get them if it really had to
07:12 <+iant> e.g., /proc/self/auxv
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07:13 < anticw> you can get them from the stack i think when you're started
up
07:13 <+iant> of course, one might want to just use the syscall in that case
07:13 <+iant> yes, but Go binaries are actually run by ld.so, and it snarfs
the auxv entries
07:13 < anticw> all this work in the back of my brain is mips based, i need
to check the details
07:13 < anticw> yeah, you said they were run by ld.so ...  i must admit i
dont grok that
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07:14 <+iant> run "readelf -l" on a 6.out file, you will see that it has a
PT_INTERP segment
07:14 < anticw> oh ...  hmm
07:14 < anticw> strace doesn't see that ....  i thought it would?
07:15 < anticw> iant: so ld.so is used to load the binary itself then?
07:15 <+iant> yes
07:15 < anticw> ignorant question...  but why?
07:15 < anticw> im sure im missing some detail that makes that obvious
07:15 <+iant> to make cgo work
07:16 < anticw> oh, ok ...  for that i can see yeah
07:16 < anticw> i wondered how cgo worked ...  i meant to look at the build
foo for it
07:17 < anticw> what groks LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 then?  not ld.so ?
07:17 <+iant> that is handled by ld.so, yes
07:17 < anticw> something using cgo would show something likely then?
07:18 <+iant> I would expect so, yes
07:18 <+iant> haven't tried, though
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07:19 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7Vc75 by [Evan Shaw] in go/src/pkg/testing/ --
testing: Fix comment typo
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07:24 < anticw> iant: ok, vsyscall seems fixed at -10ull<<20 ...  vdso
looks to move
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10:40 < napsy> Hello.  Is there a fgetc()-like function for go?
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10:46 < fgb> see bufio
10:46 < napsy> ok
10:46 < fgb> you have ReadByte or if you're dealing with utf-8 ReadRune()
10:47 < napsy> so I have to create a reader from my file object?
10:47 < anticw> you can read from a file object directly
10:48 < napsy> ok
10:50 < fgb> yep, but you probably want buffered io, when reading sequences
of single bytes
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10:53 < napsy> hm I'm haveing problem creating the reader
10:53 < napsy> var r bufio.Reader = new(bufio.Reader(myfile))
10:53 < napsy> is this correct?
10:55 < anticw> r := bufio.NewReader(myfile)
10:55 < napsy> it works
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11:03 < napsy> huh
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11:04 < napsy> in a for loop, how can I select which returned variable to
use for the condition ...  e.g.  for (c, err := r.ReadByte()) == nil {...
11:05 < napsy> here I want to use err for the condition
11:05 < bortzmeyer> for (c, err := r.ReadByte(); err == nil ; ...  ?
11:06 < chickamade> anyone have a spare Wave invite?
11:06 < napsy> bortzmeyer: it doesn't work
11:07 < anticw> it wont work
11:08 < bortzmeyer> chickamade: what email?  (I have invites)
11:08 < anticw> that readbyte only get evaluated onece
11:08 < napsy> exactly
11:08 < chickamade> bortzmeyer: send you a /msg
11:09 < anticw> napsy: for cond { ....  }
11:10 < napsy> ok
11:10 < napsy> can't I evaluate the ch and err in the for condition?
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to make it split on any whitespace?  or, failing that, what is the literal syntax
for a byteslice with a space in it?  []byte { ' ' } doesn't seem to do it
13:13 < vdrab> nevermind, I found strings.Fields
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15:20 < jankoprowski> Hi :)
15:21 < jA_cOp> hi
15:23 < jankoprowski> I stucked with Go on my MA
15:23 < jankoprowski> Go isn't recognize by LaTeX listing package
15:23 < jankoprowski> :D
15:24 < jankoprowski> What is obvious :P
15:24 < jankoprowski> Anyone heard about any Tex file for the Go Lang :P
15:24 < jankoprowski> If this will be needed I create one in free time
15:27 < JBeshir> Hmm, I've been wondering.
15:27 < JBeshir> Because it doesn't seem to have come up on the list.
15:28 < JBeshir> Is there any plan to implement dynamic linking support, or
to otherwise provide a mechanism that allows for reloadable-while-running modules?
15:30 < jankoprowski> Is there any list of keywords?
15:30 < jankoprowski> in one place for go ?
15:32 < jA_cOp> You can look at the other highlighter markups
15:34 < jA_cOp> https://go.googlecode.com/hg/misc/
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15:45 < jankoprowski> jA_cOp: greate link!
15:45 < jA_cOp> :)
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15:45 < jankoprowski> is go casesensitive?
15:45 < jA_cOp> Yes
15:46 < jA_cOp> More so than you'd usually expect, too
15:46 < jankoprowski> Strings may be between "" or ``
15:46 < jA_cOp> The capitalization of struct members defines whether or not
it's public or private
15:46 < jankoprowski> ' is for characters?  Right?
15:47 < jA_cOp> Yeah
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16:39 < jankoprowski> Ok :] I patched LaTeX with success :D
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16:58 < jankoprowski> Is this make file is correct in Go meaning?
http://wklej.to/dO3L
16:59 < KirkMcDonald> jankoprowski: Why not just include Make.cmd?
16:59 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: I don't know :P
16:59 < jankoprowski> w8 :)
16:59 < jankoprowski> I will check
17:00 < KirkMcDonald> jankoprowski: See src/cmd/cgo/Makefile for an example.
17:01 < jankoprowski> Ok I red that I should see at this file
17:01 < jankoprowski> But this file is still too hard to undestand for me.
17:02 < jankoprowski> So I wrote my own which works and which I undestand
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17:04 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: it is give me "make: *** No rule to make
target `/home/johny/Go/Make.cmd'.  Stop."
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17:05 < KirkMcDonald> jankoprowski: You actually need to include
$(GOROOT)/src/Make.$(GOARCH) and include $(GOROOT)/src/Make.cmd
17:05 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: Look :) http://wklej.to/UA06
17:05 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: I made this.
17:06 < KirkMcDonald> jankoprowski: That Makefile can use ../..  because
it's actually inside the Go source tree.
17:06 < KirkMcDonald> You're missing the /src/ part of that path.
17:06 < jankoprowski> My module is outside :)
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17:07 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: adding /src/ works :]
17:07 < jankoprowski> KirkMcDonald: Thank You very much!
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17:33 < jankoprowski> Is there any extreme simple example of code which
testing simple function?
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17:36 <+iant> jankoprowski: if you are looking for testing code, look for
the *_test.go files in src/pkg; I don't know about extremely simple, but most of
them are not too complicated
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17:36 < jankoprowski> I just found all_test.go in math :]
17:36 < jankoprowski> Now I understand idea :]
17:41 < jankoprowski> What I should do when I got "make: *** No rule to make
target `testpackage-clean'.  Stop." message after running gotest?
17:43 < jankoprowski> And what is a "gomake" I don't see it on this list
http://golang.org/cmd/
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17:54 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7X9by by [Andrew Gerrand] in 6 subdirs of
go/src/ -- *l/*c: add -V flag to display version number
17:55 < jankoprowski> gotest return for me make: *** No rule to make target
`testpackage-clean'.  Stop.
17:55 < jankoprowski> :/
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18:05 < jankoprowski> I was using make.cmd instead make.pkg
18:10 < gzmask> what's the difference
18:15 < jankoprowski> gzmask: in make.cmd gotest doesn't work
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18:25 < jankoprowski> Can I import in Go from another file in this same
directory?
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18:37 < jankoprowski> How import functions from files in the same directory?
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18:41 < gzmask> I don't know, have you try using the same package name?
18:47 < jankoprowski> I have file "calc.go"
18:47 < jankoprowski> with package main
18:47 < jankoprowski> and add.go with package name operations
18:47 < jankoprowski> I try import "operations"
18:49 < jankoprowski> And I get "fatal error: can't find import: operations"
18:51 < jankoprowski> anyone could help me or give an example?
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18:52 < mbana> can one implement a gc in go?
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19:05 < jankoprowski> I was use everywhere this same package name
19:05 < jankoprowski> without any imports and this wok
19:05 < jankoprowski> *work
19:05 < jankoprowski> but example of testing from math module
19:06 < jankoprowski> is mislead
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19:12 <+iant> mbana: Go is itself garbage collected
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19:24 < skelterjohn> iant: it would be neat if a GC could be implemented in
go, and swapped into place
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19:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7XAhH by [Dean Prichard] in go/include/ -- Fix
*l/*c -V flag segfault
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21:23 <+iant> I never fully realized that a type with no name and which is
not an interface type can have methods
21:23 <+iant> now I have to fix gccgo
21:24 < skelterjohn> how does that work?
21:24 < skelterjohn> i understand how to pass an anonymous struct around on
the fly, sorta...
21:24 < skelterjohn> maybe
21:24 <+iant> if you have a struct with an anonymous field, the struct can
inherit methods from the field
21:25 <+iant> there is an example in pkg/net/hosts.go
21:25 <+iant> which is how I discovered it
21:25 <+iant> in gccgo
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21:42 < skelterjohn> gotcha
21:45 < smw> skelterjohn: who/what did you get?
21:45 < skelterjohn> what iant just explained
21:45 < skelterjohn> how to have an unnamed type with an associated method
21:46 < smw> skelterjohn: I still don't get it
21:46 < smw> lol
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22:43 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7Y8jd by [Russ Cox] in 8 subdirs of go/ --
runtime: instrument malloc + garbage collector.
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23:44 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7Yk5g by [Ian Lance Taylor] in
go/test/fixedbugs/ -- Struct field ambiguity test.
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