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03:18 < Scotopik> Hi, I have an installation problem.  Can anyone give me a
hand?
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03:21 < Scotopik> For some reason, fetching the repository works fine
03:21 < Scotopik> but I cd $GOROOT/src and then make all
03:21 < Scotopik> I get make: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
03:22 < Scotopik> it looks like I don't have a make file in the src
directory
03:22 < Scotopik> any ideas?
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03:23 < Scotopik> p.s.  I'm following this:
http://golang.org/doc/install.html
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03:24 < Scotopik> Looks like nobody is here
03:24 < Scotopik> :(
03:25 < uriel> Scotopik: you are not in the right dir
03:25 < uriel> echo $GOROOT
03:25 < uriel> do you know what an environment variable is and how they
work?
03:29 < Scotopik> yes
03:29 < Scotopik> hi
03:29 < sladegen> not "make all" but "./all.bash"
03:29 < Scotopik> it's set to ~/go/src
03:29 < Scotopik> GOARCH=386
03:29 < Scotopik> GOBIN=/Users/Shane/bin
03:29 < Scotopik> GOOS=darwin
03:29 < Scotopik> GOROOT=/Users/Shane/go
03:30 * sladegen hits Scotopik with a trout.
03:31 < Scotopik> I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean
03:31 < Scotopik> "not "make all" but "./all.bash"" ?
03:32 < Scotopik> cd $GCROOT/src
03:32 < sladegen> run "./all.bash" command inside src
03:32 < sladegen> not make...
03:33 < Scotopik> ah, off it goes :)
03:33 < Scotopik> actually
03:33 < Scotopik> I think I see the issue
03:34 < Scotopik> I was actually using the local help document server from
an older version
03:34 < Scotopik> which said to make all
03:34 < Scotopik> but now I see on the actual golang link it is ./all.bash
03:34 < Scotopik> doh
03:34 < Scotopik> user error
03:35 < Scotopik> thanks sladegen :)
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03:36 < sladegen> np
03:36 < Scotopik> Ah success:
03:36 < Scotopik> "--- cd ../test
03:36 < Scotopik> 0 known bugs; 0 unexpected bugs
03:36 < Scotopik> "
03:36 < Scotopik> :D
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06:48 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8tU1c by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/src/pkg/fmt/
-- Fix printing of named floating point types.
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07:05 < anticw> iant: it's not clear how that change avoid recursion
07:07 < anticw> i see the depth change on printFields ...  but there are
also changes on case switch to use reflect.NewValue.(type) now
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10:36 < nickjohnson> The FAQ claims Protocol Buffers are supported - where?
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11:56 < Kor7> if there is any way to make it shorter?
11:56 < Kor7> func GetBytes(t interface{}) []byte {
11:56 < Kor7> type ptr struct {
11:56 < Kor7> p unsafe.Pointer
11:56 < Kor7> }
11:56 < Kor7> _,p := unsafe.Reflect(t)
11:56 < Kor7> h := (*ptr)(p).p
11:56 < Kor7> return &*(*[unsafe.Sizeof(t)]byte)(h)
11:56 < Kor7> }
11:57 < Kor7> ops
11:57 < Kor7> this one
11:57 < Kor7> func GetBytes(t interface{}) []byte {
11:57 < Kor7> type ptr struct {
11:57 < Kor7> p unsafe.Pointer
11:57 < Kor7> }
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11:57 < Kor7> h := (*ptr)(p).p
11:57 < Kor7> return (*[unsafe.Sizeof(t)]byte)(h)
11:57 < Kor7> }
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14:22 < Bennit> hello
14:22 < Bennit> I've installed go according to
http://golang.org/doc/install.html
14:23 < Bennit> however, the compile binairies are not found
14:23 < Bennit> (the test file outputs 0 known bugs; 0 unexpected bugs)
14:25 < Bennit> where should the compile & link binaries normally go when
you execute the all.bash script?
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14:35 < Bennit> aha nvm :) found em
14:36 < Bennit> tought my GOBIN env var was where binaries created by 6g
file.go were going :p
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15:22 < Bennit> any advised tutorials / guides / infopages on
metaprogramming in Go?
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15:24 < smw> Bennit: What do you want to do in go?
15:26 < Bennit> just general analysation of the metaprogramming capabilities
:)à
15:26 < Bennit> map some examples of other languages to their equivalences
in Go
15:28 < smw> Bennit: I had to look it up on google to even know what
metaprogramming is...  but you should look at the reflect package
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15:28 < smw> http://golang.org/pkg/reflect/
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15:30 < Bennit> thanks :)à
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15:30 < smw> Bennit: also, if you want a very cool example of reflect in
action, check out the xml library http://golang.org/pkg/xml
15:31 < rsaarelm> Metaprogramming often involves programmatically creating
new program structures.  Reflect package can't really do that.
15:31 < Bennit> indeed, taking a quicksnap on the functions in the reflect
package doesn't seem to be what I was hoping for :)
15:31 < Bennit> i'll take a look at your example tough :)
15:33 < rsaarelm> The xml thing inspects existing objects in the system with
reflect and figures out an XML structure which matches the object.
15:33 < smw> Bennit: the example is xml.Unmarshal().
15:34 < rsaarelm> But it can't take an XML file and create a corresponding
Go type that hasn't been otherwise written in the program's Go source code, which
is one example I'd expect a metaprogramming system to do.  Go can't do that.
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15:36 < smw> maybe eval is closer to metaprogramming?  (reading wikipedia)
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15:38 < rsaarelm> Eval would allow metaprogramming, yes.
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15:39 < Bennit> how do you google decently on Go? :p most results on
nomatter what are blogs about either "the new programming language GO has been
released" or just about the concept (unrelated to go)
15:39 < Bennit> possibly there simply aren't many records yet about those
concepts :p
15:39 < rsaarelm> Also, standardised bytecode platform and dynamic loading,
for example.  In Java or C#, if you were smart enough you could read an arbitrary
XML file, generate a byte code for a type with the corresponding structure and
then load that at runtime.
15:40 < rsaarelm> Bennit: There's some discussion at the golang-nuts mailing
list.
15:40 < smw> Bennit: I gave up on googling go.  I search the mailinglist,
read the website, or ask on the irc
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15:41 < rsaarelm> Googling "golang" instead of "go" may also help.
15:41 < Bennit> atm i'm using this: http://go-lang.cat-v.org/go-search
15:41 < Bennit> which also seems to search the mailing lists
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15:59 < Bennit> it's a bit weird that they compare themselves to python &
c++ while python has many more metaprogramming capabilties
15:59 < Bennit> (on first sight)
15:59 * Bennit googles on..
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18:24 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8weCZ by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ -- gc:
test & fix handling of very long string constants
18:24 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8weDU by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/go/printer/ -- Don't print ()'s around a range clause's expression.
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19:19 < leonod> Hi, question: Which is the easiest way to display charts
from go?
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19:20 < gzmask> call IMagick?  just a guess, never come across that problem
19:24 < gzmask> but if I am you, I'd create a mini web app that make use of
the Canvas in HTML5 using Go
19:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wvjb by [Robert Griesemer] in 4 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- remove assumption that all files belonging to a package are in the
same directory:
19:26 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wvju by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of
go/ -- godoc support for directories outside $GOROOT
19:26 < gzmask> what is this?  Git or SVN log?
19:28 < leonod> gzmask: Thanks, I had a look at IMagick, seems a bit fuzzy
(lack of better word) ..  Canvas I'll have a look
19:28 < gzmask> definitely try Canvas.  it's a dream to use for graphic
stuff.https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Canvas
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19:31 < leonod> Actually that was the site I got from google :)
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19:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wATT by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- A+C: Giles Lean
(individual CLA)
19:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wAUv by [Giles Lean] in go/src/cmd/cc/ -- cc:
use "cpp" anywhere in path, not "/bin/cpp"
19:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wAVW by [Giles Lean] in go/src/pkg/syscall/
-- syscall: make signature of Umask on OS X, FreeBSD match Linux.
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19:56 < leonod> gzmask: Seems nice.  Now I have to figure out how to do go
<-> html
19:56 < gzmask> httpd package
19:57 < gzmask> so basically it's a Go program that outputs html and
javascript code
19:58 < gzmask> well, later this year it might become Go program that
outputs html and native client Go code, who knows ;)
19:58 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wH16 by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/cmd/godoc/ -- godoc: fix initialization issue
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19:59 < leonod> httpd doesn't seem to be part of the list :
http://golang.org/pkg/
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20:00 < gzmask> my bad, http actually : http://golang.org/pkg/http/
20:02 < leonod> I thought you meant that, but I was curious if there was
another inofficial package
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20:06 < no_mind> I am trying to understand the interfaces.  When should one
create an interface in go ?
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20:10 < leonod> If a type satisfies an interface it allows for methods to
operate on the type without knowing the details of it.
20:10 < gzmask> kinda like duck-typing
20:12 < leonod> A good example is :
http://golang.org/doc/go_tutorial.html#tmp_265
20:12 < leonod> Check the sort section
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20:15 < leonod> Are there any dynamic types in go like the std vector?
20:16 < leonod> stl*
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20:17 < TMKCodes> Hey what kind of standard library go has?
20:20 < divoxx> TMKCodes: http://golang.org/pkg/
20:20 < divoxx> that's the standard lib
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20:22 < FFForever> Hi
20:22 < FFForever> anyone up for a challenge?
20:23 < TMKCodes> divoxx: Go is almost as fast as c++, so how would be 3d
development with Go?
20:23 < FFForever> anyone want to convert this python into go?,
http://pastie.org/827539 it is for a challenge
20:24 < gzmask> now Go is not as fast as C++
20:24 < divoxx> TMKCodes: i don't have the answer for that, but I believe it
would have a similar performance
20:24 < divoxx> I'm new to Go, and from what I see it's still under heavy
development
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20:24 < divoxx> so it might be not as stable
20:25 < TMKCodes> yeah i do realize that Go is new language
20:25 < gzmask> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/compare.php?lang=go
20:26 < gzmask> go is about 3 times slower than C
20:26 < divoxx> Yeah it is new, but what I'm saying is that libraries and
stuff could change dramatically...  I'm not sure how stable things are
20:26 < leonod> I think the google presentation mentioned a number of 20%
slower
20:26 < divoxx> probably somebody else could give a more accurate statement
about that
20:27 < skelterjohn> divoxx: that link that gzmask pasted, for example
20:27 < divoxx> skelterjohn: the link says about performance
20:28 < divoxx> I'm talking about API stability
20:28 < skelterjohn> my mistake
20:28 < divoxx> np :)
20:28 < skelterjohn> assumed you were referring to the previous message
20:28 < skelterjohn> i think the libraries have some big changes in the
future
20:29 < skelterjohn> if templating or exceptions get added to the language,
presumably the libraries would be changed to match
20:29 < divoxx> make sense
20:29 < divoxx> I also saw something about generics being added too
20:29 < skelterjohn> templating/generics
20:29 < divoxx> oh ok
20:29 < divoxx> I'm not familiar w/ c++ to know they are similars :)
20:31 < divoxx> I wonder how necessary it is though...  I mean, isn't the
dynamic interface enough?
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20:33 < TMKCodes> Go is quite slow :/
20:34 < gzmask> For now
20:34 < gzmask> It'll improve
20:34 < TMKCodes> true
20:34 < gzmask> coz it's binary code in the end
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20:35 < smw> gzmask: python is also binary code in the end.
20:35 < gzmask> rly?  like javascript V8 kinda JIT binary code or like
compiled C binary code?
20:36 < divoxx> I thought python compiled to bytecode
20:36 < divoxx> there are some projects that compiles to C and then to
binary but not the off
20:36 < divoxx> *official distr
20:36 < divoxx> afaik
20:36 < smw> I mean that everything EVENTUALLY becomes binary to run
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20:37 < divoxx> smw: it does, but in runtime :)
20:37 < smw> nm
20:37 < divoxx> hehe
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20:37 < gzmask> right...  I meant Go compiled to binary code compares to
python/ruby
20:37 < smw> my guess is that it will take time to improve.  I am sure C was
not as fast as it is now when it was first created
20:38 < divoxx> oh, definitely.  Doesn't make sense to fine optimize stuff
if the changes are they are going to change in the near future
20:39 < divoxx> I'm pretty sure there will be a performance boost after the
language/api aspects are more stable
20:39 < TMKCodes> surely there will be.
20:40 < TMKCodes> after that they can use the time on performance
20:41 < divoxx> by the way, is there a rodmap defined?
20:41 < divoxx> *roadmap
20:41 < gzmask> for now I think the major quest of the google folks is to
make Go likable to programers like us
20:41 < smw> yep
20:42 < TMKCodes> i
20:42 < TMKCodes> i'm just interested on Go because i love google's systems
and it's quite new language
20:42 < TMKCodes> but not sure how well it can do.
20:42 < bortzmeyer> How to get only the IP address from a net.Addr?  The
only solution I see is to String() it then to parse it with ResolveTCPAddr
20:42 < gzmask> to make Go popular, it needs to promise that it'll give us
nice jobs, for example, so they announced native client and chrome OS
20:43 < TMKCodes> gzmask: that's true
20:43 < divoxx> gzmask: Right, but I think that they are more focused on
creating a community right now
20:43 < divoxx> to attract open source people that will build good stuff on
it
20:43 < divoxx> libraries, frameworks, etc
20:44 < divoxx> create a ecosystem so that people will use it for real
20:44 < gzmask> yup, check github.com out, there are already some beginning
works going on from open source folks
20:44 < divoxx> yeap, following a lot of things there :)
20:45 < smw> I am still making pretty stupid stuff with go.  I was on a 5
hour train ride and could not find a better use of my time then to make a
countdown timer...
20:45 < divoxx> I started working on a database adapter for postgresql
following the standard interface people started discussing some time ago on the
mail list
20:45 < smw> I wanted to make a nice window to put it in.  But I took one
look at xgb and said hell no
20:45 < divoxx> also a small web framework
20:45 < divoxx> but I abandoned both because of time
20:45 < gzmask> smw, you can go through every feature of Go in 3 days.
check the doc folder inside $GOROOT
20:45 < divoxx> hopefully I'll get back working on it soonish
20:46 < gzmask> divoxx: my daytime job is ruby and javascript.  keep messing
my mind every time I go back to play Go
20:47 < divoxx> I do ruby too
20:47 < divoxx> a lot
20:47 < TMKCodes> database adapter for Postgresql would be nice.
20:47 < gzmask> must be rails then, divoxx?
20:47 < divoxx> to be honest what most attracted in Go is the dynamic
interface thing which is kinda of "static" dynamic typing
20:47 < divoxx> which is awesome
20:48 < divoxx> gzmask: rails too but not just it
20:48 < gzmask> for me it's the GOROUTINE
20:48 < gzmask> divoxx: I don't really like rails.  I use ruby for shell
scripting :P
20:48 < divoxx> let me rephrase: what first attracted me was the interface
thign
20:48 < divoxx> goroutines and a lof of things also got me :)
20:49 < divoxx> gzmask: yeah well I did ruby for 4 years before rails even
exist
20:49 < smw> gzmask: what do you mean?  All the libraries or go syntax?  I
have been playing with it enough to know most of the syntax
20:49 < divoxx> and I do a lot of C/Ruby too
20:49 < divoxx> I do rails too, i like it
20:49 < divoxx> but I'm not a "Rails (only) developer" lol
20:49 < gzmask> divoxx: at first rails give good design patterns.  after a
while, it gets into the way too much + the "Performance"
20:50 < divoxx> agreed
20:50 < divoxx> I'm really liking rails 3 so far though
20:50 < gzmask> haven't played with that yet.  what's so cool about it?
20:50 < divoxx> it's much much more flexible
20:50 < divoxx> a more modular API
20:50 < divoxx> pluggable
20:51 < divoxx> so you can choose and use what you want
20:51 < divoxx> lots of improvements
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20:52 < divoxx> http://guides.rails.info/3_0_release_notes.html
20:52 < gzmask> yea rails now doesn't have nice plugin system.  Django folks
always told me it's better than rails
20:53 < divoxx> it does now
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20:57 < gzmask> Looks nice divoxx.  One thing though, RESTful
20:58 < divoxx> what about it?
20:58 < gzmask> it looks like the internet is moving ahead without RESTful .
have you check out websocket?
20:58 < divoxx> websocket and rest are different things man
20:58 < divoxx> HTTP is RESTful
20:59 < gzmask> and HTTP is what makes internet slow, google agree with that
too
20:59 < TMKCodes> i agree too
21:00 < gzmask> Google even make an experiment protocol to replace HTTP...
what's its name...
21:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8wXcd by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/cmd/godoc/ -- godoc: initialize vars depending on flags after parsing the
flags.
21:01 < gzmask> it's spdy
21:01 < divoxx> gzmask: ok, but I don't see that happening so soon that
frameworks would use it as a base :)
21:01 < divoxx> we live in a http web
21:01 < TMKCodes> speedy xD
21:01 < gzmask> yes.  but now Go have WebSocket built-in
21:02 < gzmask> and that is another reason I am learning Go :>
21:04 < gzmask> once Chrome win the browser war(not likely, long live IE6),
Go is going to be a standard language for web developers
21:06 < Eridius> Chrome won't "win" - there will always be healthy
competition.  But WebKit has pretty much won already
21:06 < TMKCodes> i'm thinking on learning Go, because those guys who built
it are thinking on the development speed
21:07 < TMKCodes> gzmask you can do web developement with Go too?
21:07 < gzmask> Call me Google Fanboy, but once googol fulfill native client
and Web3D, it will win
21:08 < TMKCodes> ah well, not moving from my lovely PHP :P
21:08 < TMKCodes> well not so soon.
21:08 < gzmask> TMKCodes, not now.  but Google promised lots things that is
related the web development in Go
21:09 < uriel> TMKCodes: go is quite slow?  uhu?  based on what?  other than
the garbage collector Go is quite damned fast for such a young language
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21:11 < uriel> 21:09 < uriel> TMKCodes: go is quite slow?  uhu?  based
on what?  other than the garbage collector Go is quite damned fast for
21:11 < uriel> such a young language
21:11 < uriel> re web dev: golang.org runs on Go, as do a few other sites
21:11 < divoxx> well you can create some web services using the http pkg
21:11 < uriel> and somebody was asking for postgresql access?
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings
21:11 < TMKCodes> Uriel, sorry i'm just used to C speeds so 20% more to it
is much to me.  :)
21:12 < uriel> TMKCodes: what about you write the code, then benchmark it,
profile it, and then make claims
21:12 < uriel> you just said you use php, ugh
21:12 < TMKCodes> i do use php for web developement.
21:13 < gzmask> uriel:
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/compare.php?lang=go I know it's not
slow....
21:13 < uriel> and really, most of the performance is related to how you
design your programs, and how bloated they are, something like FireFox will be
incredibly slow in any language
21:13 < TMKCodes> uriel, i do know that.
21:14 < smw> can someone help me understand what NaCl is?  I keep hearing
about it, but I have no idea what it is
21:14 < uriel> gzmask: yes, I have seen that, and as russ pointed out in the
mailing list, most of the performance hit seen there is due to know library issues
which are to be expected until more mature versions of those libraries come up
21:14 < uriel> smw: it is a way to run native x86 code inside a sandbox
21:14 < gzmask> smw: short for native client
21:15 < smw> gzmask: I know what thanks uriel :-)
21:15 < smw> oops
21:15 < smw> lol
21:15 < uriel> heh
21:15 < smw> thanks uriel, and I know what it is short for
21:15 < sladegen> saltbox
21:16 < smw> am I the only one who does not like the idea of websites
running code locally?
21:16 * sladegen thought it was nuclear wastes that were often stored in all salt
mines...
21:16 < sladegen> s/all/old/
21:16 < smw> also, would you need it compiled for all types of processors?
21:16 < gzmask> smw: you don't like javascript?
21:16 < uriel> smw: you are not the only one
21:16 < smw> gzmask: well...  not so much
21:16 < uriel> smw: but I guess google figured that is the only way to make
Wave usable
21:17 < smw> wave uses it?  then how come I can use wave in firefox?
21:17 < uriel> js is bad, embeding x86 binaries on web pages would be worse
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21:17 < gzmask> without letting "websites running code locally", there is no
way ppl will try your application if they don't trust you enough
21:17 < smw> uriel +1
21:17 < uriel> smw: wave doesn't use it, but I'm guessing *if* it used it
Wave might have a chance of having acceptable performance on a quad core
21:18 < smw> ok
21:18 < gzmask> that means, if you are a small company, your application
won't sell at all
21:18 < uriel> the point of NaCL is that you are supposed to trust that code
can't get out of the sandbox
21:18 < uriel> but to me it is not so much a matter of trust as a matter of
functionality, I don't want web pages doing random crap, Flash is bad enough as it
is
21:18 < gzmask> uriel: yes, exactly and this makes the internet free again
21:18 < uriel> anyway, this is offtopic, sorry
21:19 < smw> uriel: what flash.  I do not see any flash (flashblock)
21:19 < gzmask> uriel: flash is doing random crap yes.  Javascript with DOM
is not random crap.  it's still a web page, nicely moving web page
21:20 < uriel> smw:
http://venomousporridge.com/post/389785000/a-conversation-i-have-every-month-or-so
21:20 < uriel> gzmask: er, JS with DOM is still totally random fucking
things up (eg., links are not links anymore and don't do what links are supposed
to do when you middle click them, etc)
21:20 < uriel> but again, this is offtopic
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21:21 < smw> uriel: lmao.  and who cares if it is offtopic?  it is still
programming/computers
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21:21 < smw> uriel: I keep my computer muted for that reason.
21:21 < gzmask> uriel: so what you are expecting would happen when you
middle click a link...
21:21 < uriel> yes, but this channel is about go, not about
programming/computers
21:22 < uriel> gzmask: whatever I have configured my browser to do when I
middle click a link
21:23 < gzmask> uriel: then you mind is completely RESTful, congratz but
this year is 2010
21:23 < uriel> yes, it is year whatever, and the world is, like every other
year, full of retarded crap,
21:23 < uriel> I don't have to like it
21:24 < uriel> it is 2010 and most people use C++ and java (or worse
things), why is anyone here?
21:27 < gammy> uriel: Since when?
21:27 < gammy> Who is "most people" ?
21:27 < gammy> is/are
21:27 < gzmask> c++ sucks.  so does java
21:27 < uriel> so does AJAX
21:28 < gzmask> now you do agree AJAX sucks and WebSocket is here to save
that...
21:28 < gzmask> and you'll say WebSocket is doing random crap on you client
and you don't like it...
21:28 < gammy> hehe
21:29 < leonod> C/C++ has its uses
21:29 < gzmask> so why don't we change all the web page to...  you know, TXT
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21:38 < TMKCodes> by the way, there's no Go compiler for windows?
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21:40 < gzmask> no.  not officially.  some dude made one I believe.  but you
don't need it.  Go now is mostly server side/OS programs
21:42 < TMKCodes> k
21:42 < TMKCodes> was just wondering
21:45 < TMKCodes> There's no newbie tutorial to Go? Just the one that
explains go for c/c++ coders?
21:46 < divoxx> http://golang.org/doc/effective_go.html ?
21:46 < gzmask> check out the 3 days tutorial in the doc folder in $GOROOT
21:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8x8mc by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
The prefix optimization applies only to the first iteration.
21:47 < divoxx> yeah the 3 days tutorial are cool
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21:47 < xorl> anyone hear anything about os/background?
21:47 < divoxx> there is a link for it on the introduction of
http://golang.org/doc/go_tutorial.html
21:50 < uriel> actually, the current go distribution should work on windows
21:50 < uriel> just some of the libraries are missing and the runtime is
(IIRC) not complete
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22:06 < hstimer> What is the best way to talk to a go server if you are
defining your own protocol and the client is in c?  netchan, srpc?  Are there c
client libs for these?
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22:09 < uriel> hstimer: it probably depends on what kind of data and other
requirements you have
22:09 < uriel> I'm biased, but I would recommend 9p: http://9p.cat-v.org
22:10 < hstimer> uriel: small messages (<500bytes) some reliable, some
not
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22:11 < uriel> hstimer: again, it depends on your latency requirements, how
the flow is structure, security requirements, etc, etc, etc
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22:13 < hstimer> uriel: 20 messages/sec per client, no security, low latency
(<50ms)
22:14 < hstimer> reliable messages need to not block non-reliable messages
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22:14 < hstimer> reliable in order (of course)
22:14 < hstimer> c client code
22:14 < hstimer> go server code
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22:16 < uriel> dunno, I'd use straight tcp, I hate sockets, so I would use
something like p9p's dial() (which makes things similar to Go)
22:17 < uriel> http://man.cat-v.org/p9p/3/dial
22:18 < hstimer> cool, I'll take a look at it
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22:42 < no_mind> if I make a change in a package, do I need to recompile
complete go or can I compile just one package ?
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22:45 < TMKCodes> i got error with all.bash
22:45 < TMKCodes> http://codepad.org/E0A6D2Gs
22:45 < TMKCodes> anyone can help?
22:47 < no_mind> is it a fresh pull or rebuilding old one ?
22:47 < TMKCodes> fresh pull
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22:48 < TMKCodes> and codesearch.google.com is not down and my network is
not down
22:48 < uriel> TMKCodes: non-issue
22:48 < uriel> ignore it
22:48 < uriel> (or the the CommonProblems page
22:49 < uriel> really, that test should be removed, it just confuses peopel
22:50 < TMKCodes> :/
22:50 < TMKCodes> so go compiler is working now?
22:51 < uriel> ?
22:51 < uriel> try it
22:52 < TMKCodes> well yeah i'm feeling stupid today.  :P
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23:07 < fenicks> hello
23:07 < uriel> hi fenicks
23:08 < fenicks> yep, uriel
23:11 < fenicks> what's the good way to read String in os.Stdin ?
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23:16 < uriel> 'good way'?
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23:18 < no_mind> what this error means "fatal error: can't find import:
httplib"
23:18 < uriel> fenicks: http://golang.org/pkg/os/#File.Read ?
23:19 < uriel> no_mind: probably what it says, that it can't find the
httplib package (just guessing)
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23:19 < dagle> fenicks: ioutils contains some funktions.
23:20 < fenicks> yep, thanks uriel, dagle ; I have found an issu with
"bufio.NewReader(os.Stdin)"
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23:22 < no_mind> uriel, how can I fix this ?
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23:23 < uriel> I have no idea, what are you tyring to build?
23:24 < no_mind> I am building gocouch package from here
http://github.com/hoisie/gocouch
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23:33 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8xwix by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/cmd/godoc/ -- godoc: updated documentation
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