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00:55 < fenicks> hello
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00:58 < fenicks> I'm writing a command line tools and wants non-printing
password asked on terminal.  Is it possible to use something like C termio for GO
language ?
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01:07 < meatmanek>
http://golang.org/doc/go_faq.html#Do_Go_programs_link_with_Cpp_programs
01:08 < meatmanek> I don't know how you'd go about it, though, so don't ask
me
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01:29 < fenicks> how to capture a signal in GO (like trap shell command) ?
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01:40 < Boggy-B> That was very odd
01:40 < Boggy-B> Wouldn't let me change my nick with this channel open
01:40 < Boggy-B> Hello :D
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01:45 < Boggy-B> Is there any way to replicate something like Occams PRI ALT
in Go? I assume there is but I cant find it
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03:57 < jessta> Boggy-B: what is PRI ALT?
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05:28 < uriel> 00:58 < fenicks> I'm writing a command line tools and
wants non-printing password asked on terminal.  Is it possible to use something
like C termio for GO language ?
05:29 < uriel> fenicks: search the archives of go-nuts
05:29 < uriel> various options for this have been discussed there
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05:55 < rsaarelm> Hm. Would like an idiom where I can define a subset from a
fixed value set, like the struct declaration, "type X struct { A, B, C int }; foo
:= X { A: 1, C: 2 }".
05:55 < rsaarelm> The catch being that the zero value is a valid value in
the struct, and I specifically want the system to recognize when a value is left
undefined and do special stuff for that value in that case.
05:56 < rsaarelm> In the default system, there's no way to distinguish X{A:
1, C:2} from X{A:1, B: 0, C: 2} afaik.
05:57 < rsaarelm> I could use maps, but then I'd lose compile-time checking
of the fields.
06:01 < rsaarelm> Actually it can't be done that easily anyway.  I'm doing a
sort of data inheritance scheme, and there are actually two different cases.  I
may want to say "B is undefined, use an earlier value." but also "B has no value
from here on, ignore any earlier values."
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06:02 < rsaarelm> (That probably wasn't very comprehendable, sorry.)
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06:26 < meatmanek> will a string in go ever contain a null delimiter?
06:26 < anticw> delimiter no, 0 byte is possible
06:26 < meatmanek> yeah that
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10:26 < eliteSchaf> hey.  is anyone awake?
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10:53 < jessta> eliteSchaf: i am
10:54 < eliteSchaf> jessta, hey :) are you experienced with go?  i dont get
the receiver/sender channels, i mean what are they used for
10:54 < eliteSchaf> ?
10:55 < uriel> eliteSchaf: everything?
10:55 < uriel> you might want to read on CSP
10:55 < eliteSchaf> csp?
10:56 < eliteSchaf> effective go just shows, that there are such channels,
but they aren't explained in detail
10:56 < eliteSchaf> so any tutorial/example would be helpful
10:56 < uriel>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicating_sequential_processes
10:57 < uriel> here is an example:
http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/concurrent_window_system/
10:58 < eliteSchaf> thanks
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11:09 < eliteSchaf> alright, i know how to use normal channels, but what
about a receiver-channel?
11:12 < uriel> ?
11:12 < uriel> you can send and receive from a channel
11:12 < uriel> if you send down a channel, somebody should read from the
channel
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11:23 < eliteSchaf> uriel, yeah, but you can also specify channels which can
only receive or send messages
11:25 < meatmanek> I keep getting a sigsegv on this line
11:25 < meatmanek> newEntries[i].Line = be.Line[1:]
11:26 < meatmanek> except newEntries is defined as a slice, and it has
capacity and length 256, and be.Line is the string "a"
11:27 < meatmanek> fmt.Printf("setting newEntries[%d] = %p %p %p %d %d\n",
i, be, be.Line, newEntries, cap(newEntries), len(newEntries)) is the line right
before, and it outputs setting newEntries[0] = 0x74FBC0 %p(string=a) 0x2F8800 256
256
11:28 < meatmanek> oh
11:29 < meatmanek> I should probably initialize newEntries[i], shouldn't
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13:17 < nickjohnson> Is there a go library for reading and writing floating
point values to/from a file?
13:17 < nickjohnson> encoding/binary only handles ints
13:17 < uriel> shouldn't gobs work for that?
13:20 < uriel> (or json if you don't mind the overhead)
13:24 < nickjohnson> Not if I just want to encode an IEEE float.  :)
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14:07 < rsaarelm> nickjohnson: I answered this yesterday, based on the
source, encoding/binary seems to have IEEE float encoding as an undocumented
feature.
14:08 < TaMonKein> quick question, how i can get input form user in console
with Go?
14:11 < uriel> TaMonKein: os.Stdin
14:12 < rsaarelm> To read one line of input, "in :=
bufio.NewReader(os.Stdin); result, err := in.ReadString('\n')"
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14:24 < TaMonKein> uriel thanks
14:25 < TaMonKein> rsaarelm thanks too.
14:33 < TaMonKein> Hmm..  Good yes, just that i need to read integer.  :P
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14:44 < rsaarelm> TaMonKein: Look into package strconv.
14:45 < TaMonKein> Kiitos.
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14:59 < TaMonKein> Go requires me to use every variable i declare?
15:10 < rsaarelm> Yep.
15:10 < rsaarelm> And every import.
15:12 < jA_cOp> Unless the variable is _
15:12 < jA_cOp> afaik
15:13 < rsaarelm> That's not really a variable.  Just a marker to ignore
that part of the assignment.
15:14 < rsaarelm> But that's exactly for the case where you don't want to
use a part of a multi-returnvalue expression.
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15:44 < TaMonKein> Hmm.  What i'm doing wrong?  It does not convert the
value correctly
15:44 < TaMonKein> http://codepad.org/LrygxP89
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16:01 < TaMonKein> rsaarelm, what i'm doing wrong?
http://codepad.org/LrygxP89 it does not convert the string to int correctly
16:07 < jessta> TaMonKein: you shouldn't ignore the errors
16:07 < jessta> if you check the error returns and print the error, you'd
have a better idea of what's wrong
16:07 < TaMonKein> i've checked them
16:08 < TaMonKein> and that is why i know the result has something wrong
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16:08 < TaMonKein> it does not convert the result to int for some reason.
16:11 < TaMonKein> error of strconv.Atoi(): parsing 25
16:11 < TaMonKein> : invalid argument
16:11 < TaMonKein> in.ReadString does not give error
16:14 < sladegen> TaMonKein: perhaps you need to remove \n from the
string...
16:14 < TaMonKein> yeah i've tought that, but how.  :P
16:15 * sladegen shrugs: i'm only idling here, you do the work.
16:15 < TaMonKein> :P
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16:32 < TaMonKein> Why console input must be so annoying compared to c++
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16:44 < rsaarelm> TaMonKein: Yeah, remove the \n.  strings.TrimSpace.
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16:47 < rsaarelm> Also the scanner package is probably worth a look if you
want quick and dirty parsing of input strings.
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16:54 < TaMonKein> rsaarelm, its just that i'm too used to std::cin >>
variable;
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16:57 < TaMonKein> rsaarelm, your awesome.  Thanks :P
16:57 < TaMonKein> it works now.
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17:24 < Boggy-B> okay, this could be a really stupid question, i apologise,
but can alternative guarding be done in go?
17:24 < Boggy-B> such as, you have a process with two channels, and you want
to have the input from one channel take priotiry over the other
17:24 < Boggy-B> in occam it's PRI ALT
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17:32 < ni|> hello :)
17:42 < TaMonKein> I need some opinions on this -> http://tr.im/Pc9S
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17:53 < rsaarelm> Maybe tell a bit about the default Makefiles to build
stuff so people don't have to stick with the clumsy 6g && 6l stuff.
17:54 < TaMonKein> rsaarelm, good idea.  :P
17:55 < rsaarelm> Links to the Tutorial and Effective Go docs at the golang
site would probably also be nice.
17:56 < rsaarelm> And a link to the package reference page and some examples
about figuring out how to use package to do something useful.
17:56 < TaMonKein> yeah, the tutorial booky is not finished yet.
17:58 < rsaarelm> Oh, and you'll want to explain stdin and stdout.  Newbies
need to be taught about the "everything is a file" idea in Unix, and how you can
read from file or from the console and output into a file or to the console with
the same stdin/stdout channels.
17:58 < rsaarelm> And of course some toy file examples in general.
17:58 < rsaarelm> But going afk now.
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19:16 < plexdev> http://is.gd/8SBai by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc:
minor const simplifications
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20:15 < uriel> TaMonKein: shameless plug: you might want to link to
http://go-lang.cat-v.org for people looking for extra libraries, bindings, tools,
etc.
20:16 < uriel> also, I'm not sure if it is my screen or what, but the code
examples in that page look too close to ComicSans for comfort
20:16 < uriel> so I would strongly recommend using a different font
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21:02 < TaMonKein> Uriel, i can change the font and the font is comic sans
21:02 < TaMonKein> and including link for cat-v is good idea.
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21:14 < uriel> TaMonKein: cool, thanks :)
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22:37 < uriel> nice article:
http://rogpeppe.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/unlimited-buffering-with-low-overhead/
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