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00:31 < hstimer> is there a way to dump arbitrary structures with their
field names as well as values?
00:38 < fenicks> yep guys, why http.URLEscape transform space " " to "+" and
not "%20" ?
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00:44 < meatmanek> that's how URL encoding works?
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00:45 < meatmanek> I believe in any correct implementation, + and %20 are
both acceptable representations of space.
00:46 < meatmanek> and hopefully shouldn't have any difference in meaning
00:49 < meatmanek> do boolean slices get optimized to bitwise operations?
00:50 < meatmanek> in 6g
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00:56 < fenicks> meatmanek: I connect to a service who don't understand "+"
like a space, only "%20".  bad, bad, bad.  For now I'll go to transform at the end
"+" to "%20" explicitly.  I'll notice the service developer to this problem.  But
I'have seen anything about that "+" must be the same like "%20" in this rfc :
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986
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01:29 < meatmanek> fenicks, you appear to be correct
01:29 < meatmanek> Perhaps file a bug report?
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01:41 < fenicks> meatmanek: yep
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03:35 < nf_> the rfc doesn't mention anything about + vs %20
03:35 < nf_> but + has historically been used as + in url escaping
03:35 < nf_> as space, i mean
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04:40 < no_mind> how do I check if a given index is in array's range without
throwing an error ?
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04:50 < nf_> len(array)
04:51 < nf_> no_mind: http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Length_and_capacity
04:51 < no_mind> nf_, thanks, figured that out
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05:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/9qIcV by [Andrew Gerrand] in
go/src/cmd/gotest/ -- gotest: set $AS to $GOBIN/$AS
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06:59 < cbeck> Anyone using latest go-mode.el have an issue with switch?
All but the first case get completely unindented.
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07:02 < anticw> it's a bit naff
07:02 < anticw> M-x gofmt
07:10 < rsaarelm> Since you can call a multi-parameter function with a
single multireturn function as parameter, shouldn't you also be able to write
multifield struct initializer literals with a multireturn function as the single
content expression?
07:11 < rsaarelm> I mean it seems you can't now, but would it make the
language more consistent if you could.
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07:14 < KirkMcDonald> I would enjoy a more generalized "tuple" concept.
07:15 < rsaarelm> Something like that might be good.
07:15 < KirkMcDonald> Or...  well, there are a number of possibilities.
07:16 < anticw> there aren't really tuples though
07:16 < KirkMcDonald> anticw: How do you mean?
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07:17 < anticw> generically there aren't tuples in the way other languages
have tuples
07:17 < KirkMcDonald> This depends on which language you are referring to.
07:17 < anticw> Go
07:17 < KirkMcDonald> Which other languages.
07:18 < anticw> this channel is about Go, im not talking about anything else
07:18 < KirkMcDonald> ...
07:18 < anticw> obviously some other languages have wel defined tuples
07:18 < KirkMcDonald> I am saying Go should get some sort of tuple.
07:18 < KirkMcDonald> Of course it does not have them.
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07:18 < anticw> well, it has things that look like tuples, in a sense
07:18 < anticw> x,y = y,z
07:18 < anticw> for example should work
07:19 < KirkMcDonald> It has specific support for certain applications of
tuples, yes.
07:19 < anticw> gah, i think i found a 6g compiler bug
07:19 < anticw> or something
07:19 < anticw> distilling this down to an easy test case will be painful
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07:24 < anticw> oh, no, it's not that bad, it's simple that it's late and im
retarded and i put a race where one couldn't possibly exist :-)
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08:35 < c0nfl|ct> bom dia
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09:36 < meatmanek> container/list's Iter() should still yield elements that
are pushed at the end of the list before the channel is exhausted, right?
09:49 < meatmanek> agh
09:49 < meatmanek> import . "./trie/trie" gives me syntax error: unexpected
name, expecting literal
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10:18 < meatmanek> somebody want to help me decipher an error message?
10:18 < meatmanek> http://pastebin.com/d3ajePa0
10:20 < meatmanek> does 6l not like spaces in file paths?
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10:33 < dagle> meatmanek: With the code we might be able to help you.
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14:06 < no_mind> I have declared a map like this : Esmtp map[string]
[]string . When I try to assign a value to map like this : Esmtp[key] = value , I
get a segmentation fault.  The value here is an array of string
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14:15 < drhodes> temp := make(map[string] []string)
14:16 < drhodes> temp["ASDF"] = []string{"A", "B"}
14:16 < drhodes> no_mind: this works here
14:17 < no_mind> drhodes, I have a function that returns an array of string
and assigning it to the map.  The example you gave works here too
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14:21 < drhodes> no_mind: what if you try changing the map to: map[string]
*[]string ?
14:21 < no_mind> ok
14:22 < no_mind> drhodes, I am getting this error on using *[]string :
"cannot use value (type []string) as type *[]string in assignment"
14:23 < drhodes> no_mind: you'll have to temp["ASDF"] = &yourStringArray
14:24 < no_mind> drhodes, tried that too.  Program compiles but segfaults :
"SIGSEGV: segmentation violation"
14:25 < drhodes> no_mind: maybe the segfault is happening in the function
which returns the []string
14:25 < no_mind> drhodes, the stack trace points to the line where
assignment is happening not where the function returns the value
14:26 < drhodes> no_mind: you've tried Printf'ing the []string before
assignment?
14:26 < no_mind> drhodes, if I comment the map assignment line, everything
works smoothly
14:26 < no_mind> drhodes, yes, it prints
14:27 < drhodes> Printf("%t", yourArray) reports it as a []string too?
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14:30 < drhodes> and if the assignment works for some []string{"declared",
"right on the spot"} then I'm stumped too.
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14:38 < no_mind> Printf reports []
14:40 < no_mind> oops
14:40 < no_mind> it reports []string=[]
14:40 < no_mind> or whatever is the value in the array
14:41 < drhodes> ohhh
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14:48 < drhodes> no_mind: if you want, and can reduce the code down to a
paste @ http://dpaste.com/ or wherever, I can try running it here.
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14:49 < no_mind> drhodes, it is a package, you will have to compile the
package, test client and need an smtp server to run the code
14:49 < no_mind> it is a smtp library
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14:56 < no_mind> drhodes, the problem could be that the key I am trying to
assign is not present in the map.  How do I add new key to a map ?
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15:06 < drhodes> no_mind: they're added automatically, no need to create a
key first
15:07 < no_mind> drhodes, that is not happening :(
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15:10 < no_mind> drhodes, fixed the problem
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15:14 < drhodes> no_mind: what was it :) ?
15:15 < no_mind> drhodes, the map I had declared was inside a struct.  So
before assigning keys I have to do conn.Esmtp = make(map[string] []string)
15:16 < drhodes> yeah.
15:16 < no_mind> that solved the problem
15:16 < drhodes> so the map was nil, right?
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15:18 < no_mind> looks like
15:18 < no_mind> but that brings me to another problem, how do I check if a
key exists in the map
15:20 < drhodes> I think the way is to val, err := someMap[aKey], and check
if there's an error.  I could be wrong though
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15:21 < no_mind> drhodes, that throws a runtime error
15:22 < drhodes> no_mind: http://golang.org/doc/effective_go.html#maps, they
have an example with timezones
15:23 < drhodes> instead of err, they use ok -- I think it's a bool
15:23 < no_mind> looking at it
15:25 < ogh> hello, is it possible to implement a non-blocking UDP server?
the specs of "func (*UDPConn) Read" seem to suggest that a timeout is the only
option.  sice UDPConn struct does not export anything, is it possible to use
select on the file descriptor?
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15:25 < no_mind> drhodes, the problem with this approach is, I will have to
declare a variable called val but will never use val.  This will prevent the
program from compiling
15:25 < drhodes> _, ok := ...
15:26 < drhodes> the underscore is meant for throw away value
15:26 < no_mind> thanks
15:26 < drhodes> you're welcome no_mind
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16:24 < charlesg3> is anyone familiar with the lower-level interface between
go and the OS?
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16:49 < edwin> hi
16:49 < edwin> http://paste.debian.net/61994/
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16:50 < edwin> FAIL: http.TestClient Get http://www.google.com/robots.txt:
dial tcp www.google.com:http: dial udp 127.0.0.1:53: network is unreachable
16:50 < edwin> and make fails
16:50 < edwin> how do I skip that test?
16:50 < dagle> edwin: is that the latest version?
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16:51 < edwin> yeah just hg cloned
16:51 < edwin> and followed the instructions on the webpage on how to
install
16:51 < dagle> Hmm.  Well you could go into the src and remove the test.
16:52 < edwin> doh, it tries AF_INET6
16:52 < edwin> of course that fails :)
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17:33 < alouca> hello
17:34 < alouca> is there a way to dynamically load Go user-created
libraries?
17:34 < alouca> (like dlcn.h in C)
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18:29 < dagle> "The programming language aims to combine the speed of Python
with the robustness of C++" When was this clame done?
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18:29 < dagle> Or is it just random jibberish by a news site?
18:31 <+iant> I don't think any of the Go team said anything like "the
robustness of C++", whatever that means
18:31 < sladegen> dagle: i think if at all it's the other way around...
18:32 < sladegen> someone must have been confabulating his own prejuidices.
18:32 < dagle> I think they are not talking about running speed, they mean
programming speed.
18:33 < anticw> that's hard to measure
18:33 < dagle> ofc.
18:33 < sladegen> hah, touche.
18:33 < anticw> i did some work here for some people and python and go in
parallel ...  go is maybe 20% to 50% large in LOC that python in a few contrived
cases
18:34 < anticw> but the code wasn't really any harder to write or debug,
though clearly it was more transcribing at some level
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18:36 < sladegen> edwin: you can also do what first comment here says:
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=20
18:37 < edwin> sladegen: yeah I ended up putting http and net into NOTEST
18:39 < anticw> does mhoise lurk here?
18:39 < no_mind> can I add a value to an array without mentioning the array
index ?
18:40 <+iant> no_mind: no, but you can with the Vector type in
container/vector
18:40 < no_mind> ok
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18:41 < newsham> where would I find docs on a foreign function interface?
18:41 <+iant> newsham: see files under misc/cgo
18:41 < anticw> look at cgo
18:41 < newsham> ty
18:42 < anticw> iant: btw, is deleting elements from a map safe when under
iteration?
18:42 < anticw> i test it and it seems to work, but nothing seems to
guarantee this is the case
18:42 < no_mind> iant, I am facing a problem, I declared a map like this :
Esmtp map[string] []string . I need to store keys and some keys might have values
associated with them.  THe problem is when there is no value associated with a
key, the map doesnt store the key.  I want some thing like Esmtp['STARTTLS'] = []
18:43 <+iant> anticw: the language spec sort of implies it is safe, but it
is not really clearly stated
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18:43 <+iant> "If map entries that have not yet been processed are deleted
during iteration, they will not be processed."
18:43 < no_mind> ok
18:44 <+iant> no_mind: you can write Esmtp['STARTTLS'] = make([]string, 1)
18:44 <+iant> then you compare Esmtp[x] with nil
18:44 <+iant> to see if there is anything there
18:45 < anticw> for k,v := range somemap { if foo(v) { somemap[k] = nil,
false } }
18:50 < anticw> iant: btw, chan send/readability is always true for closed
channels
18:50 < anticw> that's fine (ie.  will-not-block semantics) but i can't find
in the spec where this is explicit
18:52 <+iant> I think the spec says it pretty clearly for receive, but I
don't see anything there about send
18:52 <+iant> Please feel free to open issues about these, um, issues
18:52 < anticw> for RX is makes sense ill argue
18:52 < no_mind> iant, the problem is, when I check the values immediately
after assignment, I get a response.  When I return the map to a function and try
to access the key, it throws a runtime error
18:52 < anticw> TX im not sure about, someone posted at least one issue with
that here already
18:52 < newsham> anyone here familiar with the hector chu repo for go on
win?
18:52 <+iant> no_mind: that seems odd....
18:53 <+iant> newsham: I *think* those changes have all been folded into the
main repository at this point
18:53 < newsham> ok..  so I just use the main repo?  are there any special
build instructions or just the stock stuff?
18:53 <+iant> newsham: I don't really know the state, sorry
18:53 < no_mind> where can I find details about container/vector.  Dont see
anything in http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html
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18:54 <+iant> no_mind: http://golang.org/pkg/container/vector/
18:54 < no_mind> ah
18:55 < no_mind> iant, any plans to start a cookbook for GO! ? We need short
examples to have a quicker start at the language
18:55 < meatmanek> is there anything wrong with for blah :=
linkedList.Iter()?
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18:55 <+iant> no_mind: that is what Effective Go is meant to be but we know
that we need more examples
18:55 < KirkMcDonald> meatmanek: Do you need a 'range' in there?
18:55 < meatmanek> yeah that
18:55 < meatmanek> is there anything wrong with for blah := range
linkedList.Iter()?
18:56 <+iant> I think that Andrew is going to work on that a bit
18:56 < no_mind> iant, so how can community contribute back the examples to
Effective GO ?
18:56 <+iant> no_mind: you can contribute a change just like any other
change to Go
18:56 <+iant> it's in doc/effective_go.html
18:56 < no_mind> ok
18:56 <+iant> meatmanek: you can only use range in a for statement
18:57 < meatmanek> right
18:57 < meatmanek> for blah := range linkedList.Iter()
18:57 <+iant> yes, that should be fine
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19:10 < newsham> *** No rule to make target `install-mingw32_nt-5.1', needed
by `install'.
19:10 < newsham> up to that point things seem to go smoothly.
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19:49 < leonod> Are there any examples on the net package anywhere?
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20:04 < uriel> leonod: examples of using the net package?  well, the tests
are a good start, but if you want something more complex, there are quite a few
programs that use it here:
20:04 < uriel> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/go-code
20:06 < leonod> uriel: Yes I rememered that go has its own module tests so I
found some good examples.  Thanks!
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21:58 < eliteSchaf> hey guys
21:59 < dagle> Hi.
22:00 < eliteSchaf> how can i create a slice in var ( )?
22:00 < eliteSchaf> and fill it with values
22:01 < dagle> huh?
22:02 < dagle> var slice []int = &[3]int;
22:02 < dagle> ?
22:02 < Kashia> var foo []int = make([]int, 20); for i := range foo { foo[i]
= i }
22:02 < eliteSchaf> well, you can describe variables, which will be
initialized at startup :)
22:03 < eliteSchaf> Kashia, is there no way to do it like "foo []int = {1,
2, 3}"?
22:03 < Kashia> var foo = []int{1,2,3}
22:03 < eliteSchaf> Kashia, thanks :D
22:03 < Kashia> np
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22:09 < leonod> night guys
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23:44 < eliteSchaf> whats the easiest way to convert []byte back to a
string?  when i convert it back with a bytes.Buffer, then sometimes i get
completly wrong characters
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23:47 < dagle> Try to use []int instead of []byte .
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