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00:49 < ni|> iant: ping
00:49 < ni|> i was reading through the standard compiler
00:50 < ni|> and found allign instead of aling
00:50 < ni|> align -- its a trivial misspell, what should i name the CL
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00:50 < ni|> all compilers affected
00:50 < ni|> presently it is: "trivial: fix misspelling of align in the
compilers"
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00:50 <+iant> that sounds fine
00:51 < ni|> k thx
00:51 <+iant> I think I saw at least one such misspelling fixed just
yesterday or today
00:51 < Eridius> heh, that same spelling was used in a bunch of comments
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00:51 < ni|> Eridius: i got those too
00:52 < ni|> i picked it out because i do that _all_ the time myself
00:52 < ni|> something programmers are spell bad
00:52 < ni|> :)
00:52 < ni|> anyways gg for now, iant thx again
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00:57 < exch> uriel: here's a new entry for your Go Bindings page :)
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-mtp
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01:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aZtn5 by [Rob Pike] in go/doc/ -- spec changes
for panic and recover.
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01:11 < exch> thanks :)
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02:59 < uriel> exch: sorry, rather busy at the moment in the 'real' world,
so I'm on and off online, but managed to catch that and add it ;)
02:59 < uriel> exch: keep up the great work
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03:10 < exch> yea I noticed.  thanks :)
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13:11 < HollyRain> I've a package with several functions, how to build that
package?
13:11 < HollyRain> it shows: not package main
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13:13 < exch> look at a makefile example for some existing packages.  They
are a bit different
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15:27 < exch> I'm shocked.  The MTP stuff actually works :o
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15:55 < anticw> exch: MTP?
15:55 < exch> Media Transfer Protocol..  I wrote a wrapper for libmtp in go.
You can talk to media players like MP3 players with it
15:56 < exch> http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-mtp
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15:58 < exch> rather, I'm in the process of writing.  It's far from finished
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16:22 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b0ylF by [Firmansyah Adiputra] in
go/src/pkg/xgb/ -- xgb: fix request length and request size.
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16:54 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b0B52 by [Rob Pike] in 5 subdirs of
go/src/cmd/ -- fix spelling of align
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17:03 < ni|> whoops looks live i've gone and pissed of computing legends :(
17:05 < dagle> ni|: You mean with the spelling thing?
17:07 < exch> attention to detail is what makes a job a great one :)
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17:10 < ThunderChicken> s/live/like/
17:10 < ThunderChicken> s/pissed of/pissed off/
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17:14 < ni|> ThunderChicken: oh haha.
17:14 < ni|> dagle: yep
17:14 < ni|> its ok, i'm a youngin
17:14 < ni|> i'm dumb
17:14 < ni|> i was just reading though because i was writing an allocator
17:15 < ThunderChicken> practice.  Read more literature (i.e., stories where
the authors pay attention to spelling, grammar, and plot).
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17:17 < ni|> ThunderChicken: i think you are missing something
17:17 < ni|> i submitted a change but used an email not in my CLA
17:17 < ThunderChicken> a life?
17:17 < ThunderChicken> oh.
17:18 < ni|> and so rob was happy i fixed it but pissed i used the wrong
name and russ is pissed because i'm working through a bug in the codereview
extension with him :)
17:18 < ni|> and so was pissed more
17:24 < exch> send em a bouquet of flowers
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17:41 < ni|> exch: good idea!
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18:49 < anticw> iant: the current GC requires stopping all threads during
collection i assume?
18:49 <+iant> yes
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19:13 < cbeck> Before I get down and dirty and RTFS, does anyone have a
suggestion for a good explanation of how the runtime scheduler works?
19:15 < KirkMcDonald> Times goes in, bits go out.
19:15 < KirkMcDonald> s/Times/Time/
19:16 < cbeck> good is usually \subset short, but not necessarily \superset
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19:33 < BlackBook> Aha!
19:33 < BlackBook> That's the way to do it.
19:35 < BlackBook> GoLang network access in OS X requires that (a) the
firewall be off or (b) the binary be signed or (c) 'set access for specific
services'.
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19:45 < BlackBook> That's the application firewall, not ipfw.  This is what
was confusing me.
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21:14 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b0W5A by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
runtime: run all finalizers in a single goroutine.
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21:46 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b0YKK by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/godoc/ --
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21:51 < gregc> My build of Go just failed with "cp: cannot stat `6prof': No
such file or directory"
21:53 < exch> you have $GOBIN set?
21:53 < gregc> If this means that work is being done on the profiler, that'd
be cool.
21:53 < gregc> I've built Go successfully many times.
21:53 < exch> mm
21:53 < gregc> Maybe $GOBIN is blank though...
21:53 < exch> i've updated a few days ago.  worked fine then
21:53 < exch> possible something changed in the meantime
21:54 < gregc> oh, I updated to Lucid beta...  I bet that is why...
21:55 < gregc> Actually, I don't know why that would matter.  I also don't
know if I ever had $GOBIN set.  Should I have $GOBIN set to something?
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21:56 <+iant> gregc: I think rsc broke the build, he should fix it shortly
21:56 <+iant> See http://godashboard.appspot.com/
21:57 < gregc> Oh, I see.  No biggie by my.  Thanks.
21:57 < gregc> *me
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21:58 < gregc> Really though, a good profiler would mean a lot to me.  So,
if that is being improved, I'll be happy.
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21:59 < HollyRain> if it's imported a package as i.e.  'path', then it isn't
possible use path as argument into any new function
22:00 < HollyRain> what would be the best one?  import it with another name
or use another name for the variable?
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22:00 <+iant> I don't think there is any one answer, but I would lean toward
using another name for the variable
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22:03 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b108I by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/prof/ -- fix
build
22:08 < gregc> Wow, that was fast!
22:09 < gregc> I am witnessing real-time development.
22:09 < gregc> It built for me, and now my project's benchmarks run slightly
faster!
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22:11 < gregc> 15/16 faster.  The last time I had built Golang was probably
a week ago.
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22:21 < gregc> When I run the profiler on my benchmarks, "scanblock" is
sampled the most at 16.17%.  What is scanblock?
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22:22 <+iant> gregc: it's part of the garbage collector; it's in
src/pkg/runtime/mgc0.c
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22:22 < ni|> iant: does it make sense to post the fix of the bug i was
speaking to you about before
22:23 <+iant> which bug was that?
22:23 < ni|> where the final return value is not required
22:23 < gregc> Ok. runtime.memclr gets sampled the second most frequently at
7.92%.  Is that part of the garbage collector too?
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22:23 < ni|> just branch testing
22:23 < ni|> i should run benchmarks, damn.
22:23 <+iant> I think that is a known issue
22:23 <+iant> gregc: no, memclr just zeroes out memory
22:23 <+iant> the garbage collector might call it, but other things call it
too
22:24 < gregc> ok, thanks.
22:26 < BlackBook> Why do so many programmers dislike vowels?
22:27 < KirkMcDonald> Computers aren't good at round things.
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22:32 < gregc> More extensive benchmarking puts scanblock at 19.11%.  So the
garbage collector is using a 5th of my compute time.  How much can I hope the
garbage collector will improve?
22:32 <+iant> That is a very good quesiton
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22:35 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b12yu by [Russ Cox] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/pprof/ -- pprof: dump extra heap information at end of heap
profile
22:35 < dagle> BlackBook: It's a optimization ;)
22:36 < Archwyrm> BlackBook: Probably because many words are unique enough
without them anyway.
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22:36 < Archwyrm> Most vowels in English are reduced to 'uh' (schwa) anyway.
22:36 < BlackBook> I think it's because smart people often like the idea of
making other people work out puzzles.
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22:37 < BlackBook> Archwyrm, somewhere in the country, there's someone who
does that with *some* vowel.
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22:38 < Archwyrm> BlackBook: It's a general process.  Vowel reduction in
English has been going on for at least 1500 years.
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22:45 <+iant> soon all conversation will be reduced the word "uh"
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22:47 < exch> "hurrr" and "RHAAA" and a big wooden bat worked fine in the
stone ages :p
22:47 < Archwyrm> uh huh ;P
22:50 < KirkMcDonald> Oh er.
22:53 < BlackBook> iant, so Prez.  Bush was ahead of his time?
22:53 < BlackBook> exch, well, GUI interfaces aren't much different.  Point,
and grunt (click).
22:53 < BlackBook> If it worked for ancient man, it's good enough for us,
right?
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22:55 < exch> indeed
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23:28 < ni|> can i get a go t-shirt anywhere?
23:29 < KirkMcDonald>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310206771150&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=L*S%3F&GUID=fb10f61f1250a06459c51555fff5a410&itemid=310206771150&ff4=263602_263622#ht_2441wt_941
23:31 < gregc> Is it known if anyone is coding a Go (board game) bot in Go?
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23:32 < gregc> It would be an appropriate choice.
23:32 < gregc> I am working on an Arimaa bot with Golang.
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23:33 < exch> someone did a Go version of Go I believe
23:35 < gregc> I saw that a few of the bots submitted to the Tron (Google
sponsored) AI challenge were written in Go.
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23:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/b16Zg by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/pkg/testing/ -- fix build
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23:46 < cbeck> gregc: I threw one together, was a good deal of fun
23:47 < gregc> Cool!  How well does it play?  Did you use goroutines to
implement MCTS?
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23:49 < cbeck> gregc: Nothing terribly complicated, I was still wrestling
with the language a fair bit as I was writing it
23:49 < gregc> Ok. I already threw away the first version of my Arimaa bot
which I wrote while learning Golang.
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23:51 < exch> mm I really would like to split up my cgo package code into
multiple files.  It's getting rather massive
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