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00:25 < KirkMcDonald> Are there bindings to curses yet?
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00:32 < smw_> KirkMcDonald: I saw one on cat-v a long time ago
00:32 < smw_> http://github.com/jabb/gocurse
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01:31 < meatmanek> does the testing package seed the random number
generator?
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07:18 < nocturnal> i'm having issues learning about slices.  basically i'm
writing some exercises using the regexp package and the func (re *Regexp) Match(b
[]byte) bool takes a slice of a byte array as argument.  at least that's how i
understand it
07:18 < nocturnal> so i have data in a byte array called readData.  i pass
it to the function like this re.Match(readData[0:bytes]) bytes being the maximum
value of my data in the array
07:18 < nocturnal> or the maximum index
07:18 < nocturnal> but i keep getting this error from the compiler
grep.go:61: cannot use (node SLICEARR) (type []uint8) as type string in function
argument
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13:19 < kanade> wassup
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15:24 < manveru> Kashia: around?
15:25 < Kashia> manveru, aye
15:25 < manveru> since my last attempt failed, i'm trying a different
approach now
15:26 < Kashia> aye, had just wanted to ask if your initial disappointment
subsided ;)
15:26 < manveru> lol
15:26 < Kashia> so yah, go ahead, will try to have answers :)
15:26 < manveru> no, i think go is in any case better than messing with C or
C++
15:27 < Kashia> *g* that I don't know yet, but I do think it is worth a try
15:27 < manveru> well, i'm trying to use polymorphic functions
15:27 < manveru> not sure if there is such a thing
15:27 * Kashia looks up on that term
15:27 < manveru> like, in dylan, you can define two functiosn that take
different types, and depending on the type it calls a different function
15:28 < manveru> maybe also called pattern matching, though that's a
different thing afaicr
15:28 < Kashia> ah.  ok, no, there aren't
15:28 < manveru> i discovered that fmt has %v, which i assume is kinda the
thing of pretty printing i want
15:28 < manveru> but if i do something like func p(object){
fmt.Fprintln(os.Stdout, "%v", object) }
15:29 < manveru> what's the type supposed to be?
15:29 < manveru> Interface{} or whatever that was?
15:29 < manveru> func p(object Interface{}){ gives me a syntax error
15:29 < Kashia> well, for Fprintln() it is probably using varargs
15:30 < Kashia> lowercase.  interface{}
15:30 < manveru> ah, perfect
15:33 < manveru> and how comes the Fprintln function can take anything?
15:33 < manveru> ah, it takes interface{} too
15:34 < Kashia> its definition is pobably: func Fprintf(i os.File, fmt
string, args ...)
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15:34 < manveru> yeah, kinda
15:35 < Kashia> ah, args ...interface{}
15:36 < manveru> http://golang.org/src/pkg/fmt/print.go#L781
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15:37 < Kashia> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/197179/
15:37 < Kashia> that looks kida what you're after?
15:37 < Kashia> it isn't really a ruby p() but it comes reasonably close
15:38 < manveru> yeah
15:38 < Kashia> and it probably only works for a single value now..
15:38 < manveru> sorry, it's just what i'm used to for debugging
15:39 < manveru> i assume there's no repl yet?
15:39 < Kashia> don't apologize, I use printf style debugging too :P
15:39 < Kashia> I think they began one...  there is a Go evaluator somewhere
included
15:41 < manveru> i think i actually prefer %#v
15:41 < Kashia> oh, nice.  that I didn't know
15:43 < manveru> hmm
15:43 < manveru> now i get segfaults again
15:43 < Kashia> do paste?
15:43 < manveru> http://pastr.it/16746
15:44 < Kashia> 0x4..
15:44 < Kashia> are you sure that grammar and error are both there?
15:44 < manveru> error is nil
15:44 < Kashia> I mean, I would only print grammar if there is no error
15:45 < manveru> you can try with only one argument to p
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15:46 < Kashia> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/197183/
15:46 < Kashia> like that it doesn't segfault
15:46 < Kashia> so apparently it died on a non-existant error
15:47 < manveru> but i can do like p(grammar); p(error)
15:47 < manveru> and it works
15:47 < Kashia> it also works with "%s %#v"
15:48 < manveru> right
15:48 < Kashia> so I guess it can't handle nil arguments without a % in the
format string
15:48 < manveru> that's unfortunate...
15:48 < Kashia> well, you could build the format string
15:49 < manveru> but then i'd have to know the incoming types
15:49 < manveru> no thanks
15:49 < Kashia> nope, just %#v
15:49 < manveru> yeah, but then i'd start out making it prettier :)
15:50 < manveru> it's enough to have a message and object for now
15:50 < Kashia> well, there is always room for improvement :P
15:50 < manveru> i'll just make p require two arguments
15:50 < manveru> yeah
15:51 < manveru> still not as fast to write as: `p foo: foo`, but good
enough for now
15:51 < manveru> now i just have to find out what to do with a ebnf.Grammar
thingy
15:52 < Kashia> well, you can validate it :P
15:52 < Kashia> I was utterly disappointed when I discovered what its used
for
15:52 < manveru> oO
15:53 < manveru> good thing i didn't actually spend much time on that then
:)
15:53 < Kashia> well, it depends on what you want to use it for ;) the Go
creators use it to double check their ebnf of go for errors.  at least that's what
my impressio is
15:54 < Kashia> impression*
15:54 < manveru> yeah
15:54 < manveru> well, right now i have the syntax of oxid written in
stringscanner style for ruby and neko
15:55 < manveru> so i don't have an ebnf for it yet
15:55 < manveru> and i'm not sure it's possible to express as one
15:56 < manveru> seems like go uses the same approach
15:56 < manveru> http://golang.org/src/pkg/go/scanner/scanner.go
15:58 < Kashia> well, maybe you can even reuse the scanner?
16:01 < manveru> no, it doesn't seem like their scanner has any way of
associating the original source with the tokens
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16:02 < Kashia> ah
16:02 < manveru> i'd like to be able to keep the original in memory
16:02 < Kashia> *nod*
16:02 < manveru> go doesn't have to care :)
16:03 < manveru> http://pastr.it/16747
16:04 < manveru> that's the one in neko
16:05 < manveru> doesn't look too bad for such a minimal language
16:10 < manveru> of course, i had to implement the Buffer, StringScanner,
and Tuple there, but still
16:10 < Kashia> well, you'll probably need something similar in Go too
16:10 < manveru> you got a quick example of writing specs?
16:11 < Kashia> unsure if there's already a string-scanner
16:11 < Kashia> there is a Spec testing lib somewhere
16:11 < Kashia> I just do regular testing
16:12 < Kashia> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/197191/
16:13 < Kashia> but, see the Go tutorial for a quick introduction to testing
16:13 < manveru> http://github.com/orfjackal/gospec ?
16:14 < Kashia>
http://golang.org/doc/go_programming_faq.html#Packages_Testing
16:15 < Kashia> yeah maybe, they didn't look too interesting to me
16:15 < Kashia> too verbose
16:15 < manveru> indeed
16:15 < manveru> i think i'll start with
http://golang.org/pkg/testing/quick/
16:16 < manveru> don't really feel comfortable without doing tests first
16:17 < Kashia> hehe :)
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16:25 < manveru> hrm
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16:26 < manveru> did the syntax for import change?
16:26 < manveru> doesn't look like
16:29 < manveru> wtf
16:29 < manveru> return(1 * 2) says "too many arguments to return"
16:30 < KirkMcDonald> manveru: Does the function have a return type?
16:30 < manveru> func b(x int){ return(x * 2) }
16:30 < KirkMcDonald> Then no.
16:30 < manveru> i assume go knows enough to know it's an int?
16:31 < manveru> might be a bignum if there's such a thing in go
16:31 < KirkMcDonald> func b(x int) int { return x * 2 }
16:32 < manveru> ok...
16:32 < KirkMcDonald> Go does not infer the return types of functions.
16:32 < manveru> so there's no implicit typing or returning?
16:32 < KirkMcDonald> Correct.
16:32 < manveru> :(
16:33 < KirkMcDonald> I do recommend just reading the Go spec.
16:34 < manveru> KirkMcDonald: do you have experience with quick.CheckEqual?
16:35 < KirkMcDonald> No.
16:35 < KirkMcDonald> I don't even know what 'quick' is.
16:35 < KirkMcDonald> Oh, testing/quick.
16:36 < manveru> it's from testing/quick
16:37 < KirkMcDonald> Never used it.
16:37 < KirkMcDonald> Fuzz testing is fun, though.
16:38 < manveru> oh, it's about that?
16:38 < KirkMcDonald> So far as I can tell.  It calls stuff with random
inputs.
16:38 < manveru> sorry, i had no idea what black box means in that case
16:39 < manveru> so there is no testing framework in the go distribution?
16:39 < KirkMcDonald> There is testing.
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16:40 < manveru> Kashia pointed me to
http://golang.org/doc/go_programming_faq.html#Packages_Testing
16:40 < manveru> but it doesn't really tell me what goes inside that TestFoo
16:40 < KirkMcDonald> Why not go to the source?
http://golang.org/pkg/testing/
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16:41 < manveru> thanks, i didn't realize that namespace was actually a
package itself
16:41 < Kashia> manveru, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/197202/
16:41 < Kashia> inside there is something like this
16:42 < Kashia> t.Error() calls when tests fail
16:42 < KirkMcDonald> Here are my optparse package's unit tests:
http://code.google.com/p/optparse-go/source/browse/optparse_test.go
16:43 < manveru> thank you :)
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16:44 < manveru> KirkMcDonald: i definitely like assertEqual better than
Kashias checking for nil all over the place :)
16:45 < Kashia> granted, I could encapsulate all my checks a little, yes ;)
16:45 < KirkMcDonald> I took inspiration from Python's unittest module:
http://docs.python.org/library/unittest#testcase-objects
16:46 < manveru> KirkMcDonald: exactly
16:46 < KirkMcDonald> assertEqual has the useful property of printing the
actual values which were not equal.
16:46 < manveru> though i don't know python that well, but i'm familiar
enough with unit-testing from ruby
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17:04 < manveru> KirkMcDonald: thanks again, i have my first failing tests
:D
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18:23 < sfuentes> anyone know how to use gofmt to remove the semicolons in a
program?
18:25 < nocturnal> all semicolons?
18:25 < nocturnal> perl -pi -e 's/;//g' *.go
18:25 < nocturnal> or just use sed
18:25 < nocturnal> or even tr
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18:33 < kmeyer> nocturnal: that's bad for for loops ;)
18:34 < kmeyer> sfuentes: gofmt -w foo.go # should do it
18:35 < nocturnal> heh
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18:48 < sfuentes> awesome.  thanks gentlemen
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22:25 < Soultaker> Hi everyone.  Can anyone tell me why this won't compile?
http://pastebin.com/DyNMTDgy
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22:37 < KirkMcDonald> Soultaker: Your type 'foo' does not include the method
set of type *List.
22:37 < KirkMcDonald> http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Type_declarations
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