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00:53 < bawr> Just for the record, the shortest way to get the last element
of an array of strings is array[len(array)-1]?
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01:13 < nf> bawr: yes
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01:15 < kmeyer> bawr: keep in mind len() is O(1) in Go
01:16 < kmeyer> oh, you mean shortest code, not fastest :P
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01:24 < bawr> :D
01:24 < bawr> Yeah, I still have muscle memory of Python's array[-1].
01:24 < kmeyer> makes sense :)
01:24 < kmeyer> I like the negative indexes syntax too
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01:38 < bawr> Uhh, if GOMAXPROCS defaults to one, doesn't that pretty much
hide most parallel bugs?  :)
01:45 < nf> bawr: in a sense, yes
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01:50 < bawr> I mean, people are in for some nasty surprises when the new 8c
defaults to spreading goroutines around as a default.
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01:58 < nf> 8g you mean?
01:58 < nf> and yes, probably
01:58 < nf> but this is to be expected :)
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01:58 < nf> are you referring to instances where people are performing
unsafe stuff that's currently safe because it all happens serially?
01:59 < nf> like, updating a map structure wihtout a lock, etc?
01:59 < nf> or something else?
02:03 < bawr> What you said, actually.
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05:19 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bpaBk by [Christopher Wedgwood] in
go/src/pkg/json/ -- json: update documentation to match current coding style
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08:03 < manveru> Can someone tell me the right way to use bytes.NewBuffer
for a NewCBCEncrypter?
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08:06 < jessta> manveru: what are you trying to do?
08:06 < jessta> func NewCBCEncrypter(c Cipher, iv []byte, w io.Writer)
io.Writer
08:07 < manveru> Trying to encrypt and decrypt a string
08:07 < jessta> bytes.Buffer is an io.Writer, so you can pass it in to
NewCBCEncrypter
08:07 < manveru> Yeah
08:08 < manveru> But i seem to get nothing in the output
08:08 < jessta> output?
08:08 < manveru> w
08:09 < jessta> did you write stuff to the io.Writer you get returned fom
NewCBCEncrypter()?
08:09 < manveru> I use io.WriteString(encrypter, mystring)
08:14 < jessta> alrighty, and you get nothing in the original bytes.Buffer?
08:15 < jessta> pastebin your code
08:15 < manveru> Exactly
08:16 < manveru> One minute, I'm on my phone
08:19 < manveru> http://gist.github.com/363381
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08:20 < manveru> Just starting out with go, would be immensely helpful if
the docs for cryptography had at least one example of usage
08:22 < jessta> manveru: probably shouldn't be converting the encrpyted
buffer in to a string
08:22 < jessta> go strings are utf8 encoded
08:22 < manveru> Oh
08:23 < jessta> better leaving it as a byte[]
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08:25 < manveru> Still no go
08:26 < manveru> Err, it doesn't work
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08:26 < manveru> You tried it?
08:27 < jessta> also you shouldn't ignore the return values from
io.WrtieString
08:27 < jessta> maybe there is an error they you're not seeing
08:28 < manveru> No errors there
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08:32 < manveru> I've tried lots of variations over the past 5 hours...
just can't think of what would cause this behavior
08:33 < bawr> manveru: Implement your own writer / reader.  See if it gets
called.
08:34 < bawr> That's a tad radical, but then you can be sure.
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08:36 < manveru> It does something if the msg is longer
08:37 < bawr> Uhh.  Buffering.
08:37 < bawr> It says that the default buffer length depends on the cipher,
in the docs.
08:37 < bawr> So you need to pad your messages.
08:38 < manveru> How do i do that without modifying the original contents?
08:38 < defectiv> i don't get this.  foo := new(Blah);
print(foo.ThingWithADefault); == nothing output
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08:39 < bawr> manveru: Well, ideally you'd want to use a padding scheme, but
I don't think there's any implemented.
08:39 < defectiv> if a struct has a field like blah int 42, that means 42 is
default right?
08:39 < bawr> So basically, adding \0 bytes until the message has a minimum
length works.
08:39 < jessta> defectiv: no defaults
08:39 < manveru> :(
08:40 < defectiv> what are the third values then?
08:40 < defectiv> like this type Result struct { XMLName xml.Name "result";
08:40 < bawr> defectiv: Quoting the docs for the encrypter...
08:41 < bawr> "The returned Writer does no buffering except as required by
the cipher's block size, so there is no need for a Flush method."
08:41 < jessta> defectiv: it's a label
08:41 < defectiv> hrm..  label huh?
08:42 < bawr> *manveru
08:42 < bawr> But erh, a bit of fail that padding isn't implemented in the
stdlib, not that it's very hard to add.
08:43 < Zoopee> defectiv: http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Struct_types
08:44 < jessta> defectiv: oh, yeah, it's a 'tag'
08:45 < bawr> manveru: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padding_(cryptography)
should get you going.  :)
08:45 < manveru> Thx
08:45 < manveru> bbl
08:47 < jessta> bawr: you couldn't really add the padding to the stdlib, how
would you know when to pad?
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08:52 < bawr> It could be added as separate readers / writers, for one
thing, adding padding on a .Close() call or something.  They'd take a parameter at
initialisation, telling them the block boundary (read from Cipher.BlockSize()).
That's one idea.  If you want it more robust, make a rule to pad a whole block if
the message happened to end neatly on a block boundary.
08:52 < bawr> I'm not at all saying this should be implemented into the
current cryptographic functions.
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08:54 < bawr> Of course, the PadingWriter / PaddingReader implemented like
that would still be buffering to the block size.
08:54 < bawr> Anyway, this is just a quick idea, I'm sure it could be
improved upon.
08:55 < jessta> I guess so
08:55 < manveru> bawr: i switched to CTR, now it works: )
08:55 < bawr> manveru: Yeah, CTR is nice like that.
08:56 < manveru> Sorry for the confusion, new to go and crypto
08:59 < bawr> Eh, no problem.  New to Go myself.
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09:03 < manveru> Seems like NewBuffer(make([]byte, 0)) is faster than
NewBufferString(msg) with Reset
09:04 < bawr> Makes sense.
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09:06 < defectiv> i wish this would just show a working example of Marshal
instead of being so cryptic.  http://golang.org/pkg/json/#Marshal
09:06 < manveru> How do i tell the Makefile to generate a binary?
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09:08 < bawr> defectiv: It's not cryptic.  interface{} is a fancy way of
saying "any object".
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09:14 < defectiv> but i have to create an io.Writer object apparently.
09:14 < defectiv> i just did var w io.Writer
09:15 < defectiv> but that gives me a seg fault.  hrm, maybe because it's
null or whatever.
09:15 < manveru> w := bytes.NewBufferString("")
09:16 < defectiv> oh, io.Writer is just an interface
09:16 < manveru> io.Writer is an interface
09:16 < defectiv> echo?
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09:17 < manveru> Sorry, cannot see the screen while typing
09:17 < bawr> You should learn to touch-type, then.  ;)
09:17 < manveru> On a phone?
09:18 < manveru> The onscreen keyboard hides the channel log
09:18 < bawr> IRC on a phone?  Blasphemy.
09:18 < manveru> Lol
09:18 < jessta> manveru: get a real computer
09:18 < bawr> I mean, I know it can be done, but it brings you no glory.  ;)
09:19 < manveru> i can only proxy http and ash through my phone
09:19 < manveru> Ssh
09:19 < defectiv> okay, now how do i get m json string from this w?
09:20 < manveru> w.String()
09:20 < defectiv> doesn't print() automatically call String() ?
09:21 < manveru> It does
09:21 < bawr> You asked how to get a string, not how to print it.  ;P
09:21 < defectiv> nope.
09:21 < defectiv> changing adding String() worked.
09:21 < defectiv> apparently print does not call it automatically.
09:21 < defectiv> i don't see any Marshal method in the xml package,
strangely.
09:22 < defectiv> json is better than xml except that it lacks an "xpath"
09:22 < manveru> Hegel
09:22 < defectiv> who's Hegel?
09:22 < manveru> Damn autocorrect
09:22 < bawr> Err, if you're doing marshalling, normally you wouldn't need
that much.
09:23 < defectiv> well, you need a Marshall function.
09:23 < defectiv> which it seems to totally lack.
09:23 < manveru> Try to get three people to agree how the XML should be
structured
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09:23 < defectiv> :)
09:24 < defectiv> i worked for livenation.com for a long time and it's all
xslt and xml.  i was their primary xslt guru.
09:24 < jessta> defectiv: printf might call String()
09:24 < defectiv> sounds plausible.
09:25 < jessta> defectiv: don't use print() anyway
09:26 < defectiv> why not?
09:26 < jessta> it's likely to disappear
09:27 < defectiv> the function?
09:28 < jessta> http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Bootstrapping
09:28 < defectiv> need to get to bed but i'll read it sometime.
09:29 < jessta> print() doesn't return anything, so you can't check for
error
09:29 < jessta> so don't use it to output anything that is important
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17:06 < xenor> =O
17:14 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bpOBh by [Rob Pike] in go/ -- CLA: Andrei
Vieru
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17:31 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bpPCQ by [Andrei Vieru] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ --
fmt format verb %b bug
17:31 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bpPCU by [Christopher Wedgwood] in
go/src/pkg/xml/ -- xml: update documentation to match current coding style
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