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00:00 < stage2> http://www2.research.att.com/~bs/interviews.html
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00:19 < uriel> exch: does it matter if it is 'real' or not?  what it says in
it is true enough
00:20 < exch> oh I absolutely agree that c++ is the spawn of satan himself,
but still it would have added that extra bit of 'See, I knew it!!' feeling :p
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01:03 < hstimer> what is the minimum byte overhead for a go routine and
channel?
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01:10 < uriel> hstimer: what you mean by 'minimum byte overhead'?
01:13 < hstimer> when you do 'go foo()' there is some kind of data structure
created to hold a reference to foo() and various go routine stuff.  How big is it?
01:13 < hstimer> and how big is a channel with nothing in it?
01:14 < hstimer> this is the basic programming model overhead that if you
were creating a simulation with millions of go routines
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11:03 < micrypt> Is there anything resembling a Go style guide?
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11:04 < JBeshir> micrypt: gofmt
11:05 < JBeshir> Instead of a document prone to human interpretation, gofmt
takes code in and spits good code out.
11:05 < micrypt> JBeshir: Thanks
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11:24 < exch> also helpful for auto-fixing your existing code when something
has changed in a new release
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11:55 < fenicks> hello
12:06 < exch> ello
12:08 < micrypt> llo
12:09 < andreer> lo
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15:26 < micrypt> Hi, looking for guidance on resources related to basic
authentication in Go. Any suggestions?
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15:33 < uriel> micrypt: you mean http's basic auth?  or something else?
15:33 < micrypt> uriel: http basic auth
15:34 < micrypt> uriel: looking through go-twitter's implementation now
though.  I think I should be okay.  Thanks.
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16:20 < nocturnal> http://pastebin.com/5MhpQ4pJ i'm trying to learn how you
replaced the select(2) procedure of adding file descriptors to poll, using
goroutines.  but i'm failing to understand how they're used.  can anyone give me
some pointers?
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16:28 < kimelto> morning!
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16:30 < nocturnal> good evening to you kimelto =)
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16:36 < jessta> nocturnal: get rid of that for{} and put it in _read and
_write around the switch
16:36 < jessta> nocturnal: something like, http://pastebin.com/EVpSEzrr
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16:49 < nocturnal> jessta: thank you, you have been very helpful on the
mailing list too, i recognize your nick name =)
16:50 < nocturnal> so basically i need channels, even if i don't want to
communicate data, i need them to wait
16:50 < nocturnal> i thought i'd be able to do it without channels, at least
for simple i/o
16:52 < jessta> it's just that when the main goroutine finishes it kills all
the other goroutines
16:53 < jessta> so you have to block it with something
16:54 < jessta> you could just remove the 'go' from one of the calls to
_read() or _write()
16:54 < nocturnal> ok i see, i'll give it another shot.  thank you.  i'm
just used to looping forever and polling but i guess you're moving away from this
model with goroutines.
16:55 < nocturnal> one thing i don't understand about your code on pastebin,
how do the spawned goroutines know about exitchan?  is that some sort of standard
name?
16:56 < nocturnal> i really need to learn more about channels
16:56 < jessta> nah
16:57 < nocturnal> looks like a trick to make the main goroutine wait, as if
exitchan doesn't do anything but wait because there is no one that uses it.
16:57 < jessta> yep
16:57 < nocturnal> oh i see
16:58 < jessta> it's reading from a channel that will never be writen too
16:58 < jessta> so it will block forever
16:58 < nocturnal> so if a goroutine wrote to this exitchan the main routine
would exit
16:58 < nocturnal> thanks for that explanation, it helped a great deal
16:59 < jessta> if something wrote to the exitchan the main goroutine would
continue and exit
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17:09 < nocturnal> works perfectly now jessta, i appreciate your patience
with me =) i made catchInterrupt return by setting the wait channel to true
instead of using os.Exit, also put the read and write operations in for loops
within their indivudal functions, i call the first with a goroutine and let the
second run in the main routine.  works perfectly
17:09 < nocturnal> finally i learned that.
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17:47 < az_ordog_maga> aloha
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17:48 < az_ordog_maga> anybody?
17:49 < jessta> az_ordog_maga: hi
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17:59 < az_ordog_maga> what is the prefered programer's editor for the go?
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17:59 < nocturnal> whatever you work best in would be my answer =D
18:00 < az_ordog_maga> :D
18:00 < nocturnal> but if you look in $GOROOT/misc you'll see some files for
various editors
18:00 < nocturnal> so one of those editors would have better golang support
than others
18:00 < nocturnal> for example i use vim with the supplied vim syntax file
from the golang developers.
18:01 < az_ordog_maga> hmm
18:01 < az_ordog_maga> vim is ok for me
18:02 < az_ordog_maga> can u use the dbms with go?
18:02 < hstimer> textmate
18:02 < az_ordog_maga> nope teddyos
18:03 < az_ordog_maga> :)
18:04 < hstimer> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/text-editors/
18:05 < jessta> az_ordog_maga: dbms?
18:05 < hstimer> I use this bundle --
http://github.com/AlanQuatermain/go-tmbundle
18:07 < az_ordog_maga> dbms like mysql postgresql
18:08 < jessta> az_ordog_maga: http://go-lang.cat-v.org/pure-go-libs
18:09 < az_ordog_maga> ok ok
18:09 < az_ordog_maga> open the link:)
18:10 < az_ordog_maga> thx for the answers
18:10 < az_ordog_maga> this is a good community quick and friendly:)
18:12 < jessta> yeah, we're here every week, tell your friends
18:18 < az_ordog_maga> hmm hmm
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21:12 < gpciceri> hi all, any goconf expert here?
21:16 < gpciceri> I've found that if a configuration file ends with an empty
line, the reader freezes
21:17 < gpciceri> and I'd like to know if anyone has already found this
behaviour
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21:51 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bywQ2 by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/json/ --
json: scanner, Compact, Indent, and tests
21:51 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bywQb by [Michael Hoisie] in go/src/pkg/net/
-- net: fix bugs in packStructValue
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22:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/byz6N by [Raif S. Naffah] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- reflect: add FieldByNameFunc
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23:01 < pvh> Has anyone looked at netchan since Rob Pike made the
connections bidirectional a few days ago?
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23:24 < exch> he did?  nice
23:24 < exch> should check it out
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