--- Log opened Thu May 06 00:00:56 2010 00:04 -!- Nexoro [~nexo@c-71-192-75-183.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts [] 00:05 < uriel> yay! 00:14 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 00:16 < chaos95> Hi folks, went to Andrew Gerrand's presentation on Go at RMIT last night and it piqued my interest; next step: convince my boss that Go is a decent option for re-implementing our lumbering, legacy-laden flagship product 00:16 < chaos95> wish me luck :P 00:16 < Tonnerre> RMIT, wasn't that in Melbourne? 00:16 < chaos95> yep 00:17 < Tonnerre> Awesome! Greetings over there, I'm hoping to be able to drop by again in November 00:17 < Tonnerre> And I do wish you luck 00:17 < chaos95> Cheers :) 00:20 < kmeyer> chaos95: do you know if that was recorded at all? 00:21 < chaos95> kmeyer: there was a camera present, as well as a dictaphone. I'm assuming they were recording on GTUG Melbourne's behalf 00:23 < kmeyer> I'll do some googling I guess :) 00:27 < chaos95> I'm assuming it wouldn't be up yet, but you might have more luck later today 00:29 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@cpe-72-177-26-221.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:41 < kmeyer> yeah, I don't see it yet 00:41 < kmeyer> thanks :) 00:44 < uriel> chaos95: oh, awesome, I had asked Andrew if it was going to be recorded but he thought it wouldn't, cool to see it was recorded in the end! 00:46 <+iant> I think he is doing the same presentation again in a couple of weeks at Google I/O, and that one at least should be recorded 00:48 < kmeyer> heh, no worries 00:51 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.105.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:07 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:16 -!- BrowserUk [~irc1_20_B@78.149.241.231] has left #go-nuts [] 01:18 -!- Arbiza [~Arbiza@201-34-92-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 01:18 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has joined #go-nuts 01:34 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:43 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:47 -!- rv2733 [~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:49 < exch> anyone have ideas why this behaves the way it does? http://www.gopaste.net/?id=1567 01:49 < exch> specifically, repl2() is consistently a lot slower than repl1() 01:51 -!- meatmanek [~meatmanek@mesingw.student.cwru.edu] has joined #go-nuts 01:52 < exch> results are always around 15000ns vs 22000ns on my machine 01:54 -!- BrowserUk [~irc1_20_B@78.149.247.24] has joined #go-nuts 01:56 -!- aho [~nya@g226204236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION] 02:04 -!- tor5 [~tor@c-457171d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: tor5] 02:06 -!- BrowserUk [~irc1_20_B@78.149.247.24] has left #go-nuts [] 02:12 < jessta> exch: more allocations 02:13 < exch> How is that? 02:13 < jessta> haystack = haystack[0:p] + replacement + haystack[p+len(needle):] 02:14 < exch> 'ret += haystack[0:p] + replacement' is faster than 'ret += haystack[0:p]; ret += replacement' So if that's the case, than 'haystack = haystack[0:p] + replacement + haystack[p+len(needle):]' should be even faster 02:15 < exch> unless there is a problem with assigning all that to haystack instead of 'ret' 02:15 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:17 -!- segy [~segfault@pdpc/supporter/active/segy] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:17 < jessta> either way, you shouldn't use strings like that 02:17 < jessta> get yourself a bytes.Buffer 02:18 < jessta> doing ret += haystack[0:p] requires ret to be copied and reallocated 02:19 < jessta> and the previous ret to be gc'ed 02:19 < exch> hope it's faster than this stuff, cos i'm fresh out of ideas to make it faster. 02:19 * exch tests 02:20 < jessta> exch: strings are immutatable in Go 02:20 < exch> that does explain why it's so terribly slow 02:22 < jessta> and with the +, I think you're allocating and copying the slice(haystack[0:p]) to a string and then copying that again to the ret string 02:23 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has joined #go-nuts 02:24 < chaos95> have you tried a split and join? 02:25 < exch> not yet 02:28 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 -!- datamonger [~datamonge@75.142.254.130] has joined #go-nuts 02:34 -!- apefish [~apefish@S0106000d3a2d34de.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:39 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:39 -!- Arbiza [~Arbiza@201-34-92-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Arbiza] 02:42 < chaos95> is there any way to get the build process to bypass the http tests? 02:43 < chaos95> they don't pay any attention to my http_proxy environment variable, and consequently time out on any http requests outside this network 02:43 < chaos95> (which is, you know, all of them :D) 02:45 < jessta> chaos95: you can build without running the tests 02:46 < jessta> or kill the process when it gets to the tests 02:46 < chaos95> oh it installs first? 02:46 < chaos95> nifty 02:48 < exch> -.- looks like this is actually the fastest approach. http://www.gopaste.net/?id=1568 02:48 < exch> no need for a buffer 02:48 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:48 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 02:48 < exch> it's still a pretty costly operation 02:48 < jessta> chaos95: I think they are going to remove the requirement for network connectivity to test the http soon 02:49 < chaos95> jessta: yeah I saw some tickets related to it; here's hoping. 02:50 < chaos95> 13000 ns 02:50 < chaos95> 20000 ns 02:50 < chaos95> 7000 ns 02:51 < chaos95> quite a bit faster, huh exch? 02:51 < exch> i'm getting about 4k improvement 02:54 < exch> make that 10k 02:54 < exch> 16000 ns 02:54 < exch> 21000 ns 02:54 < exch> 6000 ns 02:55 < exch> more than 50% speed increase. I'll settle for that 02:59 < exch> the bh:= bit can be omitted to really 02:59 -!- ikke [~ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [] 02:59 < exch> if you inline the entire thing it'll shave off another 1k 03:00 < exch> string(bytes.Join(bytes.Split([]byte(haystack), []byte(needle), 0), []byte(replacement))) <- winner 03:02 -!- apefish [~apefish@S0106000d3a2d34de.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 < jessta> the compiler should eventually be able to do that for you 03:07 < chaos95> the gcc backend probably already does 03:18 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:27 -!- myrddian [~myrddian@hqrouter.vpac.org] has joined #go-nuts 03:32 -!- MizardX [~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:07 -!- divoxx_ [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has joined #go-nuts 04:08 -!- warthurton [~warthurto@pdpc/supporter/active/warthurton] has quit [Quit: warthurton] 04:10 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@204.152.215.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:12 -!- divoxx_ [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:12 -!- andbelo [~andbelo@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:14 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 04:15 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has left #go-nuts [] 04:16 -!- andbelo [~andbelo@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts [] 04:16 -!- andbelo [~andbelo@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:18 -!- andbelo [~andbelo@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts [] 04:20 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@204.152.215.146] has joined #go-nuts 04:28 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@187.58.245.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:38 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@187.58.245.214] has joined #go-nuts 04:48 -!- caw [skyyy@phonzdesktop.rh.rit.edu] has quit [] 04:49 -!- tazjin [~tazjin@p5DC83F2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:52 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:53 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has joined #go-nuts 04:57 -!- myrddian_ [~myrddian@hqrouter.vpac.org] has joined #go-nuts 04:57 -!- myrddian [~myrddian@hqrouter.vpac.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:58 -!- divoxx_ [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has joined #go-nuts 04:59 -!- divoxx_ [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has quit [Client Quit] 05:02 -!- adamjiang [~jcadam_@KD113150081243.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 05:02 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@204.152.215.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:03 -!- scm [justme@c132162.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:04 -!- scm [justme@c222075.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 05:04 -!- tazjin [~tazjin@p5DC83F2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:07 -!- tazjin [~tazjin@p5DC83F2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:17 -!- XeonPaul [~chatzilla@222.73.189.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24 -!- tazjin [~tazjin@p5DC83F2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 05:35 -!- tvw [~tv@e182073103.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 05:39 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:46 -!- General1337 [~support@71-93-96-131.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:49 -!- General13372 [~support@71-93-96-131.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:52 -!- XeonPaul [~chatzilla@222.73.189.44] has joined #go-nuts 05:53 -!- myrddian_ [~myrddian@hqrouter.vpac.org] has quit [Quit: myrddian_] 05:59 -!- warthurton [~warthurto@pdpc/supporter/active/warthurton] has joined #go-nuts 06:02 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 06:03 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06 -!- viirya [~viirya@cml506-25.csie.ntu.edu.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:07 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 06:08 -!- rhino9 [rhino9@89.218.17.250] has joined #go-nuts 06:08 < exch> I'm modifying a fair amount of stuff to use byte arrays instead of strings and so far the speed increase is rather mind boggling O.o 06:09 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #go-nuts 06:10 < KirkMcDonald> Are these arrays being mutated? 06:10 < exch> processing of a fair chunk of script code goes from about 1.2 ms to 0.047ms 06:10 -!- tvw [~tv@e182073103.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 < chaos95> KirkMcDonald: oh hey, I know you! :P 06:10 < exch> I'm using the bytes package. 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11:13 < wrtp> chressie: you can't use '&' on (for instance) a value returned from a function 11:14 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-178-184-39.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:14 < wrtp> manveru: why do you want methods on interfaces? 11:14 -!- adamjiang [~jcadam_@KD113150081243.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: さようなら] 11:14 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-185-17.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:14 < manveru> wrtp: so i can build on them easier 11:15 < wrtp> manveru: ? 11:15 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-109-64-184-119.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:15 < manveru> heh 11:15 < wrtp> you can easily define functions that take interfaces as arguments. 11:15 < manveru> yes, i know 11:15 < wrtp> for instance: io.ReadAtLeast 11:15 < manveru> but it would be really nice to call them on the interface 11:16 < wrtp> i mean ReadAtMost 11:16 < wrtp> it would be really confusing - like mixing virtual and non-virtual methods 11:16 < wrtp> go doesn't do that 11:16 < manveru> virtual and what? 11:16 < manveru> how is it confusing? 11:17 < wrtp> anyway, you can put methods on interfaces 11:17 < wrtp> just wrap the interface in a struct 11:17 < manveru> structs can embed interfaces? 11:17 < wrtp> yes 11:17 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-130.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:18 < wrtp> e.g. type T struct {io.Reader} 11:18 < wrtp> then you can define methods on T 11:18 < manveru> oh my 11:18 < wrtp> but T inherits all the methods in Reader 11:18 < chressie> wrtp: sure (i was still in the receiver context) 11:18 < manveru> wrtp: thanks a lot 11:18 < wrtp> you can include as many interfaces as you want that way too... 11:19 < manveru> yeah 11:19 < wrtp> manveru: does that scratch your itch? 11:19 < manveru> i will try it 11:19 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-185-17.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:20 < manveru> but sounds pretty good :) 11:20 < manveru> do you mind another silly question? 11:20 < wrtp> nope 11:20 < wrtp> go ahead 11:21 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-67-184-211.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:21 < manveru> if i have something like 'type Vect struct { x, y int }; type Vector interface { X() int; Y() int }' 11:21 < manveru> and i'd really like to make x and y public 11:21 < wrtp> yeah 11:21 < manveru> but then they will collide with the naming 11:22 < wrtp> yeah, you'd have to choose different names 11:22 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-130.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:22 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.66.186.144] has joined #go-nuts 11:22 < manveru> that's a pity :| 11:22 < wrtp> otherwise the compiler wouldn't know whether you wanted the field or the method 11:22 < manveru> the compiler knows... 11:23 < manveru> it always tells me 'you try to use a field as a method' and the other way round 11:23 < manveru> well, something along the lines, i'd have to dig up the real message 11:24 < wrtp> if you've named a field X and a method X also, and i say: v := Vect{1,2}.X 11:24 < wrtp> what is the type of v ? 11:24 < wrtp> is it a function or an integer? 11:24 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.141] has quit [] 11:25 < manveru> hmh 11:25 < manveru> right, the issue of optional parenthesis 11:25 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-67-184-211.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:25 < wrtp> not really 11:26 < manveru> sorry, i'm coming from ruby 11:26 < manveru> we would do Vect{1,2}.method('X') or the like to get the method 11:26 < wrtp> i see 11:26 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@0x5da69cf2.cpe.ge-0-1-0-1105.hsnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. 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:) 11:31 < wrtp> so point.x is the same as point.x() ? 11:31 < manveru> exactly 11:31 < manveru> the parenthesis are optional 11:31 < wrtp> is that true of local variables too? 11:31 < manveru> no 11:32 < manveru> local variables is where it gets messy :) 11:32 < wrtp> i se 11:32 < wrtp> e 11:32 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-189.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:32 < manveru> so you can say 'x = point.x; return x' and it will return point.x 11:33 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-130.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:33 < manveru> but if you say 'return x', it will try to call the method x on self 11:33 < manveru> go doesn't really have an implicit receiver, so that's different 11:33 < wrtp> oh jeez, i hate implicit self referencing 11:34 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-171.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:34 < wrtp> anyway, i see where you're coming from, but you just need to know that fields and methods live in the same namespace and are different things 11:35 < manveru> yeah, i understand 11:35 < wrtp> but... 11:36 < wrtp> you can always define methods at a higher level, and there's no clash 11:36 < manveru> yes 11:36 < manveru> that's something i still have to get used to 11:37 < manveru> ruby really sucks at namespacing 11:37 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-189.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:37 < wrtp> so if you wanted to export your Vect as a Vector interface, you could define a new type just for the purpose. type VVect struct {v Vect}; func (vv VVect) X() int {return vv.v.X} 11:38 < wrtp> and make it more straightforward to use: func (v Vect) Vector() Vector {return VVect{v}} 11:39 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.189.16] has joined #go-nuts 11:39 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-171.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:39 < wrtp> go does namespacing really well. it makes for much less cluttered names 11:40 < manveru> heh 11:40 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-178-185-100.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:40 < manveru> i've been doing go for the past 3 weeks or so almost nonstop 11:40 < manveru> hopefully i'll get better soon... 11:41 < wrtp> what've you been doing with it? 11:41 < jessta> go is the C I always wanted 11:41 < manveru> wrote a couple of little games 11:41 < jessta> (and kept trying to make with macros) 11:42 < wrtp> using which gui interface? 11:42 < manveru> sdl 11:42 < manveru> i wrote to the ML, the game of life and pong are the ones that are presentable 11:43 < wrtp> ah, monsieur fellinger :-) 11:43 < manveru> the others are experiments or work in progress... it's pretty amazing how much faster go is than ruby 11:43 < manveru> yeah, that's me 11:44 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.184.211] has joined #go-nuts 11:44 -!- rhino9 [rhino9@92.47.249.24] has joined #go-nuts 11:44 < wrtp> have you got a link to sdl? 11:44 < wrtp> (the go package) 11:44 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-178-185-100.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:44 < manveru> http://github.com/banthar/Go-SDL 11:45 < manveru> for the past week or so i've been trying to translate the chipmunk physics engine from C to Go, but it teaches me more about C than Go... 11:45 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-177-184-224.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:47 * wrtp is trying to goinstall go-sdl 11:48 < manveru> that doesn't work 11:48 < manveru> it doesn't have an install task... goinstall will give you some weird error about 'no files' or something 11:48 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.184.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:49 < manveru> i've tried to get int touch with banthar, but so far no reaction 11:49 < wrtp> no it doesn't. i don't think there's a branch tagged "release", which goinstall seems to want 11:49 < manveru> *in 11:49 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-138.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:50 < manveru> the goinstall doc says it falls back to HEAD if no release branch is found 11:51 < manveru> but it needs a 'make install' task... Go-SDL does install on 'make' already 11:51 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-177-184-224.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:52 < manveru> well, at least that's my reasoning, i really don't know what's the issue since the error message is so confusing 11:52 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-138.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:53 < wrtp> thing is, it imported the source code just fine 11:54 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-138.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:55 -!- rhino9 [rhino9@92.47.249.24] has quit [] 11:55 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.66.186.241] has joined #go-nuts 11:57 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-138.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:57 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.66.185.82] has joined #go-nuts 11:57 < manveru> yeah... 11:57 < manveru> i wish it had a verbose switch 11:58 -!- mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:00 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.66.186.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:00 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-120.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:02 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.66.185.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.67.184.171] has joined #go-nuts 12:03 -!- az [~az@carrot.znaider.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-186-120.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:06 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.67.184.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:06 -!- az [~az@carrot.znaider.de] has joined #go-nuts 12:07 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.189.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:07 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-109-66-184-207.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:10 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-109-66-184-207.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10 -!- mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #go-nuts 12:10 -!- mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:11 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-132.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:13 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-183-184-226.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:14 -!- mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #go-nuts 12:15 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-132.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-64-184-92.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:16 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 12:17 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has left #go-nuts [] 12:17 -!- analogue [~analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has quit [] 12:17 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-183-184-226.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:19 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-171.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:20 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-64-184-92.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-65.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:20 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:21 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #go-nuts 12:21 < manveru> mitsuhiko: aloha :) 12:21 < mitsuhiko> hey manveru 12:21 -!- zcram [~zcram@67.140.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:23 < wrtp> manveru: it does have a verbose switch 12:23 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-171.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:23 < wrtp> it just doesn't show you much :-) 12:24 < wrtp> i just got go-sdl compiled under mac os... and it fails ("libcgo: could not obtain pthread_keys") 12:24 < wrtp> oh well 12:24 < manveru> hm, yeah, other people reported problems with osx as well 12:25 < wrtp> there was an initial problem with the way it used pkg_config 12:25 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-181-184-65.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:25 < wrtp> but even once compiled it doesn't work 12:25 < wrtp> hmm 12:25 < wrtp> pity 12:26 < wrtp> i'd like to have a go at using go to do some graphical stuff 12:26 < manveru> yeah... 12:26 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.184.97] has joined #go-nuts 12:26 < manveru> i'm thinking about how to implement world of sand in go/sdl 12:27 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-168.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:27 < wrtp> what's world of sand? 12:29 < manveru> something like this: http://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust/ 12:30 < manveru> you put lots of differnet element particles into a world and they interact 12:30 < manveru> not really realistic physics, but quite fun 12:30 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.198.231] has joined #go-nuts 12:31 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.184.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:31 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-189.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:32 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-168.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:32 < wrtp> cool 12:33 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-215.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:33 < manveru> the category is best known as 'falling sand game', i think 12:33 -!- tor5 [~tor@c-457171d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 12:33 < wrtp> hmm, the reason for sdl failing under os x is in the following nasty code: src/libcgo/darwin_386.c 12:34 -!- sauer [~sauer@p508CBD8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:36 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-189.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:37 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-182-184-215.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:38 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-180-184-98.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:42 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-180-184-98.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:43 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-180-184-112.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:46 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-177-184-126.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:48 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-180-184-112.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:53 -!- lux` [lucs@151.95.180.63] has joined #go-nuts 13:06 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@124.205.180.154] has quit [Quit: zyichi] 13:09 -!- thiago__ [~thiago@189.107.156.61] has joined #go-nuts 13:12 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.130] has joined #go-nuts 13:12 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.130] has quit [Changing host] 13:12 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@enlightenment/developer/cmarcelo] has joined #go-nuts 13:12 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.198.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:18 * wrtp got further getting sdl working, but it still crashes :-( 13:19 -!- ericvh [~ericvh@32.97.110.63] has joined #go-nuts 13:32 -!- terrex [~terrex@33.39.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #go-nuts 13:34 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@187.58.245.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@187.58.245.214] has joined #go-nuts 13:49 -!- terrex1 [~terrex@66.38.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #go-nuts 13:49 -!- terrex [~terrex@33.39.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:59 -!- Surma [~bzfsurma@gooseberry.zib.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:02 -!- mtg [~mtg@vollkornmail.dbk-nb.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:03 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@87.253.78.194] has joined #go-nuts 14:06 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has joined #go-nuts 14:11 -!- damjan [~damjan@legolas.on.net.mk] has joined #go-nuts 14:11 < damjan> Anyone knows of an equivalent Go idiom for Pythons dict.setdefault() 14:19 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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16:12 -!- JBeshir [~namegduf@eu.beshir.org] has quit [Quit: Client restart] 16:12 -!- Namegduf [~namegduf@eu.beshir.org] has joined #go-nuts 16:14 < JoLeClodo> no ? 16:14 -!- ct529 [~quassel@biolpc1758.york.ac.uk] has joined #go-nuts 16:20 < exch> you want to convert a string from c to go? 16:20 < exch> or vice-versa? 16:20 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@e179205046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 16:21 < JoLeClodo> found : http://github.com/eden/mysqlgo/blob/master/mysql/bound_data.go , function bytesForUnsafePointer 16:22 < exch> cgo has built-in functions for string conversions 16:23 < exch> 'foo := C.GoString(myCstring)' and 'bar := C.CString(myGoString)' 16:30 -!- ikke [~ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [] 16:30 -!- Ideal [~Ideal@ideal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:35 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 16:38 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.219] has joined #go-nuts 16:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bX7wt by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc: distinguish array, slice literal in error messages 16:40 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@ip68-227-143-68.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Quit: mattikus] 16:44 -!- Altercation [~Altercati@pdpc/supporter/active/altercation] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:44 -!- Altercation [~Altercati@pdpc/supporter/active/altercation] has joined #go-nuts 16:48 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51 -!- BrowserUk [~irc1_20_B@78.149.247.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 16:52 -!- tvw [~tv@e182073103.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:53 -!- barismetin [~barismeti@kde/developer/baris] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:59 -!- ct529 [~quassel@biolpc1758.york.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 < kimelto> morning! 17:00 < Ideal> evening! 17:01 -!- BrowserUk [~irc1_20_B@92.24.31.125] has joined #go-nuts 17:02 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-77-192.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:09 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-179-135.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #go-nuts 17:12 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 17:18 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Client Quit] 17:21 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21 < exch> Here's a licensing question: What kind of rules apply when you use Go as an interpreted scripting language? Or even a subset of it? 17:22 < exch> Apart from the go scanner/tokenizer most of the work will have to be written manually, but it's still the same language being used. 17:23 -!- Venom_X_ [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 17:24 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:29 -!- fenicks [~christian@log77-4-82-246-228-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:31 -!- idea_squirrel [~ct2rips@77-21-16-247-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 -!- eikenberry [~jae@mail.zhar.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.219] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 -!- General1337 [~support@71-93-96-131.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.219] has quit [Client Quit] 17:36 -!- aho [~nya@g227090231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:36 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 17:38 -!- terrex [~terrex@126.39.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #go-nuts 17:50 -!- arvindht [~7aaeaff7@gateway/web/freenode/x-vybunoybhzaloyjk] has joined #go-nuts 17:50 -!- Archwyrm [~archwyrm@66.249.8.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50 -!- rv2733 [~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:52 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has joined #go-nuts 17:55 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXdlh by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ -- gob: add test for indirect maps, slices, arrays. 17:56 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-177-184-126.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 17:57 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.168] has joined #go-nuts 18:05 -!- TenOfTen [~TenOfTen@c-fd25e555.04-18-73746f10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #go-nuts [] 18:09 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:10 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has quit [Quit: divoxx] 18:10 -!- arvindht [~7aaeaff7@gateway/web/freenode/x-vybunoybhzaloyjk] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13 -!- tumdum [~tumdum@unaffiliated/tumdum] has joined #go-nuts 18:17 -!- rv2733 [~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:23 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has joined #go-nuts 18:30 -!- smw [~stephen@pool-96-232-88-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30 <+iant> exch: all the Go code is open source under a BSD-style license 18:31 <+iant> You can see the exact terms in the LICENSE file at the top level of the source code 18:31 < exch> Yea i've read it. Not sure if that also applied to the language itself, or just the stuff writtin in it 18:31 < exch> *written 18:32 < exch> i'm not that good with lawyer talk ;) 18:32 <+iant> it applies to the all the source code that is part of the Go repository 18:32 <+iant> there are no restrictions on code that you write in Go 18:32 < exch> ok. That includes the parser then 18:32 <+iant> that is yours 18:32 <+iant> yes 18:32 < exch> cool :) 18:32 < exch> thanks 18:39 -!- Ideal [~Ideal@ideal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Quit: Ideal] 18:39 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 18:40 -!- comboy [~comboy@tesuji.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:40 -!- comboy [~comboy@tesuji.pl] has joined #go-nuts 18:43 -!- fenicks [~christian@log77-4-82-246-228-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #go-nuts [] 18:45 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 18:47 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 18:49 -!- slashus2 [~slashus2@74-137-24-74.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: slashus2] 18:49 -!- franksalim [~frank@adsl-75-61-84-181.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:50 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe [~nice@p5B14DA82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXhMt by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime.GOMAXPROCS: hack it to have it return the old value. 19:00 -!- sauer [~sauer@p508CBD8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:04 -!- pdusen [~pdusen@crob4-55.flint.umich.edu] has joined #go-nuts 19:08 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:09 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has joined #go-nuts 19:12 -!- Flo_ [~Flo@ip-62-143-11-185.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [] 19:18 -!- zcram [~zcram@67.140.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #go-nuts 19:19 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe [~nice@p5B14DA82.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #go-nuts ["Konversation terminated!"] 19:21 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has joined #go-nuts 19:22 -!- tumdum [~tumdum@unaffiliated/tumdum] has quit [Quit: tumdum] 19:32 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 19:33 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has joined #go-nuts 19:33 -!- divoxx [~divoxx@189.63.144.201] has quit [Client Quit] 19:35 -!- Venom_X_ [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:35 -!- Venom_X_ [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:36 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36 -!- SugarBear [~stephen.s@91.86.19.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:36 -!- gzmask [~gzmask@corwin.cat.uregina.ca] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 19:37 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:40 -!- smw [~stephen@pool-96-232-88-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:49 -!- lux` [lucs@151.95.180.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:49 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.242.234] has joined #go-nuts 20:02 -!- Surma [~surma@91-64-29-245-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:04 -!- fwiffo [~none@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:10 -!- slashus2 [~slashus2@74-137-24-74.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:12 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13 -!- tor5 [~tor@c-457171d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: tor5] 20:14 -!- tor5 [~tor@c-457171d5.04-50-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 20:15 -!- ikke [~ikkibr@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:17 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 20:17 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@ip68-227-143-68.br.br.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:21 -!- ikke [~ikkibr@189.58.213.238.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 20:21 -!- ikke [~ikkibr@189.58.213.238.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Changing host] 20:21 -!- ikke [~ikkibr@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has joined #go-nuts 20:30 -!- bmizerany [~bmizerany@dsl081-064-072.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:37 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@ip68-227-143-68.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Quit: mattikus] 20:37 -!- zcram [~zcram@67.140.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:38 -!- fenicks [~christian@log77-4-82-246-228-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:40 < fenicks> hello 20:44 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@pc-ab82.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 20:45 -!- SugarBear [~stephen.s@91.86.19.34] has quit [] 20:46 -!- itrekkie [~itrekkie@ip68-228-245-244.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:48 < itrekkie> Hi everyone, pardon the newbie question concerning reading from argv: is using the "flag" package appropriate? 20:48 < itrekkie> I'm finding it harder to google for go than I'm used to 20:48 <+iant> The flag package is appropriate for handling command line options, sure 20:48 <+iant> or you can just use os.Argv 20:50 < itrekkie> I don't need any processing, just the strings, so the latter looks better 20:51 -!- zozoRden [~zozoR@0x5da69cf2.cpe.ge-0-1-0-1105.hsnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. 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