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00:19 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXD5T by [Andrew Gerrand] in
go/doc/codelab/wiki/ -- codelab/wiki: fix typo in demo URL
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01:21 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXHFG by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/big/
-- big: implemented overlap-tolerant shifts in assembly
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02:23 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXM39 by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/big/
-- fix build (typo in arith_386.s)
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05:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bXXy3 by [Ian Lance Taylor] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- Save the scheduling state even predawn.
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11:28 < napsy> can I create a Reader object from a string?
11:32 < fwiffo> i guess you could use bytes.Buffer for that
11:32 < fwiffo> oh, package strings has a NewReader func
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11:33 < napsy> thanks
11:37 < napsy> I create a scanner for my string reader with scanner.Scanner
but when I try to print the token, I get the value -2.  Am I doing it right?
http://gist.github.com/393312
11:38 < chressie> napsy: -2 means the scanner found an identifier
11:39 < chressie> see constants in scanner documentation
11:39 < chressie> with s.TokenText() you get the identifer text
11:43 < napsy> oh thanks it works
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12:01 < napsy> I'm trying to create a go binding for libuuid bit I get one
error trying to compile the following code.  What's wrong?
http://gist.github.com/393334
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12:05 < exch> the signature for uuid_generate takes pointer to a uchar
array.  You'll have to pass it that.  Or if C.uuid_t is defined as *_C_unsigned
char in the gotypes file, then simply cast &out to the right type:
C.uuid_generate((*_C_unsignedchar)(&out))
12:07 < exch> or define out as 'var out *_C_unsignedchar' and convert it to
a UUID type manually
12:08 < exch> which you'll have to do anyways, because a *u_char can't just
be cast to a static go array of bytes
12:09 < napsy> it works if I declare out as *_C_unsigned_char
12:09 < napsy> *_C_unsignedchar
12:10 < napsy> so C.unsignedchar isn't defined in the C package?
12:11 < exch> there's some issues if you try to use the C.xxx syntax as a
pointer: var foo *C.xxx
12:11 < exch> it should be defined, but for some reason it fails to compile
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12:11 < napsy> ok
12:11 < exch> var foo *_C_xxx works
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12:19 < napsy> ok another related question, how can I now convert a
*_C_unsignedchar to []byte if I know the unsigned char points to 16 bytes?
12:21 < exch> have a look here
http://github.com/eden/mysqlgo/blob/master/mysql/bound_data.go#L78
12:21 < napsy> ok
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12:25 < napsy> Hum I get "cannot convert out (type *_C_unsignedchar) to type
uintptr in conversion"
12:27 < exch> only an unsafe.Pointer can be converted to/from uintptr.  This
is gonna look a bit confusing: ptr := uintptr(unsafe.Pointer(out))
12:28 < napsy> oh ok thanks
12:28 < napsy> I'm a bit fussy on go pointers
12:29 < exch> heh using c pointers and go pointers in the same code makes
for an excellent headache :p
12:29 < napsy> :)
12:38 < napsy> now I can't convert a []uint8 back to *_C_unsignedchar
12:39 < napsy> func UuidUnparse(id []uint8) string { var p_id
*_C_unsignedchar = *_C_unsignedchar(id)
12:39 < napsy> this isn't working
12:41 < exch> (*_C_unsignedchar)(id)
12:41 < exch> you need the extra () cos of the *
12:42 < napsy> still doesn't work
12:43 < napsy> uuid.cgo1.go:22: cannot convert id (type []uint8) to type
*_C_unsignedchar in conversion
12:44 < napsy> I got " var p_id *_C_unsignedchar = (*_C_unsignedchar)(id)
12:44 < exch> they are 2 completely different types..  Just like you can't
convert a *char to []byte, the reverse doesn't work either.  You need to do it
manually..  Allocate a sufficiently sized *char buffer.  Loop over the []byte
slice and assign each entry to the *char
12:45 < napsy> ok
12:45 < exch> don't forget to free the *char buffer once you are done with
it
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13:00 < exch> napsy: here's an example of how to do it:
http://gist.github.com/393384
13:00 < napsy> cool thanks
13:00 < exch> you need to #include <stdlib.h> to use C.malloc and
C.free
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13:40 < anschelsc> OK I know this is totally obvious but I can't find it
anywhere in the docs, maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing:
13:40 < anschelsc> How do I read a file from the filesystem?
13:42 < exch> import "io/ioutil" ....  data, err :=
ioutil.ReadFile("foo.txt")
13:43 < anschelsc> thanks exch, btw is there somewhere else I should be
looking for this sort of stuff?
13:44 < exch> not as far as documentation goes.  I spend a fair amount of
time reading the go source and source code of other people's libraries
13:45 < anschelsc> gotcha, thanks for the help
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13:57 < anschelsc> and if I want to ignore the error?
13:57 < anschelsc> or generally ignore one of the values returned by the
function?
13:57 < anschelsc> I should probably highlight you exch
13:59 < chressie> data, _ := ioutil.ReadFile("foo.txt")
14:00 < chressie> the _ ignores the returned value
14:00 < anschelsc> thanks chressie
14:01 < exch> what he said :)
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14:02 < chressie> anschelsc: see here
http://localhost:6060/doc/go_spec.html#Blank_identifier
14:02 < chressie> damit, not localhost of course :)
14:02 < exch> :p
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18:49 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bYZlx by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ -- gob:
add an internal commentary example showing how the
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18:54 < zcram> "..how the values are encoded for transmission."
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19:25 < Squarism> what is so good with this language?
19:25 < Squarism> from nowhere to #23 on tiobe's ranking
19:25 < exch> try it and find out :)
19:26 < Squarism> who does it mostly appeal to?
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19:28 < exch> It is intended for systems development..  servers software and
such.  So in that regard, I suppose mostly C people.  But it's easy enough to be
picked up by anyone really.
19:28 < exch> provided they are unix users.  Not sure how the windows ports
are coming along, if at all
19:29 < Squarism> ah i see
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19:29 < Squarism> i guess that space does need some evolvement
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19:35 < exch> it's #15 now in the index :)
19:35 < exch> rising star!
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19:40 < exch> surprising that 'Go' is listed as award winning 'Language of
the Year' for 2009.  What's that based on?  O.o
19:42 < Squarism> whats also suprising is the quick acceptance
19:42 < Squarism> feels like the "enterprise" scene is quite conservative
19:43 < exch> the people behind Go have a very impressive track record.
That prolly helped convince some people to give it a try
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19:43 < Squarism> scala, that beats java any day has struggled for 5-7 years
atleast wo any major momentum
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19:44 < Tonnerre> I still wonder where to consider Go in terms of serious
use
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19:46 < araujo> writing an OS?
19:47 < araujo> or better said kernel?  ...
19:47 < Tonnerre> araujo, me?  Not exactly, just co-maintaining one
19:47 < araujo> probably not a short-term application though
19:47 < exch> you'll have to make the runtime go SO independant..  There has
been some minor work in that area, but it's very limited and only runs on 386
machines
19:47 < exch> *OS
19:48 < araujo> I have also wondered if there is still some room for a nice
shell written and taking advantage of Go capabilities ....
19:48 * BrowserUk came here in order to get a feel for that also.  So far, there
doesn't appear to be much momentum in the language definition.  Kinda "this is
what we think we need for our purposes; If that's useful to you, s'good.  If not,
tough." vibe so far.
19:49 <+iant> I think it's changed a fair bit since the release last october
19:49 < araujo> that is pretty much a good open source development model
BrowserUk
19:49 <+iant> look at the log of doc/go_spec.html
19:49 < exch> I also don't see much wrong with an attitude like that.  It's
their language, they get to do with it whatever they want :p We can only present
well argumented ideas
19:50 < araujo> code what it is useful for you , if you try to satisfy
everyone's need, you will end up satisfying nobody's needs
19:50 < exch> indeed
19:50 < exch> at some point you have to decide on what works for you and
leave it at that.  Lest you end up with something like C++
19:51 * exch shivers
19:52 < exch> If all else fails, there's nothing stopping you from forking
the code and 'rolling your own' so to speak :)
19:52 < BrowserUk> I guess I was looking to see more open discussion
here...perhaps it's just my expectations that are wrong.
19:53 < exch> discussion is always welcome, but prolly best done on the
mailinglist
19:54 < exch> personally I haven't had much reason to do so yet.  I like
what i've seen so far
19:55 < araujo> I have liked too, though definitely bit impressed by those
tiobe results too heh
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19:56 < BrowserUk> iant: Can (where?) I look at the log of doc/go_spec.html?
19:58 <+iant> BrowserUk:
http://code.google.com/p/go/source/list?path=/doc/go_spec.html&r=bb59d0168350a816046e301b1d2408e11a2414cb
19:59 < BrowserUk> iant: Thanks.
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20:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bZ830 by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ -- gob:
bug fix: errors encoding the payload were not
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21:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/bZcwn by [Rob Pike] in 6 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- compress: renamings.
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22:16 < napsy> What are the terms for using the Go gopher logo?
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22:24 <+iant> napsy: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
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22:27 < napsy> ok
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22:28 < mpl> iant: any chance to get rob pike's talk at stanford from
another source?  it seems from here that the .wmv pointed in that .asx is broken
at the moment...
22:29 <+iant> as far as I know Stanford has the only copy, you would have to
ask them
22:29 < mpl> alright, thanks.
22:29 < mpl> maybe they're overwhelmed or something...
22:30 < kkress-screen> Anyone familiar with the websocket pkg and whether it
is working?  I found a stats from March saying it wasn't ready, but I didn't find
anything recent.  I'm getting a stacktrace on Read() calls which I'm assuming is a
bad thing
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22:31 < uriel> mpl: I managed to get a copy, I need to upload it somewhere
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22:31 * uriel wishes google-video was still allowing uploads, it was so much
better than youtube ;(
22:32 < mpl> uriel: outstanding.  please let me know when it's available.
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22:32 < uriel> anyone has a recommendation for where one can upload long
videos and that provides a minimally sane interface?
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22:33 < DaFlo> hi.
22:33 < DaFlo> is there a ban to unregistred users?
22:33 < DaFlo> *for*
22:33 < mpl> uriel: put it on sources ;P
22:34 < uriel> DaFlo: seems so, which is quite unfortunate
22:34 < mpl> uriel: how about on archive.org ?
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22:39 < uriel> mpl: the video is AFAIK not in the public domain
22:42 < mpl> ah, right.
22:42 < sladegen> perhaps someone could upload it to gocoding on yt...  and
then tinyogg it...
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