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00:18 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ciakc by [Michael Hoisie] in go/src/pkg/net/
-- netFD: fix race between Close and Read/Write
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00:35 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cibol by [Ken Thompson] in 4 subdirs of
go/src/cmd/ -- fix issue 798
00:35 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cibou by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc:
disallow · in Go programs
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00:50 < fernan> still banned?
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00:52 <+iant> you probably just needed to register your nick
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02:23 < exch> hmm.  I thought I found a nice use for interfaces, but it
doesn't quite work as I hoped :( If a type has a method 'Get() string', you can't
cast it to an interface that has 'Get() interface{}'.  Shame really.  It means I
still need to write this massive switch statement when dereferencing reflect
values
02:24 < Ginto8> well the issue is that the interface functions have to have
the same return values, not just compatible ones
02:24 < exch> yea I noticed
02:24 < jessta> exch: that would be really weird
02:24 < exch> why.  an interface{} can represent anything..  including a
string
02:24 < Eridius> because an interface{} is actually a box around the real
value
02:25 < Ginto8> I'll use the duck typing though process "If it looks like a
duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.  But only if it quacks and looks
like it should"
02:25 < jessta> exch: you should read russ cox's post about interfaces
02:25 < Eridius> you can store the results of `Get() string' in an
interface{}, but that's because your code knows it's returning a string and it
boxes it up for you.  If your code doesn't know that the function its calling
really returns a string, it can't know that it needs to box it up
02:26 < Eridius> s/its calling/it's calling/
02:26 < exch> Go does it like: I'll treat it like a quaking duck, only if
it's a quacking duck of the Xyyz genus and ABC subspecies" :p
02:26 < exch> I'll write the switch statement, but this would really have
been something where interfaces would have been excellent
02:27 < Ginto8> exch: no, it just has to quack and look like it should
02:27 < Eridius> you can't think of interface{} as a wildcard, but rather as
a box that you can put things in
02:28 < Ginto8> interface{ Get() string } != interface{ Get() interface{} }
because because each Get() can have VERY different output
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02:36 < exch> I guess I should just get used to this looking very odd
http://pastie.org/970562
02:37 < exch> Go tries very hard to reduce unnecessary typing (stuttering).
For the most part it works excellently, but this is one of those situations where
it's own ambitions create the opposite efect
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02:49 < Eridius> exch: why didn't you say you were using reflect.Value?
02:49 < Eridius> have you looked at reflect.Value.Interface()?
02:49 < Eridius> because that returns the value as an interface{}
02:49 < Eridius> which it seems is exactly what you're trying to do
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02:49 < exch> hmm never noticed that
02:49 < exch> i'll have a look
02:50 < Eridius> also check out Indirect() in order to get the value that is
being pointed to (since it seems your deref() function does that)
02:50 < exch> yea
02:50 < exch> I don't need pointers.  Just the values it points to
02:51 < Eridius> just loop on Indirect() until it returns its input
02:51 < Eridius> although if you have multiple levels of pointers you may be
doing something wrong ;)
02:58 < exch> righty.  that seems to do the trick
03:01 < exch> http://pastie.org/970588 <- this gives proper results
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04:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cioom by [Ken Thompson] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
fix bug 275
04:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cioox by [Ken Thompson] in 2 subdirs of
go/test/ -- clean up bug 275
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05:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/citsX by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/gc/ -- gc:
line number bug fix
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05:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/civu7 by [Russ Cox] in 3 subdirs of go/ -- gc:
handle use of builtin function outside function call
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06:13 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ciwrD by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/big/
-- big: implemented Int.Binomial (to be used in test/hilbert.go with the
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07:36 < Abablabab> I have an exam on concurrent programming this morning,
wish me luck :)
07:37 < kmeyer> good luck ;)
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07:54 < bortzmeyer> Abablabab: Go! :-)
07:55 < fernan> break a leg
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08:24 < MizardX> I'm having trouble with go-routines in Go for Windows.
This simple program dead-locks (I think).  I've also attached the traceback.
http://ideone.com/qLeIJ
08:24 < MizardX> I'm using the latest mingw32 version
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08:25 < MizardX> 2010-05-04 version
08:26 < MizardX> s/version/build/
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08:31 < MizardX> Where should I give a bug report for this?
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08:41 < ampleyfly> MizardX: I know nothing about this, but from at the
traceback it looks like a memory allocation failed (no idea why that would result
in "gosched holding locks" though)
08:41 < ampleyfly> +?
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09:24 < ryan_languagelab> hi all.  why is the default for the binaries
$HOME/bin/quietgcc rather than $HOME/bin like the docs say?
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09:39 < ryan_languagelab> hi all.  why is the default for the binaries
$HOME/bin/quietgcc rather than $HOME/bin like the docs say?
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09:44 < jessta> ryan_languagelab: huh?
09:45 < jessta> the default location for the binaries is $HOME/bin
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09:55 < wrtp> MizardX: the mingw implementation is buggy.
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09:59 < ryan_languagelab> I ran ./all.bash ...  the only Go related binaries
in $HOME/bin appear to be "gomake" and "quietgcc"
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10:01 < jessta> ryan_languagelab: did the build have any errors?
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10:02 < ryan_languagelab> ok yes i've found the error thanks
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10:42 < taruti> Has anyone implemented recursive locks for Go?
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10:48 < taruti> using channels is no trivial solution for this unfortunately
:(
10:49 < taruti> "work X needs to be done in a single threaded manner and may
recurse"
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11:11 < jessta> taruti: huh?
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11:13 < taruti> jessta: just had some concurrency issues, solved them
though.
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11:14 < jessta> taruti: what are recursive locks good for?
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13:25 < emiel_> hey guys 'n girls - just playing around a little bit in go
and trying to implement some protocol-stuff; now i had the expectation that stuff
in go can be expressed short and concise, yet each of the following three i find
kind of ugly: http://gist.github.com/408821 - any sugs :)?
13:26 < jessta> emiel_: what is ugly about it?
13:26 < bortzmeyer> emiel_:
http://github.com/bortzmeyer/grong/blob/master/server.go
13:26 < emiel_> well, they all seem too expressive to me :)
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13:26 < exch> &[...]byte can be : &[]byte{} and also doesn't need to be a
pointer
13:26 < exch> so []byte{...}
13:27 < bortzmeyer> emiel_: do not use literals like 0xf0.  Give them names
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13:27 < emiel_> bortzmeyer: i will, but then the problem remains
13:27 < emiel_> exch: ah
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13:28 < emiel_> ah, of course, that is better :)
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13:35 < i__> emiel_: i guess pkg encoding/binary could help?
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13:54 < wrtp> emiel_: i.header.Write([]byte{ 0xf0, ...  }) would be more
conventional (and is exactly the same)
13:54 < emiel_> i__: thanks :)
13:54 < wrtp> oops sorry, that's what exch said!
13:54 < emiel_> wrtp: yes, as per suggestion above i changed it into this :)
13:54 < emiel_> thanks anyway!
13:55 < wrtp> and as i__ says, encoding/binary makes reading and writing
binary quite easy
13:55 < wrtp> np
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19:08 < napsy> Hello.  Can I declare a structure inside of itself?
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19:12 < napsy> because if I do that now I get a "invalid recursive type
Node" error message
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19:13 <+iant> a struct can not have a field which is the type of the struct,
that does not make sense
19:13 <+iant> a struct can have a field which is a pointer to the struct
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19:13 < exch> type A struct { myA *A }
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19:13 < napsy> ok thanks it works now
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19:24 < napsy> Is there a string function to search just for one character
like C strchr() ?
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19:26 <+iant> napsy: there is IndexRune
19:26 < Ginto8> napsy: and Index can be called with a 1 char string
19:26 < Ginto8> IndexAny looks for more than one character
19:26 < napsy> oh ok IndexRune it is
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19:59 < exch> lots of interesting stuff in the google IO vids
20:00 < kmeyer> oooh, link?
20:00 < exch> http://www.youtube.com/googledevelopers
20:00 < kmeyer> thanks :)
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20:00 < exch> interviews, lectures and keynotes
20:01 < exch> android 2.2 is looking pretty damn nice
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21:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cjxCe by [Robert Griesemer] in 5 subdirs of
go/ -- bignum: deprecate by moving into exp directory
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21:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cjyIj by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/big/
-- big: fix Int.SetString comment, simplify implementation,
21:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cjyIn by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/syscall/ --
syscall: regenerate zsyscall_linux_arm.go - fix build
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go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime: correct tracebacks for nascent goroutines, even
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