--- Log opened Mon Jun 07 00:00:01 2010 00:12 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 00:18 -!- Makoryu [~vt920@ool-457e678b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:18 < Makoryu> ( °‿‿°) 00:19 < smw> can someone help me compile go-gtk? 00:19 < smw> whenever I run it, I get an error 00:19 < Makoryu> On Linux? 00:19 < smw> yeah 00:20 < smw> hold on, I am pastebining it 00:20 < smw> http://codepad.org/Cz1DaWE5 00:22 < smw> ah 00:22 < smw> found the problem 00:23 < Ginto8> the issue is the #ifdef __x86_64__ block 00:23 < smw> ok 00:23 < smw> where is that 00:23 < smw> I thought I solved it. I was wrong :-\ 00:23 < Ginto8> line 60 00:24 < Ginto8> it declares _callback 00:24 < Ginto8> but doesn't define it 00:24 < smw> of which file 00:24 < Ginto8> line 60 of the thing you pasted on codepad 00:24 < Ginto8> I think the asm code that comes after the declaration is intended as the definition 00:25 < Ginto8> but it isn't enclosed in {} 00:25 < smw> ok 00:25 < smw> I truthfully know nothing about cgo 00:26 < Ginto8> do you know anything about c? 00:26 < smw> very little 00:26 < Ginto8> hmm 00:26 < Ginto8> c++? 00:26 < smw> I never made much in either of those 00:26 < Ginto8> ah 00:26 < smw> I made simple things 00:26 < smw> but that means nothing like macros or ifndef 00:26 < Ginto8> well that is the issue, cuz cgo is, quite literally, nothing more than a way of interfacing to C code through go 00:27 < smw> yeah 00:27 < smw> so what is the fix? and this issue only appears on x86_64? 00:27 < Ginto8> apparently 00:27 < Ginto8> well 00:27 < Ginto8> seemingly 00:27 < Ginto8> you're on x86_64? 00:28 < smw> yeah 00:28 < Ginto8> hmm 00:29 < Ginto8> I think the asm code is supposed to be the definition 00:29 < Ginto8> like, defining it in asm 00:29 < Ginto8> interesting 00:29 < Ginto8> but it seems that cgo can't tell that 00:30 < smw> I would try to figure this out... but it is way out of my area of knowledge 00:32 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.137.48.71] has joined #go-nuts 00:32 < smw> Ginto8, did you figure it out or should I send this in to the creator? 00:32 < smw> It sounded like you knew the problem 00:37 < Ginto8> I don't know the problem, I just know C 00:37 < smw> ah 00:37 < vrtical> It looks suspicious to me (I know C better than Go), the #if clause has a function *declaration* for _callback (ending with a semicolon), followed by some asm code, 00:37 < vrtical> while the #else clause has a function definition 00:38 < Ginto8> vrtical, if you looked at the asm code, it actually defined the function in asm 00:38 < Ginto8> like, setup an asm subroutine (or whatever you call it for asm 00:38 < Ginto8> ) 00:41 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.203] has quit [Quit: carllerche] 00:41 < vrtical> Ginto8: I see what you mean, interesting. I wonder why... 00:41 < Ginto8> idk 00:42 -!- carrus85 [~carrus85@216.83.145.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:42 < smw> Well, I sent a message to the creator. 00:43 < smw> I will see if he responds. I am making archlinux packages for go libraries 00:43 < Ginto8> goinstall? 00:43 < Ginto8> why wouldn't that work? 00:44 < smw> huh? 00:44 < smw> what about goinstall? 00:44 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:44 < Ginto8> you can use it to easily install those libs 00:44 < Ginto8> without dealing with system-specific package management 00:44 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-154-117.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:45 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:45 < smw> I want system specific package management :-) 00:45 < vrtical> Ginto8: those 3 lines of assembly hardly seem to do the same thing as the dozen lines of C below (for the same _callback function) 00:45 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:45 < Ginto8> yeah... unless x86_64 has some builtin function 00:46 < Ginto8> ohwait 00:46 < Ginto8> the asm is defining _callback_amd6 which calls _callback 00:46 < Ginto8> I don't think the #else should be there 00:47 < Ginto8> I think the #else should be a #endif 00:47 < Ginto8> except for the fact that the return types are different 00:47 * Ginto8 is stumped 00:56 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@210.188.173.245] has joined #go-nuts 00:56 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58 -!- ender2070 [~ender2070@bas5-hamilton14-1279278974.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #go-nuts 01:01 < vrtical> _callback seems to be called (line 109) cast to GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC, which seems to be typedefed to void (*GtkSignalFunc) (void) 01:01 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:02 < vrtical> Anyway it's well above my comfort level but it looks like a mistake to me. 01:02 < Ginto8> well if it's casting to a void (*) (void) then that's the issue 01:02 < Ginto8> or an issue at least 01:06 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 01:12 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:14 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 01:26 -!- carter [~carter@cpe-66-65-17-10.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:39 -!- gisikw [~gisikw@173-106-234-181.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:44 -!- gisikw [~gisikw@173-106-234-181.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:56 -!- Wiz126 [~Wiz126@70.15.26.13.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:02 -!- Wiz126 [~Wiz126@70.15.26.13.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:25 -!- NoPyGod2 [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 02:25 -!- NoPyGod2 [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 02:32 -!- jdp [~gu@24.238.32.162.res-cmts.segr.ptd.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:36 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@mail.xbiotica.com] has quit [Quit: plainhao] 02:42 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:47 -!- emmanueloga [~emmanuelo@190.247.39.128] has joined #go-nuts 03:01 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:36 -!- carter [~carter@cpe-66-65-17-10.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-71-191-192-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:00 -!- xor [~xor@87.196.208.233] has joined #go-nuts 04:00 < xor> Hi there. 04:00 < Ginto8> hullo 04:00 < xor> Is there any GUI lib on Go? 04:01 < Ginto8> not explicitly in go, but using cgo you can interface directly with any C library 04:01 < Ginto8> and I think they made a go wrapper for gtk 04:02 -!- ExtraSpice [~ExtraSpic@78-62-86-161.static.zebra.lt] has joined #go-nuts 04:02 < xor> I'll check it out, thanks for pointing it out. 04:03 < Ginto8> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings <- bindings for C code 04:03 -!- aho [~nya@g227072014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 04:03 < Ginto8> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/pure-go-libs <- libs written in Go 04:03 < Ginto8> idk how much use each will be to you 04:04 < xor> Thanks for the help. 04:04 -!- xor [~xor@87.196.208.233] has quit [Client Quit] 04:49 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-24-21-216-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:50 -!- NoPyGod2 [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 04:50 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-24-21-216-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:52 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:54 -!- NoPyGod2 [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:57 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:00 -!- NoPyGod [~no@125-237-112-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 05:01 -!- scm [justme@d038026.adsl.hansenet.de] 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In short, a formal ... parameter is passed unchanged as an actual ... parameter provided the types match." 13:57 < Soultaker> a bit inconvient that the official term is apparently "... parameters" which is terrible to search for. 13:58 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:58 < emiel_> yes, i saw in the reflect package that they have stuff like isDotDotDot() :) 13:58 < Soultaker> hehe 13:59 < exch> isn't that called an elipsis? 13:59 < exch> or am I thinking of something else here? 13:59 < Soultaker> ellipsis, yeah. 13:59 < Tonnerre> exch, horizontal ellipsis even 13:59 < emiel_> yes, in normal languages yea, not in go apparently ;) 13:59 < exch> yay 13:59 < emiel_> and with normal languages i mean natural languages 14:00 < Soultaker> or coming from C varargs (or variable argument lists) 14:00 < Tonnerre> I liked va_arglist as it means something evil in German 14:01 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.103.83] has joined #go-nuts 14:01 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 14:01 < Soultaker> lol, i never knew that =) 14:01 < Tonnerre> A "List" is a plot, and an Arglist means an evil plot 14:02 -!- perdix [~perdix@sxemacs/devel/perdix] has joined #go-nuts 14:02 < Soultaker> according to my dictionary it's the same word in Dutch :/ 14:02 < Soultaker> I don't recall ever seeing it :) 14:02 < emiel_> list is the same in dutch yea, arglist doesn't exist 14:02 < Soultaker> emiel: it does, that's what surprised me too. 14:03 < emiel_> Soultaker: ha, you utwente student? 14:03 < Tonnerre> It's not used frequently anymore, it comes from 17th-19th century literature mostly 14:03 < Soultaker> http://woordenlijst.org/zoek/?q=arglist 14:03 < Soultaker> thanks for teaching me something new about my native language Tonnerre =) 14:03 < Soultaker> emiel_: yeah :) 14:04 * emiel_ too :) 14:04 < InaVegt> Hmmm, I could write a function named Reserché in go, and it would be valid, right? 14:04 < emiel_> pretty coincedental 14:04 < Tonnerre> You're welcome, and I have a Swede around here who keeps teaching me about German ;) 14:04 < Soultaker> ah, cool 14:04 < Soultaker> small world :) 14:04 < InaVegt> 'list' is archaic? It's not archaic in my 'lect of Dutch, nor is its derivative 'listig' 14:05 -!- emmanueloga [~emmanuelo@190.247.39.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:05 < Soultaker> list isn't, but arglist is. 14:05 < Soultaker> although I'd call list already a little old-fashioned . 14:05 < InaVegt> ahihi, okay. :) 14:05 < InaVegt> List might be old-fashioned, but not archaic. Now, 'noen', that word is archaic. 14:07 -!- mfoemmel [~mfoemmel@chml01.drwholdings.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:07 < exch> never heard of 'arglist' being used in Dutch 14:08 < exch> interesting 14:08 < emiel_> haha, everyone's dutch, or what? 14:08 < exch> apparently :p 14:08 < Soultaker> weird. 14:09 < emiel_> Tonnerre: just start on swedish, much cooler than german ;) 14:10 < Tonnerre> emiel_, need to fix my danish first 14:10 < Soultaker> my experience with Swedish is that you can't really read it, but if you try to read it out loud ignoring all the strange diacritics, then you can often make some sense of it 14:11 < Soultaker> that might only work if you're native tongue is a germanic language too though :) 14:11 < Soultaker> s/you're/your/ 14:11 < emiel_> Tonnerre: haha, no comment ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk 14:11 < Soultaker> and it didn't help at all to understand spoken language :/ 14:11 < dho> English is Germanic, and I doubt there's much sense to be made for native English speakers ;) 14:12 <+iant> there are a lot of Swedish words with English cognates, thoiugh 14:12 < Soultaker> jeg tale ikke dansk. 14:12 < Soultaker> is the only danish I know. 14:12 <+iant> handy 14:12 -!- mat_ [~mat@mx3.absolight.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13 < exch> bork bork bork 14:13 < dho> I didn't get any Swedish until I learned Dutch :P 14:13 < exch> norwegian, swedish and danish are relatively easy for dutchies 14:14 < exch> lot's of similarities 14:14 < Soultaker> so I guess we can switch the channel language to Dutch then? :P seems like everybody here speaks it. 14:14 < exch> finnish on the other hand may as well be chinese 14:14 < dho> mag van mij wel :) 14:15 < exch> fine with me :p 14:15 -!- barismetin [~barismeti@kde/developer/baris] has joined #go-nuts 14:15 <+iant> The time of day affects known languages (I can't read Dutch at all myself) 14:15 < exch> all the americans are prolly still asleep :p 14:15 <+iant> well, I do understand what dho just said 14:15 < Soultaker> that makes sense probably. 14:16 < dho> exch: I'm american :P 14:16 < dho> it's 10:19 on the east coast. 14:16 < exch> fair enough. Almost all americans then :p 14:16 < exch> ah 14:18 -!- mat_ [~mat@prod2.absolight.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:18 < Soultaker> so 8-16 GMT Dutch, 16-24 English, 0-8 something Asian? 14:18 < InaVegt> :D 14:19 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.2.32.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 14:19 < dho> heh 14:19 < dho> all you dutchies are fluent in english anyway 14:19 < InaVegt> Not all of us, just most of us. 14:20 < dho> and make it extraordinarily difficult for those of us who want to learn dutch to actually do so 14:20 < Soultaker> the selection in this channel is biased towards those that are :) 14:20 < dho> because the moment you detect an accent, you're like OMG LOOK AT MY ENGLISH 14:20 < Soultaker> haha 14:20 < dho> and refuse to speak dutch after that point :P 14:20 < emiel_> dho: same for sweden tho :) sucks 14:20 < Soultaker> I actually liked that about Sweden. you can talk to people. 14:20 < dho> It's ok, I lived in Vorden and new people who didn't even speak ABN 14:20 < dho> knew* 14:21 < Soultaker> for example in Italy I feel usually utterly lost. nobody speaks English, and I barely speak any Italian. 14:21 < dho> also s/didn't/countly/ 14:21 < dho> a;slkdgjha;rsbhjkawerh;lkbja 14:21 < dho> COULDN'T 14:21 < dho> wow, my typing is shit today. 14:21 < dho> I clearly need to leave the office and go back to sleep. 14:21 < Soultaker> and the day just began for you :) 14:21 <+iant> Some of my relatives in Sweden are pretty shaky on English; my uncle doesn't speak it at all 14:21 < emiel_> Soultaker: yes, when visiting for a couple of days it's pretty cool, but when trying to learn swedish not so much 14:21 < dho> mmmm plat achterhoeks 14:21 < exch> dho: you'd be surprised how many dutchies can't write Dutch properly. Me included in all fairness :p 14:21 < Soultaker> that's probably true. 14:21 < dho> exch: I didn't say write, I really meant speak. 14:22 <+iant> on the other hand his Ecuadorian girlfriend is fluent in Swedish, English, and Spanish 14:22 < emiel_> iant: depends on where you are i guess, in stockholm it is pretty well uhm developed i think 14:22 < Soultaker> stupied Dutchies don't even know perfectly cromulent words like "arglist" 14:22 < dho> exch: and I wouldn't be surprised 14:22 <+iant> emiel_: Malmo in this case 14:22 <+iant> not exactly a backwater in Swedish terms 14:22 < dho> exch: I frequently reviewed my girlfriends papers and stuff when she was doing her mbo and hbo fixing d/t errors 14:23 < exch> I never get those right :p 14:23 < dho> seriously, how hard is it? 14:23 < dho> 't kofschip 14:23 < dho> it's YOUR mnemonic 14:23 < exch> very much so apparently :) 14:23 < dho> :P 14:23 < emiel_> no, well, my swedish friends are definitely the OMG LOOK AT MY ENGLISH type 14:23 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.2.32.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24 < emiel_> most annoying being that their english is probably better than mine haha 14:24 < Soultaker> go live with iant's uncle for a couple of months then ;) 14:24 < dho> of course I never memorized gender for words, and the longer I go without speaking / writing dutch regularly, the more words become gendered. 14:25 < exch> One of my personal friends was born in the US. He's been living here for about 20 years now and he still gets the genders wrong for some reason. Makes for some funny conversations :) 14:25 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.2.32.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 14:25 < dho> can't beat the time i went to order fries like a week after getting there 14:25 < dho> when I couldn't hear the difference between ui and au 14:25 < dho> and ordered een patat met me au 14:26 < dho> met au even 14:26 < exch> lol 14:26 < dho> the guy leaned over and punched me 14:26 < dho> "au he?" 14:26 < vrtical> Soultaker: you have to provide a channel for him to report back on the result of living with iant's uncle :-) 14:26 < exch> hehe at least you got what you ordered ;) 14:26 < Soultaker> better make it a chånäl 14:26 < dho> exch: Or the fact that "pulling something off" is a perfectly valid action in english 14:26 < dho> :( 14:27 < Soultaker> dho: should just order a patatje oorlog :) 14:27 < dho> heh 14:27 < dho> And I could never figure out whether I was "on" something or "in" something 14:27 < Soultaker> free peanut sauce to boot! 14:27 < dho> free? 14:27 < dho> it was always more expensive 14:27 < Soultaker> well not really free I guess. 14:28 < Soultaker> but it beats getting punched, I think. 14:28 < dho> I remember saying I was on an airplane once 14:28 < dho> at breakfast 14:28 < dho> and margriet almost sprayed her OJ on me 14:29 < dho> and pulling books off the shelf :( 14:29 < dho> sigh 14:29 < Soultaker> usually it's "in" when you're literally somewhere, and "on" when figuratively. but it's tricky. 14:29 < dho> sure. 14:29 < dho> but je zit niet op een vliegtuig 14:29 < dho> heh 14:29 -!- drhodes [~none@209-20-72-61.slicehost.net] has left #go-nuts [] 14:29 -!- drhodes [~none@209-20-72-61.slicehost.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:29 < Soultaker> no, because you're in the real thing. :P 14:29 < Soultaker> but you're waiting on the bus, until it arrives, then you're in it. 14:30 < dho> right 14:30 < dho> But in English you can be on the bus when you're on the bus :P 14:30 < dho> so that was always difficult 14:31 < Soultaker> I can imagine. there are a lot of subtleties that are nearly impossible to explain. 14:31 < dho> and nobody could ever explain to me when to add -e to words or not 14:31 < Soultaker> I don't envy people who have to learn Dutch as a second language :/ 14:31 < dho> except it's really simple rules 14:31 < dho> Is the noun gendered? Yes -> add -e, no -> don't 14:31 < Soultaker> I guess a lot of native speakers go by feeling and don't even know a lot of the rules. 14:31 < dho> Is it plural? Yes -> add -e regardless 14:31 < Soultaker> which cases are you talking about? 14:31 < dho> een rood book. rode boeken. 14:32 < dho> boek 14:32 < dho> fucking christ 14:32 < Soultaker> ah. 14:32 < dho> I'm going to smoke, I need to wake up more. 14:32 < exch> Dutch is a horrible language tbh. I agree with Soultaker on not envying those having to learn it 14:32 < Soultaker> yeah, that's definitely not something I consciously think about. 14:32 < dho> It is really much easier to learn than say German 14:33 < dho> And I was able to understand things fluently after a year 14:33 < dho> speaking pretty much fluently after 2 14:33 < exch> Fair enough. The one thing about German I never got was the 'der die das, dem, ' stuff 14:33 < dho> heh 14:33 < dho> brb anyway 14:34 < mpl> what is there to get? it's just arbritrary genders like in other languages with genders. 14:34 -!- KinOfCain [~KinOfCain@rrcs-64-183-61-2.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:34 < exch> I can understand german without any problems. Writing it is a different matter though. 14:34 < exch> mpl: true, but there are so many 14:34 < Soultaker> I don't think it's hard to get, but it's tough to pick the right one without stopping midway in your sentence to think about it. 14:40 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 14:40 < InaVegt> The difficulty lies in genders with cases, to me. 14:41 < Soultaker> it probably doesn't help that Dutch speakers can't get cases right in their own language either. 14:41 < zeen> try learning thai 14:41 < zeen> it's tough 14:42 < Soultaker> no thank you. 14:42 < Soultaker> unless that becomes the official 0-8 GMT language, then I'll have to. 14:43 < exch> sawadee krap 14:46 < zeen> sawadee khap :) 14:46 < dho> heh 14:51 -!- megaboz [~none@unaffiliated/megaboz] has joined #go-nuts 14:57 -!- megaboz [~none@unaffiliated/megaboz] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 14:59 -!- tux21b [~christoph@90.146.60.30] has joined #go-nuts 14:59 -!- Kashia [~Kashia@port-92-200-3-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 15:00 < jnwhiteh> I created a CL this morning and sent the mail using hg mail. I got a copy of the email, but I haven't seen it on the golang-dev google group. 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What can you do with "args ...", that you can't do with "args ...interface{}"? 16:54 -!- sjbrown_ [~sjbrown@dsl081-072-059.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:54 -!- snearch [~snearch@f053001245.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:55 -!- rv2733 [~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:57 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:03 -!- cringe [~cringe@g224108076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:03 <+iant> MizardX: nothing; (args ...) was the original form; it will probably go away 17:05 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 17:06 -!- jeek [~jeek@pedobear.jeek.net] has left #go-nuts [] 17:07 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@g228024155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 17:08 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 17:08 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@g228024155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:27 -!- Killerkid [~killerkid@host86-179-179-123.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:29 -!- mbarkhau [~koloss@dslb-084-059-163-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:32 -!- aho [~nya@g227042229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:34 -!- alexbobp [~alex@rrcs-71-41-17-216.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- alexbobp [~alex@rrcs-71-41-17-216.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:46 < yebyen> are there reasonable mysql bindings in golang? 17:49 -!- i__ [~none@unaffiliated/i--/x-3618442] has joined #go-nuts 17:49 <+iant> yebyen: http://go-lang.cat-v.org/ 17:49 < exch> not sure what qualifies as reasonable, but there are a few. http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings 17:49 -!- alexbobp [~alex@rrcs-71-41-17-216.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49 < yebyen> neat 17:50 -!- marsu [~marsu@93.12.55.177] has joined #go-nuts 17:53 -!- jalmeida [~jalmeida@c934233f.virtua.com.br] has joined #go-nuts 17:55 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:06 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-47-208.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:06 -!- artefon [~thiago@usuarios166.dcc.ufmg.br] has joined #go-nuts 18:07 -!- ericvh [~ericvh@32.97.110.63] has joined #go-nuts 18:10 -!- bortzmeyer [~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:7c07:5001:eeb3:bcc6] has joined #go-nuts 18:13 -!- tux21b_ [~christoph@90.146.60.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13 -!- tux21b [~christoph@90.146.60.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16 -!- cringe [~cringe@g224108076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: cringe] 18:23 -!- Ginto8 [~Ginto8@pool-72-82-235-34.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:27 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:31 -!- Fish [~Fish@88.162.170.133] has joined #go-nuts 18:47 -!- viirya [~viirya@cml506-25.csie.ntu.edu.tw] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:47 -!- MizardX [~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:50 -!- surma [~surma@91-64-18-105-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:52 -!- MizardX [~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx] has joined #go-nuts 18:54 -!- bmizerany [~bmizerany@conference/railsconf/x-awkjfwydponjrjkj] has joined #go-nuts 18:56 -!- bmizeran_ [~bmizerany@conference/railsconf/x-zytscheyyojgvujt] has joined #go-nuts 18:56 -!- bmizerany [~bmizerany@conference/railsconf/x-awkjfwydponjrjkj] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:11 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 19:12 -!- babusri [~e50138@122.166.181.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:13 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 19:16 -!- terrex [~terrex@242.39.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #go-nuts 19:18 -!- bjarneh [~bjarneh@1x-193-157-200-244.uio.no] has joined #go-nuts 19:19 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 19:24 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:27 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@mail.xbiotica.com] has quit [Quit: plainhao] 19:27 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:28 -!- perdix [~perdix@sxemacs/devel/perdix] has quit [Quit: A cow. 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