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00:51 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cGyMK by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- go
spec: rename "assignment compatible" -> "assignable"
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01:24 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cGAYK by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/cmd/gc/
-- gc: backslash newline is not a legal escape sequence in strings
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01:40 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cGBQU by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/cmd/gc/
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09:25 < uriel>
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cc2wf/go_language_google_io/
09:25 < uriel> *sigh*
09:31 < rsaarelm> Yeah, just read that.
09:32 < rsaarelm> Didn't notice anything very insightful there.
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09:35 < ampleyfly> which of all the posts is the sighing about?
09:46 < uriel> most of them?  the usual misinformed babling
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10:47 < wrtp> quite amusing though
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11:00 < mpl> uriel: how is that different from what's on reddit usually?
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15:09 * wrtp loves the fact that channel-based code so often works first time
15:09 < ajray> quick question; i installed x-go-bindings, and i'm trying to
build the example file and it "can't import" the bindings
15:10 < ajray> 8g main.go -> main.go:10: can't find import:
x-go-binding.googlecode.com/hg/xgb
15:10 < wrtp> ajray: sorry, can't help you - i've only used exp/draw/x11
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15:11 < ajray> alright.  thanks
15:12 < ajray> ah.  looks like after using goinstall i must go into the
directory manually and run 'make install' :-P
15:13 < wrtp> yes, you will
15:13 < EthanG> rc shell code very often works first time too
15:13 < wrtp> that applies to all packages that use external bindings
15:13 < ajray> EthanG: you use P9?
15:14 < wrtp> EthanG: i'd agree with that...  mostly.  in more complex
scripts, i often get null variable errors
15:14 < EthanG> yep, a little.  mostly rc in p9p right now
15:14 < EthanG> ahh
15:14 < EthanG> mostly rc in p9p for web work, at that >_>
15:14 < ajray> cool
15:15 < ajray> i'm <3-ing zsh right now, but i dont script in it.  just a
lovely environment
15:15 < wrtp> EthanG: but in channel-based code, i often find myself writing
a single-function process that would be hideous in an event-based world, that just
works.
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15:15 < EthanG> ah right ^_^
15:16 < wrtp> EthanG: e.g.  this code, which i just wrote:
http://paste.lisp.org/+2DUN
15:17 < ajray> that uses the x11 pkg?
15:17 < wrtp> yeah
15:17 < wrtp> well, it's not tied strongly to it.
15:17 < wrtp> it uses draw.Mouse
15:17 < wrtp> (for the definition of the Mouse struct)
15:19 < EthanG> cool
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16:15 < wrtp> ajray, EthanG: BTW if you're interested in Go graphics stuff,
i've been working on some very experimental Go GUI stuff, which is available here:
http://code.google.com/p/rog-go/
16:16 < EthanG> cheers, I'll be looking at that as soon as I'm free of my
current web project
16:17 < wrtp> i'm still not sure i've got the abstractions right, but it
seems to work ok.
16:18 < EthanG> ok ^^'
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16:28 < exch> it panics on line 174 (bounce.go): panic: non-reversible
format "%6.2gms"<->"%gms" (got &strconv.NumError{Num:"0ms", Error:22}), err
%vmissing
16:29 < wrtp> exch: are you using the latest go release?
16:30 < exch> I've updated yesterday.  It's possible there are new fixes
16:31 < wrtp> hmm, it works for me
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16:32 < wrtp> i've fixed that error print
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16:32 < wrtp> but that doesn't help much
16:32 < wrtp> that bit's the most experimental part, actually, and maybe a
wrong direction.
16:33 < wrtp> it
16:33 < wrtp> it's kinda using some functional language concepts
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16:35 < exch> 'panic(fmt.Sprintf("non-reversible format %#v<->%#v (got
%#v), err %v", printf, scanf, err))' needs an extra 'err' parameter for one.  I'll
see what causes the actual strconv error
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16:35 < wrtp> i'll just try rebuilding everthing
16:35 < exch> that's line 333 in value.go
16:35 < wrtp> yeah, i fixed that
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16:36 < wrtp> but the root of the problem seems to be that the Scan doesn't
scan the Printed value correctly
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16:40 < wrtp> i just did an hg sync, ran all.bash, removed
$GOROOT/pkg/*/rog-go* and $GOROOT/src/pkg/rog-go*, did a goinstall, and it all
seems to work
16:40 < wrtp> hmm
16:40 < wrtp> maybe i've fixed something in the meantime
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16:41 < wrtp> nope, doesn't seem so
16:42 < exch> hmm
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16:45 < wrtp> exch: what happens when you run this code:
http://paste.lisp.org/+2DUP
16:46 < exch> got error: parsing 0ms: invalid argument
16:46 < exch> seems sscanf is doing something odd then
16:46 < wrtp> that what i thought.  works fine for me.
16:47 < wrtp> what platform are you on?
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16:47 < exch> linux (amd64)
16:48 < wrtp> might be worth raising it as an issue
16:48 < wrtp> 'cos i think it *should* work...
16:49 < exch> it works if "0ms" is changed to "0 ms"
16:51 < wrtp> are you sure you've rebuilt everything with the latest
release?  'cos that seems like the behaviour of scan from a couple of versions ago
(from my cursory readings of the golang-dev discussions anyway)
16:52 < exch> i'll try updating again
16:52 < wrtp> before you do that, you could just change the call to
Float2String in bounce.b to add a space in the formats
16:53 < wrtp> and see whether the rest works...
16:53 < exch> too late :p
16:53 < wrtp> np
16:57 < exch> righty.  that did it
16:59 < wrtp> oh good
16:59 < wrtp> does it work ok then?
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17:00 < wrtp> there's a bit of testing crud on the bounce canvas i'm afraid
17:00 < wrtp> just testing transparency & controls & suchlike
17:00 < wrtp> the sliders change the ball update rate
17:00 < exch> yup
17:02 < wrtp> good
17:02 < wrtp> reasonably smooth?
17:03 < exch> no issues with 100 balls
17:04 < wrtp> cool
17:04 < wrtp> what about when dragging lines around with lots of balls?
17:05 < exch> while dragging a line endpoint, the balls slow down quite a
bit
17:06 < wrtp> yeah, i see that too
17:06 < wrtp> i think that's because the line bounding box is so large
17:06 < wrtp> so it has to redraw a lot
17:07 < exch> there's also some drawing artifacts on near-horizontal lines.
White pixels become visible on those lines when a ball hits it.  They are blacked
out again when another ball hits it.  This only goes for near-horizontal lines.
The others remain nicely drawn
17:08 < wrtp> exch: yeah, that's a really annoying bug.  it's been around
for ages, and i haven't figured out a good approach to finding it yet.
17:09 < wrtp> i haven't found a deterministic way of reproducing it yet
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22:59 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cHOXJ by [Russ Cox] in go/test/bugs/ --
bug285: delete invalid map assignment
22:59 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cHOXL by [Russ Cox] in go/test/bugs/ --
bug284: make conversion legal, fix error patterns
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23:06 < Eko> !seen wrtp
23:07 < Eko> hmm.  I have an answer to his question, lol.
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23:16 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cHQ27 by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/test/
-- fix build
23:16 < plexdev> http://is.gd/cHQ28 by [Russ Cox] in go/doc/talks/io2010/ --
doc: add Google I/O talk and programs
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23:18 < MizardX> No link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgVhBThJdXc ?
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23:44 < InaVegt> :/ I just remembered one of the reasons I like Go.
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