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00:48 < vrtical> Hey guys, what do you think of the 'type switches' syntax?
00:48 < vrtical> I was very confused by a couple of lines in Russ Cox's part
of the Google I/O talk: func (x int) BinaryOp(op string, y Value) Value {
00:49 < vrtical> switch y := y.(type) { ...
00:50 < vrtical> that y := y.(type) line looked awfully strange to me.  Is
that doing something clever, turning a y of type Value into an int/string/whatever
is passed in, or is it just strange syntax?
00:51 < ampleyfly> could it be switch y := y, (type) { ...  } ?
00:51 < ampleyfly> not that that would make any sense
00:52 < vrtical> I haven't compiled it yet so I can't be sure, but I would
guess that it's not a bug.  The language spec has an example switch i := x.(type)
{
00:53 < vrtical> it was specifically y := y.(type) that confused me.
00:53 < ampleyfly> well, don't ask me =)
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01:18 < Eko1> vrtical: It makes more sense when you understand the .() type
assertion syntax… with "a.(type)" you are kinda "casting" a into a "type" type,
which can then be switched upon.
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01:42 < vrtical> eko: thanks.  The example replacing a type switch with an
if-else chain full of type assertions makes more sense to me now you've said that.
01:43 < vrtical> But would it be fair to say that this process turns y from
some sort of vague interface type into something more concrete?  And do you *have*
to do this to do anything useful with y?
01:44 < Namegduf> No, if you take an interface, you normally just call
methods in it
01:47 < vrtical> Uh, yes.  My 'anything useful' was clearly a silly thing to
say :-)
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08:11 < waterwalker> why don't we have "comma ok" for array indexing?
08:11 < waterwalker> if value, ok := array[index]; ok { Rejoice(value) }
08:13 < waterwalker> it's not a huge issue having to write "if index >= 0
&& index < len(array)", but it would just seem so fitting for Go
08:14 < waterwalker> and as the bounds checking is already there *anyway*,
we end up doing things twice
08:14 < rsaarelm> Bounds checking can be disabled with a compiler flag.
08:14 < waterwalker> hmm, true
08:15 < rsaarelm> There's a precedent for changing semantics with multiple
lvalues though, like how blocking works when reading from channels.
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08:15 < rsaarelm> So an implicit optimization-defeating bounds check when
comma ok is present doesn't sound that bad.
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08:17 < waterwalker> I'm not familiar with the implementation, so I can't
tell
08:17 < waterwalker> but we already have this for maps, channels and type
conversion
08:18 < waterwalker> perhaps I should ask this on the mailing list
08:19 < rsaarelm> You could.  Sounds like it's worth a thought.
08:21 < waterwalker> I vaguely remember someone mentioning this some time
ago, but I can't find it now
08:22 < waterwalker> did't give it much thought at the time
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08:35 < BrowserUk> What does p9rfork do?
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08:42 < waterwalker> it returns -1
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08:48 < BrowserUk> waterwalker: Useful.
08:49 < waterwalker> indeed :)
08:50 < waterwalker> must be a stub
08:52 < BrowserUk> Makes it easy to port I guess :) Another .1% succes.
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16:18 < clamiax> hi
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16:38 < clamiax> I'm trying to build go by following the official
documentation on golang.org.  Though, I get an error during a test while getting
robots.txt from google.com.
16:38 < clamiax> I'm connected (as you can image) but a network unreachable
error is print.  Here is the relevant output: http://codepad.org/UafGMvfs
16:38 < clamiax> Does anyone can point me to the right URI/doc/whatever?
16:39 < clamiax> Thanks in advance.
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16:57 < bortzmeyer> clamiax: it looks like a DNS problem.  The Go runtime
cannot talk to the DNS server ("udp 192.168.1.1:53: network is unreachable") Test
with 'dig @192.168.1.1 A www.google.com'
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17:41 < clamiax> bortzmeyer: yes, it's not a real DNS, just the IP of my
router which usually do reversing for me
17:42 < clamiax> I'm trying to setup the real DNS
17:46 < clamiax> It seems it's working.  Thanks bortzmeyer!
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17:48 < clamiax> No, forget.  It doesn't works.
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17:54 < clamiax> same problem with my ISP's DNS nameservers
17:54 < clamiax> Get http://www.google.com/robots.txt: dial tcp
www.google.com:http: dial udp 193.70.192.25:53: network is unreachable
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17:59 < clamiax> I restored my 192.168.1.1 DNS and the above dig(1) command
works properly (by returning right IP of google.com)
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18:02 < clamiax> Well, test is failed but the compiler seems to be there.
It would be wrong if I leave everything as is?
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18:19 < bortzmeyer> clamiax: the risk is that every Go program you write
will have a problem when resolving names.
18:19 < clamiax> bortzmeyer: yes, you are right.  But why such problem
occurs?  Everything is working properly here!
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18:23 < clamiax> By reading the client_test.go source it seems that
``current test merely verifies that we can retrieve the Google robots.txt file''.
18:23 < clamiax> I wouldn't that the problem is related to a bad test
implementation.
18:26 < TenOfTen> kmeyer: i'm still here if you want to answer ;)
18:27 < kmeyer> what am I answering?
18:27 < TenOfTen> kmeyer: did you have a working full code example for go
and c++ understanding the same protobuf data?
18:27 < kmeyer> not one I'm willing to publish right now :)
18:29 < TenOfTen> okay.  any idea if some types aren't working in go?  these
are the ones i tried with, my .proto file http://paste.pocoo.org/show/224987/
18:29 < TenOfTen> i couldnt find info on how to use the repeated types with
the go api
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18:33 < kmeyer> no idea, sorry
18:34 < clamiax> brb
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18:41 < clamiax> re
18:41 < clamiax> I'm trying to disable http test (but still leaving the net
test there).
18:41 < clamiax> Hope it'll work.
18:42 < clamiax> omg
18:42 < clamiax> Lots of others network-related errors now, all ending with
network unreacheable
18:42 < clamiax> I'm going to disable the network tests.
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18:53 < clamiax> it worked.  2 known bugs.  It's okay
18:54 < clamiax> thx for your help.
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20:42 < MizardX> Given a format (f string) and a slice of values (a
[]interface{}), is there any simple way of formatting f using values from a?
20:43 < MizardX> fmt.Sprintf() only accepts varargs.
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20:54 < virl> how active is the go community?
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20:56 < Jimmio> Does a writing something to a channel cause the thread to
wait until something reads it or does it add it to it and continue on?
20:57 < exch> Jimmio: that depends on whether or not the channel is biffered
and if there is space in the channel
20:57 < Jimmio> Does writing*
20:57 < exch> if there is no space, it will block and wait
20:58 < Jimmio> You can specify if it should be buffered and the size of it?
o.o
20:58 < Jimmio> I had no idea.
20:58 < exch> yes
20:58 < exch> ch := make(chan int, 123)
20:58 < exch> where 123 is the size of the buffer
20:58 < Jimmio> 123 in that case, being one hundred twenty three ints?
20:58 < exch> yes
21:01 < Jimmio> Thanks :D
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21:05 < exch> you can also prevent the blocking behaviour on a non-buffered
or full channel.  'ok := c <- data' ok will be a boolean indicating success or
failure.  it's true when the value could be pushed into the channel.  false
otherwise.  This wont block
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21:21 < Jimmio> Thanks!  :D
21:22 < virl> I just tried to compile go on my 64 bit machine, it's not
ready fully for x86_64, is it?
21:23 < vrtical> virl: works fine for me.  I'm a noob, but I'm sure there
are people here who can help you if you have problems.
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21:26 < EthanG> virl: it was released for x86, x86_64 and arm at the same
time, and I got the impression if any arch support was less mature it was the arm
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21:28 < virl> ./all.bash stops while compiling libcgo
21:29 < virl> ups..  I think I got the reason
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21:29 < EthanG> ah ok ^^'
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21:37 < Jimmio> How do I declare a variable as type error?  (as in, the
error type that items tend to return)
21:37 < exch> they are of type os.Error
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21:47 < virl> EthanG, never mistaken your home box with your laptop which is
a x86_64
21:47 < EthanG> ah XD;;
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