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00:15 < akrill> am i correct in assuming you can use -> and <- with
anything that defines a Send/Recv interface?
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00:17 < exch> not as far as I know.  Never seen anything to that effect, but
I may have missed something
00:20 < akrill> -tests this-
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00:21 < exch> Lemme know how that works out
00:21 < akrill> will do
00:24 < bytbox> I'm having a problem with godoc - although it displays the
package comment for my package on the package page itself, it does not display it
on the page with the list of packages.  I've noticed a similar phenomenon with
official go packages, like exp.4s.  Anyone know why this is?
00:25 < akrill> exch: ya, doesnt work :-/ too bad, eh?
00:25 < DavidJones> wait, what?
00:25 < exch> mm yea shame.
00:26 < DavidJones> I would like to see that Send/Recv interface you were
talking about...
00:26 < DavidJones> There is no operator overloading
00:26 < DavidJones> but you probably could do type MyType chan bool
00:26 < akrill> hmm...
00:27 < exch> Is it possible those interfaces implement a function that
returns a channel?  Cos that would enable the use of <- and ->
00:27 < DavidJones> AND I think I have to go to bed now because my mind
feels like a huge 4-dimensional pool of crushed ice.
00:27 < exch> gn
00:27 < DavidJones> so sleep tight, pals.
00:27 < akrill> night!
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00:30 < akrill> in order for synchronous communication to happen between
exporter and importer the importer would need to signal the exporter when its
ready to receive
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00:31 * akrill ponders
00:32 < exch> Doing it over the same channel would pose a problem I assume..
The only other solution i see is to open a second synchronization channel
specifically intended to pass state 'messages' across
00:32 < akrill> you could do it over the same channel easily actually
00:33 < exch> That would certainly be preferable
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01:14 < bytbox> Issue filed for that (don't have time to hack at godoc):
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=953
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01:17 < akrill> wow.  can you believe that making netchan synchronous only
took 4 lines of code?
01:17 < exch> :p not bad
01:23 < akrill> now for bidirectional comms
01:23 < akrill> which will be much more difficult
01:23 < akrill> as it will most probably involve some locks
01:23 < akrill> dont want 2 threads writing to the same socket at once and
all that
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02:27 < plexdev> http://is.gd/dFkhZ by [Vinu Rajashekhar] in
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime/extern.go: clear a small error in a comment.
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02:46 < araujo> []byte(string) ...  such a conversion is valid?
02:46 < exch> yes
02:46 < araujo> hi there exch , thanks :)
02:47 < exch> so is []int("foo") It gives the unicode runes instead of bytes
02:47 < araujo> ooh nice to know
02:47 < araujo> makes sense
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02:51 < dbs> Hrm.  Is it normal for http://godashboard.appspot.com/package
to be "over its serving quota"?
02:52 < Tonnerre> I'm afraid so
02:52 < exch> that's been the case for a few days
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02:54 < dbs> Alas.  Makes it hard to find out if someone else has scratched
my itch already :)
02:55 < Tonnerre> I'm afraid the answer is something like «Try again in
August»
02:55 < Tonnerre> «That failing, try September»
02:55 < exch> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/ may list a few 'scratches' :)
02:56 < dbs> exch: thanks :)
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02:58 < dbs> Tonnerre: Maybe somebody who knows somebody at Google could get
that quota increased, eh?
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03:00 < Tonnerre> dbs, depends if that person is also the one who set up the
dashboard
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03:00 < bytbox> they claim to be working on it
03:00 < Tonnerre> (Or so I guess)
03:00 < bytbox> (more specifically, Andrew Gerrand does)
03:01 < bytbox> dbs: check the lists on cat-v.org - they're generally the
same (curiosity: which itch?)
03:02 < dbs> bytbox: right, was cruising through the lists thanks to exch.
two itches: 1) an XMPP client; 2) a MARC parsing/editing library
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03:04 < bytbox> dbs: interesting (but not itchy :-)
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04:12 < akrill> how on earth can i capture keyboard input
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04:24 < dbs> akrill: os.Stdin and bufio.NewReader() methinks
04:24 < akrill> ah, interesting
04:25 < exch> akrill:
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/16252095ecaa202b/33a22c6390e22626?show_docid=33a22c6390e22626&pli=1
04:30 < akrill> ok, hmm..
04:30 < akrill> now the next question is, how do i try to grab something
from a channel but not block.
04:31 < exch> if value, ok := <-mychan; ok { yay(value) } else { ohnoes()
}
04:32 < akrill> ah, nify!
04:32 < exch> or you can check for len(mychan) > 0
04:32 < exch> I think the first is a little more idiomatic though
04:33 < akrill> hmm, interesting, says "hammer.go:86: assignment count
mismatch: 2 = 1"
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04:33 < akrill> oh duh
04:33 < akrill> typo
04:34 < akrill> sweet.
04:36 * akrill is writing a high-concurrency distributed http load simulation
system in go
04:38 < araujo> playing a bit with the ebnf package guys ....  trying to
figure how to use it ..  any idea what are the arguments for ebnf.Parse ??
04:39 < araujo> filename = ebnf file , []byte the expression to evaluate ??
04:42 < akrill> how can i make my go app wait for all of its goroutines to
finish before quitting?
04:43 < akrill> im guessing there's no real way to without a channel or
something
04:43 < vrtical> akrill: I think you have to do it manually (read from a
channel from each routine)
04:43 < akrill> :-(
04:43 < vrtical> Could be wrong, that is what I was told but I'm new to
this.
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04:45 * araujo can't think of other way but manually too
04:47 < akrill> hmm
04:47 < akrill> if i object-orient this
04:47 < akrill> i could probably use shared state
04:47 < akrill> just increment an integer
04:47 < akrill> but meh
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06:13 < akrill> ok.  netchan is seriously flakey
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06:22 < akrill> anyone care to take a look at this?  for some reason, the
netchan client refuses to pull in more than 8 msgs no matter how many the server
shoves out
06:22 < akrill> http://bitbucket.org/krillr/hammer-and-nail
06:22 < akrill> (pardon the dust)
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06:29 < nsf> yeah!  the first implementation of multifile packages in gocode
works..  but needs more testing :P
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06:49 < jessta> akrill: I think the netchan package is currently having a
rewrite
06:50 < akrill> good :-p
06:50 < akrill> so, i fixed that problem, now i have this weirdo issue where
net.Dial() is hanging.
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06:51 < akrill> any ideas on how to get this thing to properly time out?
its been hanging for ~ 2 minutes
06:53 < akrill> ah, hmm, seems you replied to something similar earlier
06:53 < akrill> lol
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12:08 < bartbes> 6
12:08 < bartbes> oops
12:09 < bartbes> that wasn't backspace :P
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13:31 < nsf> yay, it looks like finally I was able to manage all this
multifile packages stuff
13:32 < nsf> few more things and the release!
13:33 < bartbes> yay
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13:44 < gabriel9> hi
13:45 < gabriel9> any good ide for this language?
13:45 < gabriel9> or plugin for netbeans
13:45 < gabriel9> also is there any books
13:45 < bartbes> no books
13:45 < gabriel9> i am sorry for so much question
13:46 < nsf> also as far as I know no IDEs with autocompletion features
13:46 < bartbes> ...  yet
13:46 < gabriel9> just need syntax highlight
13:46 < nsf> there is some kind of a plugin for eclipse
13:46 < gabriel9> i don't like autocompletion
13:46 < bartbes> heh, just use vim
13:46 < bartbes> :P
13:47 < nsf> there are syntax highlights for vim, emacs, kate
13:47 < DavidJones> gabriel I use kdevelop/kate
13:47 < bartbes> ah, kate
13:47 < gabriel9> kate is nice
13:47 < bartbes> kate is nice as well
13:47 < gabriel9> or kdevelop
13:47 < nsf> for xcode and for bbcode too
13:47 < bartbes> they both use the same highlighting engine, don't they?
13:47 < DavidJones> kdevelop is quite much kate :D
13:47 < DavidJones> yeah
13:47 < gabriel9> yes
13:48 < gabriel9> it is kate and much more
13:48 < bartbes> I'll just stick with vim
13:48 < bartbes> because everybody knows vim is best
13:48 < gabriel9> there is lots to learn to use vim or emacs
13:48 < nsf> and I nearly finished autocompletion plugin + daemon for vim
13:48 < DavidJones> bartbes, what about acme :D
13:48 < DavidJones> and I personally like emacs more than vim.
13:49 < bartbes> I never heard of acme before
13:49 < DavidJones> http://acme.cat-v.org/
13:49 < nsf> acme has no syntax highlighting
13:49 < nsf> say no to acme :)
13:49 < DavidJones> I never used it though.  I'm not a fan of using a mouse
; )
13:50 < DavidJones> but acme comes from Rob Pike
13:50 < DavidJones> !
13:50 < gabriel9> how do you menage large projects?  like in Java?
13:51 < nsf> DavidJones: I'd say Acme comes from Rob Pike and 1994
13:51 < gabriel9> emacs/vim are nice but you need mouse to some things :)
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13:51 < DavidJones> gabriel emacs and vim don't need mouse...
13:51 < bartbes> well, you could always enable mouse in vim
13:51 < bartbes> but I doubt you need a mouse
13:51 < bartbes> I never use it
13:51 < nsf> I use scroll wheel in vim
13:52 < nsf> sometimes
13:52 < gabriel9> will try emacs again
13:52 < nsf> emacs sucks
13:52 < nsf> it hurts fingers even with caps lock
13:52 < nsf> :)
13:52 < DavidJones> gabriel, if you want to learn emacs, make sure to learn
1 shortcut every day.
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13:53 < DavidJones> once you have learned emacs, it will be very efficient
and effective to use
13:53 < gabriel9> and hov much days i need to learn it all?  :)
13:53 < bartbes> the rest of your life
13:53 < bartbes> and more
13:53 < gabriel9> i use netbeans but it is like elephant
13:54 < nictuku> anyone else bothered by the fact that using x, err: = foo()
inside a for loop is allowed even if err was already set before, and will recreate
a scope-limited err instance?
13:54 < DavidJones> just use kdevelop, it is fine.
13:54 < gabriel9> slow, and ugly
13:54 < exch> nictuku: that takes some getting used to.
13:54 < DavidJones> nictuku, no I'm not bothered by that.  The same should
happen anywhere else, too.
13:54 < exch> I generally tend to predeclare stuff outside of loops now
13:54 < nictuku> so you can't use this for-loop-instance err instance to
return an error for the function.
13:55 < gabriel9> one more big question: Is there jobs for GO? :)
13:55 < nsf> nictuku: it is expected behaviour
13:55 < nsf> in that case you should predeclare 'x' and use 'x, err = foo()'
13:55 < nictuku> it is understandable behavior, but very annoying
13:55 < DavidJones> gabriel9: you mean, enterprises that search for people
who know go?  forget about it :D
13:55 < nictuku> nsf: I got that, yes
13:55 < nsf> but I agree
13:55 < nsf> it is annoying
13:56 < nsf> although I get used to it
13:56 < gabriel9> so stick with Java/php/JS for now and learn this becouse
it is fun to know new languages :)
13:56 < nictuku> my point is it creates very subtle bugs.  One has to learn
to never use := for err within a specific scope
13:56 < nictuku> well, thanks for the discussion.  I won't open a feature
request bug then :-)
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13:58 < exch> It does force you to pay attention to your code, which is
never a bad thing I think :)
13:58 < DavidJones> gabriel9, you learn this first because it has lotsa good
practices, then you learn other languages
13:58 < DavidJones> gabriel9, that way your brain won't be that mangled like
if you'd learn java first.
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14:00 < exch> DavidJones: and have your sense of sanity derailed forever?
You'll never enjoy any language after you've worked with go.  They'll all seem
thuroughly inadequate :p
14:00 < DavidJones> exch that's another feature.  Actually I still enjoy
ruby a lot, as long as it doesn't come to multithreading ; )
14:01 < exch> heh ruby does have an interesting flair
14:01 < gabriel9> DavidJones i already learned Java and php, and now i learn
JS :D
14:01 < exch> I've never written anything serious in it myself, but do enjoy
playing with it.  It allows you to do some very odd things
14:02 < DavidJones> gabriel9 oh no...  it is too late.
14:02 < gabriel9> i am working on sessions for my brain
14:02 < DavidJones> exch like modifying what + means for integers?
14:02 < DavidJones> gabriel9 java is like sessions against your brain
14:02 < nsf> nictuku: I think the compiler should give a warning
14:02 < gabriel9> Why people hate Java
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14:03 < DavidJones> gabriel9 not as much as BASIC or Pascal :D but still
awkward.
14:03 < nsf> in case if 'a, b := ..' a or b exists
14:03 < nsf> but not both
14:03 < gabriel9> javascript is realy strange
14:04 < nictuku> nsf, maybe, but I have a feeling that the Go core
developers are philosophically against compiler warnings.
14:04 < nsf> because this statement will not be purely "declare", but
"declare and redeclare"
14:04 < gabriel9> when i come from Java to JS thre is some trouble
14:04 < nsf> nictuku: yep, probably :)
14:04 < DavidJones> gabriel9
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/msg/1fc625d58729ca83
14:04 < nsf> javascript has nothing to do with java
14:04 < nsf> except similar syntax
14:04 < gabriel9> yes i know that, they say it all the time :D
14:05 < nictuku> nsf, IMHO the language shouldn't allow a "redeclare" for
:=
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14:05 < nsf> nictuku: I think it should :)
14:05 < nsf> but I think it should disallow "declare and redeclare" only
"declare and declare" or "redeclare and redeclare"
14:06 < nsf> but it's a quick thought
14:06 < nsf> feels kinda strange :)
14:06 < nictuku> the doc says: ""Redeclaration does not introduce a new
variable; it just assigns a new value to the original.""
14:07 < nictuku> so if I read correctly, the redeclare should be reusing the
existing err value, no?
14:08 < exch> That sounds a lil inconsistent.  As far as I know, it won't
reuse the existing one.  At leats not if you redeclare in a new scope block
14:08 < exch> *least
14:08 < nictuku> s/existing err value/existing err instance/
14:09 < DavidJones> nsf, I agree.
14:09 < exch> mm it seems it does reuse the existing one
14:09 < gabriel9> DavidJones nice text
14:09 < nsf> nictuku: it's only about "the same block"
14:10 < nsf> in different blocks aka scopes it does declare a new var
14:10 < nictuku> nsf, ah, you're right
14:10 < exch> mm nope it doesnt reuse
14:10 < nsf> the point is, you can't write: a := 10; a := 20
14:10 < nsf> the second statement is an error
14:11 < nsf> but in multiassignments it is possible to do that
14:11 < gabriel9> and yes i find myself in it, but i am new in all this.  I
do programing for year and the half.  There is much for me to learn
14:11 < nsf> in certain cases as described in the spec
14:13 < DavidJones> gabriel9, you should start learning with languages that
are good for your brain, not with those that **** it up.
14:13 < nsf> Go is nice
14:13 < nsf> C++ is a no no :D
14:14 < gabriel9> when i start this one programmer come to me and said:
Learn OO, and for that Java is best, but you need some server side language and
php is best
14:14 < gabriel9> and so i do that
14:15 < gabriel9> :/
14:15 < DavidJones> gabriel9, ruby is the best for OO : )
14:15 < DavidJones> gabriel9, at least from those languages I know
14:15 < gabriel9> do you know Java?
14:15 < nsf> I'd say read a nice book, like: the Art of Unix Programming by
Eric S. Raymond
14:15 < DavidJones> nsf, Id
14:16 < DavidJones> I'd say read everything from Eric S. Raymond, he sure is
a cool guy ;D
14:16 < nsf> :D
14:18 < gabriel9> i have read Matt Weisfeld The OO Thought Process
14:18 < DavidJones> gabriel9, I used Java in the one term I studied
informatics at university, which is 3 years ago.  Then school started to become
tougher and I stopped studying.  I disliked Java so I didn't use it anymore.
14:18 < nsf> and don't read OO books
14:18 < nsf> at all
14:18 < nsf> :D
14:19 < DavidJones> gabriel9, and next octobre I'll really start studying
informatics, but at a much better university.  And this time I won't use Java :D
14:20 < gabriel9> i also dropout from university, but it is not informatics,
and i also planinng to go t
14:21 < DavidJones> I didn't dropout from university oO
14:21 < gabriel9> to university this year
14:21 < gabriel9> i only know that word for something like that :D
14:22 < DavidJones> No no you got it wrong.  I was 15 three years ago
14:22 < gabriel9> eng is not my primary language, this is: Српски
14:22 < DavidJones> and I was going to school and visiting university (fits
much better than studying in this case) parallely
14:23 < gabriel9> aha, now i get it :)
14:23 < DavidJones> but then school became tougher, so I stopped visiting
classes at university
14:24 < gabriel9> i see now, and i understand :)
14:27 < DavidJones> ^^
14:30 < gabriel9> whell i must go and build some themes for wordpress.  It
is nice to talk with you guys.  Best regards.
14:30 < DavidJones> see you : )
14:30 < gabriel9> sure do :)
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14:56 < nictuku> is there a richer logging package somewhere that provides
verbosity control?
14:58 < nictuku> the syslog one that I wrote does something like that but
it's a different beast
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15:05 * araujo wonders if somebody here knows how to use the ebnf package
15:05 < DavidJones> what do you want to do with it?
15:08 < araujo> DavidJones, that package is a generic ebnf library , or only
for go syntax?
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15:10 < DavidJones> to me it seems to be a generic ebnf library
15:11 < DavidJones> but it imports the go/scanner
15:11 < DavidJones> which is a scanner for go only
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15:12 < araujo> DavidJones, right, I am just trying to figure out how to use
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15:21 < DavidJones> araujo what I don't understand right now
15:21 < DavidJones> http://pastebin.com/uZsqDdaz
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15:22 < DavidJones> does this work because of v being a verifier and not a
*verifier?
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15:23 < DavidJones> apart from that, you should just follow the
verifier::verify method
15:23 < araujo> mmmm
15:23 < araujo> DavidJones, I was trying to follow the Parse function ....
15:24 < nsf> type embedding..  check
15:25 < DavidJones> http://golang.org/src/pkg/ebnf/ebnf.go#L180
15:25 < nsf> what's left..  hm..
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15:25 < DavidJones> araujo, there is no Parse function in ebnf.go oO
15:25 < nsf> ah..  'true' cache for packages, local packages and import to a
current namespace
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15:27 < araujo> DavidJones, I think it is exported from other package
15:28 < araujo> but it is there in the ebnf package page
15:28 < araujo> in the Grammar type section
15:32 < DavidJones> cat ebnf.go | grep Parse yields no results on my
machine.
15:33 < DavidJones> the ebnf package seems only to validate an EBNF
15:34 < DavidJones> you hand it a map[ string ] of Productions, and give it
the root Production (via a string)
15:35 < DavidJones> and then it tries to reach all the Productions, and
performs a lexical analysis
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15:37 < araujo> golang.org/src/pkg/ebnf/parser.go#L208
15:37 < araujo> it shows there as package ebnf too
15:37 < DavidJones> ah : )
15:38 < DavidJones> I only saw ebnf.go
15:38 < DavidJones> my fault.
15:38 < exch> almost done with libVLX bindings for Go \o/
15:38 < araujo> well, I was trying to follow that one...  though I am not
sure exactly how it works
15:38 < exch> Think i'll add some example programs afterwards
15:38 < exch> *libVLC
15:40 < DavidJones> exch, good job!
15:41 < DavidJones> araujo, Parse creates an EBNF grammar
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15:56 < DavidJones> by using the input just like go/scanner::Init
15:57 < tumdum> hi, i need to parse some custom file format and would like
to do it in go, what is the best way to do this?  i saw goyacc, is threr something
like gobison?
15:58 < vrtical> bison is gnu yacc, they do the same thing.
15:59 < tumdum> so if i have gramar ready for bison i can use it with yacc?
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16:01 < vrtical> tumdum: I think bison has some extra features; if you
haven't used them then you're fine with yacc.
16:01 < vrtical> (I suspect many people _use_ bison but invoke it in yacc
mode with extra features turned off.  I've never used goyacc by the way)
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16:04 < tumdum> ok, and (f)lex?  I can't find any thing like it.  will i
have to write my own scanner?
16:04 < DavidJones> no lex
16:04 < DavidJones> but they suggested to me using scanner
16:05 < DavidJones> found in pkg/scanner
16:05 < DavidJones> not to be confused with pkg/go/scanner, which is a go
scanner
16:05 < DavidJones> (scanner for go)
16:07 < tumdum> pkg/scanner/ also seems to be made for scanning go
16:08 < DavidJones> that's what I thought, too.
16:08 < DavidJones> but they all keep saying it's a general purpose scanner
;P
16:09 < DavidJones> but look at this:
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16:09 < tumdum> who's 'they'?  ;)
16:09 < DavidJones> http://golang.org/src/pkg/scanner/scanner_test.go
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16:10 < DavidJones> andrew gerrand and other experts.
16:10 < DavidJones> so I believe them.
16:10 < DavidJones> but currently I'm working on something different, so I
haven't checked myself.
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16:24 < tumdum> there seems to be a bug in current content of
http://golang.org/pkg/os/, should this kind of error be reported in issue tracker?
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16:25 < exch> Since that is generated by the godoc program, that would
constitute a bug i said software and therefor validates filing of a bug report :)
16:26 < exch> Think someone already did it though.  It's been mentioned a
few days ago
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16:26 < DavidJones> JEEEZ
16:28 < rsaarelm> Looks like the os package does have the same package
comment in three places in the sources.  Has godoc's behavior with multiple
package comments been defined anywhere?
16:29 < araujo> back
16:29 < araujo> DavidJones, creates an EBFN grammar , but what exactly are
the two arguments?  , filename and []byte ?
16:29 < DavidJones> araujo, look at /go/scanner::Init
16:34 < araujo> "The filename parameter is used as filename in the token"
16:34 < araujo> what that means?  :)
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16:34 < DavidJones> if I understand correctly, filename has no real use
apart from giving the token.Position::String() method some sort of
indentifiability
16:35 < DavidJones> *identifiability
16:35 < araujo> mmm....  I see
16:37 < exch> It's used in error messages when some unknown token is
encountered.  So you know where exactly to look to fix it
16:37 < araujo> I see
16:41 < bytbox> tumdum: I don't think any bugs have been filed for that,
actually - you should probably file.  The closest is
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=953 - which is on a different page.
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17:49 < araujo> DavidJones, so, in Parse , []byte are the EBNF productions
rules?
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17:53 < araujo> by the way, there exist a way to get multi-line string
literals?
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17:55 < exch> araujo: yes, use ` as string delimiters
17:56 < bartbes> exch: is that ' or `?
17:56 < exch> the second one
17:56 < bartbes> okay, wanted to be sure
17:56 < araujo> cool
17:56 < araujo> thanks exch
17:56 < araujo> :)
17:57 < exch> Also handy if you are writing regex patterns.  ` doesn't
interfere with escape sequences in regex patterns which would otherwise invalidate
your string literal
17:58 < bartbes> yay
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18:06 < DavidJones> araujo jup
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20:00 < tensorpudding> Is there a % operator in Go?
20:01 < exch> yes, %
20:01 < tensorpudding> Okay, I didn't see it in the language definition.
20:02 <+iant> It's in the list of Arithmetic operators
20:03 < exch> yay.  libvlc bindings are done
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20:52 < tensorpudding> is gotest able to be used with packages that do not
have a binary?
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21:00 < exch> It automatically builds it's own binary for any package that
includes a foo_test.go file.  where 'foo' is your package name
21:00 < tensorpudding> okay
21:01 < exch> provided you import the go makefiles in your own, cos they
define the appropriate rules
21:01 < exch> include $(GOROOT)/src/Make.$(GOARCH) and include
$(GOROOT)/src/Make.pkg
21:01 < tensorpudding> My makefile imports the Make.$(GOARCH)
21:01 < exch> I'm not sure which one defines the rule, but I think it's the
.pkg one
21:02 < DavidJones> yup
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21:02 < DavidJones> Make.pkg
21:03 < tensorpudding> including Make.pkg causes make to fail with error
21:03 < DavidJones> you have to import it at the end
21:03 < DavidJones> after defining TARG and GOFILES
21:04 < tensorpudding> Oh, I have to specify special rules?
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21:04 < DavidJones> you have to tell the compiler which files you want to
compile
21:05 < exch> like this
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-libvlc/blob/master/libvlc/Makefile
21:05 < DavidJones> and what the resulting binary/package shall be
21:05 < tensorpudding> I already did, using a standard Makefile.
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21:06 < DavidJones> maybe, but that's not the go way.
21:06 < DavidJones> normal makefiles are bloated and ugly.  go makefiles are
clean and beautiful.
21:07 < tensorpudding> I would say that Make.pkg is ugly and is
self-described as such.
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21:08 < tensorpudding> That said, it seems to have simplified things a bit.
21:08 < DavidJones> because the bloatedness and uglyness is all within the
provided makefiles
21:10 < tensorpudding> It wants a special makefile for gotest...
21:11 < tensorpudding> but the page it links to doesn't mention anything
about that
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22:23 < tensorpudding> doh
22:23 < tensorpudding> does gotest assume that your makefile is called
Makefile?
22:23 < tensorpudding> it appears it does
22:24 < exch> I'm not so sure.  I think its the makefile that calls gotest.
not the other way around.  gotest just looks for a *_test.go file
22:24 < exch> I could be wrong though.  haven't tested it sufficiently
22:24 < tensorpudding> I changed the name of my makefile to Makefile and it
worked fine
22:24 < exch> hmm
22:24 < exch> I stand corrected then
22:24 < tensorpudding> I'd gotten into the habit of naming makefiles that
are not compatible GNUmakefile
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22:36 < tensorpudding> Go could use some more helpful debugging information
22:38 < exch> There's a somewhat functional debugger, but it's still very
much WIP as far as I know
22:39 < exch> $GOROOT/src/pkg/exp/ogle
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23:33 < exch> http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/628/vlcjt.png victory \o/
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23:48 < plexdev> http://is.gd/dIi9A by [Daniel Theophanes] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- syscall: add ForkExec, Syscall12 on Windows
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23:53 < tensorpudding> The testing module seems a bit broken.
23:53 < tensorpudding> I'm running code that when compiled separately runs
fine, but is causing gotest much grief
23:54 < tensorpudding> "recursive call during initialization - linker skew"
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23:55 < exch> O.o
23:55 < exch> Never seen that one before
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23:56 < tensorpudding> It has occured on every test I've tried, except for a
sanity check that just printfed a single line
23:57 < tensorpudding> Is it bad that I'm importing the package that I'm
writing the test for?
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23:57 < exch> if it's in a _test.go file, then yes
23:57 < tensorpudding> Yes, it is.
23:58 < exch> the package declaration should be the same as the package you
are working on.  so 'package foo' instead of 'package main'
23:58 < tensorpudding> How do I refer to the code in my foo.go from the
foo_test.go, if I can't import it?
23:58 < tensorpudding> Yes, I did that.
23:58 < tensorpudding> ah, I get it
23:58 < exch> it should then just be accessible as you would expect it to be
23:58 < tensorpudding> Okay wait I don't.
23:58 < exch> No need to prefix the package name
23:58 < tensorpudding> I'm in package foo, and I say foo.Bar, and it's
saying undefined foo
23:59 < exch> you can omit the 'foo.' bit
23:59 < tensorpudding> Okay.
23:59 < exch>
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-libvlc/blob/master/libvlc/libvlc_test.go here's
an example
23:59 < tensorpudding> Okay, thanks, it worked.
23:59 < exch> all the capitalized functions and types are part of the libvlc
package, but so is the test file itself.  So i can just call them directly
23:59 < tensorpudding> My serial implementation worked, but as expected the
goroutine one failed
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