--- Log opened Mon Aug 16 00:00:05 2010 00:12 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-160-160-190.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:13 -!- MizardX [~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:16 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@210.188.173.245] has joined #go-nuts 00:23 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 00:23 < hstimer> anyone here work on the net package? 00:23 -!- scm [justme@d038027.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:25 -!- scm [justme@d019116.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:27 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:33 -!- scm [justme@d019116.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35 -!- scm [justme@d018075.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:38 -!- Fish-Work [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40 -!- scm [justme@d018075.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:41 -!- scm [justme@d039071.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:42 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has joined #go-nuts 00:51 -!- scm [justme@d039071.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:51 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-61-111.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:53 -!- scm [justme@d019006.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 00:55 -!- RobertLJ [~quassel@c-68-44-163-191.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:00 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-160-160-190.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:01 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.137.235.239] has joined #go-nuts 01:04 -!- tokuhiro__ [~tokuhirom@s230.GtokyoFL21.vectant.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:04 -!- tokuhiro__ [~tokuhirom@s230.GtokyoFL21.vectant.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 01:04 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-67-189-24-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:04 -!- djm [~djm@paludis/slacker/djm] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:05 -!- segy [~segfault@pdpc/supporter/active/segy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:05 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-67-189-24-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:05 -!- scm [justme@d019006.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:05 -!- djm [~djm@paludis/slacker/djm] has joined #go-nuts 01:06 -!- segy [~segfault@pdpc/supporter/active/segy] has joined #go-nuts 01:10 -!- mikeg [~michael@ip68-110-226-15.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:13 < nf> hstimer: what's up? 01:14 < hstimer> It is quite a bit more than a simple wrapper around sockets. What was the thinking about it? 01:17 -!- scm [justme@d018111.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 01:18 < hstimer> for instance: 1) why force all sockets to accepting broadcast 01:19 < nbjoerg> grmbl. exit1 01:20 < nbjoerg> who named that functio 01:21 < hstimer> 2) why always set SO_REUSEADDR 01:22 -!- scm [justme@d018111.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:31 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:39 -!- scm [justme@d039160.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 01:39 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 01:42 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 01:44 < nbjoerg> is there any documentation of the pkg/runtime's platform stuff is supposed to do? 01:44 < nbjoerg> e.g. what the assumptions are? 01:46 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@74.193.150.253] has joined #go-nuts 01:48 < hstimer> 3) it appears that the net package is setup to support forking. Why? Is this a Go supported concept? Do people really need this? 01:52 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 01:54 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:55 < nf> to answer 3- people wanted to be able to launch a process and pass the socket to it 01:55 < nf> 2- i don't know 01:55 < nf> 1- i don't understand the question 01:56 -!- Twinzen [~IceChat7@ti0054a380-0090.bb.online.no] has joined #go-nuts 02:04 -!- Xenith [~xenith@2001:470:0:a9:226:b0ff:fee3:3a0c] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:04 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 02:13 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 02:14 < Boney> Re 2. SO_REUSEADDR is in general a good idea. 02:14 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:14 < Boney> it allows your process to re-use a tcp port that has been recently used and closed. 02:15 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 02:15 < Boney> IIRC it should be set for the socket that will be closed to allow another to open more quickly. 02:16 < hstimer> nf: all sockets are set to accept broadcasts. Why? 02:17 < hstimer> nf: by launch a process do you mean fork? fork automatically hands off all sockets 02:20 < nf> forkexec 02:20 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20 < nf> i don't mean fork the running process 02:23 < falconindy> hstimer: doesn't SO_BROADCAST merely _allow_ the reception/transmission of broadcast datagrams? it doesn't necessarily force you to send or accept them 02:25 < hstimer> nf: still all fds are passed to the new process. the option being set closes the fd automatically on exec 02:35 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@74.193.150.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35 -!- mattikus [~mattikus@74.193.150.253] has joined #go-nuts 02:37 < hstimer> falconindy: I think you will get them if you set so_broadcast 02:38 < hstimer> falconindy: only affects udp sockets of course 02:45 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 02:46 -!- qIIp 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-!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:57 -!- bettiah1 [~me@58.35.53.104] has joined #go-nuts 05:00 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has joined #go-nuts 05:01 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 05:03 -!- scm [justme@d039160.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:08 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has left #go-nuts [] 05:09 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has joined #go-nuts 05:11 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has left #go-nuts [] 05:11 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has joined #go-nuts 05:11 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 05:15 -!- savechina [~savechina@210.77.176.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:15 -!- Xenith [~xenith@c-69-181-7-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:15 < nbjoerg> \o/ 05:15 < nbjoerg> cgo is panicing now 05:16 < nbjoerg> I think that's a huge step into the right direction :) 05:19 -!- Xenith [~xenith@c-69-181-7-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 -!- scm [justme@d071034.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 05:33 < nbjoerg> ..and hello world runs 05:47 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:50 -!- nelson [~nelson@rrcs-24-103-219-125.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:00 -!- sacho [~sacho@95-42-124-149.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:13 < nelson> Okay, I checked on CommonProblems, and searched the issues database. I'm getting this error: 06:13 < nelson> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:9:27: error: gnu/stubs-64.h: No such file or directory 06:13 -!- linac [~lin@122.90.108.19] has joined #go-nuts 06:14 < tensorpudding> are you running a 64-bit OS? 06:15 < nelson> ahhhhh, yep, that's the problem. i686. 06:15 < tensorpudding> that file is #included from gnu/stubs.h if __WORDSIZE == 64, when i peruse it on my system 06:16 < tensorpudding> somehow the __WORDSIZE macro might be confused 06:17 < nelson> Maybe ./all.bash should consult uname -m before getting that far? 06:17 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:17 < nelson> now it's on to the tests, so that's the problem. 06:17 < tensorpudding> it reads GOARCH to know the arch, presumably 06:18 < tensorpudding> but I'm not sure what sets __WORDSIZE 06:18 < tensorpudding> you do have your $GOARCH set properly right? 06:18 < nelson> hmmm.... if it's (in theory) doing cross-compilation all the time, then the OS that I'm running shouldn't matter, no? 06:19 < nelson> Well, the value of $GOARCH shouldn't matter until I try to run something. 06:21 < tensorpudding> so you're doing cross-compiling to amd64? 06:22 < nelson> well, that (was) the theory, but it wasn't working on my Ubuntu 9.10 system. 06:23 < nelson> passes all the tests if I native compile to 386. 06:23 < tensorpudding> it sounds like cross-compilation might not actually work, if it is trying to find headers which don't exist on your system 06:24 < tensorpudding> i'm sorry, i don't know anything about cross-compilation in go 06:24 < nelson> yeah, that would be my assumption. 06:25 < Namegduf> Go is "always crosscompiling" 06:26 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has joined #go-nuts 06:26 < nelson> http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=106 <--- somebody else tried the same thing. 06:26 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@dslb-084-059-076-150.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:26 < tensorpudding> you don't have the full suite of go compilers available though 06:27 < nelson> interestingly, yes, I do. 06:27 < Namegduf> Your statement suffers from an underlying error. 06:27 < tensorpudding> i mean, in the normal install 06:27 < Namegduf> A compiler can produce output for any architecture. 06:27 < tensorpudding> can it? 06:27 < Namegduf> The different compilers are for different *host* architectures. 06:28 < tensorpudding> I always thought the 6 in 6g means "produce amd64 code", not "runs on amd64 systems" 06:28 < tensorpudding> well, i am enlightened 06:28 < nelson> ah! the docs are confusing, then. 06:28 < Namegduf> If I'm wrong, then you should have all of them 06:28 < nelson> "Note that $GOARCH and $GOOS identify the target environment, not the environment you are running on. In effect, you are always cross-compiling. " 06:29 < nelson> That is confusing as heck! 06:29 < tensorpudding> so wait 06:29 < nelson> http://golang.org/doc/install.html <--- comes from here. 06:29 < tensorpudding> you need to change $GOARCH to compile for a different target? 06:29 < Namegduf> Doesn't seem massively hard compared to what you normally need to do to cross compile. 06:30 < nelson> Namegduf: tensorpudding is as confused as I am. 06:30 < tensorpudding> I'd think that flags would be nicer 06:31 < nelson> it sure looks to me like $GOARCH must name the current architecture for which you are compiling the go language compilers. 06:31 < Namegduf> Right. 06:31 < Namegduf> Because when you're building the Go language compilers 06:31 < Namegduf> You want to build for your own architecture 06:31 < nelson> The compilers themselves will produce code for different architectures, and have different names. 06:31 < nelson> Okay, so that brings me around to asking: "What's wrong with uname -m?" 06:32 < tensorpudding> But then how do you cross-compile? 06:32 < Namegduf> I'm sure that works awesomely on Windows. 06:32 < nelson> http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=106#c4 <--- this guy makes the same mistake. 06:32 < Namegduf> You change GOARCH and GOOS when you're not building the Go compiler, and you DO want to cross compile 06:32 < Namegduf> Harder than flags, debatable. 06:32 < Namegduf> Confusing, not really 06:32 < nelson> Namegduf: Windows sucks; Unix doesn't. 06:32 < tensorpudding> That doesn't work. 06:33 < nelson> Namegduf: if I'm confused, tensorpudding is confused, and the.wabbott is confused, then it's confusing. 06:33 < Namegduf> nelson: You mean the the.wabbott who made an additional post the same day, "Next error was cleared up by getting the latest build today. I am all installed now. 06:33 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #go-nuts 06:34 < Namegduf> Because they don't sound confused 06:34 < tensorpudding> If you pass a different value of GOARCH to the makefile, you'll get it trying to use 8g 06:34 < tensorpudding> err, if you pass GOARCH=386 on an amd64 system 06:34 < Namegduf> I guess that explains how it works. 06:37 < nelson> no, it doesn't. 06:37 < nelson> "Note that $GOARCH and $GOOS identify the target environment, not the environment you are running on. In effect, you are always cross-compiling. " 06:38 < nelson> if that was true, then why do I have both 6g and 8g compilers? 06:38 < Namegduf> Apparantly GOARCH does that by being used to pick the compiler. 06:38 < nelson> Surely if I had identified my "target environment", then it would only compile one of them. 06:38 < Namegduf> Why? 06:39 < Namegduf> Then it'd be no good if you wanted to change your target environment later. 06:39 < nelson> If my target is 386, then I only need 8g, right? 06:39 < Namegduf> Sounds like. 06:40 < Namegduf> But why would you expect it to only build compilers for the current target? 06:40 < nelson> "Note that $GOARCH and $GOOS identify the target environment, ...." 06:40 < Namegduf> Right, that doesn't answer my question. 06:40 < nelson> it answers your question. 06:40 < Namegduf> No it doesn't. 06:40 < tensorpudding> when you install go, it builds compilers only for the environment specified in GOARCH/GOOS 06:41 < Namegduf> Hmm. You're right, so nelson is making things up or has otherwise screwed up his installation. 06:42 < nelson> nelson@nelson-desktop:~/go/src$ echo $GOARCH;ls ~/bin/6g 06:42 < nelson> 386 06:42 < nelson> /home/nelson/bin/6g 06:42 < Namegduf> I dunno. You screwed it up? 06:42 < nelson> ahhhhhh, I see! Okay, I'm less confused now. Yes, I screwed it up. 06:42 * nelson needs to sleep..... 06:42 < Namegduf> My logic was conditional on the setup being correct. 06:43 < Namegduf> So yeah... 06:43 < tensorpudding> still, that doesn't mean you can do cross-compilation 06:43 < nelson> 'nite all, thanks for the help! 06:44 < Namegduf> Apparantly, you need to specify the target GOOS and GOARCH and build the compiler stuffs for that target 06:44 < Namegduf> If I change GOOS, it starts building, but can't find imports 06:45 < Namegduf> Which makes sense if the stdlib is not built for the target OS 06:45 < nelson> maybe, but I'm not going to be tempted into putting my foot into it a second time! 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14:22 < Tonnerre> vi 14:22 < nbjoerg> cat 14:22 < Tonnerre> maw 14:22 < nbjoerg> dd if=/dev/urandom 14:23 < nbjoerg> (don't forget to hit C-c) 14:23 < str1ngs> ed! 14:23 < bartbes> rm 14:23 < Tonnerre> Oh, I'm not the only one who uses ed 14:23 < savechina> Has anyone developed under the windows? 14:24 < savechina> editplus in windows 14:24 < Tonnerre> No, nobody has ever developed under Windows, that's why there are no programs for Windows 14:24 < Tonnerre> savechina, there's gvim for windows 14:24 < bartbes> notepad++, scite, there are enough editors in windows 14:24 < savechina> its good 14:25 < Tonnerre> There's also emacs for Windows if people want the full treat 14:25 < Tonnerre> But Windows lacks a decent ed :/ 14:25 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:26 < savechina> I learned emacs ,but I think it's difficult 14:28 < savechina> who using golang in project? 14:39 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.21.124.111] has joined #go-nuts 14:49 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:51 -!- scm [justme@d071034.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:52 < MizardX> I use gvim on windows 14:53 < MizardX> It's not restricted to a console window. It has good unicode and font support 14:53 < Tonnerre> gvim under NetBSD / Linux / * is not restricted to a console window either 14:54 < MizardX> No, but many other linux programs ported to windows are. 14:58 -!- scm [justme@c133168.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 14:59 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 15:03 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 15:05 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 15:06 < taruti> What is the current status of gccgo? 15:06 < taruti> Especially for calling foreign code? 15:06 -!- ilovefairuz [~ilovefair@unaffiliated/violinappren] has joined #go-nuts 15:06 -!- ilovefairuz [~ilovefair@unaffiliated/violinappren] has left #go-nuts [] 15:10 -!- jcao219 [~Jimmy_Cao@124.126.158.33] has joined #go-nuts 15:14 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1D515.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:15 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1D515.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has joined #go-nuts 15:15 -!- Shyde [~shyde@HSI-KBW-078-043-070-132.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1D515.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:18 < str1ngs> vim console only way to go :P 15:20 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 15:20 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-182-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 15:23 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1D515.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekgtz by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- A+C: Mikkel Krautz (individual CLA) 15:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekgtE by [Mikkel Krautz] in 3 subdirs of go/src/pkg/ -- crypto/tls: client certificate support. 15:31 -!- savechina [~savechina@221.222.9.204] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:33 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-jerdalpoexqdpfcv] has joined #go-nuts 15:37 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has joined #go-nuts 15:44 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.92.43] has quit [Quit: E se abbasso questa leva che succ...] 15:44 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.92.43] has joined #go-nuts 15:44 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 15:47 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 15:52 -!- leimy_ [~dave@pool-71-164-13-100.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leimy_] 15:56 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 15:58 -!- tumdum [~tumdum@unaffiliated/tumdum] has left #go-nuts [] 16:00 -!- leimy_ [~dave@pool-71-164-13-100.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:01 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-138-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:08 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176103167.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:09 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #go-nuts 16:11 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176103167.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:13 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 16:16 -!- jramnani [~jramnani@chml01.drwholdings.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:17 < nbjoerg> what is a good person or place to ask about legal issues? 16:20 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.112.23.154] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:20 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@x1-6-00-0e-2e-a3-e0-23.k377.webspeed.dk] has joined #go-nuts 16:21 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.112.23.154] has joined #go-nuts 16:23 < sacho> not here? 16:24 < leimy_> a lawyer? 16:24 < leimy_> :-) 16:24 < Namegduf> Yeah, I'd suggest hiring a lawyer. 16:24 < nbjoerg> it is not so much my problem 16:25 < leimy_> well it depends on the issue, but if you want qualified legal advice, you need a lawyer 16:25 < nbjoerg> question is whether contributions based on code owned by third parties are acceptable for platform support 16:25 < nbjoerg> or if I have to reinvent the wheel 16:25 < leimy_> my understanding is they can be. 16:25 < leimy_> The GNU project requests that people submitting code hand over copyright for example 16:26 < Namegduf> If the licence is appropriate. 16:26 < nbjoerg> 4 clause BSD :( 16:26 < leimy_> also, you may want to have contributors offer that they're not embedding trade secrets or violating patents that they know about when they give you such code. 16:26 < nbjoerg> unlikely 16:26 < leimy_> That was the entire basis of the SCO "owns" linux claim. 16:27 < nbjoerg> it is essentially the code to build the system call tables for NetBSD 16:27 < leimy_> it may be unlikely but if you want to cover your bases... people can request that. 16:27 < nbjoerg> I would prefer if I can be lazy and just reuse the NetBSD code for that 16:27 < leimy_> You'll find that Microsoft has patents on things like a "tree view" in a GUI. 16:27 < leimy_> so I wouldn't just bet that any arbitrary code isn't patented by someone. 16:27 < leimy_> this is why software patents are stupid by the way. 16:28 < nbjoerg> you don't have to tell me 16:28 < leimy_> People don't compete on good implementations, they compete based on ideas. 16:28 < leimy_> the problem is if you don't patent software, then you have to deal with others who do. 16:28 < leimy_> so you may as well patent software... it's cyclical. 16:29 < leimy_> it's like mutually assured destruction... makes no sense, but it's a "stable" setting. 16:29 -!- jessta [~jessta@124-168-116-223.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 16:29 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has joined #go-nuts 16:30 < leimy_> jessta: thanks for the response. 16:30 < leimy_> I was getting worked up over the special text for the composite literals, but I think it makes sense now in a different light. 16:30 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:31 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #go-nuts 16:31 < bartbes> I'm going to create a country where downloading isn't just legal, but preventing up/downloading is illegal, then I'll go end DRM by sueing companies to death >:) 16:32 < bartbes> a bit ambitious, I know 16:32 < bartbes> but a man's got to have dream 16:32 < bartbes> *dreams 16:34 < jessta> bartbes: wouldn't the companies just not trade in your country? 16:35 < bartbes> yes, there are some flaws 16:35 < bartbes> but if I get an internet hub in it 16:35 < bartbes> and locate my country in a strategic point... 16:37 < Namegduf> "an Internet hub" 16:37 < Namegduf> Please do learn how the Internet works 16:37 < bartbes> yes yes those things are called internet exchanges I believe 16:37 < bartbes> don't think I don't know that 16:38 < Namegduf> Every country has lots of those. 16:38 < bartbes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_exchange_point 16:38 < bartbes> exactly 16:38 < bartbes> but if you get some large 16:38 < bartbes> preferably intercontinental 16:38 < Namegduf> Then no one will care 16:38 < bartbes> there is lots of data going through your exchange 16:38 < bartbes> but yeah, it's never going to work 16:38 < Namegduf> Why would there be? 16:38 < bartbes> don't kill my dream please 16:39 < bartbes> dude somehow you make me feel like I'm an 8 year old fat kid who never finished first grade 16:39 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-138-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39 < bartbes> and who now roams the internet to rant and go on chatroulette 16:39 < Namegduf> Sorry, I think. 16:40 < bartbes> yes, I'mnot that 16:40 * bartbes goes back into hiding before he feels even worse 16:40 -!- macroron [~ron@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:41 -!- tokumine [~kunio@88.96.173.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41 -!- sacho [~sacho@213.91.244.15] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:44 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 16:48 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 16:51 -!- welterde [~welterde@not.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 16:54 -!- bettiah [~me@58.35.62.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:54 -!- RobertLJ_ [~quassel@c-68-44-163-191.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:58 -!- acts_as [~acts_as@208.236.105.27] has joined #go-nuts 17:01 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.112.23.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:02 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 17:08 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 17:12 -!- Agon-laptop [~marcel@HSI-KBW-095-208-003-128.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:13 < jessta> leimy_: no worries, it was only when I started looking through the spec that I realised it was an implementation issue 17:14 -!- sacho [~sacho@95-42-124-149.btc-net.bg] has joined #go-nuts 17:15 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-jerdalpoexqdpfcv] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:17 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@x1-6-00-0e-2e-a3-e0-23.k377.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. 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It helps me find elegant solutions to tricky code problems without fail \o/ 19:17 < nsf> lol 19:17 < nsf> I really need to start working on the refactoring part 19:18 < nsf> because I suck at making names for everything in the code 19:18 < nsf> and renaming is painful 19:21 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22 -!- bj_990 [~bj@12.200.27.66] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 19:23 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176103167.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 -!- navigator [~navigator@p54897DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:27 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has joined #go-nuts 19:28 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@201.22.23.234.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 19:33 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 19:37 -!- obiwahn [~heini@obiwahn.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:40 -!- Agon-laptop [~marcel@HSI-KBW-095-208-003-128.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 19:51 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.113.125.76] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:51 -!- jdp [~gu@24.238.32.162.res-cmts.segr.ptd.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.113.125.76] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 -!- artefon [~thiagon@150.164.2.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53 -!- saschpe [~quassel@mgdb-4d0cf834.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 -!- obiwahn [~heini@217.20.118.191] has joined #go-nuts 19:56 -!- eikenberry [~jae@ivanova.zhar.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:01 -!- fenicks [~christian@log77-3-82-243-254-112.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:01 < fenicks> hello 20:06 < jessta> hi 20:10 < nbjoerg> what is noteclear exactly supposed to do? 20:10 < nbjoerg> and what are the constraints it is used under? 20:16 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: peace in teh middle east] 20:22 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 20:23 -!- tvw [~tv@e176012236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:28 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has joined #go-nuts 20:30 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:33 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekArb by [Russ Cox] in go/test/garbage/ -- test/garbage: do not try to parse package bignum, which is gone. 20:35 < jessta> nbjoerg: noteclear? 20:37 < nbjoerg> jessta: as in the complement to lock/unlock 20:37 < nbjoerg> from runtime 20:42 -!- zcram [~zcram@8.177.190.90.sta.estpak.ee] has joined #go-nuts 20:42 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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22:02 < KirkMcDonald> x.(T) 22:04 < matt444> wonderful 22:04 < matt444> thank you 22:08 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:4335:3ba6:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:10 -!- derferman [~derferman@24-176-246-220.dhcp.crcy.nv.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:12 -!- matt444 [601c2542@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.28.37.66] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:14 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekHgZ by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ -- regexp: grow slices dynamically in the 'All' routines. 22:33 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:34 -!- jramnani [~jramnani@chml01.drwholdings.com] has quit [Quit: jramnani] 22:36 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:36 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@dslb-084-059-076-150.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 22:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekIfj by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ -- fmt/print: remove a TODO regarding printing renamed byte slices. 22:41 -!- Xurix [~Luixsia@AToulouse-254-1-30-111.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 22:52 -!- Fish-Work [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has joined #go-nuts 22:57 -!- tvw [~tv@e176012236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.21.124.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:29 -!- qIIp [~qIIp@134.29.57.72] has joined #go-nuts 23:30 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:31 -!- zcram [~zcram@8.177.190.90.sta.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:32 -!- nf [~nf@124-169-28-186.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 23:32 -!- jessta [~jessta@124-168-116-223.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:39 -!- jessta [~jessta@124-168-116-223.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 23:39 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.155.106] has joined #go-nuts 23:40 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 -!- napsy [~luka@212.235.174.112] has joined #go-nuts 23:47 -!- ExtraSpice [~XtraSpice@88.118.32.225] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54 -!- derferman [~derferman@24-176-246-220.dhcp.crcy.nv.charter.com] has quit [Quit: derferman] 23:54 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ekN0B by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/template/ -- template: retain leading space if the line is not an action. 23:59 -!- bettiah [~me@58.35.63.110] has joined #go-nuts --- Log closed Tue Aug 17 00:00:05 2010