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00:18 < dho> that's fine...  Maybe I should bug Kai about that
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00:29 < bfrank> be great to see a plan9 port of go
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01:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/fed25 by [Robert Griesemer] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- fix various comments
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01:34 < jcao219> woah!  when did golang.org change so much
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01:38 < exch> with the new release a few days ago
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01:47 * araujo wonders if this new Go version has something like unions
01:48 < cbeck> Don't believe so
01:48 < Namegduf> No.
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02:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/fei9m by [Alex Brainman] in go/src/pkg/os/ --
os: make RemoveAll() work on windows
02:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/fei9p by [Andrew Gerrand] in go/doc/ -- doc:
fix typo in go_for_cpp_programmers.html
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07:01 < stupidbob307> How do you substring in Go?
07:01 < enferex> So, looking at the runtime source, am I correct in saying
that the architecture-specific "gogo()" is responsible for calling the scheduler?
07:02 < bortzmeyer> stupidbob307: the strings module
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07:03 < cbeck> stupidbob307: Or by slicing
07:06 < stupidbob307> ok so I know I can do something like "hello"[1] but
that returns 101.  Which is the ascii for e correct?  how do I actually get "e"?
07:06 < cbeck> stupidbob307: "hello"[1:2]
07:08 < cbeck> string[l:u] gets the substring from [l:u)
07:08 < stupidbob307> Got ya, so used to python.  That should have been
obvious.  Ok I don't know if you know python, but is there anything similar to
dir() in go?
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07:08 < cbeck> I don't, what does it do?
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07:09 < cbeck> Ah, I see
07:09 < cbeck> the %v flag to Sprintf might do what you want
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07:11 < cbeck> Also try the %#v flag
07:11 < stupidbob307> thanks a lot.  love irc folks.  Always really helpful.
07:11 < cbeck> Any time
07:12 < stupidbob307> one more.  What is the best way to convert and int to
a string?
07:13 < stupidbob307> strconv.Itoa(i) ?
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07:14 < cbeck> Depends what you're doing with it
07:14 < cbeck> But probably yes
07:14 < stupidbob307> alright thanks.
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11:11 < nsf> uhm..  but what if I want to use Stringer interface in a
slightly different sense than fmt does, should I define my own Stringer or use
fmt's?  In general does it makes sense having different interfaces with the same
methods signature?
11:11 < nsf> s/makes/make/
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11:30 < wrtp> nsf: well, there's os.Error and fmt.Stringer already...
11:30 < nsf> yep
11:30 < wrtp> so, yes, but it depends how you wanna use it
11:30 < nsf> yes, I've figured out that in my case it's not necessary
11:31 < nsf> because I will use it as a part of my interface
11:31 < nsf> and frankly it doesn't really matter whether I will use
fmt.Stringer or simply add String() string method
11:31 < nsf> with exception that fmt.Stringer is one more dependency
11:33 < wrtp> i bet you use fmt already...  :-)
11:33 < nsf> no
11:33 < nsf> well, for debug printing yes
11:33 < nsf> but it will be removed
11:34 < nsf> there will be only one dep, maybe two
11:34 < nsf> utf8 and sort
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11:37 < wrtp> in which case, you're probably best not importing fmt
11:37 < wrtp> just add a String method as you said.
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14:26 < exch> O_o Google's search page has no <html> tag..  it has
<head>..</head> and a <body> tag, but no </body> and
</html>.  You'd think that a company as prolific about the use of
webtechnologies could at least manage to supply somewhat decent markup
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14:28 < exch> At least they remove excess whitespace from the page source.
I suppose that counts for something
14:29 < nbjoerg> hm.  interesting
14:31 <+iant> When I run a wget on http://google.com, I see an <html>
tag
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14:33 < exch> firefox and chrome omit it.  perhaps it's some javascript
artifact
14:34 < exch> ah the frontpage has the tags.  A searchresult page doesnt
14:34 < napsy> how do I join a gorutine so the main function will wait until
the rutine finishes?
14:34 <+iant> huh
14:34 <+iant> napsy: have the goroutine send something on a synchronous
channel and have the main function receive from the channel
14:35 < napsy> ok
14:35 < mpl> exch: oh my, you're right...
14:36 < exch> frontpage also has no closing html tag
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14:52 < nickaugust> can i write a function that accepts any array of structs
without knowing the struct ahead of time?  I want a PrintTable() function that
takes any array (or slice rather) of
14:52 < nickaugust> ...  struct type.  i think we went over why this isnt
possible last week but can someone refresh my memory
14:53 < nickaugust> ie a function that would that []Contact or []Company
14:54 <+iant> nickaugust: your function would have to accept interface{} and
use the reflect package to pull it apart
14:55 < nickaugust> iant: so with the reflect package i dont have to do a
type assertion?
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14:56 <+iant> right, you don't need to do a type assertion to your types,
you can just the functions in the reflect package to access slice elements and
struct fields
14:56 <+iant> it's a rather tedious way to work, though
14:56 <+iant> that's what the fmt package does, for example
14:56 < nickaugust> yeah I was going to do this last time but someone
convinced me it was a dumb idea.  now i'm thinking its what i want again..  :/
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15:14 < nickaugust> what does the ...  mean in "func Scan(a ...interface{})
(n int, err os.Error) {"?
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15:23 < gmilleramilar> napsy: you could also use something like this ...
http://michaelspeer.blogspot.com/2010/03/go-language-is-lovely.html
15:23 < gmilleramilar> (note you have to kind of combine the version in the
post and the one in the comment.
15:24 < napsy> ok
15:25 < gmilleramilar> I find it to be cleaner than keeping track of a bunch
of explicit channels for a large number of goroutines.
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15:29 < gmilleramilar> here's my version http://pastie.org/1165077
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16:53 < agonopol> is it possible to have a const map with initialized
values?
16:53 < cbeck> Not that I know of
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17:21 < pocket_> Hello.
17:21 < skelterjohn> hi
17:22 < skelterjohn> welcome to the first day of the rest of your life
17:22 < pocket_> :)
17:23 < pocket_> How can I setup where to put outfile in Makefile?
17:23 < cbeck> But, but I thought *yesterday* was the first day of the rest
of my life
17:23 < skelterjohn> I don't quite understand the question, pocket_
17:23 < skelterjohn> cbeck: you've got a head start
17:24 < pocket_> I write very simple Makefile for my project like this:
17:24 < cbeck> pocket_: the compiler and linker both accept a '-o
/path/to/file' flag
17:24 < pocket_> include $(GOROOT)/src/Make.inc
17:24 < pocket_> TARG=goproj
17:24 < pocket_> GOFILES=src/main.go
17:24 < pocket_> include $(GOROOT)/src/Make.cmd
17:24 < skelterjohn> pocket_: use pastebin
17:24 < pocket_> masato@iMac-network: ~/Desktop/GoL
17:24 < skelterjohn> don't paste multi-line files into the irc channel
17:24 < pocket_> oops sorry ..
17:25 < skelterjohn> but that makefile will build an executable with the
name matching your TARG variable
17:26 < skelterjohn> the included makefiles that come with the go
distribution are good for building simple executables and libraries, but you can
certainly 'roll your own'
17:26 < skelterjohn> to do something a bit different
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17:27 < pocket_> Thanks.
17:31 < pocket_> Hmm...
17:32 < pocket_> I want to build a tool which generate skelton project of Go
language.
17:34 < pocket_> Is there any tool to build project skelton already?
17:36 < skelterjohn> hum
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17:36 < skelterjohn> like, an executable that will build and print hello,
world?
17:37 < pocket_> Yes.
17:38 < pocket_> Like leiningen of Clojure.
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17:51 < agonopol> is there a way of having multiple packages in one project?
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17:56 < skelterjohn> not if by "project" you mean "something built by using
one of the makefile templates"
17:56 < agonopol> so one makefile -> one package?
17:56 < skelterjohn> one of the provided makefiles -> one package
17:56 < skelterjohn> you can write your own to create however many packages
you like
17:57 < skelterjohn> just have it collect different sets of .go files when
you run 5g/6g/8g
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17:58 < agonopol> humm…is there a reason for that choice?
17:59 < pocket_> Hum.  Thanks > skelterjohn
17:59 < skelterjohn> agonopol: keeping things simple?
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18:00 < skelterjohn> if you want to make two packages, presumably they don't
share any source, so you can put them in different directories
18:00 < skelterjohn> or just have two different makefiles
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18:00 < skelterjohn> though then you'd have to say "make -f
thePkg1makefile", etc
18:00 < skelterjohn> instead of just "make"
18:01 < pocket_> thanks
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18:01 < agonopol> yea….  it seems like having the ability of having multiple
packages in project is nice, for example, i want to be able to reuse same concepts
in different implementations and i don't want to create different names for them
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