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00:18 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glgdU by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ -- gob:
must register basic types to store them in interfaces.
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00:35 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glhvo by [Andrew Gerrand] in
go/misc/dashboard/builder/ -- builder: pass GOHOSTOS and GOHOSTARCH to build
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01:04 < gastal> does go have functions to handle big/little endian
conversion?
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01:05 < exch> gastal: encoding/binary may be of help
01:06 < gastal> exch thanks
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02:28 < raylu> i think i'm misunderstanding
http://golang.org/src/pkg/html/escape.go#L110
02:28 < raylu> fmt.Println(output); fmt.Println(html.UnescapeString(output))
02:28 < raylu> prints the following line twice: 10^20 = 1.0 ×
10<sup>20</sup>
02:32 < Tv> raylu: " // TODO(nigeltao): Handle things like "中" or
"中".  "?
02:32 < raylu> yeah, but this is a 3-digit escape
02:33 < raylu> sorry, wrong link.
http://golang.org/pkg/html/#UnescapeString
02:33 < raylu> For example, "á" unescapes to "รก", as does "á"
and "&xE1;".
02:33 < Tv> where does it handle any numeric escapes?
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02:34 < Tv> i may be blind but i'm not seeing anything than entity lookup by
string..
02:35 < raylu> oh.
02:35 < uriel> raylu: I think you probably should fill an issue asking the
TODO to be implemented
02:35 < raylu> thanks.  heh
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02:41 < raylu> ok.  submitted the issue
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03:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glvc5 by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- go
spec: note re: append() not being implemented yet
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04:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glxDC by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/big/ -- big:
arm assembly, faster software mulWW, divWW
04:11 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glxDK by [Russ Cox] in 5 subdirs of go/src/ --
5g, 6g, 8g: generate code for string index
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04:57 < plexdev> http://is.gd/glC0Y by [Russ Cox] in 27 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- use copy
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11:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gmcwE by [Brad Fitzpatrick] in
go/src/pkg/image/png/ -- image/png: speed up paletted encoding ~25%
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12:10 < skelterjohn> good morning, go
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12:43 < bortzmeyer> Searching for a XML-RPC package in Go...
12:43 < Tonnerre> Enterprisey
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12:44 < bortzmeyer> Tonnerre: panic("Word not understood")
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13:28 < ptrb> bortzmeyer: yeah, nobody in the go universe really seems to
care so much about xmlrpc, when we have regular old rpc pkg at least :)
13:30 < bortzmeyer> ptrb: in the outside universe, servers decide on the
protocol to use without consulting the Go gods...
13:30 < exch> shameful to say the least
13:30 < bortzmeyer> ptrb: we often have to use a protocol we did not choose
13:35 < ptrb> bortzmeyer: yes, but you are free in your choice of "servers"
13:35 < ptrb> presumably
13:36 < KBme> we also have jsonrpc
13:36 < KBme> which is still way better than xml
13:39 < ptrb> I mean, I don't want to get too harumph-y, I agree a good
xmlrpc lib would be useful
13:40 < ptrb> but it would almost certainly have to be 3rd-party, would
probably (rightfully) never make it into the core distro and there just isn't a
ton of interest in it in the Go community, for good reasons
13:40 < KBme> why is it more useful than json?  just for compatibility?
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13:51 < ptrb> "more useful" <- i never said these words
13:51 < bortzmeyer> KBme: simply because we typically do not control both of
the end points.  I may control the client (and decide to program it in Go) but not
the server (which decided to use XML-RPC).  And, no, I will not switch my cloud
provider just because of a API protocol preference.
13:51 < ptrb> it is "useful" because xmlrpc is certainly one of (if not
_the_) most prevalent RPC protocol around these days
13:52 < ptrb> that said, XMLRPC is pretty bad; if your "cloud provider"
provides services to you exclusively in XMLRPC I think that is actually a pretty
compelling reason to switch
13:52 < KBme> bortzmeyer: yeap, that's what i was thinking about when i said
compatibility
13:52 < KBme> ok
13:52 < KBme> and bad word usage, right, "more usefull"
13:52 < ptrb> especially if the XMLRPC services are in any way high-traffic
13:53 < bortzmeyer> ptrb: 1) I disagree with you about XML-RPC 2) Switching
providers just because of the protocol?  It seems insane.
13:53 < ptrb> bortzmeyer: there's not much room for disagreement,
unfortunately...  XMLRPC is pretty de-facto standard for "how not to implement
RPC"
13:54 < ptrb> of course we know these lessons primarily as a consequence of
having to use and support XMLRPC, so...  thanks to it for taking one for the team
I guess :)
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16:01 < gmilleramilar> how do I do a blocking read on a websocket.Conn?
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16:11 < KBme>
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/a04c0556f6cde134gmilleramilar:
this could help:
16:11 < KBme> (also, jfgi)
16:13 < KBme> gmilleramilar:^
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16:13 < gmilleramilar> yeah, it was a dumb question.  I figured it out, thx.
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17:33 < tux21b> hi again everyone :)
17:33 < tux21b> seems like I still haven't understand go's meaning of
inheritance yet...
17:34 < tux21b> what would be the easiest (the following source will be
generated) way in go to archive something like this?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/56wr3hNJLx5iQZtBioSJ/
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17:39 < TheSeeker> I thought go didn't have inheritance?
17:39 < exch> It doesnt in the traditional sense
17:40 < Namegduf> tux21b: Implement the two types separately.
17:40 < uriel> tux21b: if you keep trying to apply concepts from other
lnaguages to go, you will end up being confused and frustrated
17:40 < Namegduf> Or add your own Render function to BlogTemplate, which
calls MainTemplate's.
17:40 < exch> You can embed one type in another, to approach something
similar, but it has limitations.  tux21b's problem is better solved suing an
interface and 2 independant implementations
17:41 < Namegduf> Yeah.
17:41 < Namegduf> Don't try to create "abstract" types in Go.
17:41 < Namegduf> Create concrete types and define interfaces when you want
to work on them generically.
17:42 < tux21b> so, i will have to create an interface for each template as
well as an implementation for each, and each implementation should contain the
whole template source copied from the parent-templates?
17:42 < Namegduf> Er, no.
17:43 < Namegduf> Why would you need to create an interface for each
template?
17:43 < tux21b> ok, skip the interface ;)
17:43 < Namegduf> You will need to create an implementation for each.  You
can have an embedded struct for shared functionality that all the types call into,
but said embedded type can't call back.
17:44 < tux21b> so, one implementation for each, without any inheritance or
dependencies, and each template should contain the full source (copied over and
over again)?
17:44 < Namegduf> Sure, if necessary.  But in this case, Render() has no
need to be a member at all.
17:44 < tux21b> i need them to call back, that's an important requirement
17:44 < Namegduf> No you don't.
17:44 < Namegduf> You need to solve your problem.
17:45 < Namegduf> Make Render() not a method, but a function accepting an
interface for one of your templates, and it will work fine without code
duplication, for example.
17:45 < tux21b> ok, that might work
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17:46 < Namegduf> You could also replace Render() with Header() and Footer()
methods
17:46 < Namegduf> Rename RenderBlockBody() to Render()
17:46 < tux21b> but then i will have to generate prefixed functions like
MainTemplate_Render() etc, since there might be more than one
17:46 < Namegduf> And have it call them as necessary.
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17:47 < Namegduf> Give them names that distinguish them from other stuff, as
necessary to distinguish them from other stuff.
17:47 < Namegduf> Conflicts only happen within the package.
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17:48 < tux21b> hmm, but there is still another problem with the idea of
using function like Render(t TemplateInterface).  with that approach, i wouldn't
be able to access the members of t, like t.Title and so on (so i would need to
generate getters and setters for them too)
17:48 < Namegduf> Only getters.
17:49 < tux21b> I want to support a set statement in my template language
too, so i would also need setters ;)
17:49 < Namegduf> Then yes, you'll need to do that.
17:50 < Namegduf> Using getters and setters to access something that's
expressly an abstract implementation of something is not unreasonable.
17:51 < tux21b> yes, but unfortunately i am not a big friend of them (they
are imho a bit overused in other languages like Java), but they might be useful in
my case
17:52 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gmKWL by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- go
spec: clarify return type of append, argument type for ...T parameters
17:53 < Namegduf> They are very overused in other languages, where people
try to secure things against future changes in implementation too much, but with
an interface, the implementation is explicitly abstract, so accessing member
variables would be bad.
17:53 < tux21b> with those getters, it will be possible to generate
controllers which return templates, which can request all they data they need
lazily.  that's imho an advantage
17:53 < uriel> 17:44 < tux21b> so, one implementation for each,
without any inheritance or dependencies, and each template should contain the full
source (copied over and over again)?
17:53 < uriel> tux21b: do you know what libraries and functions are?
17:54 < tux21b> uriel: sure i know, but it's not so easy to archive the same
goal in go by using methods instead of functions
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17:56 < uriel> sorry for being grumppy, just woke up ;)
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17:57 < tux21b> no problem, i am happy with every single tip, to implement
some sort of inheritance and still using go best-practices ;)
17:57 < Namegduf> Don't think in terms of inheritance.
17:57 < Namegduf> You'll run into trouble constantly.
17:58 < Namegduf> Think in terms of implementing the separate types, then
ask "How can I share this duplicated code?" if there's a lot of it.
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17:58 < Namegduf> You could, actually, turn "Render()" into a "Print Title"
function that just takes the title.
17:59 < Namegduf> As well as something for the footer.
17:59 < Namegduf> Again, changing RenderBlockBody() into Render() and having
it call them.
17:59 < tux21b> the thing is, i would like to implement a template engine
similar to Django/Jinja (lexer and parser is already finished), and they support
inheritance which is imho useful in a template language
18:00 < Namegduf> That's fine, but don't think of it when writing the Go
code.
18:00 < Namegduf> Unless you're planning to compile your template language
TO Go, it shouldn't matter.
18:00 < tux21b> but i do, because i am actually writing an AST to go-code
translator ;)
18:01 < tux21b> (btw, Jinja2 if you know it is implemented similar using
Python)
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18:24 < tux21b> hurray, it's working now :)
18:25 < tux21b> Namegduf: you have helped me quite a lot, so would you mind
reviewing the source before I update my generator to generate something like this
automatically?  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/3qLO4LQfrYYgu9zUdBhW/
18:26 < tux21b> (instead of fmt.Print(), the generator writes
io.WriteString(out, ...) and out is a parameter of Render())
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20:10 < WilliamH> I'm trying to write an ebuild for go on gentoo.  How can I
pass CFLAGS to the go build system?
20:12 < skelterjohn> in what context?
20:12 < KBme> WilliamH: hey
20:12 < skelterjohn> to get at them from within go code?  or to have them as
part of the environment when you run 6g
20:12 < KBme> you were the one who answered on b.g.o?
20:12 < KBme> skelterjohn: for building the go source tree
20:13 < KBme> CFLAGS and LDFLAGS
20:13 < skelterjohn> if you invoke the go build script from within a
terminal that has CFLAGS, etc defined, it should be able to see it
20:13 < KBme> it seems to change it tho
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20:14 < skelterjohn> maybe all.bash or whatever you're using redefines it?
i haven't look into this kind of thing, personally, so i don't know beyond what
i've said
20:14 < WilliamH> all.bash is the recommended way to build go, so that's
what I'm using.
20:15 < KBme> WilliamH: ah, you are, cool!
20:16 < TheSeeker> all.bash 'just worked' here too, after setting up the GO*
environment variables on kubuntu (I am not a linux user)
20:16 < KBme> TheSeeker: this is packaging, not installation
20:16 < WilliamH> TheSeeker: Can you do something like:
CFLAGS="some-cc-flag" all.bash
20:16 < skelterjohn> if you are invoking all.bash from a bash script, make
sure to export your vars?
20:16 < skelterjohn> export CFLAGS=whatever
20:17 < skelterjohn> if you don't export i don't think it carries over
20:17 < KBme> ah, maybe that's it..export CFLAGS=$CFLAGS
20:17 < WilliamH> Doesn't passing them on the command line for the script
have the same affect?
20:18 < KBme> not sure, but i don't think so
20:18 < skelterjohn> didn't know you could pass them on the command line
20:19 < KBme> skelterjohn: VAR1=foo mycmd
20:19 < skelterjohn> that's certainly not generally true of bash scripts,
but it's possible that all.bash does it
20:19 < skelterjohn> oh yeah?
20:19 < skelterjohn> neat
20:19 < skelterjohn> thought you meant, eg, ./all.bash VAR1=foo
20:19 < KBme> no, it's in bash
20:20 < KBme> but i'm not sure if it does the same as export
20:20 < skelterjohn> either one would have them active in all.bash's
environment, but only export would carry over to future commands
20:20 < KBme> yep, that's the idea
20:24 < KBme> .well, i'm off, good night
20:24 < KBme> WilliamH: good luck ;)
20:25 < WilliamH> KBme: Thanks.
20:25 < WilliamH> KBme: The next project is to figure out how to do an fhs
install.  ;-)
20:25 < skelterjohn> what's fhs?
20:25 < KBme> haha, well, keep me updated, i'd be interested
20:26 < KBme> skelterjohn: binaries in /bin or /usr/bin, liobraries to /lib
or /usr/lib, etc..
20:26 < KBme> filesystem hierarchy standard
20:26 < skelterjohn> GOBIN=/usr/bin ?
20:27 < KBme> something like that
20:28 < WilliamH> It looks like exporting CFLAGS/LDFLAGS is not working.
20:28 < KBme> WilliamH: yeah it's set in one of the scripts
20:28 < KBme> and the defaults aren't kept
20:28 < KBme> also, i've heard that there are issues when changing the
CFLAGS for some reason
20:29 < KBme> but that was a while ago, something like a year ago
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22:40 < gmilleramilar> hmm there's no way to generate slightly invalid JSON
without doing it all by hand, huh.
22:41 < exch> Why would you want to generate invalid JSON?
22:41 < gmilleramilar> somebody (google) wants me to generate JSON with a
date literal (new Date(blah))
22:41 < gmilleramilar> that doesn't conform to the spec.
22:41 < gmilleramilar>
http://code.google.com/apis/visualization/documentation/dev/implementing_data_source.html#examples
(see example #2)
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22:45 < gmilleramilar> so I either need to write it by hand or hack the json
code, right?
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22:47 < exch> yup
22:47 < exch> Or convince the other end to use proper json
22:51 < gmilleramilar> hmm.  I think I'm going to go with post-process the
output of json.Marshal
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22:57 < uriel> gmilleramilar: that is quite sad, that google had to break an
standard as simple and clean as json :(
22:57 < gmilleramilar> then again, you might argue that json should support
built-in javascript types.
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23:16 < uriel> you might, but it would be a bad argument, as it would make
json much more complex
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23:55 <@nf> gmilleramilar: that is really horrifying
23:55 <@nf> gmilleramilar: !
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