--- Log opened Fri Oct 29 00:00:04 2010 --- Day changed Fri Oct 29 2010 00:00 -!- dj2 [~dj2@2002:63ec:1a4e:0:21f:5bff:fe35:feb5] has joined #go-nuts 00:03 -!- dacc [~Adium@D-128-95-10-211.dhcp4.washington.edu] has left #go-nuts [] 00:05 -!- mode/#go-nuts [-o adg] by adg 00:07 -!- Tv [~tv@gige.bur.digisynd.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:13 -!- fhs [~fhs@pool-74-101-63-115.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:17 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.161.16] has joined #go-nuts 00:18 -!- kkress [~kkress@c-65-49-35-49.tilenetworks.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:24 -!- devrim [~Adium@cpe-72-225-239-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gptTT by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/go/doc/ -- go/doc: use append 00:33 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.137.73.176] has joined #go-nuts 00:41 -!- tvw [~tv@e176004229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:42 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-10-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:01 -!- binarypie [~binarypie@adsl-99-33-26-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13 < nsf> omg, reflection tables 740kb 01:13 < nsf> why are they so huge? 01:13 < nsf> 740 it's a _LOT_ of data 01:16 -!- sjd [~sjd@204-195-89-40.wavecable.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:18 -!- sjd [~sjd@204-195-89-40.wavecable.com] has left #go-nuts [] 01:20 -!- sjd [~sjd@204-195-89-40.wavecable.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:21 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:22 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.161.16] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:29 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:37 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:38 < skelterjohn> hooray, data! 01:39 < |Craig|> I generated a gegapixel png file with go today. Thats lots of data. 01:45 -!- devrim [~Adium@cpe-72-225-239-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:54 < skelterjohn> nsf's silly reflection tables aren't so big now, *are* they? 02:07 -!- Altercation [~Altercati@pdpc/supporter/active/altercation] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:07 -!- boscop_ [~boscop@f055099161.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 02:09 -!- Altercation [~Altercati@pdpc/supporter/active/altercation] has joined #go-nuts 02:09 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055099161.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:26 -!- bobc [~bobc@cpe-98-155-23-24.san.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 02:34 -!- sjd [~sjd@204-195-89-40.wavecable.com] has left #go-nuts [] 02:42 -!- res99 [~anonymous@201.237.130.70] has joined #go-nuts 02:42 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:51 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-124-135-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 02:52 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-124-135-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:53 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 03:03 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #go-nuts 03:13 -!- zaero [~eclark@valkyrie.buick455.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:14 -!- zaero [~eclark@valkyrie.buick455.com] has joined #go-nuts 03:36 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:24 -!- bobc [~bobc@cpe-98-155-23-24.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:32 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gqbsk by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/tabwriter/ -- tabwriter: use append 04:32 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gqbsC by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/ebnf/ -- ebnf: use append 04:42 -!- dj2 [~dj2@2002:63ec:1a4e:0:21f:5bff:fe35:feb5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:46 -!- binarypie [~binarypie@c-24-130-113-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:46 -!- fabled [~fabled@mail.fi.jw.org] has joined #go-nuts 04:52 -!- tensorpudding [~user@99.148.202.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:53 -!- piyushmishra [~piyushmis@117.200.224.112] has joined #go-nuts 05:04 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. 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06:30 -!- noktoborus_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has joined #go-nuts 06:36 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 06:37 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.137.73.176] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:40 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 06:43 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Client Quit] 06:45 -!- ucasano [~ucasano@host153-182-static.227-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 06:45 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 06:49 < nsf> I "like" this in go: 06:49 < nsf> const CONST = 4000000000 06:49 < nsf> i := CONST 06:49 < nsf> compilation error 06:49 < nsf> :\ 06:50 < nsf> why type of 'i' cannot be deduced to int64? 06:53 < nsf> also I have a question regarding spec 06:54 < nsf> "if the operands of a binary operation are an untyped integer constant and an untyped floating-point constant, the integer constant is converted to an untyped floating-point constant (relevant for / and %)." 06:54 < TheSeeker> because 4000000000 is within the range of uint32 ? 06:54 < nsf> why it says "relevant for / and %"? 06:55 < nsf> or it's like clarification, that ops of / and % are converted too 06:55 < nsf> ok, got it 06:55 < nsf> probably worth adding "too" at the end 06:56 < nsf> TheSeeker: consts are converted to signed types implicitly 06:56 < nsf> I mean if you're trying to deduce type of the const, it is signed int or float 06:56 < TheSeeker> oh 06:57 < nsf> 4e9 fits in uint32 indeed 06:57 < nsf> but compiler complains differently anyway 06:57 < nsf> "test.go:15: constant 4000000000 overflows int" 06:59 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:59 -!- msmarlboro [~crayolade@122-57-177-206.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:02 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has quit [Quit: |Craig|] 07:09 -!- ExtraSpice [~XtraSpice@88.118.33.48] has joined #go-nuts 07:14 -!- noktoborus_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has quit [Ping 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terminal] 09:11 -!- Fish [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:14 -!- Fish [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has joined #go-nuts 09:14 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-samyytwisqlhpdoy] has joined #go-nuts 09:29 -!- exch [~exch@h78233.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30 -!- exch [~exch@h78233.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #go-nuts 09:30 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-10-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 09:39 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-10-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:40 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-10-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:48 -!- noktoborus_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has joined #go-nuts 09:57 -!- HollyRain [~HollyRain@87.223.104.30] has joined #go-nuts 09:58 < HollyRain> where is the roadmap page? 10:00 -!- boscop [~boscop@g225209182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 10:00 < nsf> http://golang.org/doc/devel/roadmap.html 10:01 -!- boscop_ [~boscop@f055099161.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:05 < nsf> I'm trying to figure out how should I display variable in my documentation generator 10:05 < nsf> Go's grouping for everything is annoying sometimes :) 10:05 < nsf> var ( a, b, c int; d, e, g float; ) 10:05 < nsf> :\ 10:06 < nsf> I guess I'll just group them the same way I do for consts 10:18 -!- HollyRain [~HollyRain@87.223.104.30] has left #go-nuts [] 10:25 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-samyytwisqlhpdoy] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.15/20101026200251]] 10:35 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has joined #go-nuts 10:35 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has quit [Client Quit] 10:35 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has joined #go-nuts 10:46 < Gertm> is there an order in which the roadmap gets implemented? 10:50 < nsf> Gertm: I think there is no such thing 10:51 < nsf> although I can't say for sure, I'm not the go developer 10:56 < Gertm> well I'm probably expecting stuff you can't expect from an open source project :) 10:56 < Gertm> as in: planned releases, in depth prepared backlog etc.. 11:04 -!- tvw [~tv@e176005246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 11:06 < uriel> I think things are going too fast to expect any kind of 'planned releases', releases happen every week or so 11:07 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 11:08 < uriel> actualy "Improved CGO including some mechanism for calling back from C to Go." is done as far as I know 11:08 < uriel> and "Generate DWARF debug info. 11:08 < uriel> Provide gdb support for runtime facilities." 11:08 < uriel> are in progress 11:08 < uriel> "Improved optimization." is an ongoing thing 11:09 < uriel> language changes depend more on somebody comming up with a design that doesn't suck more than anything else 11:14 -!- ucasano [~ucasano@host153-182-static.227-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: ucasano] 11:16 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:33 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:36 -!- tobik [~tobik@p54893006.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:48 < nsf> http://jiss.convex.ru/gowtf 11:48 < nsf> I guess it's a second iteration 11:48 < nsf> new syntax, no tree, 'var' support 11:48 < nsf> no visual improvements yet 11:49 < nsf> also, I will improve sorting logic a bit 11:49 < nsf> it turns out it's very ugly as of now 11:59 < uriel> nsf: could you use a different package as example 12:00 < nsf> uriel: what package do you want to see? :) 12:00 < uriel> any, ast just seems like the most confusing one somebody could pick for something like this :) 12:00 < nsf> generator itself has bugs, so I can't generate docs for all of the packages yet 12:00 < uriel> exp/draw maybe? 12:01 < nsf> and some packages just contain very few entities 12:01 < nsf> and I want to see how fast js is 12:01 < uriel> well, shouldn't it work on multiple packages at once? 12:01 < uriel> rather than a single package anyway? 12:01 < nsf> no 12:02 < nsf> I don't understand people who use multipackage search 12:02 < nsf> it's like you don't know the package you want to use 12:02 < nsf> :\ 12:02 < uriel> it is like I don't want to setup a new search engine for every site i might want to search.. 12:03 < uriel> and if people knew where what they are searching for is, they would not need search! 12:03 < nsf> exactly 12:03 < nsf> it's not the search at all 12:03 < nsf> it's simple filter 12:03 < uriel> the web browser search function works well enough for that pretty much 12:03 < nsf> I was working a lot with go/ast package 12:04 < nsf> and web browser search sucks 12:04 < nsf> :) 12:04 -!- adg [~nf@124-169-130-190.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:04 < nsf> it's pain in the ass if you want to find all "expr" types for example 12:05 < nsf> anyway, I don't expect that people would accept my vision, I'm doing that mostly for myself 12:06 < nsf> http://jiss.convex.ru/gowtf 12:06 < nsf> reload, exp/draw is boring 12:06 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.161.16] has joined #go-nuts 12:07 -!- nf [~nf@124-171-9-193.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 12:07 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+o nf] by ChanServ 12:08 < uriel> nsf: most packages are boring, and that is a good thing 12:08 < nsf> http://github.com/nsf/gollvm/blob/master/core.go 12:09 < nsf> that's what this documentation system is for 12:09 < uriel> nsf: if a package is not boring, it is probably too big and should be split up 12:09 < nsf> it's a pile of crap^W functions and I need to be able to quickly see their reference documentation 12:10 < uriel> nsf: that is pretty horrible 12:11 < nsf> yeah, I hope js will be able to handle that 12:11 < nsf> I'm not sure though :( 12:11 < uriel> btw, something that would be nice is to have types in function arg lists and so on be links to the type definition 12:11 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has joined #go-nuts 12:12 < nsf> maybe, yes 12:12 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has quit [Client Quit] 12:12 < nsf> it shouldn't be hard to implement 12:12 < nsf> but only for local types (no types from external packages) 12:13 < nsf> although it's possible to do that too, but it requires more processing 12:13 -!- devrim [~Adium@cpe-72-225-239-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:13 -!- devrim [~Adium@cpe-72-225-239-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:13 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has joined #go-nuts 12:16 < nsf> actually I'm lying 12:17 < nsf> js will handle that 12:17 < nsf> I've profiled it, the bottleneck is DOM manipulation (90% vs 10% of the time) 12:18 < nsf> so, I can simply reduce the maximum number of displayed entities from infinity to something like 50 or 100 12:19 < nsf> it will provide decent performance for big packages like gollvm 12:22 < uriel> within a single page you could do it without js at all 12:22 < uriel> just add a bunch of anchors and href #foos around 12:23 < uriel> s/could/should 12:26 < nsf> well, links are not a problem :) 12:26 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:26 < nsf> every element in this system can be references using special form 12:26 < nsf> like 't:Scope!' 12:27 < nsf> and it will point to exactly the type Scope 12:27 < nsf> and nothing else 12:29 < nsf> s/references/referenced/ 12:30 * nsf wants to use Go in his browser instead of javascript 12:31 < nsf> ah, I forgot 12:31 < nsf> the bottleneck is written in C++ anyway 12:31 < nsf> won't help 12:31 < nsf> :\ 12:32 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 12:33 -!- nictuku [~nictuku@cetico.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:33 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176103021.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 12:39 < wrtp> nsf: jiss.convex.ru refuses my connection attempts. 12:40 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:42 -!- tvw [~tv@e176005246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the 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have made it through the filter. 13:13 -!- Fish [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14 -!- Fish [~Fish@86.65.182.207] has joined #go-nuts 13:23 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has joined #go-nuts 13:24 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30 < uriel> wrtp: don't confuse gmail with google groups 13:31 < uriel> gmail's filter is pretty good, google groups is a joke 13:31 < wrtp> i don't generally use google groups 13:31 < uriel> (google group's search is also badly broken, although not as badly broken as it used to be) 13:31 < wrtp> i saw the spam messages you were talking about inside gmail. 13:31 < uriel> wrtp: well, it is a bit hard to subscribe to gnolang-nuts without using google groups 13:32 < wrtp> i agree that the search is broken though 13:32 < uriel> gmail pretty much 'witelists' any mailinglists you are subscrived to 13:32 < wrtp> i get the messages into gmail. 13:32 < uriel> those emails should never have made it into the mailinglist 13:32 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.89.213] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:32 < wrtp> i'm not sure. there would be *much* more spam if the spam filters weren't working ok 13:33 < wrtp> i remember running with no filters and getting 200+ spam messages a day 13:33 < wrtp> and that was years ago 13:33 < wrtp> and things haven't got better since, spam-wise 13:33 < uriel> er., no, this doesn't happen with any other public mailing list anywhere, and the same spam message got posted to at least dozens of groups (I got it in a few others not related to go) 13:33 < uriel> again, you are totally confusing two unrelated issues: gmail and google groups 13:34 < wrtp> one or two spam messages will manage to evade the filters. but... one a week? that's really not bad at all. 13:34 < wrtp> i get the occasional spam message in my inbox too. 13:35 < wrtp> probably more than i get through group subscriptions, as it happens 13:35 < wrtp> but hardly many at all in the grand scheme of things. 13:35 < uriel> getting the same spam message five times, from different mailing lists, all hosted in googlegroups is not acceptable, period 13:36 < wrtp> getting the same spam message five times is much better than getting five different messages once. 13:36 < uriel> and again, no other public mailinglist Im subscrived to has the same issues 13:36 < wrtp> i think you're getting worked up about nothing. 13:36 < uriel> ok, I give up, this is ridiculously offtopic, but I fucking hate it when people makes excuses for crap that should not be crap 13:37 < uriel> i'm getting worked up by thousands of people having to waste their time for no reason at all other than that google groups sucks 13:37 < uriel> and actually, this could be solved if the people that admin the gonuts list would enable moderation for first time posters 13:38 < uriel> something that I do for much smaller google groups lists and works fairly well, that way you only waste the time of one person, instead of the time of thousands of people 13:40 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.107.68] has joined #go-nuts 13:40 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 13:40 < wrtp> i see 4 spam messages posted to golang in the past month, of which 2 were not automatically tagged. i see 11 spam messages posted to golang-dev in the last month, of which 2, again, weren't automatically tagged. there must have been loads more rejected earlier. i think that's pretty good. 13:41 < wrtp> who wants to moderate? 13:41 < wrtp> the noise is well down. it's not a problem! 13:42 -!- msmarlboro [~crayolade@122-57-177-206.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 13:46 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has joined #go-nuts 13:50 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-197-196-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:51 < Fish> greylisting could also be a good thing 13:56 -!- dj2 [~dj2@216.16.242.254] has joined #go-nuts 14:01 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@conference/ubuntudevelopersummit/x-ogpumhpksdxbsyzj] has joined #go-nuts 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at present 15:39 < niemeyer> iant: I assume it will, given that it's a different stack 15:39 <+iant> (that is a bug) 15:40 < niemeyer> iant: But just wondered if you see any gotchas 15:40 < niemeyer> iant: Uhh 15:40 < niemeyer> iant: Ok.. that's actually a requirement :-( 15:40 < niemeyer> iant: I want to wrap zookeeper's C library 15:40 <+iant> It's fixable but it has not been fixed 15:41 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-197-196-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41 < niemeyer> iant: I will have to find a way for C to call Go, out of band 15:42 < niemeyer> iant: Is there some kind of loop from the runtime I can hook into? 15:42 < niemeyer> iant: Assuming I get rid of the background thread 15:42 <+iant> not really 15:43 <+iant> there is a scheduler but it doesn't have an event loop or anything like that 15:43 < niemeyer> Hmm.. I guess I could have each watcher on its own goroutine, and call it synchronously or something 15:43 < niemeyer> Not sure if that's feasible 15:44 < niemeyer> I can probably busy loop with the scheduler, and observe a flag from the C side.. but that's a bit sub-optimal 15:45 < niemeyer> iant: Is there any intent in the air to fix that "soonish", or is that a completely open problem atm? 15:46 <+iant> I'm not sure it's really on anybody's plate right now 15:46 <+iant> It's probably not all that hard to fix 15:47 < niemeyer> iant: Cool, let me send a mail to the list to see if we have any takers on it 15:47 < niemeyer> iant: Thanks! 15:53 -!- kkress [~kkress@64.62.173.125] has joined #go-nuts 15:57 < niemeyer> Sent.. biab 15:57 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@conference/ubuntudevelopersummit/x-ogpumhpksdxbsyzj] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:59 -!- mattn_jp [~mattn_jp@112-68-66-51f1.hyg1.eonet.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 16:02 -!- mlip [~mlip@85-127-233-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #go-nuts 16:03 < mlip> hej, any runtime hackers can help me printing a stracktrace from withing the runtime? 16:15 -!- Tv [~tv@gige.bur.digisynd.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:26 -!- TheSeeker [~n@99-153-250-110.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:27 -!- creack [~charme_g@163.5.84.215] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:29 -!- creack [~charme_g@163.5.84.215] has joined #go-nuts 16:32 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@184-106-207-119.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:33 -!- dahankzter [~henrik@92-244-3-192.customers.ownit.se] has joined #go-nuts 16:34 -!- creack [~charme_g@163.5.84.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:36 -!- creack [~charme_g@163.5.84.215] has joined #go-nuts 16:38 -!- dahankzter [~henrik@92-244-3-192.customers.ownit.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:06 -!- _DerHorst_ [~Horst@e177129079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:07 -!- piyushmishra [~piyushmis@117.200.225.78] has joined #go-nuts 17:08 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176103021.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:08 -!- wjlroe [~will@212.169.34.114] has quit [Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/] 17:12 -!- kkress [~kkress@64.62.173.125] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:13 -!- piyushmishra [~piyushmis@117.200.225.78] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:14 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 17:17 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@74.61.90.217] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 17:17 -!- kkress [~kkress@64.62.173.125] has joined #go-nuts 17:20 -!- mlip [~mlip@85-127-233-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:27 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 17:45 -!- mattn_jp [~mattn_jp@112-68-66-51f1.hyg1.eonet.ne.jp] has left #go-nuts [] 17:54 -!- terrex [~terrex@84.122.72.127.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:57 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:01 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:04 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:07 -!- wrtp [~rog@92.16.126.250] has quit [Quit: wrtp] 18:08 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #go-nuts 18:10 -!- ucasano [~ucasano@host153-182-static.227-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: ucasano] 18:10 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:11 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:18 -!- _DerHorst_ [~Horst@e177129079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e177129079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:20 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@184-106-207-119.static.cloud-ips.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:24 -!- artefon [~thiagon@150.164.2.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:26 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-197-196-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:39 -!- mbruce [~mbruce@ip66-104-100-163.z100-104-66.customer.algx.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:39 -!- terrex1 [~terrex@84.122.72.127.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:40 < mbruce> I'm seeing a problem with a regexp like regexp.Compile("[@][0-9ABCDEF][0-9ABCDEF]") 18:40 < mbruce> Er, early linefeed there. 18:41 -!- terrex [~terrex@84.122.72.127.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:42 < mbruce> Anyway, that regex when applied to the string "@@34@30" matches "@30" instead of "@34". 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