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02:57 < soapy_illusions> hey for any acme users out there, (just installed
the plan9 port on ubuntu) the font is pretty harsh, is there a way for maybe
anti-aliased font...
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03:12 < uriel> soapy_illusions: there is a way, fonts can have an alpha
channel, so it is just up to the font you use
03:13 < uriel> but AA fonts generally suck
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03:14 < jbooth11> hey all, total noob question but haven't done C since
college..  any good resources out there for "your first makefile with go" or "your
first makefile ever"?
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03:28 <@nf> ffuuu
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03:28 <@nf> ask a question and leave 3 minutes later?  gosh
03:29 < uriel> kids, don't understand that being async is one of the
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04:04 < nsf> yay, my custom makefile system builds cgo/life example
04:04 < TheSeeker> ooh, ahh.
04:05 < nsf> http://pastie.org/1394077
04:05 < nsf> looks scary
04:05 < nsf> pastie.org fails to highlight my makefile correctly
04:05 < nsf> :D
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04:56 < uriel> nf: given that apparently cgo is in better shape in hg tip
than in the latest release, it might be a good idea to do another release?
04:57 < nsf> +1
04:57 < nsf> it would be really nice
04:59 <@nf> in good time fellas
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05:58 < cbeck> uriel: In what way?
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09:51 < Miesco> Why isn't go dynamic?
09:51 < exch> dynamic in what sense?
09:53 < Miesco> like dynamically compiled
09:53 < Miesco> like perl
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09:54 < exch> interpreted you mean?  Because it isn't :p It's not meant to
be
09:54 < napsy> Miesco: because the current Go implementation is a static
compiler
09:56 < Miesco> Well I know, but i'm just wondering why because I've never
seen another other language thats not interpreted (dynamically)
09:56 < Miesco> except for like C
09:56 < Miesco> Is it for system programming?
09:56 < Miesco> Also is it influenced by js?
09:56 < napsy> Miesco: Miesco there are dozen of statically compiled
programming languages
09:57 < napsy> you're just not aware of them
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10:01 < Namegduf> Interpreting code is slow
10:01 < jeffreyb> I think I found a bug in the time package, can someone
take a look?  http://go.pastebin.com/qAT6Wfxf
10:05 < exch> hmm that looks like it should work
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10:08 < jeffreyb> I think because the format it's parsing doesn't contain a
day of the week the parser sets it to 0 and doesn't derive it from the actual
date.
10:09 < exch> I haven't been through the source for that, but it sounds
possible
10:09 < exch> Time for an issue report I suppose
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10:10 < jeffreyb> Okay I'll do that now, thanks for the second opinion
10:10 < exch> neither t1 or t2 contain a DayofWeek though
10:11 < exch> they should then both be displayed as day 0 (is that sunday?)
10:11 < exch> either way, something is wrong
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10:22 < jeffreyb> I just pulled the latest non-release version from the repo
and it looks like the bug has already been fixed
10:23 < exch> goodie :)
10:24 < jeffreyb> Oh wait, no sorry, I'd modified the source before pulling
and forgot.
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12:38 < wrtp> anyone know what skeletor code is?
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13:13 < temoto> wrtp, maybe skeleton or selector?
13:14 < wrtp> temoto: the post on go-nuts seemed very clear that it was a
"skeletor"
13:14 < wrtp> as in "commonSkel"
13:14 < wrtp> and with rpc type stuff implied
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13:21 < wrtp> i wondered if it was some kind of common idiom that i wasn't
aware of
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19:07 < aiju> wow, why's Go's runtime so huge?
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19:07 <+iant> huge in what sense?
19:08 < aiju> size..
19:08 < aiju> hello world is 1.3 MB compiled
19:08 <+iant> it's because 6g always links statically
19:09 < aiju> sure, but still why is it THAT large?
19:09 <+iant> type reflection info, mainly
19:10 <+iant> also debug info
19:11 < taruti> strip -s can help
19:11 < aiju> hmm
19:11 < aiju> BFD: stlSWVjB: section .rodata vma 0x807e000 overlaps previous
sections
19:11 < aiju> [...]
19:11 < taruti> iant: fyi, I am hacking gccgo for L4Re (a microkernel
system)
19:13 <+iant> cool
19:14 < aiju> seems like a great thing to publish papers about...
19:15 <+iant> taruti: what processor?
19:15 < Namegduf> aiju: That's not just the go runtime, too.
19:15 < taruti> iant: 386 at the moment, but there is nothing
processor-specific in the port.  L4 is 386/amd64/arm/...
19:16 < Namegduf> It's also fmt
19:16 < Namegduf> And everything fmt imports and uses
19:16 < taruti> atm hello world works, but still needs much work
19:16 < Namegduf> Actual Go programs are not ridiculously huge
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19:33 < scala1024> hi
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19:43 < MaybeSo> aiju: http://tinyurl.com/2aawnm4
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20:03 < aiju> wow
20:04 < aiju> *don't* call json.Encoder.Encode with big data
20:04 < aiju> where 64K qualifies for "big"
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20:06 < scala1024> @aiju cuz?  what will happen?
20:08 < aiju> scala1024: it eats your RAM
20:13 < Tv> 64k shouldn't be *that* bad
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20:13 < scala1024> @aiju linear?  exponential?  at what factor?
20:14 < aiju> scala1024: dunno, i had a hard time killing the process
20:14 < scala1024> ic
20:15 < aiju> oh wait
20:15 < aiju> it was the pointer to an SDL Surface
20:15 < Tv> i don't see anything horrible in the implementation
20:15 < aiju> without it works now
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20:16 < Tv> aiju: if that's a struct, it'll jsonify the whole thing,
following pointers etc
20:16 < aiju> oic
20:16 < Tv> that might be much more than you intended..
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21:26 < nsf1> my go makefile templates stuff: https://github.com/nsf/goal
21:26 < nsf1> still in a bad shape, but that's how I see it
21:27 < nsf1> brb
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21:27 < nsf1> :\
21:27 < inv_arp> hmm ..  unable to make on a work machine
21:27 < inv_arp> ap202:~/go/src> ./make.bash
21:27 < inv_arp> Make.inc:33: Extraneous text after `else' directive
21:27 < inv_arp> make version 3.80
21:28 < inv_arp> ah works fine on 3.81 and up it looks like
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22:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/jb3dJ by [Stefan Nilsson] in go/src/pkg/bufio/
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