--- Log opened Sat Jan 01 00:00:01 2011
00:16 < vsmatck> What is an object?  I thought object = instance of a type?
00:23 < vsmatck> I read wikipedia page.  Looks like a object has to have
member functions and state.  So I guess primitive types don't qualify?
00:23 < fuzzybyte> I try to avoid the whole word.  word object is often used
so widely that it could mean pretty much anything.  why not just talk about
"instances"?
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00:23 < vsmatck> oh, ya I think I will stick to the word "instance" as you
suggest.
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00:32 < zozoR> i spend new years eve, drunk, writing go
00:32 < zozoR> i woder if it works in the morning
00:32 < zozoR> :D
00:33 < Namegduf> Thanks to Go's static typing, the odds are your drunk code
will do SOMETHING the next day, even if it's not well-defined or useful to anyone.
00:33 < Namegduf> Yay Go!
00:35 < tylergillies> lol
00:35 < tylergillies> Namegduf: i found a hander that lets me send "type
instances" ;)
00:35 < tylergillies> handler*
00:36 < Namegduf> You mean lets you pass arbitrary parameters?
00:36 < tylergillies> yes
00:36 < Namegduf> That's useful.
00:36 < vsmatck> Like ...interface{} ?
00:37 < tylergillies> indeed, i sent it a struct containing a channel
because i couldn't figure out how to make it work with sending it a channel
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01:18 < tylergillies> how do i convert []string to string?
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01:22 < TheSeeker> umm ...  you have an array of strings you want to turn
into a single concatenated string?  or you want to pull a single element out of
the array and use it?
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03:58 < exch> tylergillies: strings.Join()
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08:31 < taruti> Has anyone got a exp/draw/x11 example?
08:51 < tylergillies> exch: thnx
08:51 < tylergillies> happy new year all
08:52 < tylergillies> whats the best way to get a type for a variable to
print?  pseudo-code: fmt.Println(type(variable))
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09:15 < anticw> tylergillies: Printf("%T" ...)
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09:49 < adu> hny
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10:36 < fuzzybyte> why is it not possible to chain variable declerations ala
C, eg.  a = b = 5 ?
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10:39 < fuzzybyte> uh, meant assignment, but declaration doesn't work either
(eg.  a := b := 5)
10:39 < aiju> doesn't a,b := 5 work?
10:39 < nsf> because 'a = 5' is not an expression in Go's grammar
10:39 < nsf> it's a statement
10:40 < nsf> and statement cannot be used like that
10:40 < fuzzybyte> aiju: noope
10:40 < nsf> and why they did it as a statement
10:40 < nsf> I have no idea
10:41 < fuzzybyte> :|
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10:41 < nsf> 'i++' is a statement, maybe for the same reasons
10:41 < nsf> grammar simplification, less unobvious things, no ordering
problems, etc
10:42 < fuzzybyte> well nothing wrong with that
10:48 < aiju> nsf: but no fun :(
10:48 < nsf> aiju: want fun - use ruby
10:48 < aiju> you misspelled "pain"
10:48 < nsf> :\
10:49 < nsf> and I think Go is fun
10:49 < aiju> i++[a] = i ? --i : *j++;
10:49 < aiju> no, without such statements it can't be fun
10:49 < nsf> _that_'s no fun
10:50 < aiju> n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
10:50 < aiju> ^-- i've seen that in troff code
10:53 < |Craig|> I like this line of C code I wrote in my first real c
project: *(pIn+*ptrans++)+=*pIn2++
10:53 < aiju> haha
10:54 < aiju> /* You are not expected to understand this */
10:54 < |Craig|> I though I was being smart with pointers.  I moved
everything to arrays and it ran faster.  GCC is smarter than me
10:54 < aiju> haha GCC
10:55 < aiju> gcc once produced floating point instructions for my
interger-only code
10:55 < aiju> o.O
10:55 < |Craig|> did it run really fast?
10:55 < aiju> no
10:55 < aiju> it ran really slow
10:55 < |Craig|> ha
10:55 < aiju> -O replaced all those instructions with a single CMP
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13:12 < creack> Hello
13:13 < creack> happy new year
13:13 < creack> Is there any way to know from which pid a signal has been
sent with os/signal?
13:14 < aiju> creack: i don't whether *nix supports this at all
13:15 < aiju> oh, sry, it does
13:16 < aiju> using sigaction
13:24 < creack> indeed
13:24 < creack> and I saw in the sources of os/signal that it do use
sigaction
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16:10 < tylergillies> hrm string(someInt) is unexpected
16:11 < tylergillies> anticw: thnx for variable print
16:13 < tylergillies> oh strconv package might do
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16:30 < tylergillies> is there any type of heredoc in go?
16:32 < nsf> you mean something like raw strings?  there are raw strings in
syntax: `abc` (specified with backtick character)
16:34 < tylergillies> anything that uses EOF type of delimiter?
16:43 < nsf> nope
16:43 < nsf> nothing like that
16:44 < nsf> also you can just put your data (textual or binary) as []byte
using my util: bin2go - https://github.com/nsf/bin2go
16:45 < nsf> Go uses utf-8 for internal string representation
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17:06 < hokapoka> I'm using log.Print{f|ln} to write to a log file, is there
a way I can write to different log files standard & error?
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17:11 < hokapoka> The only way I can see is to create a seperate logger via
log.New() and then expose that to the other packages.
17:12 < hokapoka> ATM if I have a log.Println() within a dependant package
"a" of main it writes to the log Output that I've defined in main.
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18:35 < tylergillies> how do i export struct fields?  json: cannot unmarshal
object key "img" into unexported field img of type struct { img int; desc int }
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18:38 < tylergillies> im doing it like the test does, but the test passes...
odd
18:39 < exch> tylergillies: struct fields need to be public when you want
them unmarshalled from json
18:39 < exch> Just upper-case the first letter
18:39 < exch> It doesnt matter how it appears in the json btw
18:39 < tylergillies> oh that "exports" them?
18:39 < exch> yes
18:39 < tylergillies> gotcha, ok thnx thats what i was worried about
18:39 < exch> In Go, anything that starts with a capital letter is public
18:39 < tylergillies> ooooh
18:39 < tylergillies> ok good to know
18:39 < tylergillies> makes some stuff make more sense now
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21:29 < uriel> tylergillies: reading the introductory docs is usually a good
idea
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21:33 < angasule> I just set a key in vim to run gofmt on the current buffer
and keep the position within the file (it overwrites mark o), :nmap <F10>
mo:%!gofmt<CR>g`o
21:35 < uriel> angasule: neat
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21:47 < crazy2be> what did http.URL.UserInfo used to do?
21:48 < crazy2be> i found an old package that uses it
21:48 < crazy2be> and i'm not sure what to replace it with
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22:22 < crazy2be> RawUserInfo seems to work
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