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00:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/jhPYqP by [Anschel Schaffer-Cohen] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/rand/ -- Use defer to unlock mutex in crypto/rand.
00:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/RBopfH by [Ian Lance Taylor] in go/test/ --
test: s/float/float64/
00:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/Y99cLY by [Luuk van Dijk] in go/src/cmd/cc/ --
cc: remove pickle generation code.
00:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/LAWVMA by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ --
gob: better debugging, commentary
00:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/Tgq2DI by [Russ Cox] in go/test/chan/ --
test/chan/doubleselect: fix various races
00:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ai3fgJ by [Russ Cox] in 4 subdirs of go/ --
spec, runtime, tests: send on closed channel panics
00:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ZzlawY by [Ian Lance Taylor] in
go/src/pkg/net/ -- net: Fix race condition in test.
00:01 < plexdev> http://is.gd/M9EqOU by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
gc: clearer error for struct == struct
00:17 < plexdev> http://is.gd/fBzGZx by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ --
gob: fix the grammar comments to match the encoder
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03:41 < mosva> "We considered writing 6g, the original Go compiler, in Go
itself but elected not to do so because of the difficulties of bootstrapping and
especially of open source distribution"
03:41 < mosva> What are the open source distribution difficulties?
03:43 < Archwyrm> Packaging issues maybe?
03:45 < mosva> Where can I read more about go runtime and garbage collector?
03:49 < Sgeo> How would one go about distributing only the source in such a
manner that it's useful?
03:50 < Archwyrm> Sgeo: If you have a compiler, I'd say that it is useful.
03:51 < Sgeo> But for someone who wants to compile from scratch..
03:51 < Archwyrm> You mean the compiler?
03:52 < Sgeo> Compiling the compiler requires the binary of the compiler.  I
have to wonder how a distro like Gentoo would deal with that
03:53 < Archwyrm> I'm pretty sure a base Gentoo install comes with the
compiler, which later on you use to compile a new compiler.
03:53 < Archwyrm> So, the bootstrapping and distribution are pretty well
tied together.
03:59 < Namegduf> It comes with a C compiler.
03:59 < Namegduf> You wouldn't get them to distribute a Go compiler as part
of the base install too easily.
03:59 < Namegduf> Gentoo does, however, support binaries for special cases,
and I suspect this would be one of them.
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04:33 < araujo> Sgeo, we deal in many ways: 1) bootstrapping using other
binary , 2) if it possible, sometimes some gcc hacks can help you get compilation
done for some interpreters
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05:51 < mosva> Will go support method overloading in the future?
05:52 < mosva> Also, does go run on bare hardware?  if so, does it support
go routines?
05:56 < taruti> 1) probably no, 2) yes, 3) don't remember
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06:03 < beginer> heeeheheeee
06:07 < mosva> https://gist.github.com/790914
06:09 < |Craig|> mosva: use a ! instead of a Ternary
06:09 < mosva> |Craig|, how does that work?
06:10 < |Craig|> "err != nil || !info.IsRegular() ? false : true" is the
same as !(err != nil || !info.IsRegular()) right?
06:11 < |Craig|> or (err==nil && info.IsRegular())
06:12 < mosva> Is the brackets necessary?
06:12 < taruti> yes
06:12 < mosva> would this work?  https://gist.github.com/790914
06:13 < |Craig|> mosva: apply de morgans law correctly, when brining in the
not, swap ors and ands, but something like that should work
06:14 < mosva> Thanks
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07:13 < mosva>
http://code.google.com/p/go/source/browse/src/pkg/go/parser/parser.go
07:13 < mosva> In the 39th line no name is given for the member of the
struct
07:13 < mosva> so what will be the default name?
07:18 < crazy2be> any way to test equality with []byte?
07:19 < crazy2be> hmm maybe bytes.Compate
07:20 < Tonnerre> bytes.Compate - makes all bytes suffer equally
07:22 < crazy2be> suffer?
07:23 < taruti> bytes.Equal
07:23 < crazy2be> just out of curiosity, any reason != doesn't work?
07:23 < crazy2be> is that a design decision?
07:24 < Tonnerre> Logic I would say
07:24 < Tonnerre> If it did, how would you figure out you're talking about
the same object, not a copy?
07:24 < |Craig|> The lannguage could force you to use != on pointers for
that
07:25 < |Craig|> but I like it how it is
07:25 < |Craig|> &a!=&b
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11:53 < Guest75240> huh
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11:57 < Tonnerre> Yes, totally
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11:57 < Guest75240> # Appears as ANNA
11:58 < Guest75240> (#G010E114RM1) hurr
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12:15 < aiju> i suppose there is no way to get a variable page aligned with
6c
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13:30 * aiju is filing compiler bug after compiler bug …
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13:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/VJgwpK by [Alex Brainman] in 5 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- runtime: implementation of callback functions for windows
13:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/VKbCeb by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ --
gob: report an error when encoding a non-empty struct with
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15:25 < erus`> http://i.imgur.com/SgywS.png
15:29 < KBme> heh
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15:49 < KBme> was there a change to casting?  i get undefined: float
15:49 < KBme> for something like flmoat(intvar)
15:49 < taruti> float was removed
15:49 < taruti> use float32/64
15:49 < aiju> float is TEH EVIL
15:50 * aiju found an embarassing compiler bug
15:50 < taruti> tell us :)
15:51 < KBme> ahh :)
15:51 < KBme> thanks
15:51 < aiju> http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=1439
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15:54 < taruti> :D
15:54 < aiju> esp.  see the comment
15:54 < KBme> hum, and now the linker segfaults..
15:57 < KBme> ah, I tracked it down to go9p i think..damn.
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17:08 < quantumelixir> aiju: Aren't you supposed to specify only expressions
that evaluate to a boolean within the conditional?
17:08 < quantumelixir> (regarding the compiler bug)
17:08 < quantumelixir> especially, given that there is no implicit
conversion being performed
17:08 < erus`> i thought so...
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17:09 < quantumelixir> I think, you should explicitly specify, x != 0
17:09 < erus`> shouldnt compiler throw a compilation error
17:09 < quantumelixir> yeah that too
17:09 < quantumelixir> hehe..  so either way it *is* a bug :)
17:10 < aiju> quantumelixir: it's the C compiler
17:10 < aiju> not the Go compiler
17:11 < quantumelixir> oh oops :)
17:11 < quantumelixir> can't believe I missed that
17:12 < aiju> while(l--) isn't even near valid Go
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17:13 < aiju> RAX=f000ff53f000ff53
17:13 < aiju> that value will haunt my dreams
17:13 < aiju> it's what stored at location 0
17:17 < rm445> Out of interest, what can you do with 6c?  It doesn't come
with a standard library, right?
17:20 < aiju> rm445: you can compile programs
17:21 < aiju> but you can't link them lol
17:21 < aiju> with some effort you can use Go functions and the like
17:21 < aiju> rm445: see the program in my bug report
17:22 < aiju> 6c is required for the lowlevel parts (memory allocation,
garbage collection, goroutine management)
17:22 < aiju> most of the runtime is written in C
17:22 < aiju> and it wouldn't be possible to rewrite them in Go as it is
currently
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17:27 < rm445> I knew that 6c was involved in using go (and used with cgo?)
but wasn't sure if us end-users could use it.
17:27 < rm445> s/using go/building go/
17:27 < KBme> it's the compiler for amd64
17:27 < KBme> oh
17:28 < KBme> no, the c compiler for amd64
17:28 < KBme> but i think it's specialised to go
17:28 < KBme> it's based off kencc though, if you're interested in that sort
of thing
17:31 < aiju> KBme: the compiler hasn't changed largely afaik, unlike the
linker
17:32 < KBme> ok, good to know
17:33 < aiju> the error doesn't appear with Plan 9 8c
17:33 < aiju> oh lol but with Go 8c
17:34 < aiju> so ok, they fucked it up somewhat
17:34 < rm445> so yeah, you can compile and link a one-file C program but
not more than one file?
17:34 < aiju> rm445: oh yeah could be
17:34 < aiju> you would have to pack those other files up in a pseudopackage
17:34 < aiju> it's possible, but it would be ugly
17:34 < aiju> long story short, ?c is not intended for end-user use
17:35 < aiju> even tho it certainly is possible
17:35 < aiju> oh wow
17:35 < aiju> the problem does appear with original kencc
17:36 < aiju> oh no, it doesn't
17:36 < aiju> i just misread the highly convoluted code
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19:13 < dario_> hi *
19:14 < dario_> is there already an official ftp implementation ?
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19:18 < aiju> ftp (n.): Fuck That Protocl
19:18 < aiju> +o
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20:19 < henning_> don't know if anybody here is connected to the official go
web pages, golang.org, but the 2011-01-12 release of go seems to be breaking the
wiki codelab app (http://golang.org/doc/codelab/wiki/), due to template not being
able to access an unexported field
20:21 < uriel> henning_: I think adg probably is the person to take care of
that
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