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01:05 < str1ngs> does goinstall work for cgo projects?
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02:02 < nixness> compiling go again seems to choke on pkg/net for some
reason
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02:14 < nixness> okay hg pulled and updated, then building fails
02:14 < nixness> http://fpaste.org/Vo0B/
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02:27 <@adg> str1ngs: it will, soon.  it might, now
02:27 <@adg> str1ngs: i'm not sure of the exact status
02:28 <@adg> ewanas: that's a fairly benign error.  you can safely ignore it
02:29 < ewanas> yeah running all.bash again worked :)
02:29 < ewanas> so the other one was a case of false negatives
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02:50 < str1ngs> adg: https://github.com/thiagoncc/curses.go seems to work.
but goinstall panics with mine.  I'll figure out why.  probably an issue with my
package
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02:57 <@adg> str1ngs: goinstall support for cgo is very new, your help in
tracking down any issues is most appreciated!  :)
02:57 < str1ngs> adg: ah ok.  I shall report back then !
02:58 < str1ngs> branch support with goinstall be nice to
02:58 <@adg> trouble is that goinstall supports a number of vcses
02:59 <@adg> and they all do branching differently
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03:11 < str1ngs> tags as HEAD is good enough for now
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03:15 < str1ngs> grr -dashboard=true for testing :(
03:16 < str1ngs> err false
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05:14 < exch> Factor is proving to be remarkably suited as a scripting
language for Go. With some syntax tweaks it's almost Go <3
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05:40 < str1ngs> exch: I'm working on some go bindings to libalpm thought
you might find it instresting
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05:56 < exch> str1ngs: cool
05:57 < str1ngs> exch: mainly just read functions right now.  so I can
search for packages etc
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09:47 < nsf> http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/msg/078746ca4b20369b
09:47 < nsf> facepalm.jpg
09:48 < nsf> "a function is a method without a receiver"
09:49 < nsf> that _is_ scary
09:49 < hokapoka> heh
09:50 < nsf> (another note regarding "OO eats brains")
09:51 < hokapoka> Reading the whole post, well the very first messages,
brings me back to a penny dropping in my own brain the other month.
09:52 < hokapoka> I wasn't creating mangy seperate packages, and was opting
to put the bulk of the logic into methods because function naming was becomaing a
mare.
09:52 < hokapoka> Infact I've moved to using your package build nsf.
09:52 < nsf> hokapoka: uhm?
09:52 < nsf> https://github.com/nsf/goal <- this one?
09:53 < hokapoka> goal, that's it
09:53 < nsf> I hope it works, I haven't checked it for a while
09:53 < nsf> I'm not writing much of the go code lately
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09:54 < hokapoka> This simple move to creating more packages and hence
encapsulating modules made using functions more realistic, at least for me.
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09:55 < nsf> well, I'm a C guy..  modules?  huh..
09:55 < hokapoka> nsf, erm, I've not actually pulled goal in a while deffo
works tho.
09:56 < nsf> hokapoka: the last commit was in the 2010
09:56 < nsf> so..  no need to pull things
09:56 < nsf> :)
09:56 < hokapoka> heh
09:56 < nsf> well, building Go is a simple task
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09:56 < nsf> I'm afraid cgo is broken there
09:56 < nsf> or not, I don't know
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10:08 < jumzi> you don't need modules to make functions realistic
10:08 < jumzi> And on that note
10:09 < nsf> the problem with that it doesn't have file local function like
'static' in C
10:09 < nsf> you have to use modules for that
10:09 < nsf> with Go*
10:09 < nsf> functions*
10:10 < nsf> and standard makefiles make it painful to use modules
10:11 < nsf> because they don't track dependencies correctly in that case
10:12 < nsf> not a big problem considering the speed of compilation though
10:12 < hokapoka> Modules maybe wasn't the right word.
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10:13 < nsf> I think Go needs file local functions
10:13 < nsf> but that's just my humble opinion
10:13 < nsf> or file scope functions, you name it
10:14 < hokapoka> Nar that's not an issue for me.
10:14 < jumzi> Well you have packages
10:14 < hokapoka> exactally
10:14 < nsf> but each package has a name and it's supposed to have a meaning
of a module
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10:15 < jumzi> Is it often you want to name a function the same thing in a
program?
10:15 < jumzi> Altough they do diffrent things?
10:15 < nsf> from time to time :)
10:15 * taruti hasn't had issues with needing file-local functions
10:16 < taruti> the lack of partial application is kind of annoying
10:16 < nsf> on the other hand I don't have an example in mind..  therefore
maybe I'm wrong
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10:18 < hokapoka> I think my initial view of packages were in correct.
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10:19 < Namegduf> nsf: How large are you thinking of your modules as being?
10:19 < nsf> I take llvm as an example
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10:20 < nsf> well my point was that having kind of a module inside a module
is nice too
10:20 < nsf> for example in C modular app sometimes is not an app that uses
multiple libraries or something
10:20 < nsf> but just nicely structured collection of source files
10:21 < nsf> in Go it's like no matter how much files do you have
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10:21 < nsf> they act like a single file
10:21 < nsf> it confuses me a bit
10:22 < nsf> what's the point in having multiple files in a package then?
10:22 < nsf> everything is visible from everywhere anyway
10:22 < nsf> in a package scope of course
10:23 < Namegduf> I think a module inside a module setup would be properly
modeled using smaller packages.
10:23 < nsf> of course, yes
10:23 < hokapoka> well, take the http package, it has client.go header.go
etc.  yeah it could be in one file but it's just preference isn't it?
10:24 < Namegduf> I mean, separate modules should be in separate namespaces
and separate scope.
10:24 < nsf> hokapoka: exactly
10:25 < nsf> "preference" is a bad argument sometimes
10:25 < Namegduf> So if a module is actually a number of smaller submodules
they ben to be seperate in those ways...  and thus a number of smaller separate
packages.
10:25 < Namegduf> And yeah, I think multiple files is used specifically and
only because 4000 line files are annoying.
10:25 < Namegduf> Or 3000, or whatever your sensible module size is.
10:25 < nsf> Namegduf: I don't think I care about file length somehow
10:25 < rm445> people's opinions on number of functions in a source file
varies depending how they like to work (the limit in some weird places is one
function per file) - you have to provide for multiple source files per package.
10:25 < Namegduf> Then no point for you.
10:25 < nsf> I use jumps in vim anyway to navigate
10:26 < nsf> G gg and '/' search
10:26 < Namegduf> I guess what I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense to
have a file scope and a separate package scope
10:26 < rm445> nsf: big deal.  Different people work different ways and the
language allows that.
10:26 < nsf> Go has file scope
10:26 < Namegduf> Two bits of code are either independent and respect
public/private or they don't
10:26 < nsf> but it only contains imported packages
10:27 < Namegduf> Hmm.
10:27 < nsf> everything else in a file gets promoted to the package scope
10:27 < nsf> import mymodule "x"
10:27 < nsf> 'mymodule' is file local
10:27 < Namegduf> Yeah, although if you actually use that it'd be annoying
10:27 < nsf> anyway, just doesn't feel right
10:27 < nsf> nevermind :)
10:27 < Namegduf> To have a package renamed in one place but not another
within a package.
10:28 < nsf> I'm just ranting a bit
10:28 < nsf> hehe
10:29 < Namegduf> I like to have separate subareas of functionality, if that
makes sense, which all are within the same namespace and encapsulation boundary.
10:29 < Namegduf> So I like multiple files for that.
10:29 < Namegduf> But obviously values accessible only within a certain file
kinda mess that up.
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10:30 < nsf> still, I think Go has lost something that was in C and was nice
10:31 < nsf> about source files
10:31 < nsf> but I'm not saying it's an 'include' system, god no
10:31 * taruti likes the go modules better
10:31 < nsf> something else :)
10:32 < nsf> in C file is a translation unit
10:32 < nsf> in Go file is a part of the package
10:32 < nsf> concepts are a bit different
10:32 < nsf> and something is forgotten in between somewhere :)
10:32 * nsf has this feeling
10:32 < nsf> I don't know
10:34 < Namegduf> I think...  in C you could have things which were in the
same module but could hide SOME internal implementation stuff just for neatness,
not for encapsulation, and in Go you can't.
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10:35 < rm445> the default go makefiles do something a little weird with
packages, IMO.
10:35 < taruti> Namegduf: and hiding things that are shared across a module
is a pain in C
10:35 < rm445> We have make.cmd for 'this program has one main package and
imports from my goroot'
10:36 < rm445> and we have make.pkg for 'build this package and install it
to my goroot'
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10:36 < rm445> but I think there's a middle case, 'this package is not a
standalone library but a conceptual part of a larger program' - that you might
want to build in place.
10:37 < Namegduf> I just use my own makefile for that, but it's non-ideal to
do thhat
10:37 < Namegduf> *that
10:37 < nsf> rm445: https://github.com/nsf/goal
10:37 < nsf> I've addressed that issue partially with these alternative
templates
10:37 < nsf> see examples/cmd_pkgs
10:39 < nsf> although goal also shows how horrible make files could be
10:40 < nsf> :D
10:40 < nsf> combine that with painful debugging and here we go..
10:41 < wrtp> rm445: i think that GOPATH will address that
10:42 < wrtp> i don't miss file-local functions or types BTW.  a package is
one entity - it's easy to keep names separate.
10:43 < wrtp> in C, static is necessary because there's no other scope
10:43 < wrtp> package-local is equivalent to C's static
10:43 < nsf> I guess you're right
10:44 < nsf> it's hard to imagine a thing that allows you to share something
between a.go and b.go, but not c.go in a module
10:44 < nsf> in C it's trivial with headers, but we all know that system has
its own drawbacks
10:44 < wrtp> it wouldn't work in C if the names clashed
10:45 < nsf> anyways, my bad..  Go doesn't need vars/funcs in file scope
10:45 < nsf> :)
10:45 < wrtp> :-)
10:46 < wrtp> i quite like import being file scope though
10:46 < nsf> I guess it's nice, yeah
10:46 < wrtp> that's a good reason for putting things in separate files -
when their dependencies are very different
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10:52 < rm445> wrtp: does GOPATH exist yet or is it an upcoming feature?
10:52 < rm445> and will using it just be a case of writing GOPATH=.  in a
makefile?
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it, but i don't know if they're complete yet
10:53 < wrtp> rm445: i think you'd set it as an environment variable
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code.
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14:30 < ww> deleting code (whilst preservice function) is one of the most
satisfying things
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14:46 < wrtp> ww: ain't it just
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14:47 < aiju> i love it when i have a huge convoluted piece of code
14:47 < aiju> which has a bug
14:47 < aiju> and after i fix it, it's all simple and nice
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14:51 * ww scrolls up s/preservice/preserving/
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15:05 < wrtp> aiju: yeah, and then you add features and it gets all complex
again until the next refactor.  it's like a sawtooth curve.
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15:15 < taruti> is it possible to get cumulative/recursive costs of
functions with 6prof?
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15:21 < taruti> -hs seems to help :)
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16:48 < aiju> goyacc loves my grammar
16:52 < wrtp> better than finding the conflicts after you've painstakingly
crafted the grammar by hand :-)
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18:17 < exch> Does anyone have some good resources on compiler
theory/design?
18:17 < exch> Google has plenty of hits, i'm just trying to narrow it down a
little to the good bits
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18:19 <+iant> any particular aspect of compilers?
18:19 <+iant> the usual standard intro is the dragon book
18:20 < exch> I'm complete nub as far as 'proper' compiler design is
concerned, so I guess the standard intro will be as good a place as any to start
18:21 <+iant> I don't think it's online, alas
18:21 < exch> I can make something work with my scripting language attempts,
but I generally just wing it and mold into something that works for me.  I'm just
curious just how shit my approach is
18:21 <+iant> you can older editions cheap, and they are still good intros
18:21 <+iant>
http://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Principles-Techniques-Alfred-Aho/dp/0201100886
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18:21 < exch> It's ok if it's a book.  I can pick it up sometime
18:22 < exch> cool, thanks
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18:30 < TheMue> iant: Just updating to 2011-02-24 and got an error with
archive/tar.
18:30 < TheMue> iant: lag provided but not defined: -v
18:30 < TheMue> A known error?
18:30 <+iant> I don't think so
18:30 <+iant> error during the build or the test?
18:31 < plexdev> http://is.gd/YppRhC by [Brad Fitzpatrick] in
go/src/pkg/http/ -- http: initialize request Header for the transport
18:31 <+iant> what OS and ARCH?
18:31 < TheMue> As usual I do ./all.bash
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18:32 <+iant> all.bash builds everything and then tests everything
18:32 < TheMue> On OS X, he is doing make -C archive/tar test
18:32 <+iant> OK, a test failure
18:32 <+iant> does it really say "lag provided"?  I wonder what "lag" means?
18:32 <+iant> oh, "flag"
18:33 <+iant> according to http://godashboard.appspot.com/ OS X is building
fine
18:34 < TheMue> eh, "flag provided ..." *sigh*
18:35 < TheMue> hmm, ./all.bash does a make clean before, isn't it?
18:35 <+iant> yes
18:35 < TheMue> strange
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18:36 <+iant> I don't know why it would be passing -v
18:36 <+iant> I don't see that when I run "make test"
18:37 <+iant> I can see the error if I run "gotest -v" in archive/tar
18:37 <+iant> but I don't see where the -v would come from normally
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18:39 < TheMue> It the first test after the message regarding ./sudo.bash
for the debugger
18:40 <+iant> what happens if you cd to src/pkg/archive/tar and run "make
test"?
18:41 < TheMue> Same error
18:41 <+iant> what is the first line of output?
18:42 < jokoon> any advice for how to learn go when I already know C++ ?
(and also ruby, python, php...)
18:42 < TheMue> gotest -v
18:42 <+iant> TheMue: OK, where did that -v come from?
18:42 <+iant> I don't see it when I run "make test"
18:42 <+iant> Look for the "test" target in src/Make.pk
18:42 < TheMue> iant: Never seen it before, so don't know
18:42 <+iant> sorry, src/Make.pkg
18:43 < TheMue> ok
18:43 <+iant> jokoon: http://golang.org/doc/go_for_cpp_programmers.html
18:44 < TheMue> iant: the test target is gotest -v
18:44 <+iant> it shouldn't be....
18:44 <+iant> do you have any local patches in your sources?
18:44 <+iant> what does "hg status" pring?
18:44 <+iant> s/pring/print/
18:45 < jokoon> iant thanks a lot ! is there more ?
18:45 < jokoon> what can I read when I finished that ?
18:45 <+iant> jokoon: nothing more about C++, there is lots more
documentation at golang.org
18:45 <+iant> read the tutorial and Effective Go
18:46 < jokoon> and by the way, what are you guys working on besides go ?
18:46 < aiju> http://aiju.phicode.de/misc/go or read what i'm writing
currently *g*
18:46 <+iant> I'm full time on Go, there are a few full time Go developers
18:48 < jokoon> yeah but are you working at google ?
18:48 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ZQ1tjN by [Russ Cox] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime: record goroutine creation pc and display in
traceback
18:48 < aiju> i think everyone with voice/op in here is working at google
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18:48 <+iant> jokoon: yes, I work at Google
18:48 < jokoon> *impressed*
18:48 <+iant> me and 20,000 other people
18:48 < nsf> :D
18:49 < TheMue> iant: Oh, my Make.pkg is locally modified.  Maybe I once
changed it, but it's a long time ago.  Thx for the hint.
18:49 <+iant> sure
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18:58 < KirkMcDonald> Google?  Never heard of it.
18:58 < wrtp> jokoon: have a read through the language specification.  it's
pretty readable, and you find things there that you won't find in most other
documents.
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18:59 < jokoon> ok
18:59 < TheMue> iant: So,hg update -c done, now the real Make.pkg =>
e'thing work.  Thx a lot
19:00 < KirkMcDonald> jokoon: When I learned Go (coming from C++, Python,
others), I just read the spec start to finish.
19:00 < wrtp> me too.  and puzzled over the tricky bits, thinking over the
implications.
19:01 < KirkMcDonald> This is also the way I learned D, however long ago
that was.
19:01 < aiju> i want that Rob gets the Pullitzer price for the Go specs
19:04 < plexdev> http://is.gd/3VPnQ9 by [Roger Peppe] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ --
fmt: allow recursive calls to Fscan etc.
19:06 < skelterjohn> I've glanced at the spec, but to learn go i looked at
the tutorial
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19:35 < nsf> http://pastie.org/1625764
19:35 * nsf loves ragel
19:35 < nsf> who needs lex anyway
19:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7Jts70 by [Roger Peppe] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/ -- cgo: put temporary source files in _obj.
19:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/R2o2Up by [Dave Cheney] in go/src/cmd/ --
build: fix race condition building enam.o
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19:53 < inv_arp> KirkMcDonald: know your a Python guru, starting new
projects in Go?
19:53 < plexdev> http://is.gd/lmf1DO by [Russ Cox] in go/src/ -- fix build
19:53 < KirkMcDonald> inv_arp: I fiddled around with it when Go was first
released, but I haven't had any good projects for Go lately.
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19:55 < inv_arp> ah k
19:56 < KirkMcDonald> The last thing I was looking at was the build tool
"redo".
19:56 < KirkMcDonald> Which is interesting in its way, but doesn't offer
much for Go.
19:57 < rm445> I had a look at that, it's quite cool but Go makes it a bit
of a pain to use.
19:58 < rm445> It's trivial to write a .do file for every .6 file, but
writing a default.6.do would be slightly complicated.
19:58 < KirkMcDonald> It has a compelling model for automatically
determining dependencies, but given the way Go works, it doesn't offer much of an
advantage.
19:58 < KirkMcDonald> Yeah, that.
19:58 < skelterjohn> try out http://go-gb.googlecode.com :)
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19:58 < skelterjohn> makes building go projects trivial
19:58 < KirkMcDonald> Yeah, there are other things.
19:59 < skelterjohn> dep analysis, and some other tools
19:59 < KirkMcDonald> D is a more interesting case, with redo.
19:59 < skelterjohn> i just don't like build tools that need instructions
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19:59 < skelterjohn> they should have reasonable defaults that make sense
for 99% of projects
19:59 < skelterjohn> and optional configuration for the other 1%
20:00 < rm445> if you make the samm assumption as GB, that every source file
in a directory belongs in that package, then the redo file is simple
20:00 < KirkMcDonald> For a language to get much of an advantage from redo,
it needs to offer two things.
20:00 < skelterjohn> the redo file may be simple, but you still have to
create it
20:00 < KirkMcDonald> The first is the ability to compile an object file (or
whatever you call the target) given only the name of the object.
20:01 < KirkMcDonald> So for D, if you're given foo.o, you can know that you
need to do: dmd -c -offoo.o foo.d
20:01 < KirkMcDonald> This doesn't hold for Go, obviously.
20:02 < skelterjohn> i find the fact that all the source for a pkg is
compiled in the same 6g call convenient
20:02 < KirkMcDonald> The other is the ability to output a list of the
object's dependencies during the compilation step.
20:02 < skelterjohn> go certainly has that
20:02 < KirkMcDonald> Yes.
20:02 < KirkMcDonald> But it's irrelevant, for these purposes.
20:03 < rm445> ooh, how do you get gc to do that?
20:03 < skelterjohn> gc won't tell you
20:03 < skelterjohn> but you can use the go/parser package to get it
20:03 < skelterjohn> quite easily
20:03 < KirkMcDonald> skelterjohn: There is an important disinction to be
made here.
20:03 < KirkMcDonald> distinction*
20:04 < KirkMcDonald> skelterjohn: You are referring to the use of static
analysis to parse out the imports of a package.
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20:04 < KirkMcDonald> skelterjohn: I am referring to having the compiler
output the things that it actually requires for compilation, during compilation.
20:05 < KirkMcDonald> skelterjohn: To be fair, Go doesn't really offer
features which make these different.
20:05 < KirkMcDonald> skelterjohn: Except, say, omitting a .go file or not
when you compile a package.
20:06 < KirkMcDonald> D, on the other hand (and I did say D was not
interesting with respect to redo) has conditional compilation features...
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20:06 < KirkMcDonald> Where the imports can differ based on which -version
flags to give to the compiler, say.
20:06 < KirkMcDonald> Anyway.
20:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/j2iLCi by [Dave Cheney] in 2 subdirs of go/ --
build: simplify clean.bash
20:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/9AJmrQ by [Roger Peppe] in
go/src/cmd/goinstall/ -- goinstall: protect against malicious filenames.
20:10 < plexdev> http://is.gd/P1O8m1 by [Yasuhiro Matsumoto] in
go/src/pkg/xml/ -- xml: fix typo in test.
20:10 < rm445> yow.  I think Go is simple enough to build with redo if you
just had a list of which files are in each package.  Getting that list efficiently
is a bit of a pain
20:11 < rm445> skelterjohn: the idea would be that one person writes the go
redo script, which then gets packaged with the build tool itself.
20:11 < skelterjohn> oh i see, so no one would have to write it again as
long as they conformed
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20:13 < rm445> In any case, redo is simple and powerful enough that I'd
consider it for something I didn't know how to do with make, even if I had to frob
the build scripts by hand if the project changed.
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20:13 < rm445> It's a bit like just writing a build.sh shellscript, except a
little more fiddly but much more efficient for rebuilds.
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20:14 < skelterjohn> how easy is it to distribute redo with a project?
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20:17 < rm445> it's like a megabyte of python and gubbins.  I don't know how
portable it really is but basically it adds a dependency on python.
20:17 < skelterjohn> ah
20:18 < skelterjohn> one nice thing about gb is that it will create a set of
makefiles, if you want to distribute without an extra dependency
20:20 < rm445> that's cool.
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20:28 < skelterjohn> well, i figured a js chatroom would have more relevancy
than a general programming one =p
20:28 < skelterjohn> since people here actually do web apps
20:28 < skelterjohn> oops wrong chan
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20:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/KSd8qg by [Dave Cheney] in go/src/pkg/runtime/
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21:29 < plexdev> http://is.gd/REi438 by [Gustavo Niemeyer] in 2 subdirs of
go/ -- gc: fix init of packages named main
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21:33 < donpdonp> is there an irb-style (from ruby) shell for go?
21:33 < aiju> no
21:33 < donpdonp> ;(
21:34 < aiju> i don't know why people like REPLs
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21:34 < aiju> i just use a text editor
21:34 < donpdonp> its a good way to start interacting with go at a simple
level.  the immediate feedback is satisfying when one is learning the very basics
21:35 < skelterjohn> there are go repls
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21:35 < skelterjohn> check out http://go-lang.cat-v.org/dev-utils
21:36 < aiju> skelterjohn: with a 2s delay because of linking?  ;P
21:36 < skelterjohn> heh
21:36 < skelterjohn> it's like 1s :)
21:37 < donpdonp> skelterjohn: thx!
21:38 < skelterjohn> consider using the go playground, though
21:38 < donpdonp> skelterjohn: ah that's certainly easier to setup.  thx.
http://golang.org/doc/play/
21:41 < zozoR> i would really wish that you cold put a flag on the compiler
saying "I DONT CARE IF I DONT USE THESE VARIABLES"
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21:41 < skelterjohn> forces you to write cleaner code
21:41 < skelterjohn> i felt the same way, earlier
21:41 < skelterjohn> but now i like it
21:42 < skelterjohn> same with importing things i didn't use
21:42 < zozoR> i dont like it when i test some code, then keep it away till
i need it
21:42 < zozoR> i'd have to comment it out : |
21:42 < skelterjohn> x := 2; _ = x
21:42 < skelterjohn> won't complain about x not being used
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21:45 < zozoR> nice, didnt know that :D
21:45 < zozoR> thanks
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22:21 < ross`> can go ARM binaries run on the ipad
22:21 < ross`> ?
22:23 < skelterjohn> i'd imagine not
22:23 < skelterjohn> but who knows
22:23 < skelterjohn> unless you jailbreak your ipad, i think it'd be hard to
load go code onto it
22:23 < ross`> skelterjohn: apparently we don't :p
22:23 < ross`> skelterjohn: yes, if jailbroken
22:24 < ross`> skelterjohn: if you get the binary on there, will it run
22:24 < skelterjohn> i wouldn't know where to begin
22:24 < skelterjohn> can certainly target ARM
22:24 < ross`> skelterjohn: not looking for a howto, just want to know if
the thing would run, or it the iOS would reject it
22:25 < skelterjohn> one nice thing about go is that the executable brings
its runtime along with it
22:25 < nickbp> probably depends on if ios has posix or whatever available
22:25 < skelterjohn> everything it needs is already there
22:25 < nickbp> even a statically linked binary has to talk to the os at
some point
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22:25 < ross`> that is useful, but does that make for a fat binary?
22:26 < skelterjohn> yep
22:26 < ross`> how fat
22:26 < skelterjohn> haven't checked
22:26 < skelterjohn> give it a shot :)
22:26 < skelterjohn> sorry, have to head out
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22:27 < nickbp> could easily be a couple meg
22:27 < nickbp> s
22:27 < ross`> ok, thats for the input
22:27 < nickbp> not sure about go specifically, but thats at least the
territory in eg c/cpp
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23:54 < ewanas> I've a question about godoc
23:54 < ewanas> looking at vector.go, it doesn't seem like documentation is
included in the file
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23:56 < ewanas> at least the header of the file doesn't seem to house the
documentation
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