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09:44 < oal> What do you do when you're googling for go specific
information?  "go" gives all sorts of results, "golang" is rather limited.  Any
thoughts?
09:45 < str1ngs> oal: go lang helps some
09:45 < str1ngs> what are you looking for?
09:46 < xyproto> oal: have you tried this search page?
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/go-search
09:46 < oal> I was searching for some benchmarks to compare it with c, more
than just running a loop.  Something more like a real-world application
benchmarked
09:46 < xyproto> oal: also, "go", "go programming" or "golang" combined with
what you're searching for should help
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09:47 < oal> xyproto, is it down?
09:49 < xyproto> oal: the link to go-search?  no
09:50 < oal> Doesn't load for me.  Will try again later
09:50 < xyproto> oal: Also, there are benchmarks trying to compare Go to
other languages.  Here's one, appropriately named "The Computer Language
Benchmarks Game":
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=go&lang2=python3
09:50 < xyproto> oal: Strange.  I just tried it again.  Works here.
09:51 < xyproto> Mind that Go is a new language, so the benchmark code
samples has not had as much time to settle as for C.
09:51 < oal> Looks like several sites have stopped loaring.  Maybe my isp is
having trouble
09:51 < xyproto> (And gccgo creates code that is quicker than 6g/8g, afaik)
09:52 < xyproto> oal: dns problem?  You could try another dns-server.
09:52 < str1ngs> xyproto: gccgo can optimize code with gcc, how ever
goroutines are not as good.  so its pretty even
09:52 < oal> shootout loaded now, but not the other one.  Yup, maybe I
should switch to opendns again?
09:53 < xyproto> str1ngs: I see.
09:53 < str1ngs> xyproto: gccgo also has smaller binaries
09:55 < xyproto> oal: when it comes to speed compared to C, I think we will
see a lot of improvement over the next years.  I think the focus is still to
polish the language inself instead of approaching C in speed.
09:55 < str1ngs> oal: you are better of just writing some things in go.
from what I have seen it is not as fast as C. but its faster then scripting etc.
09:56 < oal> Sounds good.  :)
09:56 < str1ngs> keep in mind it tends to be faster to develop in go then C.
and if cross compile or build go alot.  its much easier then working with say gcc
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09:56 < hallas> hey all
09:56 < str1ngs> 40min to build gcc 40s to build go :P
09:57 < hallas> hehe
09:57 < oal> I saw some of the videos at golang, and the build speeds are
very impressive
09:57 < xyproto> Also, things like garbage collectors may not look as happy
shiny as pure assembly in benchmarks, but it may still be something you want in a
million-line project (and may even make it faster, overall?)
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09:58 < xyproto> oal: yeah, the suitedness for large projects (static
typing, unused includes not allowed, quick compilation times) is one of the great
things about Go, I think
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09:59 < oal> If I wanted to create a blog with go, would you recommend me
starting with web.go, or to create it all from the bottom up?
10:00 < fzzbt> bottom up
10:00 < jnwhiteh> on app engine :P
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10:03 < str1ngs> oal: bottom up would be better you would learn alot more
that way.
10:03 < str1ngs> there is a wiki codelab in the go source tree
10:04 < jnwhiteh> and the http package is very quickly becoming a major
focus of Go, so it's quite good to learn that.
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10:05 < oal> Thanks, then I have something to start off with.  :)
10:05 < xyproto> oal: web.go is nice, but the feel is not that different
from neither the http package nor the app engine.
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13:05 < taruti> Has anyone got email parsing code in Go?
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13:18 < wrtp> taruti: email address, or email message parsing?
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13:18 < taruti> wrtp: message
13:20 < wrtp> taruti: no, sorry
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13:39 < hallas> Anyway I can smoothly concatenate two slices into one?
13:40 < pharris> concatenated := append(slice1, slice2…)
13:42 < pharris> That's three dots, not an ellipsis (as my irc client is
wont to do)
13:42 < aiju> heh
13:42 < aiju> what irc client does such abominable things?
13:42 < pharris> Adium.
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13:42 < Tonnerre> I can write «…» too, it's easy: compose . .
13:43 < aiju> alt gr + . here
13:43 < aiju> not done automatically though
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14:17 < g0g0g0> ahoy!
14:19 < g0g0g0> have a simple question about go
14:19 < g0g0g0> what's the diff between "=" and ":=" ?
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14:20 < g0g0g0> /?
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14:22 < dlowe> g0g0g0: := declares the variable too
14:23 < g0g0g0> dlowe: ah!  ok, so no need of "var <varname> =
<val> "
14:23 < dlowe> var <varname> <type> = <val> :)
14:23 < dlowe> not having to type in the type is the big win here
14:24 < g0g0g0> I see, thanks so much dlowe, it was bugging me, (just a noob
passing through)
14:24 < g0g0g0> :)
14:25 < dlowe> it can be confusing, especially since := is the assignment
operator in some languages
14:25 < moraes> or a big nose in smilies :=)
14:27 < g0g0g0> dlowe: yes, i looked under assignment in the spec, but
did'nt find it there, so thought i'd pester the good folks at IRC :=)
14:27 < moraes> the tutorial tells about it:
http://golang.org/doc/go_tutorial.html
14:27 < moraes> "The := operator is used a lot in Go to represent an
initializing declaration" ...
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14:29 < g0g0g0> moraes: thanks!  "initializing declaration" ...  I saw it in
for loops (haven't gone through the tutorial yet ...  just watched the IO talks
,,, so I was curious)
14:29 < dlowe> heh.  I gave Pike a hard time in the Q/A at one of those
talks
14:29 < dlowe> he had a good answer, though.  I was impressed
14:32 < g0g0g0> Pike and Gerrand did very well, very good presenters
14:33 < fzzbt> was there another talk somewhere?
14:33 < hallas> dlowe: what wsa your question?
14:33 < hallas> was*
14:34 < dlowe> criticisms of mark and sweep garbage collection trashing the
cpu cache
14:35 < hallas> I havent had the pleasure to work with gc yet
14:35 < hallas> :p
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14:35 < dlowe> haven't allocated anything in Go?
14:35 < skelterjohn> hehe
14:35 < hallas> Not like that ;-)
14:36 < hallas> But for me to know about mark and sweep, moving vs non
moving etc
14:36 < hallas> dont know shit
14:36 < hallas> except the names :P
14:36 < dlowe> Ah, I see
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14:36 < dlowe> Well, the point of gc is so you don't have to think about
that stuff
14:37 < dlowe> unless, you know, you really want to
14:37 < hallas> I know what it is though :-)
14:37 < hallas> But, the GC in Go, is a feature added because you use the g
compilers yes?
14:37 < dlowe> The gcc Go has gc too
14:38 < hallas> So its a compiler thing
14:38 < dlowe> heck, you can have gc in C if you install the right libraries
14:38 < hallas> Say i had a go compiler that didnt, then I could very well
have allocated something in Go without playing with a gc :-)
14:39 < hallas> what did rob answer?
14:44 < g0g0g0> I remember the question, but don't remember the ansewr Pike
gave ...  lol
14:46 < xyproto> dlowe: is the mark and sweep method considered ineffective
in some circumstances?  What did Pike say?  :)
14:47 < g0g0g0> hallas: I think that question is around 00:47 onwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i0hat7pdpk
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14:47 < g0g0g0> "you have to know what you're doing, but at least it's
possible"
14:48 < xyproto> g0g0g0: ah, I haven't watched that one yet.  Thanks for the
link.  :)
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14:57 < wrtp> xyproto: it's an interesting talk, well worth watching
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15:01 < skelterjohn> the problem with having no GC is the memory safety
feature for things passed around in closures, etc
15:01 < skelterjohn> and things put on the heap automatically
15:01 < skelterjohn> basically, things for which you don't call make
explicitly
15:01 < wrtp> skelterjohn: not to mention concurrency
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15:01 < skelterjohn> i'm not sure what you're referring to
15:01 < wrtp> who has responsibility for an object in a concurrent
environment?
15:02 < skelterjohn> up to the dev
15:02 < skelterjohn> that isn't a fundamental block in the way that the
other issue is
15:03 < skelterjohn> a hybrid gc/explicit system would be interesting
15:03 < skelterjohn> every call to make has to be matched by a free, other
things are GC'd
15:03 < wrtp> skelterjohn: doesn't that give you the worst of both worlds?
15:03 < skelterjohn> then if you really wanted to get down to it, you could
run an analysis to weed out all the implicit allocations
15:03 < skelterjohn> don't be a downer, i'm just thinking out loud O:-)
15:03 < wrtp> i.e.  the unsafety of being able to free something that you
didn't alloc, and the cache-breaking cost of the GC
15:04 < wrtp> :-)
15:04 < skelterjohn> that's why you'd run the analysis
15:04 < skelterjohn> such an analysis tool would be very useful even without
this setuo
15:04 < skelterjohn> setup
15:04 < wrtp> what kind of analysis?
15:05 < wrtp> static or dynamic?
15:05 < skelterjohn> a tool to tell you what got put on the heap w/out
make()
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15:05 < wrtp> at run time?
15:05 < skelterjohn> compile time
15:05 < skelterjohn> that is, var x int; foo(&x)
15:05 < skelterjohn> x is on the heap
15:06 < skelterjohn> i know that because i read something
15:06 < wrtp> that's not going to be necessarily true forever
15:06 < skelterjohn> but having a tool tell me that for all cases, no
misses, would be very useful
15:06 < skelterjohn> more reason to have a tool for that
15:06 < skelterjohn> maybe a compiler flag
15:06 < skelterjohn> who knows what the best approach is
15:07 < wrtp> yeah, a tool to show allocation points might be useful
15:07 < skelterjohn> but the information exists and isn't necessarily easy
for a person to figure out by hand
15:07 < ww> who was it that was doing pos tagging in go?
15:07 < wrtp> ww: pos tagging?
15:07 * ww apologises for terrible memory
15:07 < skelterjohn> part of speech
15:07 < ww> part of speech
15:07 < skelterjohn> great acronym.
15:08 < skelterjohn> man, i don't get all the activity about this bitset
package on the ML
15:08 < wrtp> i don't remember that
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15:08 < skelterjohn> every time i see the new post count, i say to myself
"nothing more can be said about such a simple idea"
15:09 < wrtp> skelterjohn: Will is keen, so why not?
15:09 < skelterjohn> sure, i'd never reply to the thread with such toughts
15:09 < skelterjohn> thoughts
15:09 < wrtp> skelterjohn: but you can use big.Int for the same purpose -
it'll work quite well
15:09 < wrtp> (better in some ways)
15:11 < Kissaki> PENG!
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15:32 < ab3> is there a way to get a single value from a multi-value
context?
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15:32 < wrtp> ab3: yes, but it's usually better just to write out the
assignment
15:33 < wrtp> you can do, for instance: n := func()int{n, _ = r.Read(buf);
return n}
15:34 < ab3> ok that is ugly :D
15:35 < dlowe> n := func()int{n, _ = r.Read(buf); return n}()
15:35 < dlowe> ?
15:35 < dlowe> otherwise the type of n is func()int
15:35 < wrtp> dlowe: yes
15:35 < dlowe> but yes.  fugly.
15:36 < wrtp> ab3: there was a thread on golang-nuts recently.
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15:37 < wrtp> if you need to do it (for example at global level) then i
think the consensus was writing a little named function to do it was probably the
best way
15:38 < ab3> k, i will look at that
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15:40 < dlowe> Common lisp has a function called nth-value that might be
worth replicating
15:41 < aiju> a[n]?
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15:43 < hallas> why is a, _, c ugly?
15:43 < hallas> its so pretty
15:43 < wrtp> dlowe: lisp is much must expression-based than go
15:43 < hallas> remins me of ML
15:44 < wrtp> go tends to keep expressions at a relatively low level of
nesting
15:44 < ab3> hallas: inlining a function that only selects one of them is
ugli imo
15:44 < wrtp> ab3: it is, but you don't need to do it
15:45 < wrtp> i've written quite a bit of go code and i've never felt the
need
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16:07 < freetz> would like to redirect stdio over netchans, what's the right
(or a good) way to pass this into os.ProcAttr?
16:07 < freetz> i would expect something like
16:07 < freetz> f := []*os.File(netchan, netchan, netchan)
16:07 < freetz> os.ProcAttr(...  f)
16:07 < freetz> do i just need to write an interface around it?
16:08 < skelterjohn> what doe sit mean to redirect a reader over a chan?
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16:09 < skelterjohn> a reader is something you .Read() from.  a chan is
something you send<- to or <-recv from
16:12 < wrtp> freetz: you'd have to write a type which turned reads into
channel receives
16:12 < wrtp> i've done this before - it's not too hard
16:12 < freetz> that's what i thought, i just didn't know if there was a
builtin way
16:12 < wrtp> freetz: no, there's not AFAIK
16:13 < freetz> thanks
16:13 < wrtp> freetz: i'm not entirely sure what you mean by "redirecting
stdio over netchan" actually
16:13 < wrtp> do you want fmt.Printf to send to netchan?
16:13 < skelterjohn> if you want something that takes a reader and makes a
chan out of it (you have to tell it how), you could try
https://github.com/skelterjohn/exp/tree/master/iochan
16:13 < freetz> yes,
16:14 < skelterjohn> oh, that's the other direction
16:14 < skelterjohn> it wouldn't be much work to subtype a chan string and
give it a Print(format string, args ...string) method
16:15 < skelterjohn> it would call fmt.Sprintf and send it on the chan
16:15 < skelterjohn> oh but i'm probably still misunderstanding
16:15 < skelterjohn> you want to hijack stdout?
16:15 < freetz> I want to redirect the stdio from os.StartProcess
16:16 < freetz> i can just wrap a new type around it, i just wondered if
there was a builtin way to do it
16:16 < skelterjohn> ah - then maybe my iochan will work for you
16:16 < skelterjohn> it takes a reader and gives you a channel
16:17 < freetz> looking at it now, it just amy'
16:17 < freetz> may
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16:23 < wrtp> skelterjohn: what's the separator for in iochan?
16:24 < skelterjohn> to separate the messages that get sent on the channel
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16:24 < skelterjohn> for insteance, maybe you want to read lines from a file
16:24 < skelterjohn> maybe your protocol uses a colon
16:24 < skelterjohn> *shrug*
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16:27 < wrtp> freetz: if you don't need to split the input, this code might
do what you want: http://pastebin.com/FmUABrvK
16:27 < wrtp> freetz: it's probably more than you need because it implements
timeouts too, but it would be easy to strip down
16:28 < skelterjohn> what does it mean to not split the input - wait until
eof and send one big string?
16:29 < freetz> ahh thanks, that looks like it will work
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16:34 < ab3> what is a good dumy operation i can do on a var while
debugging, so i don't have to replace every unused var with _ and comment out a
lot of stuff
16:34 < skelterjohn> _ = x
16:35 < skelterjohn> it's a noop and suppresses the "unused var x" message
16:35 < wrtp> skelterjohn: just split the input at arbitrary places (usually
buffer boundaries)
16:35 < ab3> skelterjohn: k thx
16:35 < wrtp> skelterjohn: that's what the network usually does
16:36 < skelterjohn> then sending it on a chan seems like the wrong thing
to do
16:36 < skelterjohn> but, every tool has a use
16:37 < wrtp> skelterjohn: if you want to use it with netchan, there's no
alternative
16:38 < skelterjohn> one might ask why you're using netchan instead of
regular sockets in such a case
16:38 < skelterjohn> if all you want to do is forward data to another
machine, that is easily done
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16:41 < wrtp> skelterjohn: netchan allows you to multiplex many
conversations over a single connection
16:41 < wrtp> if you're not going to do that, i agree
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17:26 < jeremy_c> How can I make a C string 4096 in size and then populate
it with the contents of a go string?
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17:27 < skelterjohn> you don't want to use C.CString()
17:27 < jeremy_c> The problem is I need 4096 in length but the initial
string may only be 10 characters, or event empty.
17:28 < skelterjohn> you'll have to do it by hand
17:28 < jeremy_c> the C function I am calling could possibly populate the
memory I allocated with a string up to 4096 characters.
17:28 < skelterjohn> in the C code, probably
17:28 < wrtp> jeremy_c: c := make([]byte, 4096); copy(c, s); c[len(s)] = 0
17:28 < skelterjohn> i think in _cgo_export.h it might give you a struct for
go strings
17:28 < wrtp> then pass &c[0] to C
17:28 < skelterjohn> or you can take advantage of the fact that it happens
to be the first word in the struct :)
17:29 < skelterjohn> it = the char*
17:29 < wrtp> jeremy_c: i think what i wrote above should work.  i don't
there's any need for unsafe hackery here.
17:30 < skelterjohn> passing &c[0] is unsafe hackery.  it's just not import
"unsafe" hackery.
17:30 < wrtp> it's not unsafe, i don't think
17:30 < wrtp> (apart from the fact that anything you do in C is unsafe)
17:30 < skelterjohn> is the layout of a gostring in the spec?
17:31 < wrtp> &c[0] doesn't rely on the layout of a gostring
17:31 < skelterjohn> i mean a []byte
17:31 < skelterjohn> sorry
17:31 < wrtp> it just uses the address of the first byte
17:31 < skelterjohn> what if the []byte had the length and cap first, and
then the data?
17:31 < wrtp> it doesn't rely on the layout of a slice either
17:31 < skelterjohn> oh duh
17:31 < skelterjohn> of course, my mistake
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17:31 < skelterjohn> it depends on the fact that the data is contiguous
17:32 < skelterjohn> which is a pretty safe bet
17:32 < wrtp> sure.  that's guaranteed, i think
17:32 < jeremy_c> thanks guys, the copy() trick does work.  I've not used
copy before.
17:32 < wrtp> copy is dead useful
17:32 < wrtp> jeremy_c: you could have written a loop to copy the bytes
yourself, but copy is faster and easier
17:33 < skelterjohn> ideally it would be just as fast w/ go code
17:34 < wrtp> skelterjohn: you'd need a *much* better optimiser
17:35 < wrtp> skelterjohn: i don't know if even gcc can optimise a for(i :=
0; i < n; i++){c[i] = s[i]} to a memmove...
17:36 < skelterjohn> isn't copy more than that?
17:36 < skelterjohn> something about guarantees for overlapping regions
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17:41 < wrtp> skelterjohn: that's what memmove does, but it's only one check
at the start.
17:42 < skelterjohn> i guess it counts down instead of up, in those cases?
17:42 < wrtp> yes, i think so
17:42 < taruti> Did someone write a llvm binding?
17:42 < skelterjohn> wait, i don't know if that makes sense
17:42 < wrtp> if you were writing the loop by hand, that's what you'd do, so
to get code as fast, the compiler would have to recognise it and call memmove
(which uses assembly tricks to be really quick)
17:42 < taruti> ah found it
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17:46 < wrtp> skelterjohn: see
http://golang.org/src/pkg/runtime/amd64/memmove.s
17:46 < skelterjohn> i'm not much for assembler:s
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17:48 < wrtp> skelterjohn: well, it's fast, trust me :-) (the main loop is
one instruction)
17:52 < skelterjohn> wrtp: if you've got a minute, there's a completely
different issue that's been baffling me
17:52 < wrtp> skelterjohn: go on
17:52 < skelterjohn> and i know you have some experience with the internals
of cgo
17:53 < wrtp> not that much...  :-)
17:53 < skelterjohn> when gb tries to link with gcc, sometimes it fails
17:53 < skelterjohn> but if i run the exact same command in the same place,
except from the terminal
17:53 < skelterjohn> it works fine
17:53 < skelterjohn> so i figure it's an env issue
17:53 < skelterjohn> but i'm having trouble figuring out what i'm missing
17:53 < wrtp> what error do you get?
17:53 < skelterjohn> undefined symbols
17:54 < skelterjohn> the symbols will be _x
17:54 < skelterjohn> where x is a function in the framework i'm trying to
bring in
17:54 < skelterjohn> (a framework i wrote, but this happens with other libs
too)
17:56 < wrtp> skelterjohn: have you tried running with a pristine
environment?
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17:56 < skelterjohn> running gb or gcc?
17:58 < skelterjohn> the only difference in the env vars is PATH
17:58 < skelterjohn> and _
17:59 < skelterjohn> (comparing os.Env right before i invoke gcc from gb and
"env" run in the shell)
17:59 < skelterjohn> and os.Env has [invalid string] for one of them
18:01 < skelterjohn> and i'm passing nil to exec.Run, which should just pass
the parent env vars through
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18:08 < wrtp> skelterjohn: PATH can make quite a difference...  does it
change when the two PATHs are identical?
18:09 < skelterjohn> there is no path in the env inside gb.  i'm not sure
why this is the case
18:10 < skelterjohn> setting it by hand in the source didn't change anything
18:11 < skelterjohn> i'm pretty sure the issue is it not finding frameworks
- it works for regular libraries like -lm etc
18:11 < skelterjohn> just not -framework myframework
18:12 < skelterjohn> or any other framework
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18:13 < skelterjohn> and the framework is in /Library/Frameworks, so it's
not anywhere clever
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18:18 < skelterjohn> oh - i think i found the error
18:18 < skelterjohn> "-framework myframework" is being passed as a single
command line argument
18:19 < skelterjohn> rather than two, "-framework" and "myframework"
18:19 < skelterjohn> with "-lm" it isn't a problem
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18:26 < skelterjohn> that was it :)
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18:33 < skelterjohn> (thanks for sound-boarding)
18:36 < ebering> I'm using container/ring to hold a ring of points and I'd
like to implement various max and min queries against this.  The Schemer in me
says that there should be a ring.Fold method that folds a ring in the same style
as foldl and foldr from scheme and I should write in terms of that.  There isn't
one in the standard library, so is this the go way or is there some other way that
is more idiomatic in go?
18:38 < skelterjohn> is there a particular reason to be clever?
18:38 < skelterjohn> why not just iterate through and track the max/min?
18:38 < skelterjohn> with go code, i try to not be clever if i can avoid it
18:39 < skelterjohn> it's much easier to find mistakes in obvious code
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18:50 < jeremy_c> Is there a reason not to be clever?  Go has many clever
things in it.
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18:51 < skelterjohn> there is a quote out there, somewhere, that can be
paraphrased like this: everyone knows that debugging is twice as hard as coding,
so if you're as clever as you can be while coding, how can you ever hope to debug?
18:52 < jeremy_c> I would think reducing multiple lines of code into a well
testing method would decrease bugs, increase debugability (new word?  :-))
18:53 < skelterjohn> i have found that to not be the case
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18:53 < skelterjohn> conciseness is good to a point
18:53 < skelterjohn> but not to the extreme
18:54 < jeremy_c> that seems strange to me, I wonder how it could not be.
Now...  using methods that are voodoo and not understood is terrible.
18:54 < skelterjohn> well, just reducing things to smaller functions isn't
really the "clever" i'm talking about
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18:54 < jeremy_c> but if you are use to and understand what foldl/foldr
does, I can't see how it hurts but only helps.
18:55 < chomp> the conciseness of an expression says nothing about its
complexity
18:55 < jeremy_c> skelterjohn: I do agree with you *100%* making things
"clever" for the sake of reducing line count is a waste of time.
18:55 < skelterjohn> but some code i wrote many years in python that has
three list comprehensions on the same line comes to mind
18:55 < chomp> complexity is what makes debugging hard
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18:55 < skelterjohn> i couldn't figure out what it did the next day
18:56 < jeremy_c> right.  that *is* bad.  but one who uses list
comprehension day in and day out may not have a problem 2 years later knowing what
is going on.
18:56 < skelterjohn> it's nice to have other people be able to read your
code, too
18:57 < jeremy_c> yes, other people who are similarly skilled I'd suppose.
I don't wish to write for the lowest common denominator.
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18:57 < chomp> code that can be read efficiently by a very small number of
people has no long-term value.  it will inevitably be rewritten.
18:57 < skelterjohn> but something like just finding a max/min ...  as long
as you wrap the calls to fold in a function called "Max()" or "Min()", i wouldn't
mind
18:57 < chomp> there's a middle ground between "lowest common denominator"
and "5000 people in the universe"
18:57 < jeremy_c> indeed.
18:58 < jeremy_c> is foldr/foldl really > middle ground though?
18:58 < chomp> certainly not
18:58 < chomp> though applied to a ring i'm not sure there's much sense to
it conceptually
18:58 < jeremy_c> skelterjohn: who did you say the maintainer of the project
dashboard is?
18:59 < skelterjohn> adg/andrew gerrand
18:59 < jeremy_c> chomp: you're probably right there.
19:03 < str1ngs> I think I'll paint my shed blue!
19:03 < wrtp> ebering: idiomatic Go style doesn't use higher order functions
much.  this doesn't seem to make the code much bigger, in most cases.
19:04 < skelterjohn> it's hard to write higher order functions without
generics
19:04 < skelterjohn> i did some experiments a while back with interface{},
but it was annoying
19:05 < wrtp> yeah.
19:06 < wrtp> given that ring.Ring implements, Do, you could write some
higher order functions that worked on type interface {Do(func(interface{}))}
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19:07 < wrtp> it would be nicer if Do returned bool, to request iteration
termination
19:07 < skelterjohn> using Do to compute min/max by storing it in a closer
would be neat
19:07 < skelterjohn> i think ebering should do it that way :)
19:10 < ebering> skelterjohn: hm yes after some thinking that is what I have
done
19:11 < skelterjohn> cool
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19:11 < ebering> well, fold can be implemented in terms of Do
19:11 < ebering> in fact you can do fancier things
19:12 < ebering> not that I really want to
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19:24 < ebering> }/win 2
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19:32 < skelterjohn> i don't get it
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19:32 < skelterjohn> what does "}/win 2" mean
19:32 < skelterjohn> oh probably an irc macro that got messed up
19:32 < Tonnerre> Exactly
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20:51 < Tonnerre> Has anybody here tried to build the Go supported libthrift
yet?
20:51 < Tonnerre> I applied the SVN patch and I always get: No generator
named 'go' could be found!
20:52 < Tonnerre> Also, for some reason I get
20:52 < Tonnerre> THRIFT_GEN_go_FALSE='#'
20:52 < Tonnerre> THRIFT_GEN_go_TRUE=''
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20:52 < Tonnerre> So it seems to have silently set it to false
20:53 < Tonnerre> I can't find anything about it in config.log
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20:53 < Tonnerre> So if anyone tried to use libthrift with Go I'd be glad
for input
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21:44 < uriel> Tonnerre: might be a good idea to ask the thrift people as it
is in their lib :)
21:44 < Tonnerre> uriel: sure but they don't have IRC ;)
21:44 < Tonnerre> uriel: also, I figured someone here might know
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21:52 < uriel> Tonnerre: it was worth checking, but I have not seen anyone
around here trying thrift, might be worth trying the gonuts list too
21:54 < Tonnerre> In the end what I want is to use Go to talk to Apache
Cassandra
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23:15 < jeremy_c> Any users of kuroneko's sqlite3 on windows?
last_insert_id always retruns bogus values.  I a bit concerned it might be a go
bug?  I then tried gosqlite.googlecode.com and it has the same problem (after I
added the wrapper for it).
23:16 < jeremy_c> a C example doing the exact same thing returns the correct
id.
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23:21 < mjard> jeremy_c: I just started getting into it
23:22 < jeremy_c> I'm in the process of writing a test wrapper that just has
4 methods, open, exec, last insert id and close to see if I have the same problem.
23:22 < jeremy_c> mjard: did you try last insert id?
23:23 < mjard> not yet, I'll give it a run
23:24 < jeremy_c> mjard: http://pastie.org/1913542 is a simple test that I
set up.
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23:29 < mjard> id=1
23:29 < mjard> seems to be correct?
23:29 < jeremy_c> yup, that's right.
23:29 < jeremy_c> You're on windows?
23:29 < mjard> linux
23:29 < jeremy_c> ah, ok.  I've not had a problem with it on Linux, only
Windows.
23:29 < mjard> works in my example too
23:29 < mjard> ah
23:30 < mjard> the same in c works on windows?
23:30 < jeremy_c> yup.
23:31 < mjard> should be fairly easy to come up with a test case to give to
the golang developers
23:31 < jeremy_c> http://pastie.org/1913574 ...  that's the C code
23:32 < jeremy_c> just about done.
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23:42 < jeremy_c> Ok, my simple wrapper returns bogus values as well :-/
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23:48 < mjard> don't know enough about go/cgo, but I bet you could trim your
example down to: garbage := int64(C.Int64(1))
23:50 < jeremy_c> Int64 is undeclared
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23:52 < mjard> yeah, I kinda made that up
23:56 < jeremy_c> nope that didn't expose the bug.
23:57 < jeremy_c> I made a C function: long long int one() { return 1; } ...
and then the equiv Go wrapper.  The go result is 1.
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23:59 < uriel> Tonnerre: there are clients for casandra I think
23:59 < jeremy_c> Any C expert who is also on windows?  My test code (very
small) is on http://github.com/jcowgar/sqlite3gotest
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