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04:01 < dieselpowered> It seems like a real pain to me and I feel like I might be missing something... 04:02 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #go-nuts 04:04 -!- qeed [~qeed@adsl-98-85-155-163.mco.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:09 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:10 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has joined #go-nuts 04:27 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@173-8-182-114-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:29 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@200-163-166-19.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 04:29 -!- exch [~blbl@ip34-181-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:32 -!- ExtraSpice [XtraSpice@78-57-204-104.static.zebra.lt] has joined #go-nuts 04:35 -!- ijknacho [~goofy@cpe-72-190-64-3.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:46 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-gjxkfuikginfkelg] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:46 -!- exch [~blbl@ip34-181-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #go-nuts 04:49 < exch> dieselpowered: did you get the answer to your union question? If not, cgo represents unions as fixed size byte arrays. You'll need to use manualy bit twiddling or the encoding/binary package to red the appropriate values from it. 04:55 -!- TheCritic [~TheCritic@c-24-30-34-40.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: TheCritic] 04:58 -!- edsrzf [~edsrzf@122-61-221-144.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 05:03 < dieselpowered> exch: Yea, that's what I was afraid of. Although I just found a likely less painful suggestion on the mailing list http://bit.ly/lAtpms 05:04 < dieselpowered> exch: thanks though 05:04 < exch> yea that could work as well 05:05 < dieselpowered> goyaml seems to be doing something like that (https://launchpad.net/goyaml). So I'm going to try that angle. 05:09 < uriel> just say no to YAML 05:09 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:11 < dieselpowered> haha, not that I support YAML. I just need to peek at their sources. 05:13 -!- djbrown [~djbrown@unaffiliated/djbrown] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:15 -!- B3AN [~mgray@li226-224.members.linode.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:16 -!- thakis_ [~thakis@adsl-99-133-163-192.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: thakis_] 05:31 -!- TheCritic [~TheCritic@c-24-30-34-40.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:34 -!- thakis_ [~thakis@c-71-198-222-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:38 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.77.29] has joined #go-nuts 05:38 -!- edsrzf [~edsrzf@122-61-221-144.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:41 -!- coderendezvous [~coderende@adsl-98-66-2-41.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:42 -!- edsrzf [~edsrzf@122-61-221-144.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 05:56 -!- thakis_ [~thakis@c-71-198-222-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:57 -!- thakis_ [~thakis@216.239.45.130] has joined #go-nuts 05:59 < B3AN> join gcc 06:00 < vegai> don't do it! 06:01 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1C5FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #go-nuts 06:01 -!- elimisteve [~elimistev@ec2-50-16-219-29.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:05 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has joined #go-nuts 06:05 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has quit [Client Quit] 06:06 < elimisteve> Q: Can the experimental Go Runtime handle concurrent requests? 06:06 < elimisteve> A: Not currently. 06:07 < elimisteve> so is Go on App Engine limited in the same way Python is "naturally"? I thought we could have multiple goroutines chugging along in the one allotted thread? 06:11 < _dfc> elimisteve: that is correct 06:12 < Namegduf> I think they mean "in parallel" 06:12 < _dfc> however the maximum value of GOMAXPROCS supported under app engine 06:12 < _dfc> is one 06:12 < Namegduf> To be pedantic. 06:12 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13 < Namegduf> While I'm no fan of YAML, a non-shit config format is desirable and JSON is neither designed for, nor good at the job. 06:13 < Namegduf> And the ability to include sections in each other, have first-class support for listing multiple values for a setting, etc 06:13 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.96.18] has joined #go-nuts 06:13 < str1ngs> Namegduf: I agree. 06:13 < elimisteve> _dfc: which is correct? Go is limited like Python, or Go can have many goroutines running at once on GAE? 06:13 < Namegduf> Or multiple instances of a multivariate item. 06:14 < Namegduf> elimisteve: Go can have many goroutines running, but only one active thread executing on the CPU. 06:14 < elimisteve> thank you 06:15 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@173-8-182-114-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:17 -!- cenuij [~cenuij@103.184.122.78.rev.sfr.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:17 -!- cenuij [~cenuij@103.184.122.78.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:17 -!- cenuij [~cenuij@base/student/cenuij] has joined #go-nuts 06:18 -!- coderendezvous [~coderende@adsl-98-66-2-41.mem.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:22 -!- noodles775 [~michael@g229207141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 06:22 -!- noodles775 [~michael@g229207141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Changing host] 06:22 -!- noodles775 [~michael@canonical/launchpad/noodles775] has joined #go-nuts 06:31 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- bortzmeyer [~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr] has joined #go-nuts 06:38 -!- sacho [~sacho@90.154.206.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:46 -!- dshep [~user@c-76-103-91-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 06:48 -!- dfr|mac [~dfr|work@ool-182e3fca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:50 -!- moraes [~moraes@189.103.188.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53 -!- GeertJohan [~geertjoha@s51478c91.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #go-nuts 06:53 -!- kritic [~enzyme@216-26-194-207.dynamic.tbaytel.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:54 < GeertJohan> goodmorning :) 06:54 -!- kritic [~enzyme@216-26-194-207.dynamic.tbaytel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:54 < jessta_> morning 06:55 < cenuij> moin 06:55 -!- piranha [~piranha@D57D1AB3.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #go-nuts 06:59 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:02 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-15-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 07:05 -!- PortatoreSanoDiI [~Marvin@82.84.84.207] has joined #go-nuts 07:07 -!- message144 [~message14@pool-98-112-179-26.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 07:08 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.77.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.96.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 -!- sacho [~sacho@87-126-32-193.btc-net.bg] has joined #go-nuts 07:20 -!- krolaw [~krolaw@203.100.208.229] has joined #go-nuts 07:21 -!- B3AN [~mgray@li226-224.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:21 -!- sebastianskejoe [~sebastian@188.114.142.217] has joined #go-nuts 07:21 -!- PortatoreSanoDiI [~Marvin@82.84.84.207] has quit [Quit: E se abbasso questa leva che succ...] 07:21 -!- B3AN [~mgray@li226-224.members.linode.com] has joined #go-nuts 07:22 -!- napsy [~luka@193.2.66.6] has joined #go-nuts 07:23 -!- napsy [~luka@193.2.66.6] has quit [Client Quit] 07:24 -!- wrtp [~rog@92.30.144.148] has joined #go-nuts 07:28 -!- napsy [~luka@193.2.66.6] has joined #go-nuts 07:32 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has joined #go-nuts 07:35 -!- wrtp [~rog@92.30.144.148] has quit [Quit: wrtp] 07:42 -!- djbrown [~djbrown@unaffiliated/djbrown] has joined #go-nuts 07:43 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 07:47 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has quit [Quit: |Craig|] 07:59 -!- anticw_ [~anticw@c-98-210-108-13.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04 -!- B3AN [~mgray@li226-224.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:08 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has joined #go-nuts 08:15 -!- _dfc [~dfc@eth59-167-133-99.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:21 -!- anticw [~anticw@c-98-210-108-13.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:26 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #go-nuts 08:42 -!- Niedar [~bleh@ip68-99-166-222.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:43 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:48 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has joined #go-nuts 08:49 < mpl> hmm, if I have something like 'foo, err := somefunc()' and err is not nil, can I consider in the following that foo has already been declared and been assigned its zero value? or is it not even declared? 08:50 -!- sebastianskejoe [~sebastian@188.114.142.217] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:51 < mpl> hmm I suppose it is declared, and what is assigned to it actually depends on the implementation of somefunc. 08:52 -!- wrtp [~rog@92.30.144.148] has joined #go-nuts 08:56 < jessta_> mpl: yep 08:56 < mpl> kthx 08:57 < jessta_> the convention is that foo may not actually be nil(but usually is) but you should check err before using it 09:01 < uriel> mpl: err is a return value like any other 09:01 -!- dieselpowered [~bryan@c-67-180-244-115.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:01 < uriel> but note the convention jessta_ mentioned 09:02 < jessta_> mpl: eg. Read(p []byte) (n int, err os.Error) may return valid data in p and an err that isn't nil(because it's an os.EOF) 09:04 -!- NiteRain [~kvirc@c-98-254-236-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07 < mpl> yeah. 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On my machine, the simplest programs are over 1M binaries 10:11 < vegai> wait, that program wasn't so simple after all... :) 10:11 < vegai> yeah 224K. That's better 10:11 < vegai> oh, and it's *really* statically linked, not even needing libc 10:12 < vegai> as opposed to 'statically linked' programs that the haskell compiler makes 10:12 < nsf> hdon-: I recently had an experiment with my own compiler (whatever language it is) written in C++ 10:12 < nsf> dynamically linked LLVM makes load time 10ms longer 10:12 < nsf> statically linked it bloats executable up to 10 megs 10:12 < nsf> but it loads faster 10:12 < nsf> dynamic linking is evil 10:12 * vegai agrees 10:13 < vegai> and to make it more distressing, almost everyone seems to disagree with that notion :( 10:13 < hdon-> meh, depends how often you are spawning new processes i guess :) 10:13 < hdon-> it's a pain to update all your binaries just to update a lib 10:13 < Namegduf> hdon-: Not really. 10:13 < nsf> but you don't have to update all your binaries 10:14 < nsf> unless they are really buggy :) 10:14 < jessta_> vegai: the arguments for dynamic linking are easy to understand, the arguments against it are more complicated 10:14 < hdon-> nsf, :P 10:14 < nsf> well, you update a library for a reason right 10:14 < nsf> bugs were fixed 10:14 < nsf> optimizations were applied 10:14 < vegai> classic argument #2: with static linking, KDE would be gigabytes in size! 10:14 < nsf> new stuff appeared 10:14 < nsf> vegai: :D 10:15 * hdon- is not here for static vs. dynamic wars 10:15 < nsf> hdon-: too late, it's already started 10:15 < nsf> lol 10:15 < hdon-> thanks for answering my question guys 10:15 < uriel> hdon-: see mailing list archives, binary size has been discused to death 10:15 * hdon- is not surprised 10:16 < nsf> hdon-: and the best answer to your question I think is: it has nothing to do with the language itself, it's just a compiler implementation 10:16 < uriel> in short: Go is statically linked, Go includes reflection info and so on, there has been pretty much zero binary-size optimizations 10:16 < hdon-> oh another side question: do people use Go to develop Android apps using NDK? 10:16 < uriel> hdon-: not yet, there seems to be some work on that area that is not quite ready 10:17 < uriel> again, this was mentioned in the list not long ago 10:19 -!- bobody [~alexc@unaffiliated/alexc] has joined #go-nuts 10:19 < vegai> as a silly comparison, hello world compiled by ghc: 917K, and it's not even statically compiled (linked against libc, libdl, librt, libm, libgmp...) 10:20 < nsf> interesting 10:23 -!- sacho [~sacho@87-126-32-193.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:24 * vegai groans at C and its "strings" 10:24 < nsf> what's wrong with C's strings? 10:24 < vegai> a larger program has a function that returns a static string 10:25 < vegai> quite hard to change it without going through everything 10:25 < vegai> but oh well. Sorry for ot 10:26 < vegai> in go, I could just... change it and everything would be fine 10:27 < nsf> a static string? 10:27 < vegai> is that the wrong term... hmm 10:27 < vegai> foo() { return "BAR"; } 10:27 < nsf> ah, I see 10:28 < nsf> and why do you want to change it? 10:28 < vegai> because foo takes an int code that I would like to include in the return string 10:29 < vegai> foo(int code) { char buf[256]; sprintf(buf, "%d", code); return buf; } as a classic wrong way to do it :) 10:30 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@200.146.83.46.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 10:31 < nsf> ah, I see 10:31 < nsf> yes, memory management requires some care 10:31 < vegai> yep 10:31 < nsf> and in GCed language it just works 10:32 -!- sacho [~sacho@87-126-32-193.btc-net.bg] has joined #go-nuts 10:36 -!- benjack [~benjack@bb121-6-49-120.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:38 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-15-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45 -!- ronnyy 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#go-nuts 13:10 -!- B3AP [~mgray@li226-224.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:13 -!- saml [~sam@adfb12c6.cst.lightpath.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:13 < saml> is go better than scala? 13:13 -!- hallas [~hallas@x1-6-30-46-9a-b2-c5-1f.k891.webspeed.dk] has joined #go-nuts 13:13 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 13:14 < exch> that's a rather subjective question 13:14 < sav> is banana better than strawberry? 13:14 < aiju> sav: yes 13:14 < aiju> *saml 13:14 < exch> people in here will prlly all say Yes, while those in a scala chan will say no 13:14 < aiju> of course we are right 13:14 < exch> naturally 13:14 < nsf> I know no Scala 13:14 < saml> i know 13:14 < aiju> scala is just a plot by sun 13:15 < aiju> to enslave humanity 13:15 < exch> scala as a language isn't that bad. The insanely lenghty build times of its compiler made me cringe though 13:15 < nsf> exch: longer than C++? 13:15 < exch> it's a close match 13:16 < nsf> then just throw it away, Go is better than Scala 13:16 < nsf> :) 13:16 < saml> so go will be more mainstream than scala? 13:16 < aiju> we can't tell 13:16 < saml> how can i help to make go more mainstream than scala? 13:17 < exch> I dont think either one will for a while, but thats ok 13:17 < GeertJohan> saml: you could try bombing sun.. but at the other hand I think its better to just use and promote Go :) 13:17 < exch> By jusst using it and telling your coworkers/friends about it. Just show them some of your Go work and consequently convince them that it makes much more sense 13:17 < aiju> bombing sun sounds like i really good idea 13:17 < aiju> *a 13:17 < aiju> i'll supply the bombs 13:18 < aiju> does someone have access to weapon grade plutonium? 13:18 < nsf> saml: write a really awesome Go compiler 13:18 < nsf> which is faster than the current one and produces better code 13:18 < GeertJohan> aiju: my uncle yuri does... 13:18 < GeertJohan> @FBI agent watching this chan: I'm only kidding.. 13:19 < nsf> and generates ELF object files :) 13:19 < GeertJohan> XD 13:19 < GeertJohan> I think Go is to immature to write a real good compiler for it.. 13:19 < saml> doesn't go have compiler already? 6g 13:19 < nsf> and supports shared libraries (even though I hate them) 13:20 < nsf> saml: make a better one 13:20 < saml> okay. done. 13:20 < GeertJohan> cant we write a go compiler in go ? 13:20 < saml> 8g 13:20 < nsf> :) 13:20 < exch> Go has two compilers.. Go's own ones 6/8/5g and a gcc frontend 13:20 < saml> and there's windows port 13:20 -!- Argonneintern [82ca0251@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.202.2.81] has joined #go-nuts 13:20 < Argonneintern> hello scientists! 13:20 < GeertJohan> again: cant we write a go compiler in go :p ? 13:20 < saml> write one on jvm so that it can compete with scala 13:20 < exch> GeertJohan: you could if you wanted to 13:20 < saml> why not.. it's up to you 13:21 < nsf> GeertJohan: why do you need one? 13:21 < saml> i need go ide 13:21 < nsf> saml: try goclipse 13:21 < Namegduf> Hmm. 13:21 < nsf> and gocode 13:21 < saml> do you use ctags with go? does it work? 13:21 < GeertJohan> saml: goclipse :) 13:21 < Namegduf> saml: There's a fork of ctags adding support, and yes, it works well. 13:21 < saml> and go repl 13:21 < GeertJohan> nsf: ah yes,, just for fun I guess :p 13:21 < nsf> saml: https://github.com/nsf/gocode 13:21 < Namegduf> No Go REPL, but the language could support it well. 13:22 < saml> so, let's start with repl first then 13:22 < saml> who wants to take repl project? 13:22 < Namegduf> Oooh, Go bindings to FUSE 13:22 < saml> there are a few.. but no good 13:22 < Namegduf> Nah, I have other stuff to do 13:22 < saml> nsf, nice 13:22 < jessta_> saml: have you seen exp/eval package? 13:23 < nsf> GeertJohan: just for fun, write it in krawl :) 13:23 < saml> nope 13:23 < nsf> GeertJohan: https://github.com/nsf/krawl 13:23 < saml> you program too much 13:23 < nsf> too much? 13:24 < saml> yes. aren't you tired? your eyes? 13:24 < nsf> I consider myself as a lazy programmer 13:24 < nsf> so, nope 13:24 < nsf> :) 13:24 < exch> thre's no such thing as programming too much 13:25 < saml> i see. i get tired 13:25 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25 -!- gtaylor [~gtaylor@99-126-136-139.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:25 < nsf> I can't remember if I said this or no 13:25 < nsf> I've added semicolon insertion in my lang 13:26 < nsf> for some reason that's the first thing that Go people was asking 13:26 < nsf> "semicolons?" 13:26 < nsf> :) 13:26 < nsf> were* 13:26 < nsf> https://github.com/nsf/krawl/blob/master/examples/tetris.krl 13:26 < nsf> :P 13:27 < nsf> btw 13:27 < nsf> what about templates in Go 13:27 < nsf> any new proposals lately? 13:27 * nsf is not following mailing list 13:27 < saml> why comment is black blocks? 13:27 < nsf> saml: it's unicode art 13:27 < nsf> tetris! 13:27 < saml> krl is go? 13:28 < nsf> no 13:28 < nsf> it has Go syntax 13:28 < saml> but semantics is diffrent? 13:28 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 13:28 < nsf> yes, it's unsafe, has pointer arithmetic, has union types and the type system is mostly modeled after C's 13:28 -!- iant [~iant@216.239.45.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:28 < saml> no garbage collection? 13:28 < nsf> no 13:29 < Namegduf> It's basically designed as a very C compatible, Go-inspired language 13:29 < nsf> sort of, yeah 13:29 < Namegduf> So it doesn't need to actually fight the C universe for dominance 13:29 < Namegduf> But can be smoothly used in it. 13:29 < saml> are you getting paid for krawl? 13:29 < Namegduf> That's my understanding, anyway. 13:29 < nsf> no 13:29 < nsf> Namegduf: you're right 13:30 < nsf> it's sort of an experiment, how easily can one fix some of the C problems while staying very compatible with all the environment 13:31 < Argonneintern> is it ok if newbies are using go and ask for go help 13:31 < saml> does it have lambda? 13:31 < nsf> Argonneintern: sure 13:31 < nsf> saml: no 13:31 < saml> does it compile to C? 13:31 < nsf> saml: no, it uses LLVM as a backend 13:31 < Argonneintern> so I'm fairly ok with programming in go itself. But I'm trying to compile a 32 bit binary for another distro i'm packaging it with 13:32 < saml> oh compiler is in C++ 13:32 < nsf> saml: yep 13:32 < aiju> it would have been too easy otherwise 13:32 < nsf> Argonneintern: and your system is? x86_64? are you interested in cross-compiling? 13:32 < Argonneintern> yes 13:32 < Argonneintern> yes to all of that lol 13:32 < aiju> GOARCH=386 ./all.bash 13:32 < aiju> all you need 13:33 < aiju> then you can build it with 8g/8l 13:33 < Argonneintern> so if I set the shell variable in shell it will still work 13:33 < nsf> yes, it will build Go suite for x86 13:33 < Argonneintern> I don't need to do some fancy voodoo editing a file 13:33 < aiju> no 13:33 < aiju> cd yourgorepo ; GOARCH=386 ./all.bash 13:33 < Argonneintern> thanks I'll give it a shot, whill 6g stillw ork? 13:33 < Argonneintern> or do I just set that variable 13:34 < nsf> Argonneintern: it should just work 13:34 < Argonneintern> ok thanks lemme give it a shot 13:35 -!- XenoPhoenix 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< nsf> I meant i.e. 13:43 < nsf> :D 13:43 < Argonneintern> you don't have to explicitly create the new var 13:43 < saml> END DEFINITION 13:43 < nsf> latin.. 13:43 < Argonneintern> you can just data, error := func() 13:44 < nsf> Argonneintern: well, I personally dislike Go's ':=' semantics 13:44 < nsf> I have changed it in my lang slightly, but haven't used it much yet 13:44 < nsf> in my semantics it's a bit explicit 13:44 < nsf> if error was declared before already 13:44 < nsf> you have to write: 13:44 < nsf> data, (error) := func() 13:44 < nsf> it will declare 'date' and will reuse 'error' 13:45 < Argonneintern> so it doesn't do any checking 13:45 < Argonneintern> other then the paren 13:45 < nsf> yes, it's dumb 13:45 < Argonneintern> not really 13:45 < nsf> and I like it 13:45 < nsf> no, I mean my version is dumb 13:45 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@81.92.20.210] has joined #go-nuts 13:45 < Namegduf> Stupid is good 13:45 < Namegduf> Heh. 13:45 < nsf> if it sees an identifier on the LHS, it tried to declare a var 13:45 < Argonneintern> well yours willc ompile that much faster lol 13:45 < nsf> otherwise it uses an existing var or whatever it is 13:46 < nsf> tries* 13:46 < nsf> so, actually things like that are possible: 13:46 < nsf> var s Struct; 13:46 < nsf> s.field1, err := func(); 13:46 < nsf> s.field2, (err) := func(); 13:46 < nsf> even that 13:46 < nsf> doesn't declare anything :D 13:47 < nsf> equivalent of: 13:47 < nsf> s.field2, err = func(); 13:47 < nsf> oops 13:47 < nsf> damn 13:47 < nsf> semicolons 13:47 < Namegduf> You know 13:47 < skelterjohn> anyone know why i might be getting an EOF from trying to read stdin in a test? 13:47 < Namegduf> It might be interesting in your language to steal a functional concept 13:48 < Namegduf> And have = behave as := does 13:48 < Namegduf> And scrap := 13:48 < nsf> Namegduf: hehe, no 13:48 < nsf> only := can declare things, that's important 13:48 < nsf> I think 13:48 < Argonneintern> so I changed GOARCH and did ./all.bash 13:48 < nsf> skelterjohn: are you on mac? 13:49 < skelterjohn> yes 13:49 < Argonneintern> at the end it still said my compiler was 6g 13:49 < nsf> skelterjohn: mac is weird :D 13:49 < skelterjohn> this didn't use to happen 13:49 < nsf> skelterjohn: I have the same problem in termbox 13:49 < skelterjohn> the code i'm running right now behaved differently last time i ran it, which was several months ago 13:49 -!- jyxent [~jyxent@129.128.191.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:50 < nsf> for some reason mac sets EOF sometimes 13:50 < nsf> on stdin 13:50 < nsf> :\ 13:50 < nsf> I don't have a mac 13:50 < nsf> so can't say more 13:50 < nsf> https://github.com/guncha/termbox/commit/2972c7b48f8ea82c80e9711d2c2ab65232b4e7ee 13:51 < nsf> but it makes problems :) 13:51 -!- xyproto [~alexander@77.40.159.131] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 13:51 < Argonneintern> so yeah, I'm not sure if I did something wrong but it won't compile 32bit 13:51 < nsf> Argonneintern: :( 13:51 < Argonneintern> I know, I fail 13:52 < nsf> Argonneintern: you should ask that on the mailing list 13:52 < nsf> no 13:52 < Argonneintern> GOARCH is 386 when I echo it 13:52 < nsf> it's possible that something is wrong 13:52 < skelterjohn> do you export it? 13:52 < Argonneintern> (facepalm) 13:52 < skelterjohn> :) 13:52 < Argonneintern> can you explain exporting real quick 13:52 < aiju> export GOARCH 13:53 < skelterjohn> sub-programs can only see env vars that are exported 13:53 < Argonneintern> ahh 13:53 < skelterjohn> i'm not sure what the point of not exporting a var is 13:53 < aiju> if you write "GOARCH=386 ./all.bash" (one command) 13:53 < aiju> you don't need to export it 13:53 < skelterjohn> that also works 13:53 < aiju> skelterjohn: "performance" 13:53 < Argonneintern> oh I did it in 2 commands 13:53 < Argonneintern> go figure 13:53 < aiju> some shells (like rc) got rid of this entirely 13:53 < skelterjohn> what aiju said exports that for the one command 13:53 < skelterjohn> but forgets after it finishes 13:54 < aiju> i prefer writing it that way, else i might forget i had that variable set 13:55 < Argonneintern> so after running ./all.bash that variable is gone 13:56 < aiju> yeah 13:56 -!- m4dh4tt3r [~Adium@c-98-210-145-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:57 -!- jyxent [~jyxent@129.128.191.96] has joined #go-nuts 13:58 < Argonneintern> ok that definately worked 13:58 < Argonneintern> thanks guys 13:59 < skelterjohn> great! 14:07 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 14:14 -!- mnoel [~mnoel@c-75-65-250-60.hsd1.la.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:15 -!- hargettp_ [~hargettp_@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:15 -!- hargettp_ [~hargettp_@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has left #go-nuts [] 14:16 -!- m4dh4tt3r [~Adium@c-98-210-145-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:22 -!- thakis_ [~thakis@216.239.45.130] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:26 -!- GeertJohan [~geertjoha@s51478c91.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit 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/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007ffb2e133000) 17:39 < aiju> kevlar_work: is it pure go? 17:39 -!- rutkowski [~adrian@078088205001.walbrzych.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev] 17:39 < kevlar_work> aiju, as pure as it gets. 17:39 < aiju> i.e. no cgo in any lib? 17:39 < kevlar_work> correct. 17:39 < aiju> uh humm 17:39 < kevlar_work> though it really looks like net is pulling in cgo when I try the -d flag 17:40 < kevlar_work> 6l: /opt/go/pkg/linux_amd64/net.a(_cgo_import.6): cannot use dynamic imports with -d flag 17:40 < taruti> there really should be an NO_CGO_NET flag 17:40 < aiju> PLEASE_BE_SANE 17:40 < kevlar_work> so net requires libc? 17:41 < kevlar_work> cause I think this system only has uClibc 17:41 < aiju> go shouldn't require libc at all 17:41 < taruti> or you can use an older version of go 17:41 < kevlar_work> taruti, doesn't have the net stuff I need (Interface) 17:42 -!- novabyte [~chris@dns.mullvad.net] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 17:42 < kevlar_work> if this were a full system, I wouldn't need my executable, I'd just freaking use netcat, ifconfig, iptables, and arp. bah. 17:42 < taruti> kevlar_work: it is a one line change in src/pkg/net/Makefile 17:42 < kevlar_work> taruti, orly 17:42 < taruti> kevlar_work: look at how arm is handled 17:43 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:43 -!- jsj__ [~johan@78-70-253-105-no149.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:43 -!- jsj [~johan@78-70-255-20-no149.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44 < kevlar_work> *gasp* 17:44 < kevlar_work> it linked correctly with -d 17:44 < kevlar_work> *starts the copy chain to get it onto the system* 17:45 < kevlar_work> bwahahaha, thanks taruti, you're a life saver. 17:45 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has joined #go-nuts 17:47 -!- alkavan [~alkavan@IGLD-84-229-168-152.inter.net.il] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47 -!- alkavan [~alkavan@IGLD-84-229-168-152.inter.net.il] has joined 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gmilleramilar> nah, just style, I'd have to do it for each type, and that would be a lot of cruft. 19:38 < gmilleramilar> thought there might be a better way. 19:38 < crazy2be> true, but i'm not sure how you would avoid that if you were doinging it in the templates 19:38 < crazy2be> unless you had a literal c-style for loop 19:39 < crazy2be> but that seems worse :P 19:39 < gmilleramilar> I guess a map literal with two entries isn't terrible. 19:40 < gmilleramilar> but I still have boilerplate to create a slice of them from the keys and objects 19:40 < crazy2be> boilerplate sucks 19:40 < crazy2be> i want generics :< 19:41 -!- chomp [~chomp@dap-209-166-184-50.pri.tnt-3.pgh.pa.stargate.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:41 < crazy2be> hmm 19:42 < crazy2be> I have this web framework that i've been using for an interal project for a while 19:42 < crazy2be> and i was hoping to release it open source 19:42 -!- wchicken [~chicken@152-20-181-224.rev.uncw.edu] has joined #go-nuts 19:42 < crazy2be> but i'm not sure how to best do that properly 19:42 < crazy2be> that is, let people update the framework and still have their own changes seperate 19:42 < TheMue> crazy2be: Just do it. 19:42 < crazy2be> or their own modules 19:43 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@109.74.204.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:43 < TheMue> crazy2be: Why should they update the fw? 19:43 < TheMue> crazy2be: You mean updates to you improvements? 19:44 < crazy2be> well I would imagine a fairly common usage case is this (since it's still beta) 19:44 < crazy2be> download, try it out, start writing a module (e.g. a wiki module) 19:44 < TheMue> crazy2be: Just plug the business logic in via interfaces that the users have to implement and add to your fw. 19:45 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has joined #go-nuts 19:45 < crazy2be> find a bug in the framework, and try to fix it (possibly succeeding) 19:45 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45 < gmilleramilar> crazy2be: github does a good job of helping you manage that 19:45 < gmilleramilar> people can create their own forks ("clone me") 19:45 < crazy2be> each of those changes should go to different repositories in all likelyhood 19:46 < gmilleramilar> then they can request tthat you pull changes into your fork 19:46 < crazy2be> like your wiki module probably isn't part of the main framework 19:46 < crazy2be> or shouldn't be 19:46 < TheMue> crazy2be: Platforms like google code let users make comments to your code. 19:46 < crazy2be> and i'm not sure what mechanisms there are to allow them to be seperated into different repositories 19:47 < TheMue> crazy2be: behaviors, plugins 19:47 < crazy2be> e.g. does git allow modules/foo to push to somesite.com and everything else go to someothersite.com? 19:48 < TheMue> crazy2be: Take a look at http://tideland-rwf.googlecode.com or http://tideland-eca.googlecode.com. The frameworks are defined, the behavior can be added implementing interfaces. 19:48 -!- Kami__ [~kami@kamislo-1-pt.tunnel.tserv23.zrh1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:50 -!- Kami_ [~kami@unaffiliated/kami-/x-9078513] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:50 -!- Knirch_ [fatal@debian.as] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:51 -!- Kami_ [~kami@kamislo-1-pt.tunnel.tserv23.zrh1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:51 -!- Kami_ [~kami@unaffiliated/kami-/x-9078513] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 -!- Adys_ [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 -!- Knirch [fatal@debian.as] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 < crazy2be> hmm, that's interesting 19:53 < crazy2be> but not really helpful to my initial dillema :P 19:53 < crazy2be> I didn't want to paste this because it might look like self-promotion, and it's not produciton-ready, but it might help illistrate my issue better: https://github.com/crazy2be/wfdr 19:53 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.114.181.229.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:54 < crazy2be> I have that framework, which right now is basically just my internal code with the specifics stripped out 19:54 < crazy2be> took out branding, names, etc 19:55 < crazy2be> most of the framework/ is in framework, but there are also useful things you would want in the base install in shared/, util/, and even modules/ 19:55 < crazy2be> like if you install a base install you might want some example modules to help you along 19:56 -!- chomp [~chomp@dap-209-166-184-50.pri.tnt-3.pgh.pa.stargate.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56 < crazy2be> so i can't just have the framework be a sub-repository of someone's source tree 19:56 -!- m4dh4tt3r1 [~Adium@75.144.24.109-BusName-walnutcreek.ca.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:57 < crazy2be> I was thinking (or hoping) that there might be a way to seperate modules/news into it's own repository, for example 19:57 < crazy2be> or modules/photos 19:58 < crazy2be> so that the development of those components would be seperate from the development of the framework 19:58 < crazy2be> otherwise you are just getting too monolithic for my liking 19:59 -!- m4dh4tt3r [~Adium@75.144.24.109-BusName-walnutcreek.ca.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01 < crazy2be> ah, git submodules might do that 20:03 -!- Natch| [~natch@c-adcee155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: /(bb|[^b]{2})/] 20:05 -!- kamaji [~kamaji@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust775.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:08 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@66.44.225.80] has joined #go-nuts 20:08 -!- qutron_xyxy [~xxx@178.121.171.65] has joined #go-nuts 20:09 -!- qutron_xyxy [~xxx@178.121.171.65] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14 -!- kamaji [~kamaji@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust775.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:15 -!- scyth [~scyth@220.156.185.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:18 -!- qutron_xyxy [~xxx@178.121.171.65] has joined #go-nuts 20:19 -!- qutron_xyxy [~xxx@178.121.171.65] has quit [Client Quit] 20:29 < str1ngs> crazy2be: I think git submodules is your best bet. as you have found 20:30 -!- zcram [~zcram@78-28-81-44.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #go-nuts 20:30 -!- dju__ [dju@fsf/member/dju] has joined #go-nuts 20:31 -!- xash [~spectrum@ip04.net.thelabmill.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:31 -!- xash [~spectrum@ip04.net.thelabmill.de] has left #go-nuts [] 20:33 -!- message144 [~message14@pool-98-112-179-26.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:34 -!- dju_ [dju@fsf/member/dju] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34 -!- xash [~spectrum@ip04.net.thelabmill.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:37 -!- xash [~spectrum@ip04.net.thelabmill.de] has left #go-nuts [] 20:39 -!- xash [~spectrum@ip04.net.thelabmill.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:47 -!- bortzmeyer [~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:31ac:3b36:5023:b98a] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:54 -!- exch [~blbl@ip34-181-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@201.7.186.67] has quit [Quit: franciscosouza] 20:58 -!- TheMue [~TheMue@p5DDF4B97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: TheMue] 21:01 -!- Fish-- [~Fish@9fans.fr] has joined #go-nuts 21:02 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@201.7.186.67] has joined #go-nuts 21:02 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:06 -!- dlowe [~dlowe@63.107.91.99] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:12 -!- piranha [~piranha@5ED43A0B.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #go-nuts 21:14 -!- rlab_ [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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