--- Log opened Mon Jul 11 00:00:56 2011 00:09 -!- rael_wiki [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/rael-wiki/x-8420294] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0a1/20110709030751]] 00:17 -!- squeese [~squeese@cm-84.209.17.156.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 00:30 -!- trn [~trn@adsl-065-007-181-160.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:30 -!- trn [~trn@adsl-065-007-181-160.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:35 < tildeleb> test 00:35 < exch> test 00:35 < brandini> ack 00:41 < tildeleb> yea, sorry about that 00:46 -!- trn [~trn@adsl-065-007-181-160.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:47 < Tekerson> Is it possible to have exported members in an interface instead of methods? I seem to end up with lots of {sg}etters just because I want to use an interface. 00:49 < nicka> They need to be uppercase don't they? 00:49 < nicka> oh on an interface 00:50 < Tekerson> yeh, on an interface. 00:50 -!- dreadlorde [~dreadlord@c-68-40-138-2.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:51 < nicka> Well I don't think so 00:51 -!- meling [~meling@12.238.254.17] has joined #go-nuts 00:52 < Tekerson> yeah, I didn't think so either. I think it would make sense though? 00:55 -!- trn [~trn@adsl-065-007-181-160.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:57 < jlaffaye> exp/template <3 00:58 -!- fotang [~mike@41.220.69.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:58 < jessta> Tekerson: nope, no reason for it. If you're putting lots of set/get in your interfaces then you should rethink your design 00:59 < jessta> interfaces only describe behaviour, not structure 01:03 < Tekerson> mm.. probably right, I can likely just get rid of most of my interfaces and use the struct pointer directly 01:03 < brandini> heh, so I'm going through the follow up steps for the wiki tutorial and I can't seem to make the [ asdf ] turn into a link :) 01:04 < brandini> regex's never were my strength anyhow, but dang do I feel confused 01:05 < jessta> Tekerson: interfaces in Go should be small, only a few methods that describe a behaviour 01:07 < Tekerson> that's probably true of most languages that have them, they just get misused I guess. 01:08 < Tekerson> not having to explicitly state "this imlpements this interface" should help with that though. 01:09 -!- crazy2be [~crazy2be@d75-152-167-124.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:11 -!- meling_ [~meling@12.238.254.17] has joined #go-nuts 01:12 -!- meling [~meling@12.238.254.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:13 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:13 -!- squeese [~squeese@cm-84.209.17.156.getinternet.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has joined #go-nuts 01:21 -!- vyom [~vyom@c-24-18-47-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22 -!- crazy2be [~crazy2be@d75-152-167-124.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:23 -!- dreadlorde [~dreadlord@c-68-40-138-2.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:25 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@140.109.98.187] has joined #go-nuts 01:34 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@host81-151-115-25.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38 -!- blb [~blb@c-24-11-236-117.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:43 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:43 < mcfuzz> is there a way to create a reflect.Value that is a pointer to the value of another reflect.Value? 01:45 -!- dlowe [~dlowe@c-66-30-116-162.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:45 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@183.47.227.242] has joined #go-nuts 01:47 -!- benjack [~benjack@bb119-74-99-26.singnet.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 01:48 < mcfuzz> i can see that one might say something to the effect of... ptrval = reflect.ValueOf(reflect.PtrTo(v.Type()))... But then to set the value of the pointer it looks like i need to get into some kind of alchemy with the "unsafe" package, which I know little about. 01:48 -!- angasule [~angasule@190.2.33.49] has joined #go-nuts 01:56 -!- blb [~blb@c-24-11-236-117.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:09 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:09 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #go-nuts 02:10 -!- vyom [~vyom@c-24-18-47-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:18 -!- Dr_Who [~tgall_foo@linaro/tgall-foo] has joined #go-nuts 02:19 -!- tgall_foo [~tgall@206.9.88.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:21 -!- dreadlorde [~dreadlord@c-68-40-138-2.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:23 -!- keyist [~keyist@unaffiliated/keyist] has joined #go-nuts 02:26 < skelterjohn> ptrval := reflect.ValueOf(&v) 02:26 < skelterjohn> nothing tricky 02:29 -!- chaos95 [chaos95@mafianode.com] has quit [Quit: more config changes] 02:29 -!- gridaphobe [~gridaphob@cpe-74-68-151-24.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31 < mcfuzz> then ptrval has type *reflect.Value 02:31 < mcfuzz> I wanted something else 02:33 < mcfuzz> if v is a reflect.Value, and v.Type().Name() is "Blah". Then I want ptrval.Type().Name() to be "*Blah". And I want ptrval.Elem() to be a value identical to v 02:33 < mcfuzz> any I think i found it 02:33 < mcfuzz> ptrval := v.Addr() 02:34 < mcfuzz> thanks tho, skelterjohn 02:38 < mcfuzz> I guess that is not how Name works with pointers... 02:38 < mcfuzz> but that was more to illustrate my point 02:44 -!- crazy2be [~crazy2be@d75-152-167-124.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:52 -!- dfr|mac [~dfr|work@ool-182e3fca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:00 -!- Niedar [~bleh@ip68-99-166-222.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:01 -!- coldturnip [~COLDTURNI@111-250-30-140.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:02 -!- Tv__ [~Tv__@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03 -!- JimPeak [~JimPeak@modemcable022.205-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #go-nuts 03:05 -!- Count_Niedar [~bleh@ip68-99-166-222.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05 -!- coldturnip1 [~COLDTURNI@111-250-30-140.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05 -!- frobnitz [~ian@king.bitgnome.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 -!- frobnitz [~ian@king.bitgnome.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:07 < angasule> hmm, I have a select { case op, ok = <-user.Handler: but gofmt complains about the ,ok ? 03:07 -!- JimPeak [~JimPeak@modemcable022.205-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:07 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:25 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:28 < angasule> ah, crap 03:28 < angasule> I have an old gofmt in the PATH :-) 03:30 < mcfuzz> >_< that just happened to me when I updated my macmini 03:30 < mcfuzz> like, "why is goinstall complaining about a standard library???" 03:30 -!- bthomson [~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:31 -!- Dr_Who [~tgall_foo@linaro/tgall-foo] has quit [Quit: ZZZZZzzzzz] 03:31 < angasule> it was pretty obvious after building succeeded :-) 03:32 < mcfuzz> yea, just takes a second to scratch your head and say "wtf?! oh..." 03:37 < angasule> I really can't tell you how much I like gofmt... no more inserting spaces and stuff to make function calls more readable, etc, I can type it in dirty and it'll look right 03:39 < mcfuzz> yea, i'm pretty lazy about it though. I need some git commit hook that calls it automatically. 03:39 -!- bthomson [~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:39 < mcfuzz> a saw a mercurial one, but don't know about a git one 03:40 < mcfuzz> I saw* 03:41 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:41 < angasule> oh, I have a vim command that runs it, so I run it a lot while editing code 03:41 < mcfuzz> oh, could you paste it? 03:41 < angasule> it doubles as a quick syntax checker 03:41 < angasule> sure, one sec 03:42 < mcfuzz> cool, thanks! 03:42 < angasule> nmap <F10> mo:%!gofmt<CR>g`ozz 03:42 < angasule> it's far from ideal, though 03:42 < angasule> it maps F10 in normal mode, 03:42 < mcfuzz> right, that much i can parse ;) 03:43 < angasule> oh, ok, cool, I can explain it all if you need 03:43 < angasule> I really should make it work better when it finds errors 03:43 < mcfuzz> haha, no need for now 03:43 < angasule> I just read the first error, hit undo and fix it, since I pretty much gofmt after every line I write heh 03:43 < angasule> :w 03:43 < angasule> sorry 03:43 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wallerdev] 03:44 < mcfuzz> huh, so it will dupm stuff in the text field? 03:44 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-5-182.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:44 < mcfuzz> by text field i mean main vim editing frame.... 03:44 < angasule> it'll dump your current file to gofmt and replace it with gofmt's output 03:44 < adu> hi all 03:44 < angasule> if there are no errorrs, you get nice code 03:44 < angasule> hi adu 03:45 < angasule> if there are errors, all our text is replaced by the error output (UGLY!) 03:45 < adu> angasule: well, so it code with errors 03:45 < mcfuzz> oh ok 03:45 < adu> s/it/is/ 03:46 < mcfuzz> sounds good enough. i'll just set the options how i like em and give it a whirl. 03:47 -!- crazy2be [~crazy2be@d75-152-167-124.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:47 < mcfuzz> thanks, angasule 03:47 < angasule> np 03:48 -!- chaos95 [chaos95@mafianode.com] has joined #go-nuts 03:48 < angasule> also, the final zz centres you on the current line... there should be a better way of making everything look the same 03:50 < mcfuzz> ahh 03:50 < mcfuzz> seems pretty good 03:52 < mcfuzz> does seem kind of hard to tell what is changing though 03:52 < angasule> well, gofmt seems to be very safe 03:53 < mcfuzz> true, its not really a big deal 03:55 < str1ngs> there is a builtin vim function in $GOROOT/misc/vim 03:55 < str1ngs> :Fmt 03:56 < mcfuzz> haha, oh? 03:56 < str1ngs> does everything 03:57 < str1ngs> nmap <leader>f :Fmt<cr> 03:57 < mcfuzz> \em looking for options 03:57 < mcfuzz> err... 03:57 < str1ngs> let mapleader = "," 03:57 < mcfuzz> i suck at irc 03:58 < str1ngs> I normally symlink them to ~/.vim/?? so they stay updated 03:58 -!- moraes [~moraes@189.103.188.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:58 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:59 < mcfuzz> hmm, how do i change the options of :Fmt? 04:00 < mcfuzz> by hacking their file? 04:01 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:01 < str1ngs> probably just add your flags to line 20 04:01 < str1ngs> I use the defaults myself 04:02 < mcfuzz> i'm somewhat on the fence lately, but i still prefer to expand my tabs 04:02 < mcfuzz> i don't like tabs in the middle of lines, tabbed indents are ok 04:02 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #go-nuts 04:03 < str1ngs> in that case your work flow would be different 04:03 < crazy2be> psh vim 04:04 < crazy2be> :P 04:04 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:04 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has joined #go-nuts 04:05 < mcfuzz> well instead of enforcing my own weird tab/space scheme on myself i just use spaces =\ 04:06 < crazy2be> I use whatever gofmt gives me 04:06 < crazy2be> :P 04:07 < crazy2be> well actually whatever my editor gives me by default 04:07 < crazy2be> which is usually pretty close to gofmt 04:08 < mcfuzz> what is this magical editor that makes you shrug off vim? 04:08 < crazy2be> I personally use kate... I don't really understand the attraction of vim 04:08 < str1ngs> ed 04:09 < crazy2be> if I want to use console or command-based tools, I press F12 for guake terminal 04:09 < crazy2be> F12 again hides it 04:09 < mcfuzz> ahh, kate. I've heard some good stuff 04:09 < crazy2be> so I'll often be typing, wonder where something is defined, F12 grep FunctionName * F12 04:09 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@egress-w.sfo1.yelpcorp.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10 < angasule> I just find normal editors very slow to move around and edit 04:10 < crazy2be> And I can open more files from the commandline by just using the kate command as long as it's running 04:10 < crazy2be> e.g. kate foo.go 04:10 < crazy2be> just opens it in the running instance 04:10 -!- magn3ts [~magn3ts@ip68-103-225-65.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:10 < crazy2be> angasule: To each his own :). I find commandline editors the same way 04:11 < str1ngs> vim can do that 04:11 < angasule> magn3ts: how do you work? :-P 04:11 < mcfuzz> yes, vim can do these things. but there is no real need to argue about it 04:11 < mcfuzz> i think they are both fairly full featured 04:11 < crazy2be> although I would reccomend guake to anyone who uses the console a lot 04:12 < angasule> mcfuzz: very often technical arguments are useful, as long as it's civil 04:12 < magn3ts> angasule, I like this channel, so I won't say the mean things I normally do (not really mean). But, if I had a dime for every person that asked that, I could pelt whoever asked me last :P 04:12 < mcfuzz> yea, i use visor on my mac 04:12 < mcfuzz> very similar to quake 04:12 < angasule> crazy2be: I use yakuake, same thing (also assigned to F12) 04:12 < crazy2be> it's really nice to have a dedicated shortcut to switch in/out of commandline mode 04:12 < crazy2be> angasule: is that the kde version? 04:12 < angasule> magn3ts: :D 04:12 < angasule> crazy2be: yeap 04:12 < crazy2be> yeah I use that on my kde box 04:12 < angasule> crazy2be: not to mention have it in every desktop 04:13 < crazy2be> it's just such a useful window that having a dedicated shortcut is awesome 04:13 < mcfuzz> angasule: text editors are such a matter of opinion though. Its nearly impossible to convert people. I just asked because i was curious 04:13 < angasule> crazy2be: does kate have macros that you can record? 04:13 < crazy2be> personally, I think any text editor will do the job well enough 04:14 < crazy2be> angasule: not that i've used, but it's got extensions and stuff 04:14 < crazy2be> there may be one 04:14 < angasule> crazy2be: notepad? :-) 04:14 < crazy2be> ...as long as it has auto-indent 04:14 < angasule> haha it doesn't have search and replace, I think 04:14 < crazy2be> that is the single biggest advancement in editors 04:15 < zozoR> i think kate is a bit laggy 04:15 < zozoR> wonder why though 04:15 < crazy2be> also like gedit has a modal search and replace dialog box 04:15 < crazy2be> == super annoying 04:15 < angasule> zozoR: you're not running it inside gnome or something like that, right? kate is really fast for me 04:15 < angasule> well, last I tried it 04:15 < crazy2be> zozoR: It's really fast for me in gnome even 04:15 < crazy2be> sometimes a bit slow to start up compared to say vim 04:16 < crazy2be> but really fast for a kde program anyway :P 04:16 < zozoR> i use kde 04:16 < angasule> startup is almost never a problem 04:17 < zozoR> gocode doesnt work for kate, so i use eclipse anyway ^^ 04:17 < zozoR> but sometimes its just easier to open kate 04:17 < crazy2be> angasule: I think it's because i'm on gnome 04:17 < crazy2be> so it has to load the kde libs 04:17 < zozoR> but it feels heavy 04:17 -!- blb [~blb@c-24-11-236-117.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:17 < crazy2be> heavy compared to... eclipse??? 04:18 < crazy2be> ecplise is like a car 04:18 < crazy2be> with no engine 04:18 < crazy2be> but... eh 04:19 < crazy2be> I don't really like IDEs 04:20 < crazy2be> anyway this is rarely a productive discussion 04:20 < crazy2be> :P 04:20 < crazy2be> to each his own 04:21 < crazy2be> anyway night all 04:21 < crazy2be> work tomorrow :/ 04:21 -!- crazy2be [~crazy2be@d75-152-167-124.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:21 < angasule> http://bit.ly/oaauOB <-- eclipse 04:27 -!- cmike_ [~cmike@adsl-99-75-50-144.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:30 < angasule> hi cmike_ 04:30 < cmike_> hey 04:30 < cmike_> anything new tonight? 04:31 < angasule> I'm a putz, so no, nothing new as far as I know :-) 04:32 < cmike_> building anything good? 04:35 < zozoR> cmike = cmake :D 04:35 < cmike_> i dont know why i have a _ on the end of my name 04:35 < cmike_> i registered it without looking so now I have to use it 04:35 < cmike_> dont' feel like registering my nick again 04:40 < angasule> cmike_: coding an irc server, it's making wonders for my knowledge of the language 04:41 -!- smw [~stephen@unaffiliated/smw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:41 < cmike_> thats cool 04:43 < cmike_> i feel the best way to learn something is to do a project 04:43 < cmike_> you learn so much more solving the little problems that come with a project 04:52 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:57 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-179-103.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #go-nuts 05:00 -!- Kahvi [~Kahvi@a91-154-6-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #go-nuts 05:01 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has joined #go-nuts 05:04 -!- dfr|mac [~dfr|work@ool-182e3fca.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- kattle [~jfk@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:09 < adu> indeed 05:11 -!- kergoth [~kergoth@ip24-251-173-232.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:16 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:18 -!- kergoth [~kergoth@ip24-251-173-232.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:29 -!- Kahvi [~Kahvi@a91-154-6-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:43 -!- chadkouse [~chadkouse@rrcs-74-218-87-242.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:44 < chadkouse> anyone awake? I'm a go n00b with a hopefully very simple quesiton. 05:44 < chadkouse> trying to read from a chan 05:44 < chadkouse> err.. receive from a chan 05:44 < chadkouse> and trying to do it non blocking 05:44 < chadkouse> but it seems to block anyway 05:44 < str1ngs> use select if you want not block 05:45 < chadkouse> stuff, more = <-toSend, true 05:45 < chadkouse> I've forked an older project.. is that like an older technique ? 05:45 < Namegduf> It's removed synctax. 05:46 < Namegduf> *syntax 05:46 < chadkouse> Namegduf: I figured as much... thanks I'll go try a select 05:46 < Namegduf> In order to permit stuff, closed = <-toSend 05:46 < chadkouse> str1ngs: thanks 05:47 -!- go^lang [~newblue@119.121.247.35] has joined #go-nuts 05:48 < go^lang> how to check channel closed before send to it? 05:48 < chadkouse> *that was easy* 05:48 < jessta> chadkouse: you might also want to think about why it's non-blocking, it's often better to block if you're only dealing with one channel 05:48 < jessta> go^lang: you can't 05:49 < chadkouse> this is blocking to receive the first thing to do, then trying to receive as much as possible non-blocking before just returning from this function. 05:49 < jessta> go^lang: which is why you shouldn't have more than one sender on a channel 05:49 < chadkouse> jessta: ^^ 05:49 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:50 < go^lang> -_-!!! 05:54 < go^lang> why need replace closed function? 05:54 < go^lang> closed good for my! 05:55 < Namegduf> Because the closed function was wrong, always. 05:55 < angasule> thread safety 05:55 < Namegduf> Using it had a race condition. 05:55 < Namegduf> So it was removed. 05:55 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:55 < Namegduf> You couldn't check closed() then do something, because it could have been closed, then read from by another goroutine since. 05:56 -!- blb [~blb@c-24-11-236-117.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:58 -!- vmil86 [~vmil86@78.57.227.12] has joined #go-nuts 06:00 < go^lang> thanks 06:03 < chadkouse> did fmt.Sprintf change as well? 06:04 < str1ngs> godoc fmt Sprintf and see 06:05 < chadkouse> that's cool didn't know about godoc :) 06:05 < chadkouse> this is day 1 for me.. really almost hour 1 :) 06:07 < chadkouse> str1ngs: it appears it hasn't changed, but this doesn't work right (substitutes the first item in "format" with all of "a"): http://pastebin.com/Rq4EFPtP 06:10 < chadkouse> http://pastebin.com/V1A9FwE9 <-- shows the output 06:10 -!- yogib [~yogib@131.234.59.64] has joined #go-nuts 06:11 < str1ngs> a... 06:11 < str1ngs> cmd := fmt.Sprintf(format, a...) 06:11 < chadkouse> str1ngs: ah ok thanks. 06:12 < str1ngs> that part has changed 06:12 < chadkouse> str1ngs: how could I tell that from the docs ? 06:12 < chadkouse> if you don't mind 06:12 < str1ngs> chadkouse: gofix -h will list most major api changes 06:13 < str1ngs> but not always, so you just kinda fix them as you get hit with them 06:13 -!- sqweek [7c94e951@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.148.233.81] has joined #go-nuts 06:13 < chadkouse> str1ngs: thanks 06:14 < chadkouse> str1ngs: I'm guessing this was not so much a change in sprintf but a change in the language spec 06:15 < chadkouse> I think I found it here: http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Passing_arguments_to_..._parameters 06:15 < str1ngs> yes more a change language spec. 06:16 < chadkouse> thanks for you're help.. 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Ask me how I know this. :) 08:44 < mcfuzz> i dunno. I think it can make some code look cleaner as long as you know what you're doing 08:45 < mcfuzz> haha, yes. I experienced this too 08:45 < mcfuzz> and then I read the language spec 08:45 < aiju> i experienced that too 08:45 < aiju> but i think that was before append was added 08:45 < mcfuzz> ahh yea, i did just start coding Go a few months ago 08:45 < vsmatck> Seems like a good idea to get rid of it. 08:45 < mcfuzz> so it was there when I started 08:46 < aiju> i was like "fuck this sucks, i'm going back to C" 08:48 -!- bpalmer [~user@unaffiliated/bpalmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49 -!- bpalmer [~user@unaffiliated/bpalmer] has joined #go-nuts 08:50 -!- Kahvi [~Kahvi@a91-154-6-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #go-nuts 08:51 -!- fotang [~fotang@41.206.11.4.vgccl.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:52 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-5-182.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 08:53 < mpl> uriel: someone should post a canonical version on how to do that (achieve vector's features with slices) on that wiki with samples of code. so that anyone can be redirected to it. good examples/doc is one of the key to good usage of the lang :) 08:54 < uriel> mpl: I remember somebody posted that to http://www.reddit.com/r/golang/ but can't find it now 08:54 < uriel> found it: http://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/eh3gh/slice_support_and_containervector/ 08:58 < uriel> somebody with write access please add that to the wiki 08:59 < mpl> hmm, it seems even the wiki itself is not linked from golang.org :/ 08:59 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-smplesuofdgqgcjn] has joined #go-nuts 09:01 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1C56C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #go-nuts 09:02 < sqweek> there's a wiki? 09:02 < uriel> yes 09:03 < uriel> kind of anyway 09:03 < uriel> http://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/ 09:04 < mpl> uriel: afaics it's not linked from cat-v either, so no wonder ppl don't know about it. 09:04 < sqweek> cheers :) 09:04 < sqweek> been awhile, how've you both been? 09:05 < mpl> indeed. been busy playing with go. :) how about you? still pianoing? 09:06 < sqweek> yep, studying hard this year 09:06 < aiju> does someone know whether appengine supports async communication between client and server part yet? 09:06 < mpl> sqweek: cool. do you intend to come to iwp9 (madrid) this year? 09:07 < uriel> added a link to http://go-lang.cat-v.org 09:07 < mpl> uriel: well done, thx. 09:08 < sqweek> mpl: nope 09:08 -!- fotang [~fotang@41.206.11.4.vgccl.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09 -!- fotang [~fotang@41.206.11.7.vgccl.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:09 < mpl> sqweek: too bad. 09:10 < sqweek> anyway, i've been trying to build go-sdl on windows but cgo gives me a bunch of errors like sdl.go:33: error: enumerator value for `__cgo_enum__0' not integer constant 09:12 < aiju> hahhahae 09:12 < aiju> canonical uses Go? 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10:59 < jnwhiteh> =) 10:59 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@140.109.98.187] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:02 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:06 -!- ijknacho [~goofy@71.123.134.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:07 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #go-nuts 11:15 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:16 -!- tncardoso [~thiagon@150.164.2.20] has joined #go-nuts 11:19 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has joined #go-nuts 11:20 -!- meling_ [~meling@12.238.254.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #go-nuts 11:23 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has joined #go-nuts 11:47 < vikstrom> I think it's basically down to flexibility vs predictability and i'd choose predictability any day... 11:47 < aiju> 12:55 * jnwhiteh sighs at the "Go ignores all academic research" threads 11:48 < aiju> what do they miss? 11:48 < aiju> has academic research shown that java is the best and fastest language ever? 11:48 < aiju> i wouldn't be surprised if it did 11:49 < vikstrom> nah, i think they want to describe all languages as subsets of lisp 11:49 < vikstrom> :-) 11:49 < aiju> haha 11:49 < aiju> of course they want 11:49 -!- Zoopee [alsbergt@zoopee.org] has joined #go-nuts 11:50 < jnwhiteh> aiju: http://acooke.org/cute/GoRocksHow0.html is the one I'm referring to 11:50 < jnwhiteh> mainly 11:51 < vikstrom> i read it 11:51 < Namegduf> "I don't know of a good explanation" 11:51 < Namegduf> I can think of several. 11:51 < jnwhiteh> he makes some points.. but its just a religious argument 11:51 < vikstrom> yes 11:52 < aiju> fuck 11:52 < Namegduf> Off the top of my head: Design in basically every current language is OO, so Go is a mindscrew to them 11:52 < aiju> what the fuck is hetalking about 11:52 < vikstrom> the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if it get the job done and if it does it well 11:52 < aiju> First chapter, you're going to be recursing. Sure, when you start, it's a 11:52 < aiju> little confusing. But then it "clicks" and you see how it can help you make 11:52 < aiju> programs cleaner. 11:52 < Namegduf> By current, I mean, current and high level. 11:52 < aiju> big disagree, to start 11:52 < jnwhiteh> I don't know but in every single post on reddit about go, someone shows up and talks about how "The language designers have ignored decades of academic research" 11:52 < aiju> Functional programming languages have hammered 11:52 < aiju> out all the tiny details. It's easy to get this right. It's easy to 11:52 < aiju> implement. Yet Go fucked it up. 11:52 < aiju> good lord 11:53 < jnwhiteh> sorry I've ruined your day =) 11:53 < aiju> You can't use recursion much anyway, because Go 11:53 < aiju> doesn't guarantee efficient tail calls. Which, again, is just dumb. There 11:53 < aiju> would have been no great implementation cost - so simple ignorance means that 11:53 < aiju> you can't use Go to write code in a certain style. 11:53 < aiju> HAHAHAHAHA 11:53 < aiju> now that's a fucking dumb statement 11:53 < jnwhiteh> wait, you mean in order to call a function recursively I have to name it? say it ain't so! 11:53 < aiju> he obviously has not even thought about how compiled code works 11:53 < Namegduf> No 11:53 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@114-45-0-78.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 11:54 < Namegduf> He's saying there's no reason to not optimise tail calls but ignorance 11:54 < jnwhiteh> in a functional programming language, I agree 11:54 < aiju> there is no efficient way to do tail call optimisation in a general manner with the Linux or the Go calling convention 11:54 < jnwhiteh> but that's not Go 11:54 < aiju> period 11:54 < Namegduf> Which 1) Betrays a startling lack of imagination 2) Is fairly stupid 3) Is fairly insulting 11:54 < vikstrom> aiju: why would that be? 11:54 < Namegduf> There's also no reason TO do it. 11:55 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-58-80.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: I am a manual virus, please copy me to your quit message.] 11:55 < Namegduf> Because it's equivalent to code written just a little differently. 11:55 < aiju> vikstrom: you'd have to do lots of fornication 11:55 < Namegduf> Also Go isn't about magic. 11:55 < Namegduf> And it would be magic. 11:55 < vikstrom> aiju: you can in other compiled langs, so why not in go? 11:55 < aiju> vikstrom: which language? 11:55 < aiju> note that gcc 11:55 < vikstrom> erlnag for instance 11:55 < vikstrom> which compiles to bitcode 11:55 < aiju> which has every optimization humanly possible 11:56 < vikstrom> *erlang 11:56 < Namegduf> As for the general case of those people, I think they feel that the movement to massive feature bloated leviathans has academic proof that it's awesome 11:56 < aiju> does not tail-call-optimize in the general case 11:56 < Namegduf> To make them feel good about it 11:57 < Namegduf> There's also the functional crowd who really needs to fuck off. No, Go doesn't have everything to make it awesome for your style. It's not supposed to. Compare it against languages people actually use, thank you. 11:57 < Namegduf> They're welcome to think functional is better, but there's no reason to complain about Go in paritcular. 11:57 < aiju> people like functional style because it's more complex 11:57 < aiju> i can think of no other explanation 11:58 < aiju> it's slower, harder to read and more bugprone 11:58 < vikstrom> i love functional programming. I also love Go. I don't see why i can't have both. 11:58 < vikstrom> aiju: its actually less bugprone 11:58 < Namegduf> You can, but if you want both at once you are going to have to face that Go isn't really optimised around that and doesn't have all the fancy innovations for functional languages 11:58 < vikstrom> aiju: slower, probably 11:58 < aiju> not in my experience 11:59 < Namegduf> It's not a weakness, it's just not a design goal, I think 11:59 < vikstrom> aiju: harder to read, if you don't understand the language, of course 11:59 -!- grai [~grai@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 11:59 < Namegduf> Lesse. 11:59 < vikstrom> its down to taste 11:59 < Namegduf> This author doesn't know what goroutines are. 11:59 < Namegduf> He obviously doesn't. 11:59 < Namegduf> He says they're "real threads, not coroutines" 11:59 < aiju> it's just like the microkernel crowd 12:00 < aiju> a bunch of guys who have read too many papers 12:00 < vikstrom> Namegduf: they are if you use the gcc frontend, maybe thats all he have tried 12:01 < Namegduf> vikstrom: Then he's a moron for using the crippled version of goroutines and assuming they're normal 12:01 < vikstrom> Namegduf: that might be it 12:03 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.19.21.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04 < aiju> he thinks recursion is the best thing ever and no one can seriously doubt it 12:04 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.19.21.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 12:04 < aiju> i think that's enough to ignore the rest 12:05 < vikstrom> recursion is nice, but it has its limits, you dont want to use recursion when writing an emulator for instance 12:05 < aiju> i basically recurse only when i have a recursive datastructure to begin with 12:05 < vikstrom> an excellent use-case 12:06 < aiju> making sense out of cleverly recursing code is horribly fu 12:06 < aiju> +n 12:06 < vikstrom> i never use recursion in go 12:06 < aiju> it's just like goto 12:07 < vikstrom> well, i'm used to think in recursion, so i seldom have problems with it, but of course, a loop is simpler 12:07 < vikstrom> yup, goto is horrible, if used wrongly 12:08 < vikstrom> its necessary though for some performance critical use-cases though 12:08 -!- squeese [~squeese@cm-84.209.17.156.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 12:08 < vikstrom> -1 though 12:08 < aiju> that's one thing the COBOL guys got right 12:08 -!- gnuvince|work [8e544424@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.84.68.36] has joined #go-nuts 12:08 < aiju> your uber-clever general features turn code into a horrible mess 12:08 < vikstrom> i think all minimalistic languages have that problem 12:10 < jnwhiteh> what do you think of the first response to his criticism? 12:10 < jnwhiteh> is the micro/macro language distinction reasonable or useful? 12:10 < Namegduf> "interesting" 12:11 < vikstrom> i think it is a good reply 12:11 < Namegduf> I think I largely agree. 12:12 < vikstrom> time for lunch.. 12:13 < aiju> the micro/macro distinction has the same problems as with kernels 12:13 < jnwhiteh> *nod* 12:13 < jnwhiteh> I agree, it seemed a bit odd, but at least it helped him get some points across. 12:13 < aiju> everything real is somewhere in between 12:15 -!- nicka1 [~lerp@142.176.0.21] has joined #go-nuts 12:15 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@mailgate.ips-international.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:15 < Namegduf> Or, alternatively, everything real is macro 12:16 < Namegduf> And everything theory is micro 12:16 < aiju> not really 12:16 < aiju> COBOL is closest to a macro language 12:17 < aiju> being able to define functions is a step into the micro direction 12:21 < skelterjohn> wth is a micro/macro language? 12:21 < jnwhiteh> read the post, he explains how he's definining them 12:22 * Namegduf sends him a correction on the goroutine thing, with an explanation. A long one. 12:22 < Namegduf> But polite one! 12:23 < Namegduf> He admits it's better than every non-functional language ever 12:23 < Namegduf> So that's something 12:33 -!- sniper506th [~sniper506@rrcs-70-61-192-18.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:34 -!- angasule [~angasule@190.2.33.49] has joined #go-nuts 12:38 -!- chanwit [~chanwit@223.207.162.250] has joined #go-nuts 12:42 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-20-50.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 12:43 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:43 < vikstrom> Namegduf: Well, he's obviously a functional programmer and colored by it 12:44 < vikstrom> I'm a functional programmer myself and use it almost on a daily basis, but i wouldn't use it as a systems languages 12:45 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:45 -!- dlowe [~dlowe@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:46 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-smplesuofdgqgcjn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:48 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:53 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-jihnvlhksdsigrar] has joined #go-nuts 13:02 -!- molto_alfredo [~molto_alf@142.176.0.21] has joined #go-nuts 13:05 -!- JimPeak [~JimPeak@modemcable213.208-160-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #go-nuts 13:05 -!- JimPeak [~JimPeak@modemcable213.208-160-184.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 13:06 -!- jbooth1 [~jay@209.249.216.2] has joined #go-nuts 13:07 -!- gridaphobe [~gridaphob@cpe-74-68-151-24.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:16 -!- vmil86 [~vmil86@78.57.227.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:17 < uriel> Namegduf: nice correction 13:17 < uriel> very nice 13:19 < vikstrom> agreed 13:20 < mpl> what's the post url already? 13:20 -!- bortzmeyer [~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr] has left #go-nuts [] 13:20 -!- pharris [~Adium@rhgw.opentext.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:22 -!- ArgonneIntern [~gauge@mcswl149.mcs.anl.gov] has joined #go-nuts 13:22 < Namegduf> Thanks. 13:22 < vikstrom> mpl: http://www.acooke.org/cute/GoRocksHow0.html 13:23 < mpl> vikstrom: thx 13:25 -!- Dr_Who [~tgall_foo@linaro/tgall-foo] has joined #go-nuts 13:25 -!- dropdriv1 [~dropdrive@cpe-72-227-159-70.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:26 -!- dropdrive [~dropdrive@cpe-72-227-159-70.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:26 -!- vyom [~vyom@c-24-18-47-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:27 < jnwhiteh> very nice response 13:29 -!- vmil86 [~vmil86@78.57.227.12] has joined #go-nuts 13:30 < exch> Still discussing that one? 13:30 -!- vyom [~vyom@c-24-18-47-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:37 -!- Varriount [~Varriount@67.222.157.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38 -!- telexicon [~telexicon@unaffiliated/chowmeined] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:38 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@114-45-0-78.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:39 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@114-45-0-78.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:41 < vikstrom> think it died out a few moments back 13:41 -!- vyom [~vyom@c-24-18-47-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:41 -!- bugQ [~bug@c-71-195-207-34.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:42 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-24-0-2-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 13:42 -!- jrr [~jrr@c-98-253-78-18.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:43 -!- jrr [~jrr@c-98-253-78-18.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:46 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@pool-74-101-133-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:47 -!- kergoth_ [~kergoth@ip24-251-173-232.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:48 -!- Varriount [~Varriount@67.222.157.172] has joined #go-nuts 13:51 -!- pjacobs [~pjacobs@75-27-133-72.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:51 -!- jrr [~jrr@c-98-253-78-18.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:53 -!- jrr [~jrr@c-98-253-78-18.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:54 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #go-nuts 13:54 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:57 -!- dfr|mac [~dfr|work@ool-182e3fca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:58 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has joined #go-nuts 14:00 -!- fotang [~fotang@41.206.11.11.vgccl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:06 -!- zaero [~eclark@servo.m.signedint.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:07 -!- angasule [~angasule@190.2.33.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:17 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has joined #go-nuts 14:25 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 14:28 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-jihnvlhksdsigrar] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:30 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@114-45-0-78.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:30 -!- go^lang [~newblue@119.121.247.35] has joined #go-nuts 14:33 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@12.236.237.2] has joined #go-nuts 14:33 < go^lang> how to import the third party pacakage in google app engine? like: web.go twister? 14:34 < exch> go^lang: You need to copy its source into a subdirectory of your appengine project 14:34 < exch> Once your code is compiled on the AE servers, they won't be able to resolkve the packages from an external repository, so it has to be local to your project 14:35 < exch> s/resolkve/resolve/ 14:35 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-qkmqitavwukcwwih] has joined #go-nuts 14:37 < go^lang> how to let web.go work in GAE? 14:40 < skelterjohn> what about exch's reply was insufficient? 14:41 < skelterjohn> you need to copy the web.go source into your project 14:42 < exch> go^lang: read this and the stuff it links to. It should explain everything you need to know: http://blog.golang.org/2011/05/go-and-google-app-engine.html 14:46 -!- fotang [~fotang@41.206.11.40.vgccl.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:47 < go^lang> I got a exception:unable to start _go_app 14:51 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@201.7.186.67] has joined #go-nuts 14:53 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:53 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 14:53 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has joined #go-nuts 14:56 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 14:58 -!- vmil86 [~vmil86@78.57.227.12] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58 -!- bugQ [~bug@c-71-195-207-34.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:59 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:223:32ff:feb1:9dfc] has joined #go-nuts 15:01 -!- sacho [~sacho@87.126.39.0] has joined #go-nuts 15:01 -!- vmil86 [~vmil86@78.57.227.12] has joined #go-nuts 15:16 -!- yogib [~yogib@131.234.59.64] has quit [Quit: yogib] 15:16 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@173-8-182-114-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:17 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 15:19 -!- napsy [~luka@193.2.66.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:19 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1C56C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #go-nuts 15:20 -!- jsj [~johan@78-70-253-105-no149.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21 -!- grai [~grai@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@173-8-182-114-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32 -!- tgall_foo [~tgall@206.9.88.154] has joined #go-nuts 15:33 -!- noodles775 [~michael@canonical/launchpad/noodles775] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:34 -!- yogib [~yogib@dslb-178-009-070-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:35 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:35 -!- kaiser [~kaiser@dslb-178-009-070-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:36 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1C56C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 -!- sacho [~sacho@87.126.39.0] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:36 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 15:38 -!- Guest62590 [~kaiser@dslb-178-009-070-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:39 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 15:41 -!- zaero [~eclark@servo.m.signedint.com] has joined #go-nuts 15:41 -!- squeese [~squeese@cm-84.209.17.156.getinternet.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 -!- jimbaker [~jbaker@canonical/jimbaker] has joined #go-nuts 15:42 -!- napsy [~luka@88.200.96.18] has joined #go-nuts 15:47 -!- moraes [~moraes@189.103.188.201] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:50 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@mailgate.ips-international.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50 < ArgonneIntern> not so much a problem, but man do I really like the changes to exec 15:53 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 < kevlar_work> ArgonneIntern, lol, indeed. 15:54 < kevlar_work> I still think we could find a nicer way to interact with a running app; exec works great for a run-and-wait scenario. 15:54 < ArgonneIntern> yea that is what Imostly use it for 15:55 < ArgonneIntern> I just removed all my pipes and replaced them with .Output 15:55 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:55 < ArgonneIntern> soooo nice 15:59 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@egress-w.sfo1.yelpcorp.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:00 < ArgonneIntern> question about go routines. Since they are not threads, this section of code won't actually help me will it. http://www.pastie.org/2197388 I should just execute the commands in serial as that's probably what's happening anyways. 16:01 < exch> They will be run in parallel. Wether it makes a lot of difference depends on how long each command runs, I guess 16:01 < ArgonneIntern> not if GOMAXPROCS isn't greater than 1 though right 16:01 -!- go^lang [~newblue@119.121.247.35] has quit [Quit: 暂离] 16:02 < exch> The schedular will still try to give each routine a reasonable share of time, but what that will eventually result in, one can only guess 16:02 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 16:02 -!- tav [~tav@92.20.74.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:02 -!- dfr|mac [~dfr|work@ool-182e3fca.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 < ArgonneIntern> well I only ask because it was said before, and I believe it cause I've tested it, that if a routine doesn't block, like those little guys, they never give up the CPU. 16:03 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@egress-w.sfo1.yelpcorp.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 < ArgonneIntern> so those would all execute in serial anyways, just with the extra overhead of go routines 16:03 < ArgonneIntern> unless I'm mistaken and don't understand go routines, which is very likely 16:04 < exch> If they never yield, then it's likely they will run as if done in serial 16:04 < nicka> That is my understanding of go routines 16:04 < pharris> exec.Run blocks ("…and waits for it to complete."), so they should all run in parallel. 16:04 < ArgonneIntern> ohhh good point 16:05 < ArgonneIntern> they do take approx half a second to finish so the routines should actually help there 16:05 < ArgonneIntern> thanks 16:05 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 16:05 < ArgonneIntern> I didn't even think about run blocking lol 16:05 < pharris> I don't see you waiting for the goroutines in that snippet, so it's possible your main routine will starve out all those goroutines. I assume you will flesh this out a bit more before using it. 16:06 -!- Fish [~Fish@tru67-1-82-229-53-64.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:06 < ArgonneIntern> those go routines are the last thing executed in another go routine 16:07 < ArgonneIntern> I don't technically need to wait for the commands to finish 16:07 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 16:07 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:07 -!- muke [~doobies@75-59-237-124.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:08 -!- muke [~doobies@75-59-237-124.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:11 -!- cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-182-183.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #go-nuts 16:13 -!- Queue29 [~Queue29@egress-w.sfo1.yelpcorp.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:17 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 16:19 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:23 -!- iant [~iant@216.239.45.130] has joined #go-nuts 16:23 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 16:25 < kevlar_work> the "Golang inconsistencies" thread officially hit 100 posts. Sigh. 16:27 < exch> Wht a waste of bandwidth eh? 16:30 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@host86-185-54-237.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:37 -!- pyrhho [~pyrhho@host-92-27-75-48.static.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: pyrhho] 16:38 -!- tavis_rain [~tavisb@24-104-129.146.hfc.mediarain.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:45 -!- telexicon [~telexicon@unaffiliated/chowmeined] has joined #go-nuts 16:48 < kevlar_work> It's degenerated into people typing just to watch themselves type. 16:49 < kevlar_work> I don't even want to know how many man-hours are wasted by every new post on that thread. 16:49 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 16:50 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 16:51 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@h-170-226.a212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #go-nuts 16:58 -!- gmilleramilar 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