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07:18 < raylu> so i'm using a channel of mysql clients as a pool of
connections.
07:18 < raylu> is there a nicer way of writing this defer statement?
07:18 < raylu> db := <-dbPool
07:18 < raylu> defer func () {dbPool <- db}()
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07:23 < vsmatck> Looks as good as it can I think.  One option is that you
could hide that away in a function so you don't have to do that all throughout
your application.  You don't want the situation where someone forgets that defer
statement.
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07:31 < raylu> if i put it in a function, the defer would run immediately,
wouldn't it?
07:31 < raylu> i don't see why i can't write: defer dbPool <- db
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07:35 < vsmatck> I was thinking about a function that performs the query and
returns a result.  I'm not sure if that fits in to your design.
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07:36 < raylu> ah.  i was hoping to write it that way bug
07:36 < raylu> *but a lot of my things require a transaction because they
run multiple queries
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07:36 < |Craig|> raylu: how about a function that takes a function that
takes db as a paramater, and get db, calls the passed function with it, and then
returns db
07:37 < |Craig|> and by returns, I mean puts it back in the pool
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07:37 < raylu> hm, interesting.  could work
07:37 < raylu> *would work
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07:39 < |Craig|> passing functions is a solution to a lot of my problems :)
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07:41 < vsmatck> I wish there was something like boost::bind for go.  I'm
messing with reflect function calls.
07:42 < vsmatck> Like "func f(myFunc interface{}, args ...interface{})".
Then I use reflect to make the function calls with those arguments.
07:43 < vsmatck> Not type safe.
07:44 < vsmatck> It seems ok to do pass a function object with no
parameters, then use closures for flexibility.  Until you want to do it in a loop.
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08:57 < vsmatck> nvm.  I had misconception about how closures operated in a
loop.  Just wasted a couple hours.  :-/
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09:02 < raylu> so i want an event/listener system but i have multiple
listners for each event and some of my listeners might not stick around
09:02 < raylu> i'm about to use a channel of channels to represent all the
listeners (where each listener is a channel) but how do i handle the case where i
have more listeners than the buffer size of the channel?
09:04 < fluffle> raylu: seen the event handler thing I wrote for goirc?  :)
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09:06 < jnwhiteh> fluffle: any reason you use list.List instead of a slice?
09:06 < raylu> fluffle: yes, even fixed a bug in it :P
09:07 < fluffle> jnwhiteh: for easy removal of a single element from an
arbitrary point in the list
09:07 < jnwhiteh> makes sense =)
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09:08 < fluffle> raylu: ooh?  wouldn't surprise me, i did kinda just hack it
up in an afternoon
09:08 * raylu tries to remember why he's not using that
09:08 < jnwhiteh> I need to embed lua in goirc so I can convert lua_bot over
09:09 < fluffle> if it doesn't do what you need drop me a patch
09:09 < jnwhiteh> *nod* its added to my TODO list
09:09 < fluffle> lua support would be awesome :)
09:10 < jnwhiteh> it shouldn't be hard
09:10 < jnwhiteh> and then I'd be able to drop in the modules I already have
written in Lua
09:10 < jnwhiteh> just need to expose the Conn api in a smart way
09:10 < fluffle> urg, yes
09:10 < jnwhiteh> lua_bot is in something like 30 channels
09:10 < fluffle> i've been considering wrapping it in an interface,
09:10 < jnwhiteh> and lua networking for long running stuff can be..
difficult =)
09:11 < jnwhiteh> meh, should be fine
09:11 < fluffle> but I don't really have anough software design skill to get
the abstraction correct with confidence
09:11 * fluffle <-- sysadmin :)
09:11 < jnwhiteh> =)
09:12 < raylu> hm...  the list.List isn't thread-safe, is it?
09:12 < jnwhiteh> no
09:13 < jnwhiteh> thats why its protected by a mutex in fluffle's code
09:15 < bmizerany> has anyone here gotten their Go to run on Heroku
09:15 < bmizerany> ?
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09:48 < wrtp> raylu: you might want to take a look at my "values" package.
it's not really an event system because events can be dropped (it's for keeping
track of varying values rather than streams of events), but it might still be
useful.
09:48 < raylu> link?
09:48 < wrtp> raylu: rog-go.googlecode.com/hg/values
09:49 < wrtp> (goinstall it, then use godoc)
09:50 < wrtp> NewValue is the principal function, along with the Value
interface
09:52 < wrtp> originally i used channels as part of the API but i changed it
to use sync.Cond because the implementation became simpler
09:52 < wrtp> s/API/implementation/
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10:30 < zozoR> skelterjohn, are you here?
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11:03 < Electro^> Could someone take a look at this unmarshalling here and
please tell me what i'm doing/thinking wrong?  http://pastebin.com/i9qYDJNE
11:03 < Electro^> I've been trying some different approaches like iterating
over the map and such, but nothing works asfar as i can manage
11:05 < wrtp> Electro^: the compiler is telling you the truth
11:05 < wrtp> what's the type of m2?
11:05 < Electro^> according to printf map[string]interface{}, and according
to error its map[interface{}]interface{}
11:06 < wrtp> no, m2 is m1["Image"], so the type of m2 is the element type
of m1
11:06 < wrtp> which is...  ?
11:06 < Electro^> interface{} ?
11:07 < wrtp> yup
11:07 < wrtp> that's its static type
11:07 < wrtp> printf prints the dynamic type
11:08 < wrtp> but to index it, you need to convert it to an indexable type
11:08 < wrtp> e.g.  m2 := m1["Image"].(map[interface{}]interface{})
11:09 < wrtp> but that will crash if the json is malformed (for instance if
there was an atom rather than an object at that position)
11:09 < wrtp> so you probably want to be graceful, e.g.
11:09 < wrtp> m2, ok := m1["Image"].(map[interface{}]interface{})
11:09 < wrtp> if !ok {
11:09 < wrtp>
11:09 < wrtp> return os.NewError ("wrong type for Image")
11:09 < wrtp> }
11:10 < Electro^> hmm yes i tried that, and it crashed just like you
suggested:
11:10 < Electro^> panic serving 10.46.1.131:33653: interface conversion:
interface is map[string] interface { }, not map[interface { }] interface { }
11:10 < wrtp> Electro^: BTW you should check the return value of
json.Unmarshal and return early from Unmarshal if it returns an error
11:11 < wrtp> well, that's its type
11:11 < wrtp> so cast to that
11:11 < wrtp> e.g m2, ok := m1["Image"].(map[string]interface{})
11:12 < wrtp> Electro^: you could always try reading the docs, which say:
"To unmarshal a JSON value into a nil interface value, the type stored in the
interface value is one of: [...] map[string]interface{}, for JSON objects"
11:12 < Electro^> wrtp: yeah it works now from what i
11:12 < Electro^> ive seen
11:13 < Electro^> and yes, i've been going over the docs a while, and been
trying type conversion aswell.  must have forgotten something
11:13 < Electro^> i thank you for the expertly and friendly help
11:13 < wrtp> no probs
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11:25 < zozoR> anyone with some experience with go-gb?
11:28 < skelterjohn> a little
11:29 < skelterjohn> what's up?
11:32 < ptrb> Can someone point me to something describing the layout of
arrays and slices in memory?
11:32 < skelterjohn> it's a struct with three members - a pointer to the raw
data, a length and a capacit
11:32 < skelterjohn> y
11:33 < skelterjohn> arrays are the same layout as in C
11:33 < ptrb> and the array is literally just the raw data, no capacity?
11:33 < skelterjohn> but the compiler already knows the length, so no null
terminators
11:33 < skelterjohn> correct
11:33 < ptrb> so the capacity is maintained by the compiler
11:34 < skelterjohn> if you have a variable of type array, the length is
known at compile time
11:34 < ptrb> right.  thanks.
11:34 < skelterjohn> if you have an array backing a slice, the slice knows
11:36 < wrtp> ptrb: arrays are rarely used
11:36 < ptrb> Understood.
11:36 < wrtp> ptrb: but are useful when, for instance, you want to embed
some data directly in a struct with no extra allocation
11:37 < zozoR> oh, skelterjohn is back :D
11:37 < zozoR> wuhu
11:37 < zozoR> i cant get go-gb working
11:38 < zozoR> the first thing is that i get a assignment count mismatch 2 =
1
11:39 < zozoR> because you use the t, err = t.Parse(`TEXT`)
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11:39 < zozoR> three places in genmake.go and gentest.go
11:39 < aiju> haha
11:39 < aiju> i can imagine how Go development is like
11:39 < aiju> "okay, what function do we change today?"
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11:40 < zozoR> is an easy fix, but when i try to use gb i get an error:
panic: template: MakeCmd:30: unexpected unrecognized character in action: U+0024
'$' in if
11:40 < zozoR> aiju, :D
11:40 < ptrb> so, x := []int{1,2,3} works, and declares/allocates/fills a
slice.  Is it creating a backing array in the background?
11:40 < skelterjohn> zozoR: your go dist doesn't match the one you're using
with gb
11:40 < skelterjohn> if you're using release, check out the release branch
(only available on the git version)
11:40 < aiju> i know why the gophers are so important, they are the only
thing about go which doesn't change with every release -- kfx
11:41 < zozoR> i use the r59
11:41 < skelterjohn> if you're using weekly, use the tip from either
googlecode or github
11:41 < skelterjohn> that's release
11:41 < skelterjohn> goinstall github.com/skelterjohn/go-gb/gb
11:41 < skelterjohn> that will be a release branch version of gb
11:42 < zozoR> it doesnt work if i git clone?
11:42 < skelterjohn> you can do that
11:42 < skelterjohn> and then git checkout release
11:42 < zozoR> well that doesnt work xD
11:42 < skelterjohn> ptrb: yes
11:42 < zozoR> oh
11:42 < zozoR> ill try the goinstall thing then
11:42 < skelterjohn> goinstall automatically tries for a release branch
11:42 < ptrb> skelterjohn: thx.
11:43 < skelterjohn> zozoR: you can also download the r59 version from the
googlecode project's download page
11:43 < skelterjohn> i'm going for a run - be back in 20 if you have more qs
11:43 < zozoR> it works
11:43 < zozoR> with the goinstall github.com...
11:43 < zozoR> thanks ^^
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12:31 < skelterjohn> zozoR: cool, np
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12:56 < zozoR> gb is awesome
12:56 < jnwhiteh> true!
12:56 < zozoR> now i dont need to write makefiles anymore
12:56 < jnwhiteh> GOPATH=$PWD goinstall foo
12:56 < jnwhiteh> also works nicely
12:57 < jnwhiteh> but not for everything
12:57 < aiju> there is a $PWD variable?  lol
12:57 < aiju> haha, really
12:57 < zozoR> i just thought that was some sort of phishing :D
12:58 < zozoR> but am I the only one who have wondered why the linker and
the compiler are seperated
12:58 < jnwhiteh> the compiler compiles, the linker links
12:58 < jnwhiteh> seems reasonable to m
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12:59 < zozoR> but can you do anything except link with the linker with
file.8?
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12:59 < jnwhiteh> a linker can combine multiple .8s
12:59 < jnwhiteh> afaik
13:00 < aiju> zozoR: you can also delete it
13:00 < aiju> or move it to a different folder
13:00 < jnwhiteh> or, controversially, rename it.
13:00 < exch> Isn't that wha gopack is for?  (combining multiple .8's?)
13:00 < aiju> the linker does several things
13:00 < zozoR> when do you wanna do that?
13:00 < jnwhiteh> exch: I'm not sure, that's why I said afaik
13:00 < aiju> assembling, optimizing, linking, creating the executable
13:00 < jnwhiteh> btu I think you're correct
13:00 < jnwhiteh> now that you mention it
13:01 < aiju> 14:58 < zozoR> but am I the only one who have wondered
why the linker and the compiler are seperated
13:01 < aiju> really?
13:01 < aiju> they are two entirely different program
13:01 < aiju> +s
13:01 < zozoR> gcc both compiles and links?
13:01 < aiju> no
13:01 < aiju> gcc is a frontend
13:01 < jnwhiteh> gcc calls ld to link
13:01 < aiju> gcc invokes the compiler also named gcc
13:01 < zozoR> -.-
13:01 < aiju> and then calls ld to link
13:01 < zozoR> why does go not have such frontend?
13:01 < aiju> what for?
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13:02 < aiju> you can write a shell script
13:02 < aiju> i have a run shellscript which takes as an arguments some
files, links and runs them
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13:02 < f2f> go does have such a frontend
13:02 < zozoR> doesnt matter when i have gb
13:02 < f2f> in the gcc compiler suite :)
13:02 < aiju> so what is your fucking point?
13:02 < jnwhiteh> to answer your question, no I don't question why its like
that because its quite standard to have compiler/linker pairs
13:03 < aiju> when you use a build tool, why do you care?
13:03 < zozoR> curious
13:03 < zozoR> ness
13:04 < aiju> it's even worse than gcc
13:04 < zozoR> also thought gcc was both linker and compiler, which made me
wonder why its seperated in go
13:04 < aiju> there are several intermediate results
13:04 < aiju> the frontend just hides the fact from you
13:04 < aiju> the go compiler is very weird straightforward to this regard
13:05 < aiju> zozoR: note that the linker takes several files
13:05 < aiju> it just deduces the other files from the one you specified
13:06 < zozoR> ^^
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13:09 < wrtp> zozoR: gcc isnt both compiler and linker - it just knows how
to invoke the linker when necessary
13:10 < wrtp> zozoR: for single-file go programs, i have a shell script
named "gc" which does essentially: 6g $* && 6l `{echo $1 | sed 's/\.go/.6/'}
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13:11 < zozoR> it should not be neccesary to make your own shell script for
something like that : |
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13:11 < aiju> i thought we had g
13:11 < aiju> *gb
13:11 < aiju> the final solution to the compilation question
13:13 < jnwhiteh> I kind of understand why they want to keep
gomake/goinstall simple..  but gb just does such a good job, I'd love to see it in
the distro :P
13:13 < jnwhiteh> but I'm just happy its available
13:14 < zozoR> yeah
13:21 < aiju> the nice thing about make is that it's rather language
agnostic
13:21 < aiju> which makes it a good universal tool
13:22 < aiju> i'd rather see someone overcoming the weaknesses of make
instead of just building more language specific tools
13:22 < aiju> (mk is a start, but still troublesome)
13:22 < jnwhiteh> aye, most projects soon find themselves quickly becoming
make =)
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13:26 < aiju> from what i've heard of it, gb is exceptionally good build
tool
13:26 < aiju> +an
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13:27 < aiju> there are lots of bullshit tools around, especially in the
building department
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13:28 < aiju> *cough* cmake *cough*
13:29 < jnwhiteh> i understand that autotools suck, and cmake is supposed to
replace those but *shrug*
13:29 < jnwhiteh> its a more religious discussion than editors =)
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13:31 < aiju> jnwhiteh: ya
13:31 < aiju> jnwhiteh: autotools and cmake _both suck_
13:31 < aiju> i'm saying this as a former cmake user
13:32 < jnwhiteh> I use waf for my LaTeX documents, but that's because
*that* toolchain also sucks :P
13:34 < aiju> *sigh*
13:34 < aiju> latex ..  ;P
13:35 < jnwhiteh> hehe
13:35 < aiju> someone really has to come up with a good document typesetter
13:35 < jnwhiteh> well, TeX is lovely at typesetting
13:35 < aiju> i spend much time fighting tex
13:36 < aiju> about trivial things, even
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13:36 < jnwhiteh> heh
13:36 < aiju> have you looked at the latex source?  it's sheer insanity
13:36 < jnwhiteh> I prefer to keep what sanity I have left.
13:37 < aiju> http://intma.in/pastes/2011-08-08T09:37:07.raw i'm really
tired of these headers
13:37 < aiju> that one is relatively short
13:37 < jnwhiteh> yeah
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13:53 < skelterjohn|work> regarding the linker/compiler discussion...  the
linker is not used when building packages; only the compiler and gopack are.  the
linker is used for creating a command.
13:54 < jnwhiteh> makes sense
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14:56 < Electro^> Another question, also possibly insultingly easy:
14:56 < Electro^> http://pastebin.com/XmTf1yqA
14:56 < Electro^> that regexp there, i cannot get it to work
14:57 < Electro^> it works on rubular (of which there is a link there), but
i cannot get go to correctly match it
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14:57 < Electro^> MustCompile does not panics so Go accepts the regexp
14:58 < Electro^> the offender seems to be the {24} part, but lower numbers
will not change anything
14:58 < Electro^> and i need to check for the existance of 24bytes of
Hexdata
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14:58 < skelterjohn|work> using regexp or exp/regexp?
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14:59 < Electro^> "regexp"
14:59 < skelterjohn|work> try it with exp/regexp, which will replace regexp
soon
14:59 < skelterjohn|work> (but i'm not a regexp expert...  can't answer your
specific question)
14:59 < skelterjohn|work> also, post entire programs if you can
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15:00 < skelterjohn|work> makes it much easier to compile your code and fool
around with it
15:01 < Electro^> true enough, not sure if my project leader much would like
that though
15:01 < nekoh> you might be interested in
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/golang-nuts/q5QkCUx0lf4/discussion
15:01 < skelterjohn|work> Electro^: you can easily make a small program to
show the problem, here
15:01 < Electro^> skelterjohn|work: i found the package on the go/packages,
but i cannot import it.
15:01 < shoenig> Electro^: that notation is only available in exp/regexp
right now
15:01 < Electro^> nekoh: checking, thanks
15:02 < skelterjohn|work> Electro^: your go distribution is out of date
15:02 < skelterjohn|work> hg pull -u releasew
15:02 < skelterjohn|work> hg pull -u release
15:04 < Electro^> none updated, which makes sense since i had 59 already
15:04 < skelterjohn|work> then exp/regexp should be there...
15:04 < Electro^> doesnt answer why i couldnt find exp/regexp though
15:05 < skelterjohn|work> oh actually
15:05 < skelterjohn|work> the version of exp/regexp in r59 seems to be a
placeholder
15:05 < skelterjohn|work> the weekly version is more or less complete
15:05 < skelterjohn|work> sorry for the bad advice
15:06 < Electro^> oh, well it certainly answer my question
15:06 < Electro^> and it was good information, since i've been banging my
head at this for 1-2hours now
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15:30 < zozoR> how would one go about listing a directory in go?
15:30 < aiju> os.Open?
15:31 < aiju> os.Open and then os.Readdir
15:31 < aiju> or Readdirnames if you only care about these
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15:31 < skelterjohn|work> there's also a directory tree walker in
path/filepath
15:31 < skelterjohn|work> that uses the os functions that aiju just
mentioned
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15:32 < aiju> path.filepath seems like overkill
15:32 < aiju> depending on the task at hand
15:38 < skelterjohn|work> certainly
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15:39 < exch> The error channel in the filepath walker feels a bit awkward
tbh
15:39 < exch> I wonder if Walk() could not just return an os.Error instead
15:41 < skelterjohn|work> i agree on the awkwardness - i'd have to think
about that alternative
15:41 < skelterjohn|work> are there no cases where multiple errors could
occur and be interesting?
15:42 < exch> Not that I have found.  But I have not done anything
particularly funky with it
15:42 < skelterjohn|work> a bunch of different directories that it visits
don't have +x?
15:42 < exch> Any error I might have is usually enough to stop parsing..
preventing ny further errors from beingencountered
15:43 < skelterjohn|work> with gb, for instance, that's not what i'd want
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15:43 < exch> hmm
15:43 < skelterjohn|work> i'd just want to ignore the paths that have
errors, but still collect all the other ones
15:43 < skelterjohn|work> (so i pass nil as the error chan)
15:43 < exch> good point
15:44 < aiju> well, sometimes you care
15:44 < skelterjohn|work> i might have wanted to report the ones that didn't
work
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15:54 < wrtp> zozoR: ioutil.ReadDir
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16:04 < wrtp> zozoR: that's probably the simplest method - only one line of
code, no open required
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17:23 < Guest28452> i am here to go nuts!
17:24 < skelterjohn|work> you may proceed.
17:27 < knowmerc1> I feel like there was a "that's what she said" moment
that passed
17:27 < skelterjohn|work> knowmerc1: that's what she said
17:28 < Guest28452> booyaka booyaa 619 yo yo dawgs
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18:44 < knowmerc1> my cow-orker just asked for feedback on his coding
standards so I told him that documentation should never be written in the first
person
18:44 < knowmerc1> I don't think he liked that feedback but I'm right and he
uses emacs so I don't care what he thinks!
18:44 < knowmerc1> BAZINGA!
18:44 < skelterjohn|work> huh
18:45 < aiju> documentation should not be written in the first place
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18:47 < knowmerc1> exactly
18:47 < aiju> it saves an incredible amount of time
18:47 < aiju> no need to write documentation
18:47 < aiju> no need to fix bugs, these are features
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18:58 < skelterjohn|work> https://gist.github.com/1132444 <- i feel like
i'm doing something stupid here, but I can't figure out what
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19:01 < skelterjohn|work> oh
19:01 < skelterjohn|work> forgot the semicolon on the func prototype
19:01 < chomp> in cgopkg.h?
19:01 < nicka> and one after the printf
19:01 < chomp> oh nvm
19:01 < skelterjohn|work> and forgot semicolons in cgopkg.c too
19:02 < chomp> i see it
19:02 < skelterjohn|work> go has spoiled me
19:02 < nicka> this is my biggest go problem also
19:02 < nicka> other language problem more specifically
19:02 < skelterjohn|work> i was so proud of myself for remembering to put
the type first in a var decl
19:02 < skelterjohn|work> and then i forget the superfluous semicolon
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19:03 < magn3ts> What is the GAE equivalent of goinstall?  :/
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19:07 < skelterjohn|work> what does GAE mean
19:08 < skelterjohn|work> google app engine
19:08 < skelterjohn|work> what you have to do is add the source of what you
want to goinstall directly into your project
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19:41 < magn3ts> That's what I was afraid of.  Oh well, this is just a tiny
project anyway.
19:41 < skelterjohn|work> I can imagine it being a pain if there are nested
goinstalls
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19:55 < skelterjohn|work> an easy way to do this, actually, is to set GOPATH
to an empty directory, do all your goinstalling, and then copy the downloaded
source all at once
19:55 < skelterjohn|work> everything needed should be in there
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20:00 < moraes> make a lil script for that
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20:25 < erus`> theres an app for that
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21:40 < f2f> another 10s shaved off the compile time with the latest chan
improvements.
21:45 < mpl> f2f: compile time of what?
21:46 < f2f> all.bash
21:47 < f2f> it's mostly in the testing phase where the time is made
21:47 < mpl> cool
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21:47 < mpl> 10s on what kind of machine?
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21:48 < mpl> all.bash compile time varies greatly from my T61 to my E6500
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21:48 < f2f> sandy bridge and a core 2
21:49 < f2f> percentage-wise the improvements are similar, although sandy
bridge compiles about 45 seconds faster overall
21:50 < mpl> k, so what kind of percentage are we talking?  you gained 10s
out of how many?
21:51 < f2f> tests are cpu-bound, so they're a good indicator for runtime
performance, i think.
21:52 < f2f> it used to be 4m10s on core2, now down to 3m03ss (after all of
dmitry's work)
21:52 < mpl> ok
21:53 < f2f> i think i started logging when rsc committed changes to make
test/bench complete faster
21:53 < f2f> or whatever the last tests were
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21:54 < mpl> was this after most of the bash stuff was converted to go?
21:54 < f2f> i wish hg log outputted a single line :(
21:55 < aiju> it does
21:55 < aiju> just add the right flag
21:55 < f2f> -xyzzy?
21:55 < leterip> -iddqd
21:55 < aiju> hahah
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21:57 < f2f> hg log | awk '/changeset/{x=$0;}/summary/{print x" "$0}'
21:58 < f2f> still shorter than xyzzy
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21:58 < aiju> hg log | sed -n 'H;/^$/{x;s/\n/\t/g;p;}'
21:58 < aiju> mine's shorter
21:58 < f2f> that's what she said :p
22:01 < leterip> lol
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22:16 < f2f> mpl, i started tracking around revision 9246
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22:25 < Tonnerre> mem.go:58: invalid operation: sizeof_C_MStats != 3680
(mismatched types uintptr and int)
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22:25 < Tonnerre> Hrm
22:25 < Tonnerre> What is that supposed to be?
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22:26 < Tonnerre> I've been getting that for weeks now trying to compile
golang
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23:08 < str1ngs> Tonnerre: what os/arch ?
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23:18 < Tonnerre> str1ngs: Linux/amd64
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23:58 < str1ngs> Tonnerre: it should be fine then.
23:58 < str1ngs> have you tried with a clean hg clone?
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