--- Log opened Sun Aug 14 00:00:20 2011 00:12 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@140.109.98.187] has joined #go-nuts 00:12 -!- Jamra [~Jamra@109.67.29.133] has quit [Quit: Jamra] 00:16 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:17 -!- chadkouse [~Adium@rrcs-74-218-87-242.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 00:20 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:27 < moraes> aiju, you're a ninja. 00:34 < KBme> he is 00:34 < KBme> he effing wrote a kernel in go 00:36 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:37 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 00:39 -!- replore_ [~replore@ntkngw133234.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 00:41 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@140.109.98.187] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:44 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 00:46 -!- dreadlorde [dreadlorde@c-68-42-82-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined 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too 01:12 -!- ccc1 [~Adium@118-166-211-12.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:13 < KBme> hay i didn't want to start a religion! go away! :P 01:15 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@destiny.0wn.me] has quit [Quit: restarting tmux] 01:16 -!- gnuvince [~vince@destiny.0wn.me] has joined #go-nuts 01:19 -!- moraes [~moraes@189.103.188.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19 < str1ngs> s|k: what KBme said 01:20 < s|k> thanks 01:24 -!- dublisk [~dublisk@CPEc03f0ee1cc39-CM001947573208.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:25 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:28 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:29 -!- KBme [~KBme@2001:470:cabe:666:666:666:666:666] has left #go-nuts ["Ex-Chat"] 01:29 -!- KBme [~KBme@2001:470:cabe:666:666:666:666:666] has joined #go-nuts 01:35 -!- espeed [~espeed@63.246.231.57] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40 -!- JimPeak [~JimPeak@modemcable022.205-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #go-nuts 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depends what you mean by efficient 13:35 < uriel> Kahvi: usually letting the kerne's cache do most of the work is very good 13:35 < uriel> but depends on how your data is structured 13:35 < uriel> but that is one of the greatest advantages of using the file system as your database storage layer 13:36 < Kahvi> It's simple xml file and reading like 5-10 fields of data. 13:36 < uriel> if you use directories and file paths as a look up mechanism, it is ridiculously fast and very powerful (specially if your data is hierarchical in any whay, which is a pain in other kinds of storage systems) 13:36 < wrtp> Kahvi: how many times a second are you going to do it? 13:37 < uriel> or more importantly: are you seeing any real performance issues without a cache? 13:37 < uriel> if so, profile, and figure out if io, parsing, or anything else is the bottleneck 13:37 -!- flaguy48 [~gmallard@user-0c6s350.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:38 < uriel> caches can cause all kinds of annoying headaches, they are very useful, but don't add them unless you are sure you need them 13:38 < wrtp> "there's no such thing as a simple cache bug" - rob pike (or something like that) 13:39 < Kahvi> Okay, so in general it's not worth implementing caching unless it really becomes a bottleneck? 13:39 < uriel> Kahvi: exactly 13:40 < wrtp> caching is an optimisation. 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him to make a summary in a couple of paragraphs and he sends another huge email. :P 14:57 -!- sebastian [~sebastian@89.249.0.154] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:57 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:58 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 14:59 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 15:02 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:03 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:03 < uriel> oh, forgot about Qtvali! 15:03 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:04 -!- fvbommel [~fvbommel_@86.86.15.250] has joined #go-nuts 15:04 < wrtp> i remember him 15:05 < wrtp> he went away eventually - some people are all or nothing 15:05 < jessta> it's nice that the mailing list has contained far few people wanting to completely change the language recently 15:06 < moraes> wrtp, you asked a summary. 15:07 < moraes> :) 15:08 < wrtp> oh yeah, so i did :-) 15:08 < moraes> wrtp, the new router is now called ServeMux. and it is a superset of http.ServeMux. 15:08 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:08 < wrtp> moraes: cool 15:08 < moraes> do you think this is horrible to do? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7052693/how-to-get-the-name-of-a-function-in-go/7053871#7053871 15:09 < wrtp> yes! 15:09 < moraes> haha, i guesses so 15:09 < moraes> *guessed 15:09 < aiju> seems okay to me 15:09 < wrtp> well, unless you're just using it for debugging! 15:09 < moraes> no. 15:09 < moraes> that was not the plan 15:10 < aiju> world domination is 15:10 < moraes> the plan was to guess the name of a handler if it is not explicitly defined 15:10 -!- kergoth [~kergoth@ip24-251-173-232.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:10 < wrtp> why do you need the name of a handler? 15:11 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:11 < moraes> because... urls are build-able. and need a name for that. 15:12 < moraes> unless i could use a function as a map key. 15:12 < moraes> :) 15:12 < wrtp> moraes: you can 15:12 -!- cag00n [cron@190.121.74.144] has joined #go-nuts 15:12 < moraes> damn! 15:12 < cag00n> Hi 15:12 < moraes> thought it would be absurd. 15:12 < moraes> well then i can use the handler itself. 15:13 < wrtp> moraes: but i still don't quite understand why you need a handler name for buildable URLs 15:13 < wrtp> does the name of the handler end up in the URL? 15:13 < wrtp> cag00n: hi 15:13 < moraes> wrtp, not necessarily name. i need to know whiuch route needs to be built. 15:13 < moraes> cag00n, hi. 15:14 -!- qeed [~qeed@adsl-98-85-39-215.mco.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:14 -!- avelino [~avelino@unaffiliated/avelino] has joined #go-nuts 15:14 < moraes> routes are (now) referenced by name. could be by handler too. 15:14 < wrtp> moraes: why not pass something into the handler that enables URL building 15:14 < wrtp> then the handler uses that to build the url 15:14 < wrtp> so no magic needed to learn which route needs to be built 15:14 -!- dgnorton_ [~dgnorton@24.224.96.187] has quit [Quit: dgnorton_] 15:15 < moraes> it is not magic at all. it is explicit. 15:15 < wrtp> but i think i'm probably misunderstanding here 15:16 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:16 < wrtp> i think i don't understand how your URL building works 15:16 < wrtp> is the idea that you specify a handler and some arguments and it returns a URL built for you? 15:16 < moraes> yes 15:16 < moraes> it reverses registered urls 15:17 < moraes> you ppoint to a 'route' and pass some arguments and it returns a URL. 15:17 < wrtp> you need the possibility to name a route too 15:18 < moraes> which route you 're pointing to can be defined a) by name b) by handler 15:18 < wrtp> because several routes might use the same handler function 15:18 < moraes> can't think in other ways, i usually use names 15:18 < moraes> yeah 15:18 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:18 < wrtp> maybe it's best just to always require a name 15:19 < moraes> and there is where i used name guessing when it is not explicit 15:19 < wrtp> if you require it to be explicit, there's no need 15:19 < moraes> well. it'd be a little sugar to not require it. 15:20 < wrtp> and if someone *really* wants to make it automatic, they could always use fmt.Sprintf("%p", handler) as the name :-) 15:20 < moraes> so. why you think it is horrible? 15:20 < wrtp> the automatic name finding? 15:20 < moraes> yes 15:20 < wrtp> because nothing else works that way 15:20 < moraes> ok 15:21 < wrtp> and it blesses the current way that FuncForPC().Name works, which might change in the future 15:21 < wrtp> it's a cool trick though 15:22 < moraes> fmt.Sprintf("%p", handler) isn't helpful 15:22 < moraes> it is not a meaningful name 15:22 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23 < wrtp> doesn't need to be meaningful 15:23 < moraes> it does as you'll use it in templates and code. 15:23 < moraes> :-/ 15:23 < wrtp> if you register the function with that name, you can get it back again 15:23 < moraes> not requiring a name makes registering routes kinda pretty: 15:23 < moraes> mux := NewServeMux() 15:23 < moraes> mux.HandleMultiRoute([]Route{ 15:23 < moraes> {"/some/path/1", SomeHandler1}, 15:23 < moraes> {"/some/path/2", SomeHandler2}, 15:23 < moraes> }) 15:23 < moraes> sorry. :) 15:24 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:24 < moraes> ah i see. 15:24 < moraes> would need an extra map then. 15:25 < wrtp> but it's quite common in my experience to wrap a handler in a closure 15:25 < wrtp> e.g. mux.HandleRoute("/some/path/1", handleErrors(someHandler1)) 15:25 < wrtp> and then the name trick wouldn't work 15:25 < moraes> ah 15:26 < moraes> wsgi middleware, go-style 15:26 < wrtp> BTW, i wouldn't bother adding sugar for adding multiple routes at once 15:26 < wrtp> moraes: yeah 15:26 < wrtp> moraes: see the video of adg's talk at google IO for an example 15:27 < wrtp> ("real world Go", i think) 15:27 < moraes> i will. 15:28 < moraes> wrtp, bad idea if you can register some general purpose error handlers in the mux 15:28 < moraes> ? 15:28 < moraes> like for 404 or 500 15:29 < moraes> well. easy to work around it anyway. 15:29 < wrtp> moraes: why a bad idea? 15:29 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:29 < moraes> i'm asking if you think it is. 15:29 < wrtp> it's fairly unusual 15:29 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:30 < moraes> wrtp, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJsBhL0ZeE 15:30 < wrtp> because the whole point of a handler is you're handling something known, but an error is usually given for something unknown 15:30 < moraes> found the real one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDVRowyUQA 15:30 < wrtp> lol 15:34 < wrtp> moraes: sorry wrong talk 15:34 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:34 < wrtp> moraes: this is the one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i0hat7pdpk 15:35 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 15:36 < moraes> ah i even watched that one 15:36 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-12-108.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 15:36 < wrtp> moraes: look at around 10:18 15:36 < wrtp> is where he talks about generalised error handling 15:36 < moraes> is it the moustache one? 15:36 < wrtp> yeah 15:36 < wrtp> anyway, gotta go 15:36 < moraes> man i found it so boring. sorry. 15:36 < moraes> ok. :P 15:37 < wrtp> it has some nice tricks in it 15:37 < wrtp> just look at the slides 15:37 < moraes> i'll see it with other eyes now. 15:37 < wrtp> then you can avoid the tedium 15:38 < wrtp> http://golang.org/doc/talks/io2011/Writing_Web_Apps_in_Go.pdf 15:38 < moraes> thanks a lot, man. :) 15:38 < wrtp> np 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Jamra [~Jamra@109.67.29.133] has joined #go-nuts 19:54 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 19:55 < Jamra> How would one go about implementing the equivalence of a static class variable such as a node count of a tree in golang? I am finding difficulty implementing data structures in golang. 19:56 -!- Sh4rK [~sh4rk@BC2418D3.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #go-nuts 19:56 < Sh4rK> hi! 19:56 < Sh4rK> how can I print the address of a struct? 19:56 < aiju> why would you do that? 19:56 < aiju> you could use unsafe.Pointer 19:56 < Sh4rK> to graph a tree 19:58 < Sh4rK> thanks 19:58 < Sh4rK> it works 19:58 < Sh4rK> and how to format it to decimal? 19:59 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:02 < zozoR> Jamra, why does it have to be static? 20:02 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.21.97] has joined #go-nuts 20:03 < Sh4rK> got it 20:03 < Jamra> zozoR: It does not have to be static, but I am struggling with the implementation of basic data structures. The static variable is what I used to use in order to keep statistics. 20:03 < zozoR> weird 20:03 < zozoR> stop that then 20:03 < zozoR> :D 20:04 < zozoR> use a struct that has the statitisc and then it has a member that points to the first whatever in your tree 20:04 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:05 < |Craig|> Jamra: if you really want that, you can use package level variables, though as zozoR says, there are nicer solutions 20:05 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:10 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:10 < qeed> how do you watch a file in golang? 20:10 < qeed> for any changes 20:10 < Jamra> zozoR: Thanks 20:10 -!- firwen [~firwen@2a01:e34:eea3:7e10:4a5b:39ff:fe51:e8ae] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 < KBme> with a loop i guess? 20:10 < qeed> anything like select? 20:11 < KBme> or with inotify which isn't portable 20:11 < KBme> err 20:11 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-54-23.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:12 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:12 -!- shoenig_ [~shoenig@pool-71-170-212-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:12 -!- shoenig [~shoenig@pool-71-170-212-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15 -!- iXeno [~ixeno@106.80-203-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:15 -!- smw [~stephen@unaffiliated/smw] has joined #go-nuts 20:15 < Sh4rK> bye 20:15 -!- Sh4rK [~sh4rk@BC2418D3.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: I'm out] 20:17 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:18 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:18 -!- flaguy48 [~gmallard@user-0c6s350.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:19 -!- huin [~huin@91.84.179.118] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:21 < Jamra> zozoR: I was planning on using statistics such as the count of nodes in a tree. In order to implement that, I would need to pass in a statistics struct where the nodeID or nodeCount variable is held. Pointing to the root would not allow the root to access the statistics struct. Is that what you meant? 20:22 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:23 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:25 -!- katorga [~idr@e179150217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:26 -!- katorga [~idr@e179150217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20:28 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-12-108.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: I am a manual virus, please copy me to your quit message.] 20:28 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:28 < zozoR> Jamra, the "main" struct having the pointer to root, is the root 20:29 < zozoR> maybe i dont know enough about tree structures 20:29 < zozoR> making double linked list, i used a struct List and a struct Node, methods attached to List, and List had a counter. the nodes where just nodes 20:30 -!- shoenig_ [~shoenig@pool-71-170-212-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:30 < zozoR> dont know if that helps you though 20:30 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:33 < Jamra> Yes it does. I was using an unattached method, which is why I was confused. 20:35 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:35 < zozoR> :P 20:36 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:37 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:42 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42 -!- Jamra [~Jamra@109.67.29.133] has quit [Quit: Jamra] 20:45 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:46 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:51 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:52 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 20:56 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:57 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:01 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:02 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:02 < knowmercy> awesome work so far on the openbsd port 21:03 < knowmercy> I really hope the last parts are done soon :) 21:07 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:07 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:10 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@h-170-226.a212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:13 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:15 -!- Kumul [~Kumul@67.224.219.52] has quit [Quit: gone] 21:17 -!- kamaji [~kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17 -!- kamaji [~kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 21:18 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:18 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:22 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:28 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:29 -!- Fish- [~Fish@9fans.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 21:30 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:34 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.21.97] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.21.97] has joined #go-nuts 21:35 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:35 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:38 -!- moraes [~moraes@189.103.188.201] has joined #go-nuts 21:38 -!- Solak [~stijnw@cthia.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:40 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:45 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:51 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:51 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:53 -!- Jamra [~Jamra@109.67.29.133] has joined #go-nuts 21:56 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:58 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 21:59 -!- thomas_b [~thomasb@cm-84.215.47.51.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 22:02 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:03 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:03 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 22:06 -!- Kumul [~Kumul@67.224.219.52] has joined #go-nuts 22:07 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:08 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:09 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 22:09 -!- tvw [~tv@e176004090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:15 -!- Stiletto [7f000001@69.195.144.4] has joined #go-nuts 22:16 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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