--- Log opened Mon Aug 29 00:00:22 2011
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00:02 < __lucio__> str1ngs, thanks a lot.
00:02 < nicka> go-opengl uses glew and that works fine on ubuntu/fglrx afaik
so if it's anything it'd be an issue with the library or cgo
00:04 < str1ngs> __lucio__: if you run make gl_defs.go do you get any
errors?
00:04 < str1ngs> __lucio__: also after doing that do you still get the
orginal error?
00:07 < str1ngs> __lucio__: also if you know someone else running ubuntu
10.10, get them to confirm the error
00:10 < __lucio__> str1ngs, gl_defs.go came with the repo, and of course,
simple make claims it up to date.  removing the file and and trying to make it
gives: http://pastebin.com/DtjZ726x
00:11 < str1ngs> ah now we are getting somewhere
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00:13 < str1ngs> make sure GL_BUFFER_ACCESS_FLAGS is in
/usr/include/GL/glew.h
00:14 < __lucio__> lucio@prometeo:~/src/cnc/gotrees/Go-OpenGL$ grep
GL_BUFFER_ACCESS_FLAGS /usr/include/GL/*
00:14 < __lucio__> /usr/include/GL/glext.h:#define GL_BUFFER_ACCESS_FLAGS
0x911F
00:14 < __lucio__> str1ngs, ^^
00:15 < str1ngs> /usr/include/GL/glew.h:#define GL_BUFFER_ACCESS_FLAGS
0x911F
00:15 < str1ngs> so that seems odd
00:16 < str1ngs> try with grep GL_BUFFER_ACCESS_FLAGS -R /usr/include/GL
00:16 < __lucio__> its only in that file
00:17 < str1ngs> gl_defs includes <GL/glew.h>
00:17 < str1ngs> so it expects it to be there
00:17 < str1ngs> so something is not quite right with glew.h
00:18 < str1ngs> but..  I dont use ubuntu so hard for me to figure out what
might be the issue.
00:18 < str1ngs> could simply be a missing -dev package hard to say
00:20 < str1ngs> __lucio__: what does apt-file search glew.h return
00:21 < __lucio__> (updating apt-file cache)
00:21 < str1ngs> might take abit :P
00:26 < __lucio__> $ apt-file search glew.h
00:26 < __lucio__> libglew1.5-dev: /usr/include/GL/glew.h
00:26 < __lucio__> libglew1.5-dev: /usr/include/GL/wglew.h
00:26 < __lucio__> nvidia-cg-toolkit:
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-cg-toolkit/examples/OpenGL/glew/include/GL/glew.h.gz
00:26 < __lucio__> nvidia-cg-toolkit:
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-cg-toolkit/examples/OpenGL/glew/include/GL/wglew.h.gz
00:26 < __lucio__> str1ngs, there
00:27 < __lucio__> and, of course: $ apt-cache policy libglew1.5-dev
00:27 < __lucio__> libglew1.5-dev:
00:27 < __lucio__> Installed: 1.5.2-0ubuntu1
00:29 < str1ngs> yep seems right
00:31 < str1ngs> apt-get install --reinstall libglew1.5-dev
00:31 < str1ngs> just to be safe
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00:32 < str1ngs> if you still have problems after that all I can suggest is
find someone else that is using ubuntu 10.10 and get them to confirm the error.
if they get the samething then post a bug
00:34 < __lucio__> str1ngs, ok, it still fails.  ill try to reproduce on my
other machine then post a bug.
00:34 < __lucio__> thanks a lot!
00:34 < str1ngs> np
00:34 < str1ngs> I should clarify post an issue on github for go-opengl.
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04:30 < enferex> Are there any well know benchmarking suites for go?  I know
of those presented in the bench directory.  But im looking for others.  Ones more
dedicated to exercising the memory system.
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04:57 < |Craig|> enferex: theres a great blog post about that stuff, I'll
fine it....
04:57 < enferex> is it the havlak benchmark?
04:57 < |Craig|> http://blog.golang.org/2011/06/profiling-go-programs.html
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04:58 < enferex> yep the havlak stuff, thanks Craig
04:58 < |Craig|> oh, that profiling, you said benchmarking
04:58 < |Craig|> may be useful though, its a fantastic article :)
04:59 < enferex> yeah I was look for more memory stress apps, mainly in the
bench directory the heaviest hitters are the binary-tree and binary-tree-freelist
derived from the Alioth Programming Language Challenge
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08:26 < str1ngs> for http://golang.org/doc/contribute.html#tmp_150 . do I
need to commit changes before I mail?
08:26 < str1ngs> I'm trying to update this CL
http://codereview.appspot.com/4973044/
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12:16 < jlaffaye> I find the cipher crypto thing a little obscure.
Especially when I want to encipher a file > Blocksize
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12:24 < brandini> morning
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14:42 < s1monw1> hey folks
14:42 < s1monw1> anybody around who could gimme a hint with the go makefiles
14:42 < mpl> don't ask to ask.
14:42 < exch> s1monw1: What is your question?
14:43 < s1monw1> I basically want to create an executable and I followed the
tutorial
14:43 < s1monw1> make install
14:43 < s1monw1> 6g -o _go_.6 main.go
14:43 < s1monw1> rm -f _obj/main.a
14:43 < s1monw1> gopack grc _obj/main.a _go_.6
14:43 < s1monw1> so this is what happens
14:43 < s1monw1> but it seems that there is no linker call there
14:43 < exch> The makefile includes Make.pkg as the last line?
14:44 < exch> if so,turn it into Make.cmd
14:44 < exch> that will give you an executable
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14:44 < s1monw1> ah man
14:44 < s1monw1> I knew its a trivial thing
14:44 < mpl> the one you have is to make a package/lib
14:44 < s1monw1> ah man that makes perfect sense LOL
14:45 < s1monw1> thanks man
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14:47 < exch> On the same subject, WHich makefile variable do I assign to in
order to add additional linker flags?  Specifically the -s (strip) flag?
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14:48 < espadrine`> Hello.  Is there a way to define a function that can
take any number type as a parameter?
14:49 < exch> espadrine`: Not for numbers specifically.  You can have it
accept interface{}, but you'll have to do a type switch to ensure you got the
correct type as parameter.  Or you can implement a custom Number type which
handles things the way you want it to
14:50 < exch> Or you can just supply separate functions for int, float, etc
14:50 < espadrine`> exch: but you can't use + for interface{} objects, can
you?
14:51 < exch> nope
14:51 < exch> You will need the type assertion to turn it back into int,
float, etc
14:51 < exch> then do the mathy bits
14:52 < exch> This sort of thing comes down to the touchy subject of
generics, which are an ongoing subject of debate :)
14:52 < espadrine`> exch: Should I use a.Add(b) then?
14:53 < exch> If you have a custom Number type, then yes.  That seems
appropriate
14:53 < exch> Go does not allo operator overloading
14:53 < exch> *allow
14:53 < espadrine`> exch: Let me explain.  I am trying to implement Paul
Graham's accumulator (http://www.paulgraham.com/accgen.html)
14:53 < espadrine`> I was trying to find the best way to implement it.
14:57 < exch> Yea, there is no easy and generic way to do this in Go. One
way or another, you will need your code to differentiate between ints, uints and
floats
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14:57 < nicka> gotgo might be an option, espadrine`
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14:57 < nicka> if you want generics now
14:58 < espadrine`> exch, nicka: thanks
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15:30 < espadrine`> exch: Why doesn't that http://pastie.org/2449122 work?
(the issue being that the incrementation step does not increment anything)
15:31 < exch> It oes increment, but the Increment method on the Int type has
a non-pointer receiver.  This means that Go copies the value and then calls
Incremement on that copy
15:32 < exch> try using a pointer receiver: func (a *Int) Increment(b
Number)
15:32 < espadrine`> exch: Making the Int type a pointer receiver makes it no
longer a Number
15:32 < espadrine`> "Int does not implement Number"
15:32 < exch> Int will not be a Number, but *Int will be
15:34 < espadrine`> Ok. How do you convert constants like 5 and 10 to *Int?
15:35 < exch> I think it will be less of a hassle of you define type Int as
a struct with an int field.  Not sure how this works out performance wise though
15:35 < exch> mm This will get messy fast
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15:51 < uriel> nf: are you working already on a Go version of the dashboard?
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16:01 < exch> espadrine`: I tried the whole 'generic' Number type once for a
script interpreter.  It turned out not to be worth it.  The alternative was even
less elegant, but at least it was faster: https://gist.github.com/1178707
**Disclaimer: The enclosed code may give you nightmares.  Peruse at your own
risk**
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16:02 < espadrine`> exch: oO
16:03 < espadrine`> exch: I can see why it gives nightmares.
16:03 < exch> I have considered therapy after writing that :p
16:03 < exch> At least it worked
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16:07 < zeebo> this is fairly clean: http://www.pastie.org/2449308
16:07 < zeebo> although the &five and &ten is a gross hack
16:08 < mpl> switch all the cases!
16:09 < exch> It looks clean for now.  Now you have to put in code that
checks for types other than *Int.  And replicate that code for each different type
Float, Uint, etc :)
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16:10 < exch> It will turn out to be similar to my gist code, but split up
into separate types
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16:10 < zeebo> you only really need a type that can add any other type into
it with a typswitch
16:10 < zeebo> then its pretty trivial
16:11 < zeebo> so there will only be one giant horror of a typeswitch hehe
16:11 < exch> hehe
16:11 < exch> Would be interesting to see the performance difference beteen
your version and mine
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16:27 < kahvi> I'm glad I haven't needed type switches.  They're ugly.  :)
16:28 < zeebo> this works i think http://www.pastie.org/2449427
16:29 < skelterjohn> they look fine to me
16:29 < skelterjohn> "ugly" and "unfamiliar" are often confused, with
programming languages
16:30 < exch> zeebo: you can do 'switch tt := v.(type) {' tt will then
already be the proper type in each respective case
16:31 < exch> e..g.: 'case int:' tt will be an int
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16:31 < BizarreCake> Sorry, disconnected there.
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16:31 < zeebo> exch: never used a typeswitch before so thanks for the tip :)
16:31 < skelterjohn> i forgive you, BizarreCake
16:33 < gattuso> hi
16:33 < gattuso> how to have the 'encoding/line' package?
16:34 < pharris> gattuso: It was folded into the bufio package.
16:35 < gattuso> thanks
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17:38 < Taos> Morning all
17:38 < Taos> Are there any documentation for making network connections
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17:41 <+iant> Taos: http://golang.org/pkg/net/
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17:42 < Taos> Thanks there
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17:45 < Taos> one last question
17:45 < Taos> do we get something like foreach?
17:46 < KirkMcDonald> Taos:
http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#For_statements
17:46 < KirkMcDonald> Taos: Note the "range" clause.
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17:47 < KirkMcDonald> Taos: Really I just recommend reading the whole spec.
It's not that long, and quite readable.
17:47 < Taos> KirkMcDonald: your here too??
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17:47 < KirkMcDonald> I am in all times and all places.
17:47 < Taos> haha nice.
17:49 < Taos> KirkMcDonald: mind looking if my funtion sounds right?
17:51 < KirkMcDonald> I'm sure that if you linked it to the channel, someone
might help.  :-)
17:52 < Taos> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/466604/ Does this look right?
17:53 < nicka> you want for _, str :- range s
17:53 < nicka> as you have it str will hold the index
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17:53 < Taos> nicka: thanks ^^
17:54 < KirkMcDonald> s/:-/:=/
17:54 < KirkMcDonald> (Just to be clear.)
17:54 < nicka> and your function should read func join(s []string) string
17:54 < nicka> (yes)
17:54 < Taos> We must declare returns?
17:54 < KirkMcDonald> Taos: Of course.
17:54 < remy_o> declare returns ?
17:55 < KirkMcDonald> Include the return type in the signature of the
function.
17:55 < remy_o> oh
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17:56 < Taos> So now with those changes I think this will work
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/466606/
17:56 < Taos> Yes im testing it too
17:57 < KirkMcDonald> Taos: You're using "foo" % blah
17:57 < remy_o> Taos: you probably wanted to use a comma
17:57 < Taos> oh?
17:57 < KirkMcDonald> Also: http://golang.org/pkg/strings/#Join
17:58 < KirkMcDonald> The function already exists.  :-)
17:58 < Taos> Crap -_-
17:58 < remy_o> also there is a convenience fmt.Println that puts the
newline for you :)
17:58 < Taos> Ill learn eventually!  :D
17:58 < KirkMcDonald> fmt.Printf("The current addresses available are %s\n",
strings.Join(addresses, ","))
17:59 < KirkMcDonald> Or whatever.
17:59 < remy_o> you can say something like: fmt.Println("Error:", err)
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18:00 < Taos> just to get my head around it why can I not do import
"strings" strings.join?
18:01 < remy_o> you mean strings.Join ?
18:01 < Taos> I knew that
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18:03 < Taos> Oh my i miss not having listcomps all of a sudden
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18:04 < Taos> I want to get every .String() in an array of Addr's whats a
good step?
18:04 < KirkMcDonald> Allocate a []string of equal length.
18:04 < remy_o> maybe make a []Addr of the length of the initial array and
loop
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18:05 < Taos> when defining a function can I do []net.Addr?
18:06 < KirkMcDonald> Yes.
18:06 < Taos> Awesome :D
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18:19 < aiju> why are people so afraid of loops?
18:19 < aiju> were they bitten by a fortran DO loop as a kid or something?
18:22 < magn3ts> Any speculation on Spot?
18:23 < aiju> i think it's a language especially for nuclear missiles
18:23 < aiju> as part of the google world domination
18:25 < zeebo> i think theres so many higher level constucts like list
comprehensions and ranges that make people scared of just doing the "nitty gritty"
loops
18:25 < zeebo> from other languages
18:26 < zeebo> like if its not a 1 liner it cant possibly be as efficient
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18:26 < nicka> for i := range slice is a nice shorthand
18:26 < zeebo> agreed
18:26 < zeebo> but if range doesn't apply some people tend to just freak out
and not know what to do anymore
18:27 < zeebo> like, i have to use a counter variable?  this cant be right!
18:27 < aiju> when i started programming, i thought functions were only for
total nutjobs
18:27 < aiju> i mean, they are totally unnecessary
18:28 < aiju> so i don't understand what makes people so lost in high-level
constructs
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18:29 < KirkMcDonald> Some people have just never operated outside of a
high-level language.
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18:50 < smw> What do you use in Go to do things like ncurses?
18:50 < aiju> there are ncurses ports
18:50 < smw> is there anything in go?
18:50 < smw> perhaps simpler than ncurses?  lol
18:51 < aiju> haha
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18:51 < smw> aiju, even something to replace a line over and over would be a
huge help...
18:51 < aiju> what are you trying to do?
18:51 < aiju> smw: \r?
18:51 < aiju> although \b works with more terminals
18:52 < KirkMcDonald> Maybe someone should port Urwid to Go.
18:52 < smw> KirkMcDonald, that would be cool
18:54 < smw> KirkMcDonald, yikes the screenshots are ugly :-P
18:55 < aiju> people make console UI libraries?  in 2011?
18:55 < smw> aiju, why not?  :-)
18:55 < aiju> fairly sophisticated console UI libraries
18:56 < smw> aiju, it is much easier to run console programs remotely
18:56 < remy_o> and consoles have evolved
18:57 < aiju> if just X11 weren't so much of a clusterfuck
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18:58 < smw> aiju, ncurses programs are just so much easier to use...
18:58 < KirkMcDonald> aiju: Perhaps it's better than using 30+ year old
console UI libraries?
18:59 < aiju> just like line printerrs
18:59 < aiju> and where is my punch tape support?
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19:00 < smw> aiju, what do you think a console is?
19:00 < smw> aiju, consoles are still the best user interface, period.
19:00 < aiju> mice are for wimps
19:00 < smw> (well, I must admit they don't make the best window managers or
web browsers)
19:01 < aiju>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/VT220_Irssi.jpg
19:01 < aiju> although i myself usually end up using console apps *sigh*
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19:37 < ericvh> had some partial success with gccgo for powerpc and decided
to move that effort to working against the gofront repo.  Can you just bind the
gofront repo over an arbitrary gcc 4.6 tree or is there a particular version its
"tuned" to compile against?
19:38 < ericvh> iant: ^^^
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20:08 < Taos> Im loving go sofar
20:08 < Taos> its fun
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20:14 <+iant> ericvh: gofrontend more or less needs to work with mainline
20:14 <+iant> actually the differences aren't large, but they do exist
20:17 < ericvh> kk, so any suggestions?  I was hacking on the Debian source
package just to see how far I could get on power, but I don't want the effort to
be throw-away.
20:17 <+iant> It should be very simple to take your work over to gcc
mainline
20:17 <+iant> thanks for looking at it, by the way
20:18 <+iant> the changes between 4.6 and mainline should not affect porting
gccgo/libgo
20:18 <+iant> it's just that if you want to use current gofrontend, you
should use mainline
20:18 <+iant> which you can get via http://gcc.gnu.org/svn.html
20:19 < ericvh> okay, will do.  thanks.
20:21 < ericvh> okay, one last question — against gcc tip for mainline or
gccgo branch?
20:21 <+iant> gcc tip
20:22 < ericvh> kk.  thanks.
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22:35 < freetz> gccgo is in gcc-4.6, but did binutils get an update or do we
still need the branch mentioned on golang?
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22:45 < anticw> niemeyer: template: range over channels now implemented,
that's actually quite useful for me
22:47 < niemeyer> anticw: Hey
22:47 < anticw> freetz: no, recent binutils shoudl be fine
22:48 < anticw> at least i never updated binutils explicitly and i'm mostly
using debian which is getting ancient again (sigh)
22:49 < anticw> niemeyer: yeah, i'm sure you saw the commit as well, just
pointing it out the obvious partly because im happy it's there
22:49 < niemeyer> anticw: It is pretty neat indeed
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