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07:31 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@pool-74-101-133-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:31 < alexluya> thanks 07:37 -!- deepfuture [~liuxing@42.49.120.232] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:38 -!- tansell-laptop [~tansell@nat/google/x-dpwfflgknzgeitlw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:46 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.159.125] has joined #go-nuts 07:47 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@pool-74-101-133-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 07:48 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.26.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.26.180] has joined #go-nuts 08:03 -!- remy_o [~babar@archlinux/developer/remy-o] has joined #go-nuts 08:10 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has joined #go-nuts 08:11 -!- zozoR [~Morten@2906ds2-arno.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:27 -!- ronnyy 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< goraes> so you need tyhe old sig or avoid Split() 09:02 < goraes> ive been doing split manually 09:02 < Argue> hrm, the go site doesn't seem to make it easy to find the older versions of the docs 09:03 < goraes> nope 09:03 < goraes> you can run godoc and browse locally 09:04 < Argue> ah, there we go 09:04 < Argue> thanks! 09:04 < goraes> ideally godoc should be able to generate static docs so at least golang.org could offer static reference for older versions 09:10 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.154.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 -!- smw [~stephen@unaffiliated/smw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:49 -!- sinclair [~chatzilla@ip-118-90-5-90.xdsl.xnet.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 09:51 -!- napsy [~luka@tm.213.143.73.175.lc.telemach.net] has joined #go-nuts 10:15 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@h-170-226.a212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:16 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 10:27 -!- Solak [~stijnw@cthia.xs4all.nl] has 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learn emacs, 6th try or so 14:18 < nsf> :D 14:18 -!- avelino_ [~avelino@189.120.233.230] has joined #go-nuts 14:18 < vegai> trying to learn emacs is like trying to learn (all of) math, imho 14:18 < nsf> no, it's not like that 14:19 < nsf> in fact, I think there are less actual things than in vim 14:19 < nsf> but a loooot of additions 14:19 < nsf> for example it displays line numbers on the right via special mode 14:19 < nsf> linum-mode 14:19 < nsf> :D 14:19 < nsf> oops, I mean on the left 14:20 < nsf> but it gives you a lot of control on how it is performed 14:20 < nsf> you can format numbers in hex for example if you want 14:20 < nsf> :D 14:20 < vegai> yeah.. 14:20 < vegai> everything is tweakable 14:20 < vegai> also, http://orgmode.org/ is nice 14:20 < nsf> I agree, it is both a bad thing and a good thing 14:20 -!- avelino [~avelino@unaffiliated/avelino] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21 < nsf> good because you can tweak everything, bad because sometimes you just want an editor that just works 14:22 < nsf> anyways, at least I hope to improve gocode presence on emacs 14:23 < nsf> I don't like the auto complete mode (http://cx4a.org/software/auto-complete) mode 14:23 < nsf> s/mode// 14:23 < nsf> but looks like it works in async mode 14:23 < nsf> which is awesome 14:24 < nsf> I should dig it a bit 14:24 -!- TheMue [~FMueller@p5DDF77E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:25 < Ginto8> nsf, thanks for pointing me to acp, and thanks for bitching when I didn't use :help right, it was helpful :P 14:26 < nsf> ) 14:26 < nsf> I think vim help is actually even better than emacs' 14:28 < Ginto8> so I ended up getting the go auto-popup to work by basically copying the python auto-popup :P 14:31 < nsf> good 14:31 < nsf> if it works 14:32 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:33 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 14:39 -!- andry1 [~andry1@cpe-72-185-63-182.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:41 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 14:42 -!- ericvh [~Adium@cpe-72-177-122-77.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:48 -!- deepfuture [~liuxing@42.49.126.228] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:52 -!- napsy [~luka@tm.213.143.73.175.lc.telemach.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:53 < Gertm> nsf: gocode is totally awesome, thanks for that. 14:53 < nsf> np 14:53 < Gertm> also, I couldn't get termbox to work 14:54 < Gertm> Long time since you updated it? 14:54 < nsf> it's sad, but expected 14:54 < nsf> yeah, I'm not sure it works with G 14:54 < nsf> with Go* 14:54 < nsf> I'll check it sometime soon 14:54 < Gertm> I'll keep an eye on the repo :) 14:55 < nsf> Gertm: but what's wrong with it? fails to compile or something else? 14:55 < Gertm> the demo program works, but I couldn't get the go code to compile 14:56 < nsf> ah, ok, I'll check that out 14:58 -!- ronnyy [~quassel@p4FF1C6FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 -!- yogib [~yogib@dslb-178-009-071-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:59 < nsf> Gertm: on x86, works just fine 14:59 < nsf> Gertm: what's your OS and arch? 14:59 < Gertm> ok lemme check it again 14:59 < Gertm> Linux x86, so I should get that to work :) 15:00 < nsf> yeah, it should work 15:00 < nsf> especially if C version works 15:00 < vegai> oy, did you guys notice that Ragel outputs go code these days? 15:00 < vegai> or perhaps this is year-old news 15:00 < nsf> vegai: it's old news 15:00 < Gertm> ok, what do I do again, ./compile.sh or just make? 15:00 < nsf> vegai: it was in trunk for a while 15:00 < nsf> Gertm: make 15:01 < nsf> forget about scripts, I know it's a bit messy here 15:01 < nsf> but you should use cmake to build C stuff 15:01 < nsf> and in go dir just use make 15:01 < nsf> it will call cmake by itself 15:01 -!- napsy 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Curses-like but easier. 15:05 < nsf> for example you want to make an app which should work without gui 15:06 < nsf> well, ok then :) 15:08 -!- yogib [~yogib@dslb-178-009-071-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: yogib] 15:10 -!- andry1 [~andry1@cpe-72-185-63-182.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0/20110811165603]] 15:13 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:18 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 15:22 -!- tsung [~jon@112.104.90.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:23 < Ginto8> nsf, I take back my prior statement, it isn't working 15:23 -!- tsung [~jon@112.104.143.27] has joined #go-nuts 15:25 -!- tsung [~jon@112.104.143.27] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:25 < nsf> :\ 15:25 < nsf> what's wrong with it? 15:25 < nsf> example app is rather ugly 15:26 < nsf> but it works just fine on my machine 15:28 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@82.84.92.105] has joined #go-nuts 15:28 < Ginto8> I'm talking about the auto popup :P 15:28 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-182-10.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:28 < nsf> oh, right 15:28 < nsf> sorry 15:28 < Ginto8> that's ok 15:28 < nsf> your nicks are alike 15:28 < nsf> I wasn't paying attention :D 15:28 < nsf> hm.. sad stuff 15:29 < Ginto8> annoying stuff >.< 15:29 -!- huin [~huin@91.85.139.164] has joined #go-nuts 15:29 * nsf learns emacs 15:29 < nsf> :D 15:30 < erus`> is there a memo bot on this channel 15:30 < erus`> anyone who has skelterjohn on their google+ look at how similar he is to sylar off heroes :P 15:31 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@h-170-226.a212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #go-nuts 15:33 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.69.60] has joined #go-nuts 15:36 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@82.84.92.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:49 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-167-81.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #go-nuts 15:49 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.69.60] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:53 -!- remy_o [~babar@archlinux/developer/remy-o] has joined #go-nuts 15:54 -!- henrykh [50dd1f0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.221.31.15] has joined #go-nuts 15:56 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.94.217] has joined #go-nuts 15:59 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-167-81.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:01 < str1ngs> erus`: you can use MemoServ ask in #freenode if you are not sure how to use it. 16:02 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-84-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:05 -!- goraes [~goraes@189.103.177.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 -!- tsung [~jon@175.180.141.57] has joined #go-nuts 16:06 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-163-49.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #go-nuts 16:06 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.94.217] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:07 -!- htoothrot [~mux@66-169-185-121.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Quit: here we are] 16:09 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:10 -!- mrsrikanth [~mrsrikant@59.92.92.21] has joined #go-nuts 16:12 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.86.77] has joined #go-nuts 16:12 -!- htoothrot [~mux@66-169-185-121.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:14 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has joined #go-nuts 16:14 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 16:15 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-163-49.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:17 -!- Project_2502 [~progettin@82.84.79.163] has joined #go-nuts 16:17 -!- Project_2501 [~progettin@82.84.86.77] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:18 -!- henrykh [50dd1f0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.221.31.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-2-135-152.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-2-135-152.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 16:23 -!- henrykh [50dd1f0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.221.31.15] has joined #go-nuts 16:25 -!- avelino_ [~avelino@189.120.233.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25 < xyproto> hey, why not write a memo bot in Go? 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17:34 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:36 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:37 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:37 < xyproto> Why is '\0' not translated to 0 in Go? 17:37 < xyproto> I get: non-octal character in escape sequence: ' 17:37 < nsf> xyproto: Go is weird 17:38 < nsf> you can use \x00 17:38 < xyproto> nsf: :) 17:38 < xyproto> nsf: allright, thanks 17:39 < nsf> or \000 17:39 < nsf> :D 17:40 -!- mrsrikanth [~mrsrikant@59.92.92.21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:40 -!- remy_tel [~remy_tel@80.214.8.20] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40 < xyproto> nsf: is "\0" possible, or any variation using " instead of ' ? 17:40 < nsf> no 17:41 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:41 < nsf> btw, what are you writing? 17:41 < nsf> I know this C to Go translator thing 17:41 < nsf> but where do you need \0? 17:42 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@cpe-67-247-80-249.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:45 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.154.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:49 < xyproto> nsf: a C program uses '\0' to terminate a string, and I'm trrying to find a clever way to handle it. The string-handling-to-Go part isn't going too well right now though, unfortunately :D 17:50 < xyproto> nsf: all the other stuff was "easy" :) 17:50 < xyproto> nsf: but strings are so different in C and Go 17:50 < nsf> I guess yes 17:50 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50 < xyproto> nsf: just things like myHappyString[2] = '\0' 17:50 < nsf> you can't use Go library with zero terminated strings 17:50 < nsf> but Go is pretty much capable of holding zero terminated strings 17:51 < nsf> and with appropriate libraries it can work just fine 17:51 < xyproto> nsf: no, so I'm thinking about injecting a custom PretendToBeCString type, with functions like "strcmp" that work with it 17:51 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:51 < xyproto> nsf: or just bytes/buffers 17:51 < nsf> well, I still don't quite the get you project idea 17:51 < nsf> so, I can't tell how you should do that :D 17:51 < xyproto> nsf: the super-nicest way would be if the converter could figure out where to convert to Go strings, though :) 17:51 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:52 -!- smw [~stephen@unaffiliated/smw] has joined #go-nuts 17:52 < xyproto> nsf: the project idea is to help people (like me) to port C libraries to Go, for the purpose of using it in ie. appengine 17:52 < nsf> ah, right 17:52 < nsf> app engine 17:52 < xyproto> nsf: there is a lot of obvious and manual labor involved in converting code from C, while some C-projects has really, really well-tested code, that is worth porting 17:53 < nsf> the should really create a nacl version of app engine :D 17:53 < xyproto> nsf: yes, but why stop there? How about porting the kernel to Go? ;) 17:53 < xyproto> nsf: (linux) 17:53 < nsf> lol 17:53 < nsf> it's pointless 17:54 < xyproto> nsf: that's what they said about electricity and the telephone as well :P 17:54 < nsf> it's possible, but Go will look ugly when converted from C 17:54 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54 < nsf> and who needs unmaintainable source code 17:54 < xyproto> nsf: it's not to shabby, give it a shot :) 17:54 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:54 < xyproto> nsf: it can be maintained by translating automatically + a patchset? 17:55 < nsf> no, I still think it's a bad idea 17:55 < nsf> but if you want to do it, why not 17:55 < xyproto> nsf: at the very least, it makes C code more plesant to read 17:56 < nsf> I thought krawl is a good idea 17:56 < nsf> I've spent 2 months writing a compiler in C++ 17:56 < nsf> it turns out I was wrong :D 17:56 < xyproto> nsf: what's krawl? 17:56 < xyproto> nsf: it's the name of the compiler? 17:56 < nsf> https://github.com/nsf/krawl 17:56 < nsf> yes 17:56 < nsf> C-like language with Go-like syntax 17:56 < xyproto> nsf: which language is it for? 17:56 < xyproto> nsf: I see. 17:56 < nsf> supports direct import of C headers 17:56 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.209.210.27.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:57 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-108-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:57 < xyproto> nsf: but, which need does it fill? *takign a look at github* 17:58 < nsf> well, I though it would be nice to have a better syntax for C, true modules, etc. 17:58 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-108-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:58 < nsf> I have overestimated the importance of all that (syntax and modules system) 17:58 -!- infynyxx [~infynyxx@cpe-24-90-223-14.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:58 < nsf> C works just fine 17:58 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.26.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59 < nsf> but other issues like safety aren't quite solvable in C 17:59 < nsf> memory safety mostly I mean 17:59 < nsf> and here comes the niche for another language 17:59 < nsf> but since Go is already there 17:59 < nsf> and D for example 17:59 -!- franciscosouza [~francisco@187.105.26.180] has joined #go-nuts 18:00 < nsf> it would be interesting to see more scripting languages like lua I guess 18:00 < nsf> that's my next target 18:00 < nsf> I want to try to make a VM + a simple scripting language 18:00 < nsf> not sure when it will happen though 18:00 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:02 < xyproto> Well, I think it all sounds interesting. Both languages that are compiled to native and those who are not. 18:02 -!- danilo04 [~danilo04@cpe-67-247-80-249.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:02 < nsf> what's interesting is that paradigms in programming are shifting 18:02 < xyproto> The nerd in me finds in fascinating, but the sceptic in me tries to find which need or purpose it could fill. 18:02 < nsf> we have these 2GHz 18:03 < nsf> and that's it basically 18:03 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:03 < nsf> we won't have more 18:03 < nsf> and C occupies that area 18:03 < xyproto> yes, but think about how many we can have :D 18:03 < nsf> of hardcore single threaded development 18:03 < xyproto> C doesn't occupie that 18:03 < xyproto> yes, agree 18:03 < nsf> but then we need to scale 18:03 < nsf> and that's a higher level problem 18:04 < nsf> so.. I don't know 18:04 < nsf> I see it like having a good scripting language (easilty embeddable with C and Go) is a good way to go 18:04 < nsf> for me 18:04 < xyproto> you're thinking, C is the best for the current situation anyhow, so a new language has to be radically kick-ass at future-proof (tm) stuff? 18:04 < nsf> easily* 18:05 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05 -!- TheMue [~FMueller@p5DDF77E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05 < nsf> C will be replaced with the x86 death 18:05 < nsf> I don't think it will happen any time soon 18:05 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:05 -!- tsung [~jon@203-73-6-91.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05 < nsf> anyways, my thoughs are kind of vague on this topic 18:05 < nsf> thoughts* 18:06 < xyproto> Well, there's already python and lua for easy embedding. And several functional programming languages that are future-friendly 18:06 < xyproto> And Javascript. 18:06 < nsf> xyproto: to be honest I don't like lua 18:06 < nsf> and I hate javascript 18:06 < nsf> :D 18:06 < nsf> I like some of their concepts though 18:06 < xyproto> coffeescript and embedded python instead, then? :) 18:07 < nsf> maybe 18:07 < nsf> I'll try something else 18:07 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07 < nsf> besides 18:07 < nsf> I'm interested in VMs development 18:07 < nsf> never did that before :D 18:07 < str1ngs> ewww 18:07 < str1ngs> :P 18:08 < str1ngs> try tinyvm 18:08 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:12 < nsf> ewww 18:12 < xyproto> there's also haxe+neko 18:12 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12 < nsf> java 18:12 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:12 < nsf> I'm sure theere is lots of VMs 18:12 < xyproto> nsf: what didn't you like about lua, btw? I don't like it either, but I can't find any good reason other than the "it's counting from 1 instead of 0" issue 18:13 < nsf> the lack of arrays 18:13 -!- tsung [~jon@175.180.141.57] has joined #go-nuts 18:13 < nsf> the lack of slicing ops 18:13 < nsf> the lack of integers and bit ops 18:13 < xyproto> nsf: it doesn't have arrays? I thought it had? 18:13 < xyproto> *checking* 18:13 < nsf> (lua uses floats for everything) 18:13 < nsf> it has tables 18:13 < nsf> which have special optimization for array-like data access 18:14 < nsf> lua 5.2 will have bitops lib built-in 18:14 < nsf> but it's still a lib 18:14 < xyproto> I see. What is wrong with tables instead of arrays, when you can still go a[2] = 3 ? 18:15 < nsf> because it's a table 18:15 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15 < xyproto> It's not like Lua tries to be blazingly fast (even though luajit isn't all that bad) 18:15 < nsf> it's a conceptual issue 18:15 < xyproto> well, in that case, I have conseptual issues with everything except the raw machinecode ;) 18:15 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:15 < nsf> I want something like squirrel but without OOP crap 18:15 < nsf> I like the way lua and javascript do classes 18:16 < nsf> e.g. with syntax sugar for dicts 18:16 < xyproto> nsf: javascript sounds like it will fit perfectly? :D 18:16 < nsf> but js has other issues :D 18:16 < xyproto> nsf: Which ones? >) 18:17 < nsf> semicolon insertion 18:17 < dmg> Is there a way to call cgo from a one-file "hello,world" type go program, or so I have to make it a separate package? 18:17 < xyproto> nsf: coffeescript then 18:17 < nsf> yeah, I know Go has that too 18:17 < nsf> but still 18:17 < dmg> s/call cgo/use cgo/ 18:17 < str1ngs> dmg: use a package. 18:17 < nsf> xyproto: listen, I'm not looking for a language that works 18:17 < nsf> I want to make a VM 18:17 < dmg> str1ngs: ok 18:17 < nsf> :D 18:17 < nsf> and a compiler 18:17 < xyproto> nsf: ok :) If there's a "like" or "+1" button for your VM, I'll click it. 18:17 < nsf> even if it will be useless as a result 18:18 < str1ngs> dmg: if you need to do some simple cgo stuff just use a test file. 18:18 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18 < dmg> I was hoping to create a tiny rdtsc() routine to count clock ticks 18:18 < str1ngs> dmg: then create a cmd package later 18:18 < xyproto> nsf: hey, same as with my c2go project :) 18:18 < nsf> sure 18:18 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:18 < nsf> I have bin2go 18:18 < nsf> lol 18:19 < nsf> https://github.com/nsf/bin2go 18:19 < nsf> :D 18:19 < dmg> I'm just playing around with some numerical algorithms and I want to test speed.. having to create a whole package for a routine which is literally one assembly instruction seems like overkill. 18:19 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19 < str1ngs> dmg: it not if you use foo_test.go to test it 18:19 < str1ngs> it's not* 18:19 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:19 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 18:20 < str1ngs> regardless its designed this way to decouple unsafe code from safe code. 18:20 < dmg> str1ngs: at the moment, in the C code I'm translating it closer to "ticks = rdtsc(); area = integrate(...); ticks = rdtsc() - ticks; " 18:20 < str1ngs> you should not really be using unsafe code in a cmd package. 18:21 < dmg> str1ngs: right, and since right now I'm just playing with code .. 18:21 < dmg> anyways, I'll make a tiny package. 18:21 < dmg> Does that need to be in its own directory? 18:22 < str1ngs> yes 18:22 < dmg> ok 18:22 < str1ngs> but like I said if you make a foo_test.go its really easy to test 18:22 < str1ngs> no need to make a cmd package to test it sorta thing 18:23 < dmg> ah, I see what you're saying. 18:23 < dmg> my numerical routines should be in a package, so I can play with them in the _test.go code. 18:23 < str1ngs> right 18:23 < dmg> where as for me, my default is to create a cmd package since that's how I'm used to coding. 18:23 < str1ngs> I even do my command packages this way 18:23 < dmg> and if it's useful, I'll move it into a library. 18:24 < str1ngs> aye but I find if you make a package. it forces you to focus on the api 18:24 < dmg> I just thought it was overkill 'cause like I said I'm just playing with some code. 18:24 < str1ngs> and the cmd package is much more easier to make. also all of your code is reusable.. for the most part 18:24 < dmg> this will never become production. 18:24 < dmg> or even used after today once I'm done playing with it. 18:25 < str1ngs> ah then _test is all you need 18:25 < dmg> yes 18:28 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-108-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-108-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:31 -!- goraes [~goraes@189.103.177.124] has joined #go-nuts 18:32 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:32 -!- TheMue [~FMueller@p5DDF77E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:33 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:34 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:54 < Ginto8> nsf, does gocode work with type switches? 18:55 < nsf> yes 18:55 < nsf> it works with most of the go stuff 18:56 < nsf> and type switches are in screencast quite frankly 18:56 < nsf> somewhere 18:56 < Ginto8> it doesn't seem to be working for me :P 18:56 < nsf> well, can you give me an example? 18:57 < nsf> for some reason I think it doesn't work for other reason 18:57 < nsf> :D 18:57 < nsf> or a bug 18:57 < nsf> that's possible too 18:57 < nsf> but type switch is a simple thing 18:58 < Ginto8> well I've got an image.Image (function parameter), and I'm doing a type switch, I did case image.ColorImage: then when I used it in the case, it wouldn't give me C as an option 18:58 < nsf> Ginto8: I understand, I can't say anything without the code 18:58 < nsf> maybe it fails to parse it due to unclosed brace or something 18:58 < nsf> I have no idea 18:59 < Ginto8> one sec, lemme get you a link 18:59 < nsf> see gocode/testing/test.0003 18:59 < nsf> and test.0004 18:59 < nsf> there are type switches and they work 19:00 -!- pyrhho [~pyrhho@027bf849.bb.sky.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:00 < nsf> plus gocode itself contains zillion of type switches 19:00 < nsf> and I was using gocode for gocode development a lot 19:00 < nsf> :) 19:00 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:02 < nsf> Ginto8: http://ompldr.org/vYTZxYQ/2011-09-04-010321_644x340_scrot.png 19:02 < nsf> see 19:02 < nsf> works for me just fine 19:03 < nsf> the reason why it fails (and it easily can) must be somewhere else 19:05 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has joined #go-nuts 19:05 -!- tmp_usr [~tmp_usr@c213-100-100-241.swipnet.se] has quit [Client Quit] 19:06 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:21 -!- jtux_ [~joerg@ip-78-94-89-50.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #go-nuts 19:27 -!- mikec007 [~textual@adsl-108-67-91-150.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:28 -!- KBme [~KBme@2001:470:cabe:666:666:666:666:666] has joined #go-nuts 19:28 -!- maarten_r [~maarten_r@gateway/tor-sasl/maartenr/x-33337056] has joined #go-nuts 19:28 < Ginto8> nsf, the issue was me doing the type switch wrong, forgot to assign it to a value :P 19:28 < nsf> thought so 19:28 < nsf> well, now you know how to do it right :) 19:29 -!- clr_ [~colin@2620:0:2820:2208:224:d7ff:fe3e:71b4] has joined #go-nuts 19:30 < mikec007> how is everyone doing today? 19:33 < maarten_r> i', fine 19:34 < maarten_r> i'M* 19:34 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:35 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:36 -!- jtux_ [~joerg@ip-78-94-89-50.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:44 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:44 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.26.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45 -!- alehorst [~alehorst@189.58.26.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 19:46 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:46 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@destiny.0wn.me] has joined #go-nuts 19:51 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:59 -!- wallerdev [~wallerdev@c-68-60-43-43.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wallerdev] 20:00 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@cpc2-gill2-0-0-cust701.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00 < Ginto8> what's the difference between image.RGBA and image.NRGBA? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:51 < jlaffaye> and the last release doesnt have -save :( 20:51 -!- snits_ [~snits@75-167-9-247.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:52 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-108-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:52 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:53 -!- TheSeeker2 [riiight@99-153-248-206.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:56 -!- TheSeeker [riiight@99-153-248-206.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56 -!- snits_ [~snits@75-167-9-247.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01 < str1ngs> use tip :P 21:05 -!- ww [~ww@river.styx.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 21:10 -!- ww [~ww@river.styx.org] has joined #go-nuts 21:18 -!- sebastianskejoe [~sebastian@56345e14.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:19 -!- ericvh [~Adium@cpe-72-177-122-77.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:22 -!- mikec007 [~textual@adsl-108-67-91-150.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has left #go-nuts ["Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"] 21:27 -!- pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-164-242.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:29 -!- AndrewBC [~andrewbc@scarlet.andrewbc.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:29 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-174-123.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:33 < AndrewBC> Whatever happened to $GOROOT/src/pkg/runtime/tiny ? 21:36 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:37 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.154.54] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:37 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.154.54] has joined #go-nuts 21:38 < ww> AndrewBC: it shrank into nonexistence? 21:38 < ww> i think it was abandoned, unfortunately 21:38 < AndrewBC> I guess so. I'm attempting to grep the hg log to see where it last existed 21:39 < str1ngs> hg log src/pkg/runtime/tiny 21:40 < str1ngs> will give will give more details 21:40 < AndrewBC> Oh shoot, that works for files that aren't in the current working tree? 21:40 < AndrewBC> that's nifty 21:40 < str1ngs> aye 21:40 < AndrewBC> thanks 21:40 < str1ngs> with git I would use git whatchanged 21:41 < str1ngs> but this is sort of the hg way .. I think 21:41 * AndrewBC nods 21:42 -!- aat [~aat@cpe-72-225-174-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:42 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:42 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:43 < AndrewBC> thank goodness for VCSes 21:46 -!- x44t [~xps@175.169.154.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-184-184-48.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:52 -!- avelino_ [~avelino@189.120.233.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55 -!- twolfe18 [~twolfe18@pool-96-236-148-109.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:58 -!- c00w [~colin@2620:0:2820:2208:224:d7ff:fe3e:71b4] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10 -!- twolfe18 [~twolfe18@pool-96-236-148-109.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: twolfe18] 22:13 -!- ericvh [~Adium@cpe-72-177-122-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:14 -!- chadkouse [~Adium@rrcs-74-218-87-242.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:17 -!- pyrhho [~pyrhho@027bf849.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:18 -!- clr_ [~colin@barh-243.dynamic.rpi.edu] has joined #go-nuts 22:19 -!- PJRobins [~kvirc@174-20-50-230.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:19 -!- homa_rano [~ede@30-51-226.dynamic.csail.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:21 -!- TheMue [~FMueller@p5DDF77E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:21 -!- homa_rano [~ede@30-51-226.dynamic.csail.mit.edu] has joined #go-nuts 22:25 -!- raylu [raylu@c-71-202-154-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:27 -!- huin [~huin@91.85.139.164] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:30 -!- dreadlorde [~dreadlord@c-68-42-82-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:36 -!- raylu [raylu@c-71-202-154-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:45 -!- remy_o [~babar@archlinux/developer/remy-o] has joined #go-nuts 22:46 -!- Sh4rK [sh4rk@53d82e19.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #go-nuts 22:46 < Sh4rK> hi nsf! 22:46 < nsf> hi 22:47 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-2-135-152.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #go-nuts 22:47 < Sh4rK> how hard would it be to convert gocode to be not-client-server based? 22:47 < nsf> 2 hours of work max 22:47 -!- rm445 [rm445@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:48 < vsmatck> haah 22:48 < nsf> Sh4rK: I use a custom RPC interface generator 22:48 < Sh4rK> I thought it would be easier :P 22:48 < vsmatck> I like the inequality of exactness in question/response. 22:48 < nsf> and even functions on the client and on the server match 22:48 < nsf> totally 22:48 < nsf> so, probably I can do that in 15 minutes actually 22:48 < nsf> but I say 2 hours 22:48 < nsf> because who knows 22:49 < Sh4rK> and if it would be that way, it would always complete slowly am I right? 22:49 < Sh4rK> that 200ms 22:49 < nsf> completion time with client/server architecture is 25-30ms 22:49 < nsf> on warm cache 22:50 < nsf> 200ms on cold cache 22:50 < nsf> which is the first use only 22:50 < nsf> so, I don't know 22:50 < Sh4rK> yeah 22:50 < Sh4rK> but if you take out the server 22:50 < Sh4rK> and have a single file 22:50 < Sh4rK> it would be always cold cache 22:50 < nsf> yes 22:50 < nsf> but who needs that 22:50 < nsf> :\ 22:50 < Sh4rK> me 22:51 < nsf> why? 22:51 < Sh4rK> because for some reason it doesn't work well in windows 22:51 -!- avelino [~avelino@unaffiliated/avelino] has joined #go-nuts 22:51 < Sh4rK> from python AND ruby 22:51 < nsf> tried -sock=tcp? 22:51 < nsf> last time I checked it 22:51 < nsf> it worked 22:51 < nsf> ah well 22:51 < nsf> tcp sockets are default on windows 22:52 < Sh4rK> why, what other can it use on windows? 22:52 < nsf> so it should work out of the box 22:52 < Sh4rK> yeah 22:52 < Sh4rK> so the problem is 22:52 < Sh4rK> when a script wants to complete the firest time 22:52 < Sh4rK> when the server is not runninf 22:52 < Sh4rK> *g 22:52 < Sh4rK> it never returns 22:52 < nsf> interesting 22:53 < Sh4rK> although the client exited 22:53 < Sh4rK> when I close the server it returns 22:53 < Sh4rK> I tried it with both run.py and run.rb in the testing folder 22:54 < Sh4rK> and it isn't nice to launch the server manually before you want to use it 22:54 < nsf> I guess something is wrong with something 22:54 < nsf> :D 22:54 < nsf> I have no idea 22:54 < Sh4rK> probably :P 22:54 < Sh4rK> I investigated the python side 22:54 < Sh4rK> and nothing worked 22:54 < nsf> no, it's not these scripts 22:55 < nsf> they are stupid 22:55 < nsf> they just run gocode 22:55 < nsf> and that's all 22:55 < Sh4rK> and the fact that it's the same in ruby 22:55 < Sh4rK> yeah 22:55 < Sh4rK> so I think the process creation implementation of go in windows 22:55 < Sh4rK> is the one that's causing it 22:55 < nsf> yes, I guess it doesn't get detached correctly or something 22:56 -!- c00w [~colin@barh-243.dynamic.rpi.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:56 < Sh4rK> so, that's why I need a serverless one :) 22:56 < nsf> hm 22:56 < nsf> there is this field 22:56 < nsf> SysProcAttr 22:56 < Sh4rK> yeah 22:56 < nsf> OS specific attributes 22:56 < Sh4rK> I found no documentation on it 22:56 < Sh4rK> at all 22:56 < Sh4rK> of what can it be 22:58 < Sh4rK> I found it in sources 22:58 < Sh4rK> it's nothing interesting 22:58 < Sh4rK> type SysProcAttr struct { 22:58 < Sh4rK> HideWindow bool 22:58 < Sh4rK> CmdLine string // used if non-empty, else the windows command line is built by escaping the arguments passed to StartProcess 22:58 < Sh4rK> } 23:00 < nsf> yes 23:00 < Sh4rK> now I'm looking at the actual process running code 23:00 < Sh4rK> if I can make it beter 23:01 < Sh4rK> s/better/more suitable for my problem/ 23:03 < nsf> well, there is a flag 23:03 < nsf> in CreateProcess 23:04 < nsf> DETACHED_PROCESS 23:04 < nsf> but the meaning is slightly different 23:04 < nsf> some sources say all windows processes are detached from their parent 23:04 < Sh4rK> That's what I'm thinking too 23:04 < Sh4rK> to some extent 23:05 < Sh4rK> they have some kind of hierarchy 23:05 -!- remy_o [~babar@archlinux/developer/remy-o] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:06 -!- franksalim [~frank@157.22.42.3] has joined #go-nuts 23:06 < nsf> well, all I can say, I will try it on windows sometime in future 23:06 < nsf> not sure when 23:07 < nsf> I mean I will try something 23:07 < nsf> :D 23:07 < nsf> because guessing is no good 23:07 < Sh4rK> ok ::D 23:07 < Sh4rK> I'm trying too 23:07 < Sh4rK> if I find out something I'll let you know 23:08 < nsf> k 23:08 < nsf> also feel free to open an issue on the github 23:16 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@h-170-226.a212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:17 -!- NiteRain [~NiteRain@c-98-254-236-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:20 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 23:20 < Sh4rK> ARRGH! 23:23 < qeed> i have a array of stuff is there anyway to range over the array where the values become the pointer at that place rather than the value? 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