--- Log opened Wed Nov 24 00:00:19 2010 00:01 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 00:03 -!- Scorchin [~Scorchin@host86-135-215-25.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Scorchin] 00:08 * TheSeeker pokes gomingw "it has been 20 minutes already!" :P 00:10 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:15 -!- n3xt [~n3@41.137.63.132] has joined #go-nuts 00:16 -!- n3xt [~n3@41.137.63.132] has left #go-nuts [] 00:17 -!- prip [~foo@host214-83-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:17 -!- tvw [~tv@e176001007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20 -!- kanru [~kanru@114-45-232-142.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:28 -!- prip [~foo@host55-194-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 00:39 -!- ExtraSpice [~XtraSpice@88.118.33.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49 < plexdev> http://is.gd/hFExG by [Alex Brainman] in go/src/pkg/runtime/windows/ -- runtime: fix SysFree to really free memory on Windows 01:19 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 01:21 -!- Tv [~tv@gige.bur.digisynd.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:35 -!- htoothrot [~mux@66-169-185-121.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:37 -!- Nitro [~Nitro@modemcable105.5-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #go-nuts 01:41 -!- htoothrot [~mux@66-169-185-121.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:48 -!- nighty__ [~nighty@210.188.173.245] has joined #go-nuts 01:50 -!- thomas_b_ [~thomasb@cm-84.215.47.51.getinternet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:01 -!- caffeineborg [~caffeineb@75-145-116-116-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #go-nuts [] 02:04 -!- fenicks [~christian@log77-3-82-243-254-112.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:07 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 02:15 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@189-10-175-46.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:37 -!- thomas_b [~thomasb@cm-84.215.47.51.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 02:41 -!- slp9 [~sl@68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:43 -!- sl [~stanleyli@68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 -!- molex731 [~michael.b@c-71-58-154-49.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:00 < molex731> hello 03:03 -!- molex731 [~michael.b@c-71-58-154-49.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 03:13 -!- sl [~stanleyli@68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:21 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 03:34 -!- slp9 [~sl@68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:08 -!- krutcha [~krutcha@S010600045a27676a.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:31 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:34 -!- SirPsychoS [~sp@cpe-174-103-151-189.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 04:36 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:50 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:57 -!- SirPsychoS [~sp@cpe-174-103-151-189.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:01 -!- viirya [~viirya@cml506-25.csie.ntu.edu.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01 -!- viirya [~viirya@cml506-25.csie.ntu.edu.tw] has joined #go-nuts 05:03 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: (◣_◢) BigBrowser is watching ⓎⓄⓊ] 05:19 -!- bjarneh [~bjarneh@1x-193-157-198-174.uio.no] has joined #go-nuts 05:22 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:24 -!- SirPsychoS [~sp@cpe-174-103-151-189.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 05:59 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #go-nuts 06:02 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:10 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has joined #go-nuts 06:16 -!- tensorpudding [~user@99.148.202.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33 -!- res99 [~anonymous@201.237.130.70] has joined #go-nuts 06:36 -!- res99 [~anonymous@201.237.130.70] has quit [Client Quit] 06:41 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:41 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has joined #go-nuts 06:46 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:48 -!- fuzzybyte [~fuzzybyte@77.79.7.8] has joined #go-nuts 07:00 -!- noktoborus_ [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has quit [Quit: noktoborus_] 07:22 -!- Cobi [~Cobi@2002:1828:88fb:0:aede:48ff:febe:ef03] has joined #go-nuts 07:27 < anticw> iant: up? 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I don't know, but I think write() is not 'attomic' in that sense in any OS 13:26 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.231] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:26 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 13:28 -!- Nitro [~Nitro@142.137.220.57] has joined #go-nuts 13:28 < wrtp> "attomic" isn't a word 13:29 < wrtp> i thought it was usual for write to be atomic under unix 13:29 < wrtp> it is under plan 9, for example (as long as len buf < atomic io size) 13:34 < Namegduf> Even with network filesystems? 13:35 < Namegduf> Hmm, this thing suggests that write() should be for small amounts... 13:37 < wrtp> Namegduf: try this program: http://pastebin.com/hh7BF6GE 13:37 < wrtp> it should strictly alternate x lines and y lines, but they get mixed up for me 13:38 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: peace in teh middle east] 13:41 < wrtp> i'd be interested if anyone else could try it too. 13:43 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has joined #go-nuts 13:44 < exch> wrtp: it doesn't alternate on arch linux 13:44 < wrtp> exch: is that writing to a tty, or to a file? 13:45 < exch> tty 13:45 < wrtp> oh, i didn't really mean "strictly alternate" at all 13:45 < exch> Im not sure what you mean by alternate though.. You get lines mixed together? 13:45 < wrtp> i meant that every line should be the same length 13:45 < exch> ah 13:45 < exch> that does happen 13:45 < wrtp> and each line should consist either of all x's or all y's 13:45 < exch> all lines are either xxxx or yyyy and all equal length 13:46 < wrtp> i get this: http://pastebin.com/c2FcAkZz 13:48 < wrtp> :-( 13:50 < wrtp> it's ok really, it's easy to work around 13:52 -!- _DerHorst_ [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 13:52 < Rainburst> What will be the difference, if you use println? 13:52 < wrtp> no difference 13:52 < wrtp> i don't think 13:52 < wrtp> i'll just check 13:53 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54 < zzz> write() is atomic if the size is <= PIPE_BUF bytes (see http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/write.html) 13:54 -!- vegai [vegai@archlinux/developer/vegai] has joined #go-nuts 13:54 < wrtp> i get similarly non-atomic writes (only with GOMAXPROCS > 1 though, as println doesn't yield) 13:54 < vegai> hey 13:54 < wrtp> zzz: ok, so mac os is broken 13:54 < vegai> wasn't there a webpage with graphs of different versions and their test suite runtimes? 13:54 < wrtp> surprise 13:55 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:56 -!- Rainburst [~Rainburst@46.0.47.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57 -!- Rainburst [~Rainburst@46.0.47.67] has joined #go-nuts 13:59 -!- _DerHorst_ [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has joined #go-nuts 14:02 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-diwtqmofwynlibdf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:05 < Rainburst> http://pastebin.com/CurBYzhD try this please. I have no unix-os-computer right now. golang.org result is all loop1, then all loop2 14:10 < nsf> Rainburst: actually it should be all loop2 and then all loop1 imho 14:10 < wrtp> nsf: it's undefined 14:10 < nsf> I'm taking into account the current scheduler implementation 14:11 < nsf> Rainburst: anyways, the scheduler is not preemptive, it is cooperative 14:11 < nsf> it means that goroutine gets scheduled only when you do some kind of communication 14:12 < nsf> the biggest problem here that this is a subject to change I believe 14:12 < nsf> and you can't rely on that fact 14:13 < wrtp> nsf: it doesn't matter - it's all non-deterministic - your program shouldn't rely on scheduler behaviour 14:13 < Rainburst> ok, i'll spend a lot of time with the dictionary to understand, what have you said =) 14:14 < wrtp> Rainburst: there's no difference with your code 14:14 < Rainburst> runtime.GOMAXPROCS(smth) 14:14 < Rainburst> i think it may help, but it doesn't work in playground 14:15 < nsf> Rainburst: your IP is russian as far as I can see, I can explain the same stuff in russian if you want :) 14:15 < Rainburst> It will be great))) 14:15 < nsf> in private.. 14:16 < wrtp> Rainburst: GOMAXPROCS shouldn't make a difference to atomicity of writes 14:17 -!- Guest517 [~Rainburst@46.0.47.67] has joined #go-nuts 14:17 -!- Rainburst [~Rainburst@46.0.47.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17 < nsf> great.. 14:17 < nsf> :( 14:17 < Guest517> my router drives me insane 14:17 < nsf> :) 14:23 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has joined #go-nuts 14:29 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:29 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@HSI-KBW-109-193-120-162.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #go-nuts 14:29 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@HSI-KBW-109-193-120-162.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:29 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 14:39 -!- sauerbraten [~sauerbrat@p508CCFB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:41 -!- meanburrito920 [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:51 -!- wrtp [~rog@92.17.87.132] has quit [Quit: wrtp] 14:53 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:56 -!- TheSaint [~thesaint@166.205.10.111] has joined #go-nuts 14:58 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 15:04 -!- artefon [~thiago@dhcp3.usuarios.dcc.ufmg.br] has joined #go-nuts 15:05 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:06 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 15:08 -!- sxs [~sxs@HSI-KBW-078-042-201-030.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: sxs] 15:08 -!- felipe [~felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:09 -!- noktoborus [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:16 -!- zzz [3a72cb23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.114.203.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:16 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: homa_rano, vegai, cco3-hampster, XenoPhoenix 15:17 -!- ShadowIce` [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 15:17 < nsf> http://groups.google.com/group/golang-dev/browse_thread/thread/98ca27839732c492 15:17 < nsf> great 15:18 -!- TheSaint [~thesaint@166.205.10.111] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 15:18 < nsf> it will make it much easier to write end user apps in go 15:19 < nsf> "and then next week I will be working on the garbage collector" 15:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: vegai, homa_rano, XenoPhoenix, cco3-hampster 15:19 < nsf> and this is nice too :) 15:19 -!- felipe [~felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #go-nuts 15:20 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:21 -!- RCua [~cua@unaffiliated/coconutcrab] has joined #go-nuts 15:26 -!- noktoborus__ [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has joined #go-nuts 15:28 -!- noktoborus [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has quit [Client Quit] 15:31 -!- noktoborus [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has joined #go-nuts 15:32 < exch> nice 15:46 -!- mbohun [~user@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:49 -!- RCua [~cua@unaffiliated/coconutcrab] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:54 -!- kanru [~kanru@114-45-232-142.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:59 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #go-nuts 16:10 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:11 -!- rejb [~rejb@unaffiliated/rejb] has joined #go-nuts 16:16 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:22 -!- alexis [~alexis@lolnet.org] has joined #go-nuts 16:22 -!- Nitro [~Nitro@142.137.220.57] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:22 < alexis> hi here ! 16:24 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #go-nuts 16:24 < alexis> I'm currently going trough the go tutorial, and at the very beginning, I can't find the gccgo compiler while installing from the last hg head 16:25 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@HSI-KBW-109-193-120-162.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:25 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@HSI-KBW-109-193-120-162.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Changing host] 16:25 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 16:25 < alexis> I'm wondering if it's normal 16:26 -!- d_m [d6@SDF.ORG] has joined #go-nuts 16:27 -!- ShadowIce` [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:27 -!- ShadowIce` [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 16:30 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:37 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has joined #go-nuts 16:37 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has left #go-nuts [] 16:38 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:38 < alexis> anyone ? 16:38 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has joined #go-nuts 16:38 < mpl> fwiw, I don't have it either. just noticed as I had never needed it. 16:39 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 16:39 < mpl> alexis: it's been integrated to gcc4.6 btw, but dunno how it is provided by the go source. 16:44 -!- Nitro [~Nitro@142.137.220.57] has joined #go-nuts 16:45 -!- Nitro [~Nitro@142.137.220.57] has quit [Client Quit] 16:50 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has joined #go-nuts 16:50 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 16:51 < dho> It is not 16:51 < dho> gccgo is a separate project that is also worked on by the go team 16:51 < dho> it was historically done in a branch, but it's now part of gcc. 16:51 < alexis> mpl: ah okay, didnt understood that. maybe should it be specified on the intro. doc ? 16:53 < mpl> alexis: well, go on and propose the change to the mailing-list, or even submit the change yourself for review. 16:53 < mpl> thx dho, good to know. 16:53 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-93-96.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #go-nuts 16:53 < alexis> mpl. okay, will do. 16:54 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-oszemvikbqshadac] has joined #go-nuts 16:55 -!- Maxdamantus [~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:01 -!- krutcha [~krutcha@S010600045a27676a.vs.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08 -!- gmilleramilar [~gmiller@184-106-207-119.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:08 < dho> and by "by the go team" I mean iant. 17:09 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09 < gmilleramilar> what do people suggest to use for a simple persistent key-value store in Go? 17:13 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.231] has joined #go-nuts 17:13 < dho> I'm pretty sure there are drivers for all of mongo, redis, and memcached 17:16 < mpl> it might be overkill but there's sqlite as well. 17:26 < gmilleramilar> yeah, sqlite might work. Does anybody know if there's a wrapper for bdb? 17:29 < gmilleramilar> I guess redis is pretty close to bdb for this application. 17:29 < alexis> oh, retrevield seems to be of a great help for the reviewing process. 17:30 * alexis likes to do that using an hg ext :) 17:32 < alexis> Rietveld* 17:40 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-197-196-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:43 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:46 -!- tensorpudding [~user@99.148.202.191] has joined #go-nuts 17:49 -!- krutcha [~krutcha@remote.icron.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:53 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:54 -!- TheMue [~TheMue@p5DDF7F55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:56 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:00 -!- artefon [~thiago@dhcp3.usuarios.dcc.ufmg.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12 -!- g0bl1n [~g0blin@a213-22-18-58.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: g0bl1n] 18:19 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-93-96.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 18:23 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:25 < krutcha> is go-gtk the way to go for a graphical UI at the moment? 18:25 -!- Tv [~tv@gige.bur.digisynd.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:26 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:28 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:30 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.231] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:33 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:37 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has joined #go-nuts 18:38 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.133.191] has joined #go-nuts 18:43 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:43 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-oszemvikbqshadac] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:44 -!- enferex [~enferex@users.757.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:47 -!- rbraley [~rbraley@ip72-222-129-34.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:50 -!- rbraley [~rbraley@ip72-222-129-34.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:58 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-197-196-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:59 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:12 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:12 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:13 -!- bjarneh [~bjarneh@1x-193-157-198-174.uio.no] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:23 -!- rutkowski [~adrian@078088207033.walbrzych.vectranet.pl] has joined #go-nuts 19:27 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 19:33 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:34 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has quit [Quit: plainhao] 19:35 < uriel> krutcha: depends on the kind of graphical UI you want 19:35 < uriel> krutcha: there are also some fltk bindings 19:35 < uriel> but probably the go-gtk are probably the most mature bindings 19:36 < uriel> i think there are people using them even on windows 19:37 < alexis> nice to know :) 19:37 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #go-nuts 19:43 < krutcha> uriel: ty for the heads up on fltk, honestly I'd probably favor that for simplicity 19:43 < nsf> fltk is dead, too simple and written in C++ 19:44 < uriel> http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings is your friend 19:44 < nsf> tk bindings would be nice, but currently go-gtk is the best choice 19:46 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 19:48 < krutcha> is it dead as in no longer maintained? or just dead in go's eyes because it's in C++? 19:49 < nsf> it's not about bindings 19:49 < nsf> it's about fltk itself 19:50 < nsf> the project is tasteless 19:50 < nsf> my personal opinion :) 19:50 < pingveno> I just realized that an issue that I requested sorta-kinda broke misc/dashboard/googlecode_upload.py on every Linux distro except Arch Linux. Is there a way to reopen the bug? I'm not seeing the ling. 19:50 < pingveno> link* 19:51 < pingveno> Or should I just fine a new bug? 19:51 < dho> did it break it on other operating systems as well? :P 19:52 < dho> I'd file a new issue. if you can't find it. 19:52 < krutcha> nsf: :P ic. Well in my case I have a simple go client app that's coming along and I wanted to experiment with linking in a gui framework's callbacks/binding requirements purely for experimentation with go. So the most "popular in go" approach would be favored 19:52 -!- fhs [~fhs@pool-74-101-63-115.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 < exch> pingveno: arch linux recently moved to Python 3 as the standard python environment. Is it possible that the script is not propler compatible with 3.x? 19:52 < exch> s/propler/properly 19:53 < nsf> krutcha: well you can try both then and see what's best 19:54 -!- emjayess [~emjayess@pix1.i29.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:54 < krutcha> nsf: yeah I think switching more than one in would be the best way to ensure the underlying client package is robust, if it's not too much headache I'll implement examples of the *currently text* sample client in as many gui's as possible 19:55 < pingveno> Sorry, went AFK. The bug was specifically for any distro that symlinks /usr/bin/python to python3.x 19:55 < pingveno> And by any distro, I mean Arch 19:56 < pingveno> I didn't realize that the python2 symlink doesn't exist by default on other distros, though a /usr/bin/python2 somehow showed up on my Ubuntu install. 19:57 < pingveno> So, yeah, the change needs to be reversed. 19:59 < pingveno> The script that was changed is misc/dashboard/googlecode_upload.py 20:02 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:04 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05 -!- noam [noam@77.126.175.215] has joined #go-nuts 20:05 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.231] has joined #go-nuts 20:10 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:11 -!- pingveno [~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:16 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-zafduvyiljdaavwq] has joined #go-nuts 20:16 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 20:17 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:18 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19 -!- Maxdamantus [~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:21 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:23 -!- lmoura_ [~lauromour@187.112.10.101] has joined #go-nuts 20:23 -!- cmarcelo_ [~cmarcelo@187.112.10.101] has joined #go-nuts 20:24 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:26 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.113.114.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:27 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@enlightenment/developer/cmarcelo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:28 -!- enherit [~enherit@cpe-98-149-170-48.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:33 -!- tav [~tav@92.7.139.37] has quit [Quit: Hakuna Matata] 20:35 -!- tav [~tav@92.7.139.37] has joined #go-nuts 20:50 < uriel> 19:56 < pingveno> I didn't realize that the python2 symlink doesn't exist by default on other distros, 20:50 < uriel> duh! 20:50 < uriel> I think we went over this months ago, arch is just totally broken and retarded 20:52 < exch> because it decided to switch to python 3? 21:14 < dho> because uriel said so 21:15 -!- Tv [~tv@gige.bur.digisynd.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:16 -!- lmoura_ [~lauromour@187.112.10.101] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@187.112.10.101] has joined #go-nuts 21:24 -!- Tuller [~tuller@c-69-143-52-174.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:27 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #go-nuts 21:30 -!- pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-219-180.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:33 -!- pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-219-180.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-219-43.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:33 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-219-180.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:33 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.231] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:37 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:37 < uriel> exch: because it decided to name python3 /usr/bin/python 21:37 < uriel> could just as well replace /usr/bin/perl with /usr/bin/python 21:42 -!- boscop_ [~boscop@f055104121.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 21:44 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055200081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:45 < exch> That seems like a rather poor reason to call it 'totally broken and retarded'. There's a good reason why they did that. I can understand if you don't really agree with Arch's phylosophy, but that to is hardly an excuse. 21:50 -!- DrHennessy [~alex@c-24-10-221-165.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:55 -!- tvw [~tv@e176005109.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 21:57 -!- rutkowski [~adrian@078088207033.walbrzych.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev] 22:01 -!- SirPsychoS [~sp@cpe-174-103-151-189.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:02 -!- TheMue [~TheMue@p5DDF7F55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: TheMue] 22:09 < emjayess> Hi e'rybody. I just completed the codelab wiki (http://golang.org/doc/codelab/wiki/) 22:09 < emjayess> Go is pretty cool. that is all. kthxbai 22:09 < anticw> exch: python3 is somewhat different to other versions of python ... a lot of existing (not legacy) assume /usr/bin/python is something 2.4-2.7 ish 22:10 < anticw> py3 isn't widely used ... and probably won't be for some time 22:14 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:18 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.133.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.133.191] has joined #go-nuts 22:23 -!- photron_ [~photron@port-92-201-1-56.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:24 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@5634798d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. Desu~] 22:29 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30 -!- ExtraSpice [~XtraSpice@88.118.33.48] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32 -!- emjayess [~emjayess@pix1.i29.net] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 22:56 < uriel> exch: there is absolutely no good reason to break every python script in the world 22:56 < uriel> artefon: even if python3 was widely used, it is a different language 22:57 < uriel> er, sorry, s/ artefon/ anticw/ 22:57 -!- Rezzie [561b1b1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.27.27.30] has joined #go-nuts 22:57 < uriel> but anyway, we have gone over this before 22:58 < Rezzie> Is there a power operator in Go? I can see pow(x, y float64) - but I have two int64 I'd like to do. 22:59 < uriel> Rezzie: not afaik, but should be trivial enough to write your own I think 23:00 < TheSeeker> My udp echo program works now in windows. yay :) 23:01 -!- ShadowIce` [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:01 < Rezzie> uriel: Thanks. There's nothing in the standard libraries for integer powers? Is that operation not common enough to warrant adding it into the language/standard library? :/ 23:03 < uriel> seems so, can't say for sure because I have not had need for it so I haven't looked too closely 23:03 < uriel> you could also convert the ints to float, and then back 23:03 < uriel> it all depends how perf essential the calculation is, what are you trying to do? 23:05 < Rezzie> Get familiar with the language by running through some of the project Euler questions :) 23:06 -!- virtualsue [~chatzilla@nat/cisco/x-zafduvyiljdaavwq] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.15/20101026200251]] 23:09 < anticw> exch: i was agreeing with you 23:14 -!- noktoborus [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15 -!- noktoborus [~noxless@gateway/tor-sasl/noktoborus] has joined #go-nuts 23:26 -!- DrHennessy [~alex@c-24-10-221-165.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: DrHennessy] 23:28 -!- Rezzie [561b1b1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.27.27.30] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:30 -!- kanru [~kanru@114-45-232-142.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:30 -!- thiago__ [~thiago@189.59.133.191] has joined #go-nuts 23:31 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.133.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36 -!- iant [~iant@216.239.45.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:53 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 23:54 -!- rhencke [~rhencke@ppp-70-247-243-221.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:56 < rhencke> anyone ever had go blow up in runtime.morestack? 23:59 -!- Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] has quit [Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish] --- Log closed Thu Nov 25 00:00:19 2010