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00:04 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ZpAGyE by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/cgo/ --
cgo: rename internal f to avoid conflict with possible C global named f
00:04 < plexdev> http://is.gd/WVr1fo by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ --
Getting Started guide: update for new versions of Mercurial
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01:09 < Eridius> anyone have any experience debugging a Go program?
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01:09 < Eridius> I just installed GDB 7 to be able to get backtraces, but
all I see are runtime methods.  There's a frame in here which has no debug info at
all, which I assume is the frame I'm actually interested in.  Why doesn't it have
debug info?
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01:14 < Eridius> well that's bizarre.  My problem was an
accidentally-recursive function
01:14 < Eridius> yet the stack trace I was seeing was go trying to grow the
stack
01:15 < Eridius> with only a single unknown frame, instead of the expected
hundreds of identical frames
01:15 < Namegduf> That will probably be where it crashed.
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01:15 < Namegduf> Growing the stack running it out of memory.
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01:15 < Eridius> right, but why didn't it have hundreds/thousands of
identical frames from the recursion?
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01:15 < Namegduf> I've noticed that if I stop the debugger in my code, it's
okay, but if it's called into the scheduler, everything outside the runtime is
missing.
01:16 < Namegduf> Replaced by a single unknown frame.
01:16 < Namegduf> Could be related.
01:17 < Eridius> huh
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01:51 < plexdev> http://is.gd/qXhyMo by [Hector Chu] in go/src/pkg/syscall/
-- windows: syscall: Make ForkExec acquire the ForkLock
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03:07 < adu> hi all
03:08 < adu> just wanted to announce an update
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03:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/NCwfdn by [Eoghan Sherry] in 3 subdirs of go/
-- gc: correct rounding of denormal constants
03:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/A52KNG by [Gustavo Niemeyer] in go/src/ --
cgo: fix _cgo_run timestamp file order
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03:42 < dlin> I'm trying to porting my socket server program into go, anyone
can guide me?
03:50 < CrazyThinker> dlin, just ask
03:51 < adu> dlin: put the lime in the coconut
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03:55 < plexdev> http://is.gd/eFBal4 by [Yasuhiro Matsumoto] in
go/lib/codereview/ -- codereview: fix hgpatch on windows
03:55 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iTxd39 by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- windows: fix build?
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04:12 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iWIG02 by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime: faster allocator, garbage collector
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05:44 < plexdev> http://is.gd/CYNjCT by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- A+C: add
Christopher Nielsen (individual CLA)
05:44 < plexdev> http://is.gd/SgIEaN by [Christopher Nielsen] in 2 subdirs
of go/src/ -- build: fix spaces in GOROOT
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08:19 < adu> wow
08:19 < adu> when did send statements get added?
08:21 < aiju> eh haven't those been there for a long time?
08:23 < adu> no
08:23 < adu> send expressions have
08:24 < adu> send statements are new
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08:28 < adu> AH OK, <- is no longer an operator
08:28 < adu> now i see
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08:34 < adu> aiju: in GoSpec 2010-Nov-4, (<-) is listed under
"Expressions", "Communication operators" and in GoSpec 2011-Feb-1 it is listed
under "Statements", "Send statements"
08:35 < adu> thank you whoever puts the dates on there :)
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10:33 < bXi> good day :)
10:33 < bXi> how would i "include" a file that contains a bunch of
frequently used functions?
10:35 < aiju> not at all
10:35 < aiju> you just pass it to the compiler
10:35 < Ina> bXi, by either making it a part of the same package OR by
putting it into a same package and importing that packahe
10:35 < Ina> package *
10:36 < bXi> so i would create a 2nd file with my functions and the same
pacakge as my main file
10:37 < Ina> and then you'd go '8g file1.go file2.g0' (or whichever variant
of *g you use)
10:38 < Ina> file2.go *
10:39 < bXi> or when using a proper Makefile prepend it to GOFILES
10:39 < Ina> Ayup
10:39 < bXi> well thats bloody easy
10:40 < Ina> Indeed.
10:40 < bXi> the more i know the easier this language becomes
10:40 < bXi> does the package have to be main?  or can i use whichever name
i choose to
10:40 < aiju> there is one main package
10:40 < bXi> (every single example i've seen uses main)
10:41 < aiju> the main package contains the main function
10:41 < aiju> bXi: do you know C?
10:41 < Ina> Use 'main' for applications, and something else for libraries
10:42 < bXi> aiju: i know C. C just doesnt know me :p
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10:42 < aiju> bXi: well, just like you have a main function in C, you have a
main.main function in Go
10:44 < bXi> right
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10:45 < bXi> also about maps
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10:46 < bXi> if i were to create a map[int]string (don't know if its
possible)
10:46 < bXi> does it mean i have a map full of strings indexed by ints
10:47 < aiju> yeah
10:47 < aiju> don't forget to make it :P
10:48 < bXi> could i go crazy and do map[interface{}]int ?
10:49 < bXi> (not sure why i would want to do that)
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11:02 < aiju> bXi: yeah
11:04 < aiju> bXi: i suppose bad things happen if you change keys
11:05 < aiju> so don't do that, then
11:05 < wrtp> aiju: you can't change keys
11:06 < wrtp> comparison on interfaces is only defined for comparable types.
11:06 < wrtp> so interface{}([]int{}) == interface{}([]int{}) will panic
11:07 < wrtp> but maps of interfaces are really useful.  particularly the
fact that different types always compare unequal, even if their contents are the
same
11:08 < wrtp> e.g.  type A bool; type B bool; x :=
make(map[interface{}]int); x[A(false)] = 99; print(B(false))
11:08 < wrtp> prints 0
11:08 < wrtp> oops that should be print(x[B(false)])
11:09 < aiju> there really is no way to change keys?
11:10 < bXi> yeah i wouldnt do that
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11:10 < bXi> but it was to confirm my understanding of the map type
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11:11 < aiju> uh this is possible
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11:12 < aiju> magic
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11:12 < aiju> http://pastie.org/1524550
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11:14 < aiju> how are maps compared?
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11:25 < wrtp> aiju: that's not changing keys
11:25 < wrtp> maps are compared by identity, not contents
11:26 < wrtp> there really is no way to change keys
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13:10 < debill_> why godoc so fat by memori?
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13:10 < debill_> when daemon
13:10 < wrtp> debill_: it does a lot of in-memory indexing
13:11 < wrtp> (by default it keeps a full-text index of the entire go source
tree)
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13:13 < debill_> and why when i just type something in searchbox it eat 20
MB mem and if i would enter same query it eat memori again?
13:14 < debill_> and garbage collector does not seem to be work
13:14 < debill_> infinitely eat memory
13:14 < wrtp> are you looking at real memory or virtual memory?
13:15 < debill_> gnome-terminal
13:15 < debill_> i dont know
13:15 < wrtp> i doubt it infinitely eats memory otherwise the server at
golang.org would run out of memory, and it does not.
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13:15 < debill_> *gnome-system-monitor
13:15 < wrtp> how are you finding out the memory usage?
13:15 < debill_> i doubt it infinitely eats memory otherwise the server at
golang.org would run out of memory, and it does not.
13:15 < debill_> ya
13:16 < debill_> i wonder too
13:16 < wrtp> if you keep on typing the same query, it will not keep using
memory.  memory usage will go up to a certain level and stay there.
13:16 < wrtp> what architecture are you compiling with (amd64 or 386?)
13:16 < debill_> 386
13:16 < wrtp> ah.  that may be a problem actually.
13:17 < debill_> i think same
13:17 < wrtp> the GC is conservative, and the address space on 386 is small
enough that you can get aliasing
13:17 < wrtp> are you on a 64 bit machine?
13:17 < debill_> no
13:19 < wrtp> i doubt that memory usage will keep going up.
13:20 < wrtp> it just uses a lot of memory - but not infinite!
13:20 < debill_> it eat few memory when im just serf in go doc ...  at the
same pages
13:21 < wrtp> and keeps on going up every time?
13:21 < wrtp> how many times have you tried it?
13:21 < debill_> yes
13:21 < debill_> litle
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13:22 < wrtp> if it's still going up after 30 tries, i might start to be
concerned
13:22 < debill_> the same thin in gtkgo apps
13:22 < debill_> with all daemon
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13:22 < debill_> s
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13:24 < KBme> my app has been running for a week now, it's still not eating
more memory than at the start
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13:25 < wrtp> debill_: how about you start godoc, and have a shell loop that
does ps alxw | grep godoc every 30 seconds.
13:25 < wrtp> then run it for 8 hours or so and see what the results are
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13:26 < wrtp> if you're right, the memory will keep on going up all the time
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13:29 < KBme> mine is at 160Mb
13:29 < KBme> it's been running for like a month now
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13:31 < debill_> ok i would trie
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14:20 < skelterjohn> morning
14:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/B4ws1S by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/cipher/ -- crypto/cipher: add resync open to OCFB mode.
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14:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/06ifVy by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/openpgp/armor/ -- crypto/openpgp/armor: bug fixes
14:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/0pR0t2 by [Adam Langley] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/openpgp/packet/ -- crypto/openpgp/packet: add basic routines
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17:58 < Guest21891> Hi guys.  Just wanted to get info for some survey that I
am doing.  Are there any major adoption of Go lang lately?  Any examples?
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18:22 < erus_> skelterjohn: check out my ray tracer on my github :)
18:23 < skelterjohn> it will work on os x?
18:23 < skelterjohn> and certainly, gimme a sec to finish something up
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18:28 < erus_> should work on osx...
18:33 < skelterjohn> alright, i'll check it out now
18:34 < skelterjohn> do i only need the tracer project?
18:35 < skelterjohn> no, i need s3dm :)
18:35 < skelterjohn> you should import "github.com/tm1rbrt/s3dm" instead of
"s3dm", so it can work nicely with goinstall
18:36 < erus_> ok
18:36 < erus_> i cant do that on windows yet i think
18:36 < skelterjohn> why is that?
18:36 < skelterjohn> and i built everything easily (with gb), but when i run
the tracer executable nothing happens
18:36 < erus_> goinstall doesnt work on windows last i checked
18:36 < skelterjohn> really?  it's a pure go program
18:37 < erus_> there should be a png image
18:37 < erus_> in the cd
18:37 < skelterjohn> ah - yes it's there, but it seems to be corrupt
18:37 < skelterjohn> :(
18:37 < erus_> ah damn
18:37 < erus_> something todo with the permissions i think
18:38 < skelterjohn> what happens when you try to run goinstall?
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18:39 < erus_> skelterjohn: change line 72 in tracer.go if you get time.  it
need to be O_CREATE | O_RWD or something
18:39 < skelterjohn> sure
18:39 < skelterjohn> i'm not busy right now
18:40 < erus_> my script fails now since you added documentation :O
18:40 < skelterjohn> line 72 of tracer.go is blank...and i don't see an
appropriate place to do it
18:40 < skelterjohn> erus_: :s
18:41 < erus_> i mean scene.go sorry
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18:42 < skelterjohn> wow, very nice!
18:42 < skelterjohn> works now :)
18:42 < erus_> great
18:43 < erus_> now triangle meshes, textures and all that fun stuff
18:43 < skelterjohn> what about goinstall isn't working in windows?
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18:43 < erus_> yeh i'll check that now
18:44 < erus_> was O_RWD the correct flag?
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18:45 < skelterjohn> no - O_RDWR
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18:45 < skelterjohn> but i knew what you meant :)
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18:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/xvvKXL by [Russ Cox] in go/doc/ -- spec: allow
imported packages named main
18:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/FNlkXf by [Russ Cox] in 11 subdirs of go/src/
-- gc, ld: detect stale or incompatible object files
18:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/merRsE by [Gustavo Niemeyer] in
go/src/cmd/cgo/ -- cgo: os/arch dependent #cgo directives
18:56 < plexdev> http://is.gd/XXZqgh by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- go
spec: adjust notion of Assignability
18:57 < skelterjohn> allow imported packages named main?  whyyyy?
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18:57 < nsf> why not?
18:57 < skelterjohn> because, until now, main had been reserved for
executables
18:57 < skelterjohn> and i don't know why that should change
18:57 < skelterjohn> seemed like a good rule
18:58 < nsf> imagine package that implements main.main
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18:58 < nsf> but yeah, sounds kinda crazy
18:58 < skelterjohn> that doesn't make sense to me
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19:03 < skelterjohn> the use of the name "main" is how my builder determined
whether something was a pkg or a cmd :\
19:03 < skelterjohn> now, i guess i have to scan the functions?
19:03 < nsf> hehe
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19:13 < temoto> skelterjohn, 1) it removes random limit, which are all evil.
19:13 < temoto> 2) it allows to gotest executables code.
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19:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/ehuTvy by [Russ Cox] in go/ -- A+C: Dave
Cheney (individual CLA)
19:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/3aRgcL by [Dave Cheney] in go/src/pkg/syscall/
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19:28 < plexdev> http://is.gd/gKJNsj by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/cmd/ -- gc, ld: package name main no longer reserved
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20:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/taEnha by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/
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20:00 < plexdev> http://is.gd/tVlKCV by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ --
fmt: document %%
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20:49 < plexdev> http://is.gd/VBYKXm by [Gustavo Niemeyer] in
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21:00 < mpl> exch: I don't remember if it was you who suggested I return 0
for a Writer that can't return a reliable n, but apparently that won't do, because
io.Copy will consider that as a short write afaics.
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21:03 < exch> mm all the more reason then to try and make it a reliable
value.  Otherwise you have a broken io.Writer implementation
21:04 < mpl> exch: it's deeper than that.  I think io.Copy expects your
writer to return the number of bytes it was fed.  which is not the case for e.g a
compressor.
21:05 < exch> Might be worth investigating then, how some of the compressors
handle it
21:05 < exch> I sue the gzip compressor with io.Copy regularly.  it works as
expected
21:05 < exch> s/sue/use
21:05 < mpl> yep, I should look at it again indeed
21:07 < jnwhiteh> let me know what you've found out, I've dealt with issues
in the gzip packages unreliable writes =)
21:08 < Venom_X> Hi, anyone get by the src update problem yesterday?  I'm
stuck at make: *** [math.install] Error 2 when ./all.bash
21:09 < Venom_X> seems to have to do with: gamma.go:157: invalid operation:
z * x (type float * float64), and float related errors
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21:10 < skelterjohn> Venom_X: your copy of go is out of date
21:10 < skelterjohn> the float type no longer exists
21:10 < skelterjohn> nor has it for at least a month
21:10 < skelterjohn> do a "hg pull -u"
21:10 < Venom_X> I just did: hg clone -r release
https://go.googlecode.com/hg/ go
21:11 < Venom_X> from scratch.  I blew away my existing go dir
21:11 < skelterjohn> what does "which 6g" say?
21:11 < skelterjohn> or 8g, if you're on x86
21:11 < skelterjohn> sometimes people have leftover binaries from previous
installations
21:11 < Venom_X> -> /Users/pjacobs/bin/6g
21:11 < skelterjohn> delete any go related binaries in /Users/pjacobs/bin
21:11 < Venom_X> ok
21:12 < skelterjohn> anything that appears in $GOBIN should not appear in
that directory
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21:13 < Venom_X> why doesn't ./all.bash delete all that is in $GOBIN?
21:14 < skelterjohn> what do you have $GOBIN set to?
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21:14 < Venom_X> Phillip-Jacobs-MacBook-Pro:src pjacobs$ echo $GOBIN
21:14 < exch> this is exactly why I always explicitely run src/clean.bash
before updating/rebuilding
21:14 < Venom_X> -> /Users/pjacobs/bin
21:15 < skelterjohn> exch: why would all.bash not run clean.bash?
21:15 < exch> I don't know if it does.  All I know is that running
clean.bahs separately solved my issues
21:16 < Venom_X> well, deleting things in my $GOBIN didn't solve the problem
21:16 < Venom_X> this is happening at the %%%% making pkg %%%%
21:16 < Venom_X> stage..
21:17 < skelterjohn> yes...but the only way float can appear is if you're
using the old compiler
21:17 < Venom_X> Phillip-Jacobs-MacBook-Pro:go pjacobs$ hg pull -u
21:17 < Venom_X> pulling from https://go.googlecode.com/hg/
21:17 < Venom_X> searching for changes
21:17 < Venom_X> no changes found
21:18 < Venom_X> My $GOBIN starts empty..  then as things get crated they
start showing up
21:18 < skelterjohn> what happens with "which 6g" now
21:19 < Venom_X> -> /Users/pjacobs/bin/6g
21:19 < skelterjohn> 6g -V
21:19 < skelterjohn> ?
21:19 < skelterjohn> i have 7239
21:19 < skelterjohn> 7329
21:20 < Venom_X> 6g version release.2011-02-01.1 7361
21:20 < skelterjohn> and you tried running ./clean.bash ; ./all.bash ?
21:20 < Venom_X> yes
21:20 < skelterjohn> and it still gives you compile errors talking about a
"float" type?
21:20 < Venom_X> it does
21:21 < skelterjohn> try deleting everything from $GOROOT/bin
21:21 < skelterjohn> and then running all.bash
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21:22 < skelterjohn> and set GOBIN go $GOROOT/bin, for now
21:22 < Venom_X> no such file or directory..
21:22 < skelterjohn> potentially before running all.bash :)
21:23 < skelterjohn> ok, just set GOBIN that way, then
21:23 < skelterjohn> and delete 6g, 6l, gopack from your old gobin
21:23 < Venom_X> ok
21:23 < skelterjohn> before running all.bash
21:23 < skelterjohn> do a "which 6g" to verify that it doesn't exist
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21:25 < Venom_X> yeah, same problem
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21:27 < skelterjohn> what happens if you cd to $GOROOT/src/pkg/math and run
make?
21:27 < Venom_X> think I found the issue
21:27 < skelterjohn> oh?
21:28 < Venom_X> I had a /usr/bin set of go binaries from running sudo.all
21:28 < Venom_X> I mean sudo.bash
21:29 < skelterjohn> ah
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22:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/kDVTIg by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
regexp: add support for matching text read from things that implement
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23:09 < Venom_X_> anyone use the smtp package successfully?
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23:16 < mpl> heh nice troll about the windows installer :)
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